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01WhiteCobra
01-21-2003, 09:16 PM
Verizon told: Sing on song-swapper

Judge says telephone company must turn over name of customer suspected of downloading songs.
January 21, 2003: 4:51 PM EST



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Recording companies won a victory in their fight against online piracy on Tuesday, when a U.S. court ordered Verizon Communications to turn over the name of a customer suspected of downloading more than 600 songs in one day over the Internet.

The decision could set an important precedent as the recording industry asks schools, businesses and Internet providers to help them track down the online song swappers that they believe are cutting into their sales.

Under a 1998 digital-copyright law, Internet providers have voluntarily shut down Web sites that contain infringing material, but they have balked at requests to disconnect users who trade songs with each other directly using "peer to peer" networks such as Kazaa and Morpheus.

The recording industry sued Verizon (VZ: Research, Estimates) last summer after it refused to reveal the name of a customer believed to have downloaded more than 600 songs in one day. Verizon said such a move would violate customer privacy and force Internet service providers to serve as online copyright cops.

Verizon said the law should not require it to block customer use of Kazaa and other networks, but in his opinion U.S. District Court Judge John Bates said the law "applies to all Internet service providers ... not just to those service providers storing information on a system or network at the discretion of a user."

The telephone company told CNNfn that it will appeal the decision.

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"Verizon is not attempting to shield customers who break copyright laws," said Sarah B. Deutsch, vice president and associate general counsel for Verizon. "We are, however, seeking to protect the fundamental privacy and due process rights that should be afforded to our customers and all Internet users."

A recording-industry spokesman said the decision validated their position and said illegal song swapping was a serious problem.

"Now that the court has ordered Verizon to live up to its obligation under the law, we look forward to contacting the account holder whose identity we were seeking so we can let them know that what they are doing is illegal," said Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America.

The RIAA represents the five largest recording companies: AOL Time Warner's Warner Music; Sony Music of Sony Corp. (SNE: Research, Estimates); Bertelsmann AG's BMG; Universal Music Group of Vivendi Universal (V: Research, Estimates); and EMI Group Plc.

CNN/Money and CNNfn are also subsidiaries of AOL Time Warner (AOL: Research, Estimates).

mikeb
01-21-2003, 09:36 PM
Yeah, I saw that. Looks like the kazaa days are coming to an end. RIAA already has companies looking for and cataloging people sharing content on the fasttrack network and now they have the means to identify/prosecute them.

This will undoubtably boost freenet.

01WhiteCobra
01-21-2003, 10:06 PM
Are there any laws that state ISPs must keep track of network activity?

Brandon-K
01-22-2003, 03:24 AM
This isnt right!

Head Hunter
01-22-2003, 05:50 AM
Oh well... first napster, now kazaa, give it a few more months and a new one will appear... hell I cant even remember what napster was like..

AbecX
01-22-2003, 06:58 AM
I hate the RIAA and the MPAA, they are all a bunch of money grubbing dipshits. Its their own fault people trade music online when they charge TWENTY FUCKING DOLLARS for a new cd, and you cant tell me the prices went up because of online trading, they have always been 15-20 for a new cd since they first came out, it costs them about $.90 a cd to create, box, ship, sell. That's a huge markup, and they wonder why people that make music are millionaires :rolleyes:

MoonDog
01-22-2003, 09:41 AM
Saw this on the news the other night. Proof that they have been wrongfully marking up prices on CD's.

http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm

DarkWolf
01-23-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by AbecX
I hate the RIAA and the MPAA, they are all a bunch of money grubbing dipshits. Its their own fault people trade music online when they charge TWENTY FUCKING DOLLARS for a new cd, and you cant tell me the prices went up because of online trading, they have always been 15-20 for a new cd since they first came out, it costs them about $.90 a cd to create, box, ship, sell. That's a huge markup, and they wonder why people that make music are millionaires :rolleyes:

I dunno if it's $0.90, but it's definitely less than $2.50. Either way, it's a huge fucking markup.

FlowJack
01-23-2003, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by AbecX
I hate the RIAA and the MPAA, they are all a bunch of money grubbing dipshits. Its their own fault people trade music online when they charge TWENTY FUCKING DOLLARS for a new cd, and you cant tell me the prices went up because of online trading, they have always been 15-20 for a new cd since they first came out, it costs them about $.90 a cd to create, box, ship, sell. That's a huge markup, and they wonder why people that make music are millionaires :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong, I almost agree...but you've also got to keep in mind the marketing, promotions, people's salaries, etc. that is made up for in that markup....it's a huge industry that takes a lot of people and money to keep moving. Is it still a huge markup with everything factored in.... yes. Is it necessary to keep the music industry alive, unfortunately yes.

Why shouldn't people that make music become millionaires. The dream of fame and fortune, even with all of the unfortunate commercialism, is what makes a lot of artists strive to make better music.

Support your local music scene and buy a freakin CD:)

90GT50
01-24-2003, 01:12 PM
well, usually, in my case, I will download some songs from a certain cd, and if I like the songs, I will go actually buy the cd, is there anything wrong with this? no, but apparently everyone else thinks it is:rolleyes: