The Microsoft Civic Sucks!

[Phoenix-IT]

What's with this punk troll and his farting 4 banger coming on here and talking about WINBLOWS and WILLY GATES like they are something to be worshipped?

Just goes to show anyone bright enough to build and enconomy car would also support a company of convicted criminals. Hope you like being spied on, did you know that the latest license agreements in Windows Medial Player and Win XP require you to give administrator privilages to Microshaft?

Did you know you give them the right to install 3rd party software that will delete, disable or destroy applications and files on your computer that may be SUSPECTED to be copyright violations? Doesn't matter if they are pirated or not... they have the right (purchased from Microshaft of course) to delete your MP3s, and believe me they will. The fact that you bought the CDs you made the MP3s from is of no importance to them. It's called Digital Rights Management and its straight up fascist controll of your personal property.

You want to know what Microsoft is really about? Look here:
http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm

Then go to the following link and send a letter to your Senator telling him you want no part of DRM!
http://www.eff.org

I'm sorry this is a little heated, but if there's two things I hate it's a wannabe fuckin sports car and a Microshaft soldier. :mad:

Phoenix

[Grant]

Wow, you've been played hard core. I don't think you have any idea of who you're talking about. haha

[Jedi]

QuickCivic = AbecX's second account.

[Phoenix-IT]

Originally posted by Grant
Wow, you've been played hard core. I don't think you have any idea of who you're talking about. haha

Howso? :confused:

[Phoenix-IT]

So what? The Microsoft Civic is a spoof? a prank? a comedy? and I didn't pick up on that? You'll have to excuse me then, you see I'm not quite right in the head. :(

[AbecX]

:p

[91Coupe]

;)

[Phoenix-IT]

Sorry Abec.... That did have me played.... :D

The more I read about them the sicker I get...

[AbecX]

Originally posted by Phoenix-IT
The more I read about them the sicker I get...
<-- been MS Free for 3 years.

[Phoenix-IT]

Here's how that whole thing played out in my mind. :D

I was reading the Coyote thread.... thinkin....

"Oooooo pretty blonde......."

"Ooooo preeetty girl......."

":gasp: DAMN! Hot girlies... HOT!"


"mmmm sexy gir..... wait just a fuckin minute.... I did not just see a mothafukin ricer promoting that criminal bill gates..."

"(yelling in the room) I do not fuckin believe this rice drivin punk ass fuckin Microshaft suckin... etc... etc. etc."

ROTF! :D

That got me REALLY good! ;)

[DON SVO]

damn cruz, you're getting good with the fake accounts!!

<--- thinks ABECX owns over 12 handles and drives chris98GT nuts with them!

[trey85stang]

heheh.. that all is a crock.. When I worked at microsoft 2 years ago.. that is where i learned how to pirate software mp3's movies.. etc...

They had movie and mp3 servers there... of course they were not ITG servers.. they were employee's servers.. but hey.. i watched a new movie everyday when i worked there.

I highly doubt that microsoft cares if a "home user" has pirated software or not... they are more concerned with business', however that is all contracted through the BSA... microsoft does not battle piracy directly... they do what they can with product key etc... but the BSA handles 99% of actually pirating and licensing fraud....

[Phoenix-IT]

You're a putz and you don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by trey85stang
heheh.. that all is a crock..

You used an all encompassing statement here "that's all", and stated that it was false "a crock". Hmm... let me see.

Well in one part of the letter at hevanet.com the author states, "Computer companies and consultants are required to disclose their customer information."

Which is exactly true, I had to sign that agreement in 1997 when I had my computer store. I also was required to leave Internet Explorer on PCs that I equipped with the Windows 95 operating system. The author also mentions that this is an anti-competitive practice. The U.S. department of justice found Microsoft guilty of breaking the law in the Netscape case... so the author was correct on that statement too.

A link in that article points to the Halloween documents using them as factual evidence. In one of the key points of those documents they mention Microsoft's use of a tactic described as; "OSS projects have been able to gain a foothold in many server applications because of the wide utility of highly commoditized, simple protocols. By extending these protocols and developing new protocols, we can deny OSS projects entry into the market."

This was done with Sun Microsystems' Java platform (which Microsoft was recently ordered to implement properly by a court of law). This was also used against Netscape with HTML itself, Microsoft added HTML extensions which Netscape was not permitted to support. This is STILL going on today, there is paragraph titled "Microsoft Threatens Slashdot" on this page; http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/DMCA/20030102_dmca_unintended_consequences.html Where Microsoft is adding proprietary extensions to the open Kerberos security standard and then invoking the DMCA law when others publish the added Microsoft extensions.

So this tells me and everyone else that at least three of his statements are true and not "all a crock", which makes you what? Not only WRONG, but fucking ignorant also.


When I worked at microsoft 2 years ago.. that is where i learned how to pirate software mp3's movies.. etc...

They had movie and mp3 servers there... of course they were not ITG servers.. they were employee's servers.. but hey.. i watched a new movie everyday when i worked there.

Note that the operative phrase here is "2 years ago".

Okay, so you're a pirate. Which makes you what? Part of the fucking problem.. If people like you weren't pirating shit then Congress would have no excuse to pass unjust laws like the DMCA that give criminal monopolists like Microsoft an additional weapon.

You sure don't know a whole lot about the company that use to employ you. Perhaps its just that you can't accept the fact that you helped a company that is destroying digital freedom, I don't know. :rolleyes:

Sorry for all the geekspeak guys, but he made such a generally uneducated statement. One that may have put someone's concern to rest when we should actually be yelling a big "FUCK YOU!" to everything Microshaft tries to make us suck. :mad:

[AbecX]

I found a new friend

[DON SVO]

Originally posted by AbecX
I found a new friend

you ARE your new friend, ya fuckin' worm!

[Phoenix-IT]

Hahahaha :D

LOL I'm not one of his alteregos..... People have seen me...


Just don't get me started on the DMCA.... you'll really put a quarter in me then.

BTW Hoooraaaa for Jon.... he's free!!! (The 15 year old that helped crack the DVD encryption that they tried to put in jail for playing DVD's on his own computer.)

[trey85stang]

Pheonix... its whinning about software companies that makes people putz'...

if someone wants to use Windows... good, they have a choice to decide for them selves.

If someone wants to run pirated software... hell is anyone really going to stop them??

If someone wants to use lindows, linux, freebsd... thats great too! (i use these at home anyways)

but hearing people whine about Microsoft, and the company being criminals is a bunch a horse**it (although I will admit there were some scary ass people that worked there but thats against my point)

I would have to say that the linux worshippers are the people that are criminals... how many windows users do you know that can hack into a bank and steal credit card information???

besides you may not know what im talking about... but I think i do at least :)

just have an opinion thats all, (an opinion that software wars is the should be the least of america's concerns at the moment)

but anyways.. I like smack so, post back up!

[Grant]

Damn, ole Bill must be pissed at me. I think I have one program on here that isn't pirated.



edit: Nope, it was pirated too!

[trey85stang]

I've got unpirated software on my computers at home.. not much.. but theres some ;)

[Phoenix-IT]

Originally posted by trey85stang
Pheonix... its whining about software companies that makes people putz'...

Situations never change unless someone complains about them. I suppose all those people that complained about taxation without representation and participated in the Boston Tea Party were just whining about shit too...


If someone wants to run pirated software... hell is anyone really going to stop them??

Yes... they are taking steps to do this, and they are the wrong steps. The DMCA is one of them, Microsoft's implementation of Digital Rights Management is another. The only person's interest that should be "managed" on MY computer is my own.


but hearing people whine about Microsoft, and the company being criminals is a bunch a horse**it (although I will admit there were some scary ass people that worked there but that's against my point)

Horseshit? No.... Criminals? Yes.... CONVICTED Criminals. (An excerpt from their final JUDGEMENT in a court of law is shown below.)

"412. Most harmful of all is the message that Microsoft's actions have conveyed to every enterprise with the potential to innovate in the computer industry. Through its conduct toward Netscape, IBM, Compaq, Intel, and others, Microsoft has demonstrated that it will use its prodigious market power and immense profits to harm any firm that insists on pursuing initiatives that could intensify competition against one of Microsoft's core products. Microsoft's past success in hurting such companies and stifling innovation deters investment in technologies and businesses that exhibit the potential to threaten Microsoft. The ultimate result is that some innovations that would truly benefit consumers never occur for the sole reason that they do not coincide with Microsoft's self-interest. "
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm#v-i


I would have to say that the Linux worshippers are the people that are criminals... how many windows users do you know that can hack into a bank and steal credit card information???

Actually, in an anonymous survey of crackers participating in illegal activity, the operating system of choice was Windows XP Home Edition. Why? Because Windows XP has open TCP sockets, which means they can modify outgoing TCP packets with forged system of origin information. (They can make up a return address so the system that is being attacked doesn't know the true name of the system that sent the attack.)


besides you may not know what im talking about... but I think i do at least :)

Lunatics that babble incoherently believe that what they are saying makes perfect sense too. :rolleyes:


just have an opinion thats all, (an opinion that software wars is the should be the least of america's concerns at the moment)

Opinions are okay.... But they are just that.... opinions, not facts. Also, it was the least of our worries back in 1998 too, and now we are under the DMCA.


but anyways.. I like smack so, post back up!

I live for proving my point. ;)

[trey85stang]

Kudos to you pheonix.. you have made me feel real stupid... ;)

lets argue about chiken biscuits now.. i know a little about them!!

[Phoenix-IT]

Originally posted by trey85stang
Kudos to you pheonix.. you have made me feel real stupid... ;)

Given your character, I doubt it. But that was never my intention anyway. People that are oppressed by the actions of others (companies) usually don't know it and just accept the shit that is shoveled their way. Someone has to come out and say, "This is bullshit and I don't have to accept it." Someone did that for me and now I'm trying to do it for others.

How would you feel if Ford came out and said, "We are only going to make one car, the Escort, and all of you are going to drive it, and like it."?

Your response would be, "Fuck You! I'll go buy a GTO."

Now, Say Ford had created a monopoly position in the automobile market when they started. They then used contracts, license agreements and legal red tape to prevent potential competitors from starting up car companies. And the only car they made today was the Escort. You wouldn't know the difference, and you would likely be driving one today..... This would go on until someone jumped up and said, "Hey! Why aren't there any fast cars? Who's responsible for this?!".

This situation exists today. Only, computers are the open road, Windows is the Escort and Microsoft is the Ford. :eek:

We deserve a choice..... a viable one. Another product that hasn't been crippled in some way by it's competing interest. This is only going to happen if people keep bitching about the situation.


lets argue about chiken biscuits now.. i know a little about them!!

I'd rather talk about whiskerbiscuts! :p Do you like yours smooth or carpeted? :D