what kind of times do awd talons get?

[HPF89X]

This guy talks a lot of shit. I believe its a four banger too. Anyone?

[2cammer97]

they run good with a good driver. i saw a clean one at denton over the summer runnin 8.3 at 83 mph on tiny street tires. i believe it was pullin 1.9 sixty's. i'm pretty sure all it had was muffler, downpipe, intake, and boost controller at 15 psi.

marcus

[slovanova]

We will probably have my friend's 1990 Talon out at Ennis Friday.

[chrm99gt]

Dude, be very very careful. I have seen at the street races a few years ago, a white talon run off and leave a built supercharged 95 cobra and a 96 cobra. That thing ran 9's low 10's easy in the quarter, not the 1/8th. He had little slicks on all 4's and that thing took off like a rocket.....If they want to race you, knowing what you have, then look out or be embarassed.

[Schargedcobra97]

awd talons are ALL launch..stock that is...so if u dont hve drags or slicks run him from a roll...last i checked they run high 14's in 1/4..stock that is...and i ran a white awd talon about 3 years ago in a conv cobra with 150 shot and he got my off the line but once we hit third i caught and pulled :)

[DON SVO]

with the AWD talons making power, here is your best bet:

get him to run you repeatedly from a stop, in an almost hot-lap situation. wait for the shitty diamond star trans. to cough up some gear clusters!!! :D

they are street-tough cars, and even tougher with more boost and a real intercooler *not the shitty thing they refer to as an intercooler*

[HPF89X]

He doesnt know what I have. :D Ill just show up with the ET drags bolted up.;)

[Hurley]

Originally posted by chrm99gt
Dude, be very very careful. I have seen at the street races a few years ago, a white talon run off and leave a built supercharged 95 cobra and a 96 cobra. That thing ran 9's low 10's easy in the quarter, not the 1/8th. He had little slicks on all 4's and that thing took off like a rocket.....If they want to race you, knowing what you have, then look out or be embarassed.


Did this car have "Alamo Autosports" on the side with a big Mexican guy driving?

[chrm99gt]

Don't remember, that was in late 96. We were in carrollton or F.B. on a 3 lane by some shipping dock. Cops rolled in, we scattered, drove by a little later and the talon was on the car hauler being impounded!! I guess they carted him off to jail? But man, I'll never forget that little car, it made us mustang guys look very very slow. I was only a spectator, but damn that car was talked about for awhile and still to this day, those that remember that night talk about it. I'm not a ricer fan by any means, but that lil bastard was awesome.

[Hurley]

Originally posted by chrm99gt
Don't remember, that was in late 96. We were in carrollton or F.B. on a 3 lane by some shipping dock. Cops rolled in, we scattered, drove by a little later and the talon was on the car hauler being impounded!! I guess they carted him off to jail? But man, I'll never forget that little car, it made us mustang guys look very very slow. I was only a spectator, but damn that car was talked about for awhile and still to this day, those that remember that night talk about it. I'm not a ricer fan by any means, but that lil bastard was awesome.


Yep that was Wes. I used to work with him at Alamo Autosports. That car was viscious. It was ALOT faster than it should've been becuase he could drive the hell out of that car. The funny thing was, it wasnt a fast track car. It only ran a 12.1 at (this is a guesstimate) 118 mph. Very fun times.

[Schargedcobra97]

yeah i ran a big mexican guy in a white awd from alamo and beat him with just a 150 shot and 3 73 and gears and convertable

[chrm99gt]

I guess I just remember it faster than it was, I do remember it just walking off those 2 cobras. What ever happened to that car, did he go to the pokey that night???

[Hurley]

Originally posted by chrm99gt
I guess I just remember it faster than it was, I do remember it just walking off those 2 cobras. What ever happened to that car, did he go to the pokey that night???

The car was bought by my brother and he has built the motor and stepped up to a larger turbo. Wes kind of hangs out and plays games on the computer. I have never seen anyone who could work on DSM cars more efficiently than him.

[BP]

My 95 Talon has gone as fast as 8.82 in the 1/8, that was with an air cleaner and a muffler.

[White_lightning]

i pulled a 1.75 60' on SP8000 all weather tires in my AWD turbo talon and a Gentle Launch. On the street i could drop it at 5500 and Stomp just about anything off the line. as a matter of fact.. i NEVER lost in that car from a stop.
if you are running 8th mile.. better come out on slicks if he knows what he is doing.
what are his mods?

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by White_lightning
i pulled a 1.75 60' on SP8000 all weather tires in my AWD turbo talon and a Gentle Launch. On the street i could drop it at 5500 and Stomp just about anything off the line. as a matter of fact.. i NEVER lost in that car from a stop.
if you are running 8th mile.. better come out on slicks if he knows what he is doing.
what are his mods?

yeah but they not strong in 1/4 to me the are all launch and we know most street races dont last long

[White_lightning]

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
yeah but they not strong in 1/4 to me the are all launch and we know most street races dont last long
you would be surprised.. there are Several running LOW 13s with basic bolt ons.. but with a cheap turbo upgrade like the 16g ( which uses the stock exhaust manifold and is a direct bolton) they can go DEEP in the 12s and be Monsters from a stop.
d.

[JKD]

I dont know how many of you are old school racers. But about 4 years ago there was a kid out of Plano named Andy Kraft. He had a AWD Eclipse (samething as a Talon of course) that looked totally stock except some aftermarket wheels. I was driving down Northwest Hwy in a friends Grand National, just got done detailing and thought I would go for a cruise. (This GN ran 12.20's in drag radials) Andy pulled up next to me and I heard his blow off valve and since I was driving the GN it was a good exuse to have a lil fun. We pulled up to the light and we both spooled up. (This GN would do 1.7 60ft effortlessly too btw. ) Light turn green and he jumped out 3 lengths right away and just kept going ! I couldnt believe it. We pulled over to talk and he told me about his car. I couldnt believe it until he took me for a ride. On street tires the way it sat in street tune it ran 11.30's !! 6 months later Andy won the big Import Nationals street division with a 10.86 ! Pissed me off too, damn thing still got 25mpg +

Anyways, old school racers would remember this lil black Eclipse with a tiny lil preppy kid (Andy)driving it. He would come out on street tires to the street races and beat trailer cars by lengths. A buddy of his that ran around with him also had a red Talon turbo and nitrous, it wasnt as fast about 11.90's or so, it just didnt have the huge turbo and fully built motor. The other car that was with them alot was a green 4 door AWDGalant, kid named Jason driving also on nitrous. It wasnt as fast as the other 2, but came off the line like its ass was on fire.

[Jimbo]

They're slow. (http://www.dsmtimes.org/)

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by Jimbo
They're slow. (http://www.dsmtimes.org/)

this man speaks the truth!!!

[92AWDTalon]

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
this man speaks the truth!!!

Did you click on the link?

[Schargedcobra97]

yep and they only running 9's in full race trim..sad so sad

[Jimbo]

For the record I am a big fan of the talon/eclipse/laser awd platform (and galant for that matter). As far as full race trim, these cars are more akin to SSO or renegade than they are comparible with Pro 5.0. The majority of these times are Hot Street and renegade competitive. Make no mistake, several of these awd vehicles would benefit from a rwd change over as Buscher's 7.8 car would attest. Shepard's 9.3 car is also fully streetable and legal with a full interior. I think they are pretty quick and very interesting little cars. Don't be fooled there are a few quick ones running around on the street too.

fastest DSM's:

7.819 171.75 4.986 144.49 1.130 98 Talon RWD outlaw AUTO T61 Ptrim YES David Buschur 09/25/02 Norwalk Raceway Park Buschur Racing Inc.

8.875 153.35 5.776 124.80 1.398 92 Talon TSi ET T4 secret YES Sean Glazar 10/21/01 Maple Grove Raceway Extreme Motorsports

9.353 152.49 6.079 116.91 1.435 91 Talon Tsi FP T4 secret YES John Shepherd 11/09/02 River City Raceway Shepracing, Forced Performance, BJ's, ACT

9.545 151.64 6.299 120.46 1.632 94 Eclipse GST Greddy T78 YES Garry Marsh 06/06/01 Moroso Motorsports Park Wrightouch Racing

9.623 141.99 6.306 117.80 1.544 97 Talon TSi GT35R YES Marco "Porn King" Passante 09/19/02 St. Thomas Raceway Action Front, Magnus Motorsports

9.663 147.83 6.275 114.05 1.465 91 Talon Tsi FP T4 Secret YES John Shepherd 07/21/02 Norwalk Raceway Shepracing, Forced Performance, BJ's, ACT

9.695 142.29 6.254 112.46 1.453 90 Eclipse GSX FP 3065 NO Dejan "Dan" Cokic 07/06/02 Old Bridge Township Pruven Performance

9.855 143.78 6.420 116.28 1.579 91 Talon TSi BR57 YES Kevin Lawson 09/06/02 Quaker City Raceway Buschur Racing

9.867 142.97 6.410 113.25 1.485 91 Eclipse GSX FP Secret YES Jeff Hill 08/31/02 Englishtown Raceway TurboTrix Racing

9.870 145.75 6.400 110.15 1.447 90 Eclipse GSX FP RED NO Curt Brown 10/20/02 Maple Grove Raceway

[Schargedcobra97]

yeah yeah yeah....i get tired of hearing that line "streetable"..that word is used very very loosly these days....but when they run those times there are not in this full street trim

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
yeah yeah yeah....i get tired of hearing that line "streetable"..that word is used very very loosly these days....but when they run those times there are not in this full street trim

I have seen plenty of renegade cars that were streetable but not daily drivers. I think if it follows the definition of the term, its not being used loosely, and from what I've heard Shepard actually cruises his car to work once in a while.

[Schargedcobra97]

that's my point people use streetable..but dont drive daily that's my personal true definition of streetable

[92AWDTalon]

Shepards is streetable as in inspected and driven to work 3-4 days out of the week. Streetable does not necessarily mean daily driver, it means the vehicle is capable of being driven on the street legally.

[Schargedcobra97]

and that's why i say braggin about being streetable...is stupid...and ok one car is driving daily

[Hurley]

The whole point of this thread was to find out how fast these cars can be on the street. Not to compare apples to oranges. I applaud what has been done with what can be considered a somewhat limited platform. Mustangs and even Camaros are alot faster once you start talking Pro Mod cars. Its a winless debate.

[Jimbo]

Point taken JMHls1.

With minimal mods, I have seen them run mid to low eights in the 1/8th and thirteens in the 1/4. Once the 14b comes off and you start pumping them up then they begin to run.

[Hurley]

Originally posted by Jimbo
Point taken JMHls1.

With minimal mods, I have seen them run mid to low eights in the 1/8th and thirteens in the 1/4. Once the 14b comes off and you start pumping them up then they begin to run.


Thats whats cool about those cars. Makes for a super fun daily driver that can run low 12's with some boost and race gas.:D

[Schargedcobra97]

but still slow haha

[LT12NV-420]

Originally posted by JKD
I dont know how many of you are old school racers. But about 4 years ago there was a kid out of Plano named Andy Kraft. He had a AWD Eclipse (samething as a Talon of course) that looked totally stock except some aftermarket wheels. I was driving down Northwest Hwy in a friends Grand National, just got done detailing and thought I would go for a cruise. (This GN ran 12.20's in drag radials) Andy pulled up next to me and I heard his blow off valve and since I was driving the GN it was a good exuse to have a lil fun. We pulled up to the light and we both spooled up. (This GN would do 1.7 60ft effortlessly too btw. ) Light turn green and he jumped out 3 lengths right away and just kept going ! I couldnt believe it. We pulled over to talk and he told me about his car. I couldnt believe it until he took me for a ride. On street tires the way it sat in street tune it ran 11.30's !! 6 months later Andy won the big Import Nationals street division with a 10.86 ! Pissed me off too, damn thing still got 25mpg +

Anyways, old school racers would remember this lil black Eclipse with a tiny lil preppy kid (Andy)driving it. He would come out on street tires to the street races and beat trailer cars by lengths. A buddy of his that ran around with him also had a red Talon turbo and nitrous, it wasnt as fast about 11.90's or so, it just didnt have the huge turbo and fully built motor. The other car that was with them alot was a green 4 door AWDGalant, kid named Jason driving also on nitrous. It wasnt as fast as the other 2, but came off the line like its ass was on fire.


He is/was not from Plano, he is from Mesquite..

[LT12NV-420]

Originally posted by JMHls1
Yep that was Wes. I used to work with him at Alamo Autosports. That car was viscious. It was ALOT faster than it should've been becuase he could drive the hell out of that car. The funny thing was, it wasnt a fast track car. It only ran a 12.1 at (this is a guesstimate) 118 mph. Very fun times.

My friend actually sold that white 92' car to Wes back in 95.

He bought a 94 and had that for a while..broke it several times, built a forged motor and 20g in 96. Sold that, bought a 96 LT4 C4, sold that, bought another built up 91 talon from some guy in TN that ran 11.7@120 first time out. He now has a T04R single turbo supra and the the talon is for sale cheap(7500)

It's got 264 cams, ported head, frank 3, 95 manifold, forged assembly, welded diff, ACT 6 puck, Should be making ~450 to the ground or so, maybe more on leaded race gas..

[BLOWN347LX]

Originally posted by JKD
I dont know how many of you are old school racers. But about 4 years ago there was a kid out of Plano named Andy Kraft. He had a AWD Eclipse (samething as a Talon of course) that looked totally stock except some aftermarket wheels. I was driving down Northwest Hwy in a friends Grand National, just got done detailing and thought I would go for a cruise. (This GN ran 12.20's in drag radials) Andy pulled up next to me and I heard his blow off valve and since I was driving the GN it was a good exuse to have a lil fun. We pulled up to the light and we both spooled up. (This GN would do 1.7 60ft effortlessly too btw. ) Light turn green and he jumped out 3 lengths right away and just kept going ! I couldnt believe it. We pulled over to talk and he told me about his car. I couldnt believe it until he took me for a ride. On street tires the way it sat in street tune it ran 11.30's !! 6 months later Andy won the big Import Nationals street division with a 10.86 ! Pissed me off too, damn thing still got 25mpg +

Anyways, old school racers would remember this lil black Eclipse with a tiny lil preppy kid (Andy)driving it. He would come out on street tires to the street races and beat trailer cars by lengths. A buddy of his that ran around with him also had a red Talon turbo and nitrous, it wasnt as fast about 11.90's or so, it just didnt have the huge turbo and fully built motor. The other car that was with them alot was a green 4 door AWDGalant, kid named Jason driving also on nitrous. It wasnt as fast as the other 2, but came off the line like its ass was on fire.



Andy graduated from Texas A&M and lives up here again. He had a Vette last I knew and got rid of the Talon. Talk about a sleeper. One of the original imports that got my attention...and he did it five or so years ago...

[BP]

I remember Andy, he was the first one with a ball bearing turbo. I also used to run around with Glen in the red Talon, 3 spoke wheels. Augie (now at Jotech I think) had the baddest DSM around but I never saw it at the track. The Galant was a dude named Jason Crum.

[BLOWN347LX]

Glen's car is fast too...Haven't seen his car in a while, but I hear of him showing up now and then.

[lowthreeohz]

glen works at dominos on harwood road still, you can see him drivin around in a red civic hatch sometimes, i usually do and give him a shout. :)

what was glens hp, like 561 awhp? :mad: :eek:

[BP]

He's been to Kennedale a few times this year. He now has a bottle and the car isn't any faster. Probably not the driver though:)

[dragradialstang]

You couldn't count the trannys he's broke on your fingers and toes.:eek:

[Hurley]

Originally posted by dragradialstang
You couldn't count the trannys he's broke on your fingers and toes.:eek:


Aint that the truth!

<----Has watched a few DSM tranny's be rebuilt!

[Juiced89lx]

Originally posted by Brandy
I also used to run around with Glen in the red Talon, 3 spoke wheels.

You mean the Gym teacher!

[Juiced89lx]

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
yeah but they not strong in 1/4 to me the are all launch and we know most street races dont last long

You are a fucking retard. Maybe we can set you up a race with our friend Shane, from a roll. I know he took out Silverback a couple of times on the highway. And Silverback's car is no slouch. (over 370 rwhp and 410rwtq)

I know Glen's car ran neck and neck with my friend's mustang that had a 347 with a 150 shot, from a roll too.

[BLOWN347LX]

Originally posted by Juiced89lx
You are a fucking retard. Maybe we can set you up a race with our friend Shane, from a roll. I know he took out Silverback a couple of times on the highway. And Silverback's car is no slouch. (over 370 rwhp and 410rwtq)

I know Glen's car ran neck and neck with my friend's mustang that had a 347 with a 150 shot, from a roll too.


I'm tellin' you, my clutch was slippin'...And why you gotta be bringing up old $hit, Juiced??:mad: ;)

[JKD]

Well...back to the original topic. Yes, these can be fast and very competitive and are not to be taken lightly.

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by Juiced89lx
You are a fucking retard. Maybe we can set you up a race with our friend Shane, from a roll. I know he took out Silverback a couple of times on the highway. And Silverback's car is no slouch. (over 370 rwhp and 410rwtq)

I know Glen's car ran neck and neck with my friend's mustang that had a 347 with a 150 shot, from a roll too.

ok pm me how bout next monday...

some may be fast but rare...ill admit they good 1/8th mile cars :)

[Juiced89lx]

Originally posted by BLOWN347LX
I'm tellin' you, my clutch was slippin'...And why you gotta be bringing up old $hit, Juiced??:mad: ;)

:D


Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
ok pm me how bout next monday...

some may be fast but rare...ill admit they good 1/8th mile cars :)

Ok, I will talk to him this afternoon and send you a pm.

[92AWDTalon]

If yall are doing this local let me know. I know of a slow awd eclipse that will be more than happy to run from a roll, or a stop it doesnt matter ;)

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by 92AWDTalon
If yall are doing this local let me know. I know of a slow awd eclipse that will be more than happy to run from a roll, or a stop it doesnt matter ;)

cool cuz i know a few mustangs that will run from..a stop or roll :D

[Juiced89lx]

What part of town are you in? We all live in the north dallas area.

[Schargedcobra97]

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