Perry says Obama taking U.S. toward socialism

[Strychnine]

Speaking in Midland recently:


"I say it's time to stand up. I say we make Tea Parties twice as big..."


"This is an administration hellbent on taking American towards a socialist country."


*Fist in the air* "I am not bashful to get up and say I believe in the 10th Ammendment."




Can't embed... Watch the vid @ the link: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/firstreading/entries/2009/11/12/_perry_midland_find_more.html

[big_tiger]

PLenty of bark, I want to see a little bite.

[thesource]

Republican leadership needs to get back to their conservative roots and hold these asswipes feet to the fire.

[Sean88gt]

OK Perry, now what? Lead us back to the promise land by telling Washington to calm down and ACT on it.

[bcoop]

I hope like hell this is more than just a publicity stunt, since he's trying to get re-elected and all.

[AL P]

If he says any of this baloney after the election, I might care.

[Vertnut]

He's got a little ol' grandma about to whip his ass in the gubernatorial race, so he knows he'd better say something.

[01WhiteCobra]

He's got a little ol' grandma about to whip his ass in the gubernatorial race, so he knows he'd better say something.

Tea Partier Debra Media might be the spoiler for Hutchinson. Appears, at least now, that she is taking the vote away from Hutchinson. Actually interesting since I would have thought she would have taken the votes from pretty hair.

[AL P]

Tea Partier Debra Media might be the spoiler for Hutchinson. Appears, at least now, that she is taking the vote away from Hutchinson. Actually interesting since I would have thought she would have taken the votes from pretty hair.

You notice his Frankie Avalon style hair helmet as well?

[Vertnut]

Tea Partier Debra Media might be the spoiler for Hutchinson. Appears, at least now, that she is taking the vote away from Hutchinson. Actually interesting since I would have thought she would have taken the votes from pretty hair.

I kind of like Medina. She's got some fire, and I like her radical gun view's (open carry).

[Vertnut]

You notice his Frankie Avalon style hair helmet as well?

Probably owns a shitload of "Rave" stock....:wink:

[Paladin]

I have not really been paying that close attention to the Governors race. It appears from info in this thread that Perry has tried to position himself to get some Tea Party votes or endorsement from the Tea Party candidate if there is a runoff between Perry and Hutchinson.

[cannonball996]

Perry is not much of a "tea party" republican, more of a neo-con.
Hutchinson is really a social conservative.

[Slowhand]

Perry is not much of a "tea party" republican, more of a neo-con.
Hutchinson is really a social conservative.

Social conservatives and neo-cons are the last thing the Republican party needs right now.

[89gt-stanger]

Kay Bailey nor Rick Perry should govern the state of Texas.

[Fox466]

Mount up!


I agree that it's more hollow bullshit being given voice just to generate votes.


And I also agree that I like the hell out of Media.

[Paladin]

Perry is not much of a "tea party" republican, more of a neo-con.
Hutchinson is really a social conservative.

I never said he was a Tea Party Republican.

[Paladin]

Social conservatives and neo-cons are the last thing the Republican party needs right now.

I think the conservatives, especially social conservatives, are just what the Republican Party needs.

What exactly do you think the Republican Party needs?


Please don't answer Ron Paul. LMAO!

[davbrucas]

Why are you so against Ron Paul? Who would you rather have a POTUS? I would rather him than our current idiot...

[AL P]

Why are you so against Ron Paul? Who would you rather have a POTUS? I would rather him than our current idiot...


True but I would climb a flagpole to vote for a yellow dog versus voting for the current idiot while on the ground!

[davbrucas]

I agree...
Any candidate that thinks and acts like this has my vote...this has been his track record since he started in politics...yeah, his foreign policy is a little extreme, but we need to focus more on America than other countries right now.

"Special interests have replaced the concern that the Founders had for general welfare. Vote trading is seen as good politics. The errand-boy mentality is ordinary, the defender of liberty is seen as bizarre. It's difficult for one who loves true liberty and utterly detests the power of the state to come to Washington for a period of time and not leave a true cynic."

[5.0_CJ]

I like to see Perry declare war on the united states, hahaha.

[Paladin]

Why are you so against Ron Paul? Who would you rather have a POTUS? I would rather him than our current idiot...

I have stated many times that RP would be better than any of the Dems who ran, but that he was by far the worst of the Republican candidates.

RP would get nothing done. I used the example of Clyde Picht on FW's city council. He had extreme ideas that were not mainstream and he rubbed alot of people wrong. He could never get a 2nd on any of his wild ideas or motions, so several city councilmen went to him, worked out a deal for him to stop his extremist ideas so that he could get some basic stuff done for his constituents. It didn't take long for him to burn several of his peers who had come to him in a conciliatory effort and he went back to getting nothing done for the rest of his term.

RP would be Clyde Picht at the national level IMO.

I want a true conservative in all areas who has common sense in foreign and domestic issues, and RP was only better than the Dems who ran. Every Republican who ran last time was better than him imo, and my first choice was Fred Thompson.

So who was your choice of all who ran last time?

[AnthonyS]

It doesn't matter who is running for office and what party they represent. All of them represent the status quo. Until someone is willing to elect over 500 new representatives and senators that have no alligiance to either political party nothing will change.

Both the democrats and republicans supported the TARP and bailout plans. Both were collosal failures and violations of the Constitution.

Perry and Obama are brothers in Socialism.

[davbrucas]

I agree with RP on most everything but abortion...
-abolish individual income tax
-get rid of the federal reserve
-decrease govt size
-big 2nd and 10th ammendment supporter
-opposes the PA
-opposes federal involvement in health care
-supports tighter border control and no support for illegal aliens
-etc...

I tend to disagree with prolife however.

He sticks to his guns and is against the status quo. I am all for someone that can get the elitist out of Washington as they are corrupt and do not have our best interests at heart. Republican vs Democrat has always been a shitty choice, but now that this fucktard is in office and completely shitting on the Constitution I would much rather have any republican in office rather than Obama.
I dont want to get into a political pissing contest...your opinions obviously differ from mine when it comes to RP. We are more alike that not however. I just dont like seeing my country shit on like it is now and has been the past decade.

[mikeb]

Perry is a politician. Whichever way the wind is blowing, he's on board. Especially if it fills his pockets.

I think that some of this has to do with his competition.

Governor "good hair" is somewhat worried :)

All of this time in office, and he's managed to pass toll road legislature that's fucked anyone living along 121, and his interest in border security is lacking. I'm not impressed.

[Slammy]

haha socialism is gonna save america! Kinda like how outsourcing was supposed to be good for americas economy hahha Only thing it was good for was those business majors getting that new shiney boat or car!

These idiots dont know, dont care what they are doing. Instead of taking real action to create jobs, obama extends unemployment....what a jackass.

We need GOOD PAYING STABLE jobs you pieces of shits in DC! Cant afford a fuckign thing working at Mickey Ds!

American companies MUST hire americans or they need to get the fuck out of my country! I think about what would happen if you went back to the 50s and asked people what they would think about companies throwing hard working skilled americans out on their asses to replace with slave labor from some shithole country. I bet they would call those companies traitors to america and ask why?

[Slowhand]

RP would get nothing done.

Perfect. If nothing's getting done then Washington can't fuck up. Less government.

[Vertnut]

It's 2009, and Ron Paul will still never be POTUS. Maybe he should have run for governor of Texas first? Would he have been better than Mao tse Obama? Sure, but who wouldn't be? That's not a great argument "for" Ron Paul. Once again, a political thread has become a Ron Paul thread.

[davbrucas]

It only turns into an RP thread when someone belittles another for being a Ron Paul supporter. Thats the BS mentality that the news media pulled in the elections. Of course he will never be POTUS....but not because he is crazy. Its because of the corrupt nature of congress...they do not want to relinquish their grip on America and its pocketbook.

[Vertnut]

It only turns into an RP thread when someone belittles another for being a Ron Paul supporter. Thats the BS mentality that the news media pulled in the elections. Of course he will never be POTUS....but not because he is crazy. Its because of the corrupt nature of congress...they do not want to relinquish their grip on America and its pocketbook.

He does not walk on water. I agree with a lot of his idea's, but there are flaws, too. He should have started in the Governor's mansion first, but that's just an opinion.

[davbrucas]

He does not walk on water. I agree with a lot of his idea's, but there are flaws, too. He should have started in the Governor's mansion first, but that's just an opinion.

Of course he doesnt walk on water...and of course he has flaws, but which candidate doesnt? You have to choose your pick based on personal values and decisions. I served my country and lost good friends in combat and politicians that do not have Americas best interests at heart really piss me off. I agree that he should have been governor first...

Who do you guys think the next (and best) GOP candidate will be? If you could choose the POTUS right now, who would it be?

I am with Paladin...I think Fred Thompson will be the next republican president.

[Vertnut]

Of course he doesnt walk on water...and of course he has flaws, but which candidate doesnt? You have to choose your pick based on personal values and decisions. I served my country and lost good friends in combat and politicians that do not have Americas best interests at heart really piss me off. I agree that he should have been governor first...

Who do you guys think the next (and best) GOP candidate will be? If you could choose the POTUS right now, who would it be?

I am with Paladin...I think Fred Thompson will be the next republican president.

I like(d) Fred Thompson when he was running. I don't know if he has that appeal that is needed. After Barry, everyone else will seem so hum-drum to the masses, I don't know if he can pull it off. He's a little droll, especially compared to the "messiah". Thompson would need a really strong VP running mate (i.e. NOT a Biden!), that could draw crowds and really campaign hard. Could that be Palin? I don't know. How about Jendal or Petraeus (even though he was asked about it recently and said he wouldn't)? There's talk of Pawlenty, but I know very little about him at this point in time.

[01WhiteCobra]

Perry is not much of a "tea party" republican, more of a neo-con.
Hutchinson is really a social conservative.

What has he done to lead you to believe he is a neocon?

[AL P]

What has he done to lead you to believe he is a neocon?

"Neocon" is just the progressive way of saying "boogey man" these days.

[01WhiteCobra]

"Neocon" is just the progressive way of saying "boogey man" these days.

Ah ok.

And Hutchinson as a social conservative? I don't see this either. She is pro-abortion (ok, until the viability what ever that means.)

Perry is more of a social conservative.

Hutchinson is more of a neocon than social conservative.

The neocon word gets thrown out there so much it is hard to tell these days. The fact the original neocons where mostly leftists who didn't like the way the welfare state was going (i.e. had a better idea for a welfare state) doesn't seem to get as much play these days. Necons aren't against big government. Many were liberals in their early days. Typically they favor globalism, don't speak out against abortion, don't speak out against homosexuality, etc., etc.

If I had to pigeon-hole Perry I'd put him as a paleocon.

[cannonball996]

What has he done to lead you to believe he is a neocon?

well as texas governor he has very little power to do anything, however he stood by all the needless social programs that have been created in the last 9 years, and did little to protect the border.

as for the tea party movement, I credit ron paul for it, its pure conservatism with out all the social issues.

[Vertnut]

well as texas governor he has very little power to do anything, however he stood by all the needless social programs that have been created in the last 9 years, and did little to protect the border.

as for the tea party movement, I credit ron paul for it, its pure conservatism with out all the social issues.

Ron Paul used the '07 "tea party" as a fundraiser, so I'd keep that halo in the hat box for a while yet.

[Slowhand]

It's 2009, and Ron Paul will still never be POTUS. Maybe he should have run for governor of Texas first? Would he have been better than Mao tse Obama? Sure, but who wouldn't be? That's not a great argument "for" Ron Paul. Once again, a political thread has become a Ron Paul thread.

He most certainly will never be POTUS because he's already said he's not running again. :doh:

I'm not crazy wild about Ron Paul these days, but it the context of Romney, McCain, Palin, Clinton and Obama I'm just not sure how you can say he's not the least crooked, most qualified and most likely least destructive member of that group.

But this discussion has been rehashed on here 8000 times because it never fails that a conservative on here gets offended when his pseduo-anti-big-government-until-my-guy-is-in-office stance gets called into question. This is why the Republican party is in shambles and is doing nothing to stop the degradation of our government: it and its supporters are far too busy placing and shifting blame, pointing fingers, whining and then reneging on promises to cut down on government spending to actually accomplish anything.

[Vertnut]

He most certainly will never be POTUS because he's already said he's not running again. :doh:

I'm not crazy wild about Ron Paul these days, but it the context of Romney, McCain, Palin, Clinton and Obama I'm just not sure how you can say he's not the least crooked, most qualified and most likely least destructive member of that group.

But this discussion has been rehashed on here 8000 times because it never fails that a conservative on here gets offended when his pseduo-anti-big-government-until-my-guy-is-in-office stance gets called into question. This is why the Republican party is in shambles and is doing nothing to stop the degradation of our government: it and its supporters are far too busy placing and shifting blame, pointing fingers, whining and then reneging on promises to cut down on government spending to actually accomplish anything.

I'm not offended at all. Paul supporter's are waaaaay too thin-skinned when there are a ton of questions that come up about him. Why didn't he make a run at Gov here in Texas? If he can't pull it off here, it won't work nationally.

[davbrucas]

Fred Thompson with VP Ron Paul? The liberal media would have a field day with this one...heck, I think that republicans could put up just about anyone and beat Osama.

[cannonball996]

I'm not offended at all. Paul supporter's are waaaaay too thin-skinned when there are a ton of questions that come up about him. Why didn't he make a run at Gov here in Texas? If he can't pull it off here, it won't work nationally.

texas is just not a fiscally conservative enough state for paul.

[Vertnut]

texas is just not a fiscally conservative enough state for paul.

Nothing is...

[davbrucas]

There are issues with every candidate...not just RP. You guys call him radical? WTF do you think we have in office right now? :rolleyes:

[davbrucas]

Nothing is...


And thats a bad thing?

[Vertnut]

There are issues with every candidate...not just RP. You guys call him radical? WTF do you think we have in office right now? :rolleyes:

You act as if I voted for the dickhead we have now. Paul's at least as far right as Barry is left.

[Vertnut]

And thats a bad thing?

Nope. It just won't work.

[Stevo]

Bobby Jindal. 'Nough said.

Stevo

[Paladin]

I agree with RP on most everything but abortion...
-abolish individual income tax
-get rid of the federal reserve
-decrease govt size
-big 2nd and 10th ammendment supporter
-opposes the PA
-opposes federal involvement in health care
-supports tighter border control and no support for illegal aliens
-etc...

I tend to disagree with prolife however.

He sticks to his guns and is against the status quo. I am all for someone that can get the elitist out of Washington as they are corrupt and do not have our best interests at heart. Republican vs Democrat has always been a shitty choice, but now that this fucktard is in office and completely shitting on the Constitution I would much rather have any republican in office rather than Obama.
I dont want to get into a political pissing contest...your opinions obviously differ from mine when it comes to RP. We are more alike that not however. I just dont like seeing my country shit on like it is now and has been the past decade.

I tend to agree with all of RP's positions that you have presented. I have always wondered about doctors being pro-abortion, but I don't really want to go there unless it is an abortion thread.

I stioll think HE is a kook and would never get anything done becuase of his personality (or lack thereof) and his wacky foreign policy. That's just my opinion.

So you think RP was the best choice last election from all of those who ran?

[Paladin]

Perfect. If nothing's getting done then Washington can't fuck up. Less government.

So you are a RP supporter and think he was the best candidate who ran last time?

I am guessing RP supports legalization of marijuana and many other liberal social issues, correct?

[Paladin]

It only turns into an RP thread when someone belittles another for being a Ron Paul supporter. Thats the BS mentality that the news media pulled in the elections. Of course he will never be POTUS....but not because he is crazy. Its because of the corrupt nature of congress...they do not want to relinquish their grip on America and its pocketbook.

It only turns into a RP thread when the whiney RP nuthuggers start coming back pining for him and I call them out. Imagine if I was pining for Fred Thompson like you guys pine for RP. It just seems like you RP supporters are out there in a strange place.

[Paladin]

well as texas governor he has very little power to do anything, however he stood by all the needless social programs that have been created in the last 9 years, and did little to protect the border.

as for the tea party movement, I credit ron paul for it, its pure conservatism with out all the social issues.

How is conservativism without social issues pure conservatism? That's not my definition of conservatism.

I guess that is why I don't think the typical RP supporter is not a true conservative. No conservative I know would have voted for a person and possibly have allowed the biggest liberal to get into the WH. RP supporters sure did though.

[Paladin]

I like(d) Fred Thompson when he was running. I don't know if he has that appeal that is needed. After Barry, everyone else will seem so hum-drum to the masses, I don't know if he can pull it off. He's a little droll, especially compared to the "messiah". Thompson would need a really strong VP running mate (i.e. NOT a Biden!), that could draw crowds and really campaign hard. Could that be Palin? I don't know. How about Jendal or Petraeus (even though he was asked about it recently and said he wouldn't)? There's talk of Pawlenty, but I know very little about him at this point in time.

One of the main reasons I liked Fred Thompson was he didn't need to be President to force his views upon us or to help his ego. I think he actually would have done what was right for the country.

I am not sure who will run in '12 that I will support, but you threw up some interesting names for sure.

I think Palin as VP might be what happens. She draws crowds and would get true conservatives to support the ticket. I think she is the main reason McCain didn't lose by double digits.

[cannonball996]

How is conservativism without social issues pure conservatism? That's not my definition of conservatism.

I guess that is why I don't think the typical RP supporter is not a true conservative. No conservative I know would have voted for a person and possibly have allowed the biggest liberal to get into the WH. RP supporters sure did though.

social issues are always changing, they do not stick with a party platform they are adopted while popular by both parties. looking back at some of the social issues that were popular with the political parties 100 years ago, as popular as they were at the time, its hard to imagine how different our society would be had some of those issues been accepted by our society. the same can be said for 100 years from now, chances are abortion, gay marriage, and other current social issues will no longer be the social issues they are today. social issues either get assimilated or they dont, but they dont linger, instead they make room for new issues.

the conservative platform has always been based on smaller government, less taxes, less spending, and more liberties.

[VETTKLR]

It only turns into a RP thread when the whiney RP nuthuggers start coming back pining for him and I call them out. Imagine if I was pining for Fred Thompson like you guys pine for RP. It just seems like you RP supporters are out there in a strange place.

less pine...more PAH!!!

How 'bout RP for Pres and Thompson as VP to keep RP militarily in check?


Oh my God, did I just say RP for Pres? :doh:

I do like his stand on a shitload of issues, but I just can't get over that isolationist stance with the military.

Fuck, I hate that "we've just got to vote for the lesser of two evils" crap. I pray that Conservatives wipe the floor with Lib's in 2010 and 2012 and they don't fucking blow it, while trying to repair the insane amount of damage that's been done since 2006.

[Slowhand]

It only turns into a RP thread when the whiney RP nuthuggers start coming back pining for him and I call them out. Imagine if I was pining for Fred Thompson like you guys pine for RP. It just seems like you RP supporters are out there in a strange place.

You're the first person that mentioned Ron Paul's name, dipshit.

[Slowhand]

So you are a RP supporter and think he was the best candidate who ran last time?

I am guessing RP supports legalization of marijuana and many other liberal social issues, correct?

You don't seem to know much about Ron Paul's politics for someone that does a lot of criticizing of his politics.

I supported him last election and I think he was the best candidate that ran last time, but that's not saying much at all. I knew from the outset that he wasn't going to win and I never had any illusions that he would. There wasn't any way I was voting Obama or McCain, though, so I voted for Dr. Paul.

And liberal social issues? Ron Paul's platform was pretty much this: bring the country's finances under control (i.e. eradicate the national debt that Bush and now Obama have so kindly run up), stop playing world police and leave social issues the fuck alone because social issues have no place in the American government.

[davbrucas]

Paladin, why do you turn political discussions into personal attacks? I am not a nuthugger of any kind. I live my life and take care of my family. I pay more than my share of taxes and I vote. I served my country in combat and lost many good friends. I have voted republican since I was of age to vote...I wouldnt care if Jesus was running on the democrat ticket...I would still vote republican. So for you to disrespect me(and others) for attempting to help make changes in America is ridiculous. I am a poor country boy from a small town in Texas that just has MD after his name. I am not your typical physician. I love my country and hate my government.
I have already stated my stance on abortion...first trimester abortion at will, 2nd trimester for medical reasons (mother or fetus), third trimester only under very extinuating circumstances such as missed severe neurological issues.

[VETTKLR]

...Paul's platform was pretty much this: bring the country's finances under control (i.e. eradicate the national debt that Bush and now Obama have so kindly run up),


IMO, the main reason Bush is included in that statement is because the Dem's got back into the house and senate in '06, to wreak their fiscal havoc. People easily forget history and are obviously swayed by warm fuzzies. The Dem's were behind Dubya all the way on 9-12-01, but lost interest in bi-partisanship and soon went back to their evil, little ways. Obviously, their constituents are easily swayed back to lock-step liberal policies, which puts us where we are today.

Dubya's policies didn't hurt our economy. Terrorism did....and they didn't do it kindly.




...stop playing world police...
ughhhh there's some more of that "how soon we forget" historical data loss.

Due to America's history of her independence, allies and foes, she has inherited the role of mother, trying to keep the peace. If we rolled up all our worldwide bases and brought 'em all home, how is that going to affect our global relations? Didn't we leave Afghanistan high and dry after we helped them lay some smackdown on communist Russia? Historically speaking, how did that work out for us? Didn't we just leave Georgia hanging to the same folks from Russia? Judging from how this works in the past, how do you think this is going to pan out in the future???




...and leave social issues the fuck alone because social issues have no place in the American government.
werd :cool:

[cannonball996]

actually Bush (W) originally ran on a platform that called for increased spending. increased spending on the military, a missile defense shield, no child left behind, and many other issues. he actually came into office with a budget surplus that he got from clinton.

[VETTKLR]

you got something wrong with a strong military???

Clinton lobbed a couple missiles in the desert while getting a BJ...I think we're all in accord in something a little stronger than that.

[Vertnut]

actually Bush (W) originally ran on a platform that called for increased spending. increased spending on the military, a missile defense shield, no child left behind, and many other issues. he actually came into office with a budget surplus that he got from clinton.

Obama has a deficit that equals all POTUS...total. Bush would not have spent 1/10th of this nut.

[VETTKLR]

No, sir. Not equal to.

MORE THAN all past Presidents, combined.

...and we ain't seen nothin' yet. :eek:

[Vertnut]

No, sir. Not equal to.

MORE THAN all past Presidents, combined.

...and we ain't seen nothin' yet. :eek:

I stand corrected.

[01WhiteCobra]

well as texas governor he has very little power to do anything, however he stood by all the needless social programs that have been created in the last 9 years, and did little to protect the border.

as for the tea party movement, I credit ron paul for it, its pure conservatism with out all the social issues.

What needless social programs?

[Paladin]

You don't seem to know much about Ron Paul's politics for someone that does a lot of criticizing of his politics.

I supported him last election and I think he was the best candidate that ran last time, but that's not saying much at all. I knew from the outset that he wasn't going to win and I never had any illusions that he would. There wasn't any way I was voting Obama or McCain, though, so I voted for Dr. Paul.

And liberal social issues? Ron Paul's platform was pretty much this: bring the country's finances under control (i.e. eradicate the national debt that Bush and now Obama have so kindly run up), stop playing world police and leave social issues the fuck alone because social issues have no place in the American government.


I saw him on all of the debates and have been to his site. I think he is a kook and would never get anything done. I disagree with his extreme foreign policy and think it would be harmful to our country.

Are you saying he is a conservative on drug, abortion, and gay marriage issues? If so, he gets points from me but I still do not think he would be a good President.

[Paladin]

Paladin, why do you turn political discussions into personal attacks? I am not a nuthugger of any kind. I live my life and take care of my family. I pay more than my share of taxes and I vote. I served my country in combat and lost many good friends. I have voted republican since I was of age to vote...I wouldnt care if Jesus was running on the democrat ticket...I would still vote republican. So for you to disrespect me(and others) for attempting to help make changes in America is ridiculous. I am a poor country boy from a small town in Texas that just has MD after his name. I am not your typical physician. I love my country and hate my government.
I have already stated my stance on abortion...first trimester abortion at will, 2nd trimester for medical reasons (mother or fetus), third trimester only under very extinuating circumstances such as missed severe neurological issues.


I was using the RP nuthugger label as a joke mainly. I guess it has run it's course and will try and stop using it except to those who are also kooky.

You are one of the few "normal" seeming RP supporters I have come acroos. I base this opinion off of this board and my personal discussions with people who have RP bumper stickers on their cars. I engaged alot of them in conversation and found the overwhelming majority to be kooks and worshippers of RP.

I apologize for you being insulted by the nuthugger moniker.

[davbrucas]

As POTUS, I think that he would be forced to change his foreign policy views out of necessity...but he will never be president because the mainstream media has him labeled as you do.

[Paladin]

less pine...more PAH!!!

How 'bout RP for Pres and Thompson as VP to keep RP militarily in check?


Oh my God, did I just say RP for Pres? :doh:.

I am still uncomfortable with RP but appreciate your humor.

I do like his stand on a shitload of issues, but I just can't get over that isolationist stance with the military.

Fuck, I hate that "we've just got to vote for the lesser of two evils" crap. I pray that Conservatives wipe the floor with Lib's in 2010 and 2012 and they don't fucking blow it, while trying to repair the insane amount of damage that's been done since 2006.

I am completely okay with this part for sure.

[davbrucas]

I was using the RP nuthugger label as a joke mainly. I guess it has run it's course and will try and stop using it except to those who are also kooky.

You are one of the few "normal" seeming RP supporters I have come acroos. I base this opinion off of this board and my personal discussions with people who have RP bumper stickers on their cars. I engaged alot of them in conversation and found the overwhelming majority to be kooks and worshippers of RP.

I apologize for you being insulted by the nuthugger moniker.

Its cool...I am sure that if I knew you personally that I would have known what you meant. There are kooks that support all candidates...but I can see where you get your disdain for many RP supporters...I think they are just fed up with the status quo and are just looking for someone to challenge it. RP seems to be that person...does he have some radical views? Maybe...but everything that deals with change for the better was probably labeled as such at first....and what Obamas doing isnt change for my better so that doesnt count.

[Paladin]

As POTUS, I think that he would be forced to change his foreign policy views out of necessity...but he will never be president because the mainstream media has him labeled as you do.

I guess my fear of him is the same as Obama or any liberal. I am afraid they may actually carry through with their stated agenda. I will not vote for a liberal on the chance he will be different than what he claimed, so why vote for RP unless he is the lesser of two evils and would keep a far left loony out of the WH. I want to vote for the person I hope actually carries out what they claim they will do!

[davbrucas]

They never do what they say...its about saying what the majority want to hear to get elected and then doing whatever fills your pockets the most...then when it gets close to election time you throw the people a bone and hope that their memory is short....as it has been as far back as I can remember.