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Fox466
09-01-2009, 09:41 PM
Story (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama’s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009)
Seems obsama is going to be making an "uprecedented speech to our children". Odds on the speech including "if your parents say anything bad about me report them to X number". Said in jest, you fat fuck...
Anyone else think we can make the national news if we spread it just right in the coming days? Pull the kids, piss the left off?
sc281_99-0135
09-01-2009, 09:51 PM
YAY! OBAMA YOUTH!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01005/ObamaYouthVideo_1005070c.jpg http://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/obama-youth-brigade-1.jpg
OBAMA YOUTH BRIGADE (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1860759/the_obama_youth/)
Seems oddly similar to another youth organization....
http://taylorsiluwe.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c8e0153ef01156fc434e9970b-400wi http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/images/Hitler%20Youth%20poster.jpg
But it couldn't be. I mean, Barack Obama is the bringer of hope and change. :rolleyes:
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/change-to-socialism.jpg
poopnut2
09-01-2009, 09:53 PM
Sounds like 50's anti-commie shit in my opinion.
Oh well. If I was in grade school, I'd enjoy it.
openroadracer3
09-01-2009, 09:55 PM
hell, i kept him home when the schools made them watch the day he took office.
sorry i didn't make it out there sunday. i had to go the inlaw's house for a cookout.:lame:
**EDIT** nevermind, i just saw it's pre-K through 6th grade.
TheHeadsGirl
09-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Yes, I am none too excited about having to show it to my classes. One thing in our favor (which I did point out to my principal) is that 1pm ET is 12pm CT, so our kids will be at lunch. Maybe we will miraculously miss it!!!!
If I am forced to show it, I am going to use it to help teach propaganda...hey, it's in my TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge & Skills) and is tested on TAKS!
They can bite :naughty: me if they don't like it!!
poopnut2
09-01-2009, 10:02 PM
Yes, I am none too excited about having to show it to my classes. One thing in our favor (which I did point out to my principal) is that 1pm ET is 12pm CT, so our kids will be at lunch. Maybe we will miraculously miss it!!!!
If I am forced to show it, I am going to use it to help teach propaganda...hey, it's in my TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge & Skills) and is tested on TAKS!
They can bite :naughty: me if they don't like it!!
Going through grade school from 1990 to 2002, we did the same thing with every president, rep or dem. Be sure to keep it unbiased. It was usually during the inaugural speech, though. Of course after 9/11 my senior year, we pretty much watched every televised presidential speech until I graduated.
slow99
09-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Said in jest, you fat fuck...
Lmao!
poopnut2
09-01-2009, 10:05 PM
YAY! OBAMA YOUTH!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01005/ObamaYouthVideo_1005070c.jpg http://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/obama-youth-brigade-1.jpg
OBAMA YOUTH BRIGADE (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1860759/the_obama_youth/)
Seems oddly similar to another youth organization....
http://taylorsiluwe.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c8e0153ef01156fc434e9970b-400wi http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/images/Hitler%20Youth%20poster.jpg
But it couldn't be. I mean, Barack Obama is the bringer of hope and change. :rolleyes:
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/change-to-socialism.jpg
Sp where did you get this Obama youth shit? I watched the quick video of a bunch of black kids dancing (that's what they do) and it's obviously not a government funded/endorsed program like the Hitler Youth was. You morons really do think TOO much in to this.
5point0pony
09-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Yes, I am none too excited about having to show it to my classes. One thing in our favor (which I did point out to my principal) is that 1pm ET is 12pm CT, so our kids will be at lunch. Maybe we will miraculously miss it!!!!
If I am forced to show it, I am going to use it to help teach propaganda...hey, it's in my TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge & Skills) and is tested on TAKS!
They can bite :naughty: me if they don't like it!!
I doubt he will be pitching his health care plan or advocating for gay marriage to a group of elementary children. It'll probably be "work hard and study" generic speeches.
poopnut2
09-01-2009, 10:12 PM
I doubt he will be pitching his health care plan or advocating for gay marriage to a group of elementary children. It'll probably be "work hard and study" generic speeches.
Exactly. The "you can be president, too" speech. Fuck being president IMO. If somebody tried to hand me that job I'd say hell no! You see how worn down men look after getting out of that position?
God (don't believe in God) bless anyone that does that shit for so long.
Sean88gt
09-01-2009, 10:24 PM
My kids are in a private school that accepts no federal funding. He can eat a root.
TheHeadsGirl
09-01-2009, 10:31 PM
Going through grade school from 1990 to 2002, we did the same thing with every president, rep or dem. Be sure to keep it unbiased. It was usually during the inaugural speech, though. Of course after 9/11 my senior year, we pretty much watched every televised presidential speech until I graduated.
I will definately keep it unbiased. I'll teach it in context...I'll be sure to use propaganda from every single administration since Woodrow Wilson. I am very much about teaching the facts period. I'll teach them about the propaganda from the World Wars (Goebbels once stated that Germany lost the war due to Western propaganda!) As a matter of fact, I'll probably teach about all the other propaganda and then let them make the connection to the speach by the pres themselves...
I also teach them that all media is propaganda in some form or other, especially the music they listen to (whatever type that may be) sells them a lifestyle that doesn't exist but for a very few, if that. I even teach them that MTV Cribs shows people in houses they don't even own! I'm very, very good at what I do :newangel:
sc281_99-0135
09-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Sp where did you get this Obama youth shit? I watched the quick video of a bunch of black kids dancing (that's what they do) and it's obviously not a government funded/endorsed program like the Hitler Youth was. You morons really do think TOO much in to this.
http://futurestorm.blogspot.com/2009/03/generations-invigorating-volunteerism.html
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388
Section 6104 of The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act requires that a commission be established to investigate, "Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds."
It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. ...
Here's how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities' most pressing needs.
"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."
Similar?
"Teachers are directed to instruct their pupils... and to awaken in them
a sense of their responsibility toward the community of the nation."
In relation to the political decontamination of our public life, the government will embark upon a systematic campaign to restore the nation’s moral and material health. The whole educational system, theater, film, literature, the press and broadcasting – all these will be used as a means to this end.
He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
Adolf Hitler
Nope. Move along people, nothing to see here.
Paladin
09-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Sp where did you get this Obama youth shit? I watched the quick video of a bunch of black kids dancing (that's what they do) and it's obviously not a government funded/endorsed program like the Hitler Youth was. You morons really do think TOO much in to this.
Do you agree or admit that ACORN has gotten government money?
sc281_99-0135
09-01-2009, 11:26 PM
Pop Quiz: Which of these quotes was said by Hitler and which was said by Obama?
A. “…our individual salvation depends on collective salvation. Because thinking only about yourself, fulfilling your immediate wants and needs, betrays a poverty of ambition.”
B. “Our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.”
If these two statements seem similiar, it’s because they both derive from the same philosophy: socialism. NAZI stands for “National Socialist German Workers’ Party”. The socialists of Hitler’s era aren’t much different from those of today in terms of ideology, though most socialists of the modern era are called “latte liberals”. Indeed, Hitler would’ve fit right in with such a group. He was a vegetarian, pro-abortion, an advocate for strict gun control, desirous of universal health care, and continually extolling the virtues of state control.
poopnut2
09-01-2009, 11:48 PM
http://futurestorm.blogspot.com/2009/03/generations-invigorating-volunteerism.html
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388
Similar?
Nope. Move along people, nothing to see here.
I'm too tired to indulge in your entire post but here's what I have from the first link:
"It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. ...
Here's how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities' most pressing needs."
It doesn't say anything about going into battle or anything like that.
If something like this was executed by McCain, people would be saying "It's about time."
I'm too tired to indulge in your entire post but here's what I have from the first link:
"It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. ...
Here's how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities' most pressing needs."
It doesn't say anything about going into battle or anything like that.
If something like this was executed by McCain, people would be saying "It's about time."
What happened to free will and the option of choosing of what one wants to do? The government shouldn't force us to do anything like that.
Slowhand
09-02-2009, 12:27 AM
Man, what a great way to raising an educated, well-rounded child; when conflicts arise in life that you don't agree with, just shield the kid from it entirely! Heaven forbid you have a discussion with your child about what's going on without doing your best to brainwash them into blindly believing what you believe simply because you believe it. Let the fucking kid think for Christ's sake.
What you're suggesting is no better than what Daddy O is doing. I watched a lot of Presidential speeches during my time in school and it didn't hurt me any. Obama is certainly getting very favorable light, but that doesn't mean you should shield your child from the issue entirely.
What happened to free will and the option of choosing of what one wants to do? The government shouldn't force us to do anything like that.
Exactly. I don't give a shit who is enacting it, it shouldn't be done.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 01:22 AM
What happened to free will and the option of choosing of what one wants to do? The government shouldn't force us to do anything like that.
Do you honestly think that there is free will anywhere in the world? Your post is a bit naive.
Do you honestly think that there is free will anywhere in the world? Your post is a bit naive.
To what extent?
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 01:28 AM
To what extent?
You being naive or that free will is an illusion?
You being naive or that free will is an illusion?
How is it that free will is an illusion?
Vertnut
09-02-2009, 04:44 AM
You being naive or that free will is an illusion?
Even God gave man "free will"...but if memory serves, you don't believe in him either?
MadMax404m
09-02-2009, 08:06 AM
It doesn't say anything about going into battle or anything like that.
If something like this was executed by McCain, people would be saying "It's about time."
Hitler never said that directly either.
Why is it people think just because we don't agree with Obama we will automatically agree with McCain/Bush's policies? You haven't been paying attention much have you? Those "people" you are referring to haven't accepted any of the stuff that has been proposed by Obama and after a certain turning point in the Bush administration(last 2-3 years) those "people" haven't accepted anything he did. During the campaign everyone one of those "people" were saying the same shit would happen if McCain came into office and we would be critical of his policies just the same, this is why all over DFWS was spewed "pick the lesser of evil". Those "people" didn't like either canidate nor the policies of which either represented.
Washington is corrupted from all angles, the president is just a pawn in the game. Do I like or agree with his own policies, not in the very least. Do I think he is an extreme socialist who will tear this country apart, yes...do I think he will do it alone? No! It takes many people to pull off what they are doing to this country, he was just the lighter that finally lit the fire that has been building up for years.
Do you honestly think that there is free will anywhere in the world? Your post is a bit naive.
Free will is alive...if I didn't want to go to work today or go to school back in the day I didn't have to. I would pay the consequences with no pay check or lack of an education though.
I was not forced to do hours of community service, I chose to do some...free will.
I am alot like my father, you ask me to do something and I will more then likely help out/do what is asked because most requests are reasonable (friends/family etc) or within the scope of my job.
If you TELL me I MUST do something (i.e. you must do community service, MUST work OT etc, I MUST help my sister move) I can find a reason not to, an excuse or something for why I cannot do it or how it is bull shit.
It's volunteering and community service for a reason when it is done selflessly. Volunteering comes from strong morals given from a strong family upbringing, not govt forcing me to do shit.
If you do not believe there is some free will to do what you want then you are blinded.
I will finish with a quote from my father (who I respect a great deal obviously)
"Son, you can do anything you want in the world, you will just have to deal with the consequences of your decisions and actions after it."
JP135
09-02-2009, 08:45 AM
Sp where did you get this Obama youth shit? I watched the quick video of a bunch of black kids dancing (that's what they do) and it's obviously not a government funded/endorsed program like the Hitler Youth was. You morons really do think TOO much in to this.
That's what THEY do? Would you care to define who "they" are? Surely the level-headed open-minded thinker isn't a racist...
mstng86
09-02-2009, 08:46 AM
What do you mean "thats what they do"?
What do YOU mean "thats what they do"?!?
Free will is alive...if I didn't want to go to work today or go to school back in the day I didn't have to. I would pay the consequences with no pay check or lack of an education though.
I was not forced to do hours of community service, I chose to do some...free will.
I am alot like my father, you ask me to do something and I will more then likely help out/do what is asked because most requests are reasonable (friends/family etc) or within the scope of my job.
If you TELL me I MUST do something (i.e. you must do community service, MUST work OT etc, I MUST help my sister move) I can find a reason not to, an excuse or something for why I cannot do it or how it is bull shit.
It's volunteering and community service for a reason when it is done selflessly. Volunteering comes from strong morals given from a strong family upbringing, not govt forcing me to do shit.
If you do not believe there is some free will to do what you want then you are blinded.
I will finish with a quote from my father (who I respect a great deal obviously)
"Son, you can do anything you want in the world, you will just have to deal with the consequences of your decisions and actions after it."
Exactly.
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 09:18 AM
Free will is alive...if I didn't want to go to work today or go to school back in the day I didn't have to. I would pay the consequences with no pay check or lack of an education though.
I will finish with a quote from my father (who I respect a great deal obviously)
"Son, you can do anything you want in the world, you will just have to deal with the consequences of your decisions and actions after it."
Solid!! Exactly what I was told. This is exactly how I live. Free will is always there.
Even God gave man "free will"...but if memory serves, you don't believe in him either?
What does my religous beliefs have to do with this conversation?
Why is it you overly political types have to be so aggressive as if you are being challenged with any and all statements that are other than "I agree"? Why is everything an arguement, rather than a conversation? This is why nothing gets done anymore, people are too busy talking at eachother rather than with.
Sean88gt
09-02-2009, 09:54 AM
I will finish with a quote from my father (who I respect a great deal obviously)
"Son, you can do anything you want in the world, you will just have to deal with the consequences of your decisions and actions after it."
Every night, after prayers, I tell my daughters something very similar.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 10:25 AM
That's what THEY do? Would you care to define who "they" are? Surely the level-headed open-minded thinker isn't a racist...
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up if that's all you can come up with.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 10:27 AM
Free will is alive...if I didn't want to go to work today or go to school back in the day I didn't have to. I would pay the consequences with no pay check or lack of an education though.
I was not forced to do hours of community service, I chose to do some...free will.
I am alot like my father, you ask me to do something and I will more then likely help out/do what is asked because most requests are reasonable (friends/family etc) or within the scope of my job.
If you TELL me I MUST do something (i.e. you must do community service, MUST work OT etc, I MUST help my sister move) I can find a reason not to, an excuse or something for why I cannot do it or how it is bull shit.
It's volunteering and community service for a reason when it is done selflessly. Volunteering comes from strong morals given from a strong family upbringing, not govt forcing me to do shit.
If you do not believe there is some free will to do what you want then you are blinded.
I will finish with a quote from my father (who I respect a great deal obviously)
"Son, you can do anything you want in the world, you will just have to deal with the consequences of your decisions and actions after it."
Ok, so when have kids really had free will? It's against the law to not go to school or at least be in home school. There are curfews at night for them, and now I think a lot of places are implementing daytime curfews as well.
All of you guys are making a big to-do about nothing. I don't know how it was when ya'll were in school, but when I was which wasn't all that long ago, we watched presidential speeches, maybe not all, but some.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 10:30 AM
Even God gave man "free will"...but if memory serves, you don't believe in him either?
Nope! I also stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was 8. Took a little while longer to figure the God thing out, but I got there.
Ok, so when have kids really had free will? It's against the law to not go to school or at least be in home school. There are curfews at night for them, and now I think a lot of places are implementing daytime curfews as well.
All of you guys are making a big to-do about nothing. I don't know how it was when ya'll were in school, but when I was which wasn't all that long ago, we watched presidential speeches, maybe not all, but some.
I'm 26 years old...I graduated highschool in 2002. I watched no presidential speaches other then Inaguaration in 1992.
The only other thing I watched was one state of the union in my Govt class my senior year which was taken concurrently with the local community college.
Yes my kids will have free will...they do not HAVE to go to school...if they don't go they will pay the consequences though. Same with curfew's...same with anything you have to deal with in laws. You have free will to follow them or not.
You have free will to do the speed limit or not do you not? but if you get caught you pay the consequences hence "You can do anything you want but you have to deal with the consequences and reprocussions"
Ok, so when have kids really had free will? It's against the law to not go to school or at least be in home school. There are curfews at night for them, and now I think a lot of places are implementing daytime curfews as well.
All of you guys are making a big to-do about nothing. I don't know how it was when ya'll were in school, but when I was which wasn't all that long ago, we watched presidential speeches, maybe not all, but some.
Laws of man and free will are two different things entirely.
But you are correct, they have always shown presidental speeches in school. But some who are so blinded by their hate, rather make a big deal of it. It's a speech, even if the kids manage to pay attention half the time, they won't understand a good part of it. It's not a big deal really.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 10:34 AM
I'm 26 years old...I graduated highschool in 2002. I watched no presidential speaches other then Inaguaration in 1992.
The only other thing I watched was one state of the union in my Govt class my senior year which was taken concurrently with the local community college.
Yes my kids will have free will...they do not HAVE to go to school...if they don't go they will pay the consequences though. Same with curfew's...same with anything you have to deal with in laws. You have free will to follow them or not.
You have free will to do the speed limit or not do you not? but if you get caught you pay the consequences hence "You can do anything you want but you have to deal with the consequences and reprocussions"
Actually, if you're kids don't go to school (or be home school'd) YOU will pay the consequences. I'm sure you knew that though.
FATHERFORD
09-02-2009, 10:42 AM
What other presidents addressed the students them selves in schools?
Just curious.
Also, the only time I have ever seen a president talk while at school was during 9/11.
Actually, if you're kids don't go to school (or be home school'd) YOU will pay the consequences. I'm sure you knew that though.
You really are still trying to twist things aren't you? Man has free will, we can continue this debate if you want but I think I've made my point clear.
Yes I am well aware of the consequences of truancy as I was truant all through school for skipping class, had saturday schools to make up days etc and became friends with the truancy officer. I still graduated top 10% of my class, National honors society, 4 year's of straight honor roll GPA etc, but I had to deal with the making up of time on saturdays. I skipped because I would rather sleep in, and make up all the work in 4 hours on a Sat then 2 days of class, had to deal with that though.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 10:48 AM
You really are still trying to twist things aren't you? Man has free will, we can continue this debate if you want but I think I've made my point clear.
Yes I am well aware of the consequences of truancy as I was truant all through school for skipping class, had saturday schools to make up days etc and became friends with the truancy officer. I still graduated top 10% of my class, National honors society, 4 year's of straight honor roll GPA etc, but I had to deal with the making up of time on saturdays. I skipped because I would rather sleep in, and make up all the work in 4 hours on a Sat then 2 days of class, had to deal with that though.
I'm not trying to twist anything. If your kids don't go to school, the parent is responsible just as much, if not more than the child.
I guess technically, yes, you have free will, but if you want to maintain a certain lifestyle you do your part to keep the machine running. Sure, you can say "Fuck this." but most of us aren't willing to accept those consequences.
If I had children, I would not let them listen to Barry.
poopnut2
09-02-2009, 10:51 AM
What other presidents addressed the students them selves in schools?
Just curious.
Also, the only time I have ever seen a president talk while at school was during 9/11.
We watched the Bush inaugural speech. We watched the 9/11 speech, and a few that came after that. We watched the Clinton inaugural speech...twice.
Not sure if any of them addressed schools. I wasn't paying attention because I was a kid and I was busy talking to my friends. Just like the kids now will be.
67camino
09-02-2009, 10:52 AM
So when the Department of Education directs schools to gather children 'round the TV monitors for Obama's pep talk and then have them do this...
-- Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants or puzzle pieces or trails marked with the labels: personal, academic, community, country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in those areas. It might make sense to focus on personal and academic so community and country goals come more readily.
-- Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.
...parents have every right to worry about their children being used as Political Guinea Pigs for Change.
---
Michelle Malkin is the author of the forthcoming "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2009).
I guess technically, yes, you have free will, but if you want to maintain a certain lifestyle you do your part to keep the machine running. Sure, you can say "Fuck this." but most of us aren't willing to accept those consequences.
EXACTLY my point....you have the free will to choose ANYTHING, but you have to deal with the consequences.
FATHERFORD
09-02-2009, 10:54 AM
We watched the Bush inaugural speech. We watched the 9/11 speech, and a few that came after that. We watched the Clinton inaugural speech...twice.
Not sure if any of them addressed schools. I wasn't paying attention because I was a kid and I was busy talking to my friends. Just like the kids now will be.
I know some schools have different policy's. All we ever saw was the 9/11 event, and even that was very limited. Our school pretty much kept out anything of that nature out of the classroom.
forever_frost
09-02-2009, 11:49 AM
I've been screaming about Barry's Brown Shirts for a while. Anytime you mandate that children "rat" on their parents or do community service that is government sanctioned, I get twitchy. Fuck that. Small government.
I get too much more pissed and I'll blow school off on the 12th and be in DC.
futant
09-02-2009, 11:53 AM
Thanks poopnut for giving me a good laugh watching you try to understand free will.
Good luck trying to understand anything else in life.
bcoop
09-02-2009, 12:09 PM
LOL @ Poopnut and his complete misconception of what free will is.
FWIW - I don't recall EVER having to watch ANY inauguration or Presidential speeches when I was in school.
The biggest thing we ever had to watch in school, was Channel 1. On Channel 1, they might have covered a snippet or something, but we never watched anything in full.
Here is the full length presentation:
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Vertnut
09-02-2009, 01:01 PM
Nope! I also stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was 8. Took a little while longer to figure the God thing out, but I got there.
At least it explains your fucked up views...Any man that believes we are the top of the food chain, has to be the ultimate egotist. I think you should have studied the "God thing" a little more diligently, but to each his own.
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 01:55 PM
I've been screaming about Barry's Brown Shirts for a while. Anytime you mandate that children "rat" on their parents or do community service that is government sanctioned, I get twitchy. Fuck that. Small government.
I get too much more pissed and I'll blow school off on the 12th and be in DC.
Be damned glad to have you brother. Think about your obligations, and make a well thought out decision.
I'm both excited and anxious to see how the turnout will be.
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 02:00 PM
FWIW - I don't recall EVER having to watch ANY inauguration or Presidential speeches when I was in school.
The biggest thing we ever had to watch in school, was Channel 1. On Channel 1, they might have covered a snippet or something, but we never watched anything in full.
I can recall channel one. I remember all the coverage we had of Desert Sheild and then Desert Storm. I can recall some minor discussions on President elects, then the commercials started coming in, and poof....(this is also when I began to pay more attention to chicks) Lot's of bright colors, and singing newscasters talking about popular social issues. Then I hit highschool. Paying attention to anything just wasn't happening.
<----Graduated in '97.
I remember having a mock election when I was 9 or 10 between Reagan and Mondale. Reagan won by a land slide and the only thing I remember was talking about Mondale's nuclear freeze and how it'd make us weaker than the Russians. Even at 9 I knew I wasn't going to support a Liberal.
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 02:32 PM
I remember a mock election between Bush and Dukakis.
That was a tough one to call. LOL
forever_frost
09-02-2009, 04:23 PM
I remember channel 1 as well.
My wife is finally home from New Zealand and we're still settling her in or it'd be a lot easier to decide. I'm torn between going and possibly being arrested for things I may say and do and showing up for class
TheHeadsGirl
09-02-2009, 04:27 PM
Laws of man and free will are two different things entirely.
But you are correct, they have always shown presidental speeches in school. But some who are so blinded by their hate, rather make a big deal of it. It's a speech, even if the kids manage to pay attention half the time, they won't understand a good part of it. It's not a big deal really.
They understand way more than you think...especially when they are being indoctrinated with propaganda. At the very least they need to be taught to recognize it for what it is & to think for themselves!
TheHeadsGirl
09-02-2009, 04:31 PM
So when the Department of Education directs schools to gather children 'round the TV monitors for Obama's pep talk and then have them do this...
-- Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants or puzzle pieces or trails marked with the labels: personal, academic, community, country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in those areas. It might make sense to focus on personal and academic so community and country goals come more readily.
-- Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.
...parents have every right to worry about their children being used as Political Guinea Pigs for Change.
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Michelle Malkin is the author of the forthcoming "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2009).
Luckily, I don't have the time to do the DOE's "lesson plans". I will be going on with my day of teaching what the state of TX tells me I have to teach!
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 04:33 PM
I remember channel 1 as well.
My wife is finally home from New Zealand and we're still settling her in or it'd be a lot easier to decide. I'm torn between going and possibly being arrested for things I may say and do and showing up for class
It's a peaceful demonstration. I'll be observing, networking, and planning. Unless rights get stripped during this peaceful, constitutionally protected demonstration, then there should be no reason why someone should get arrested, aside from the crooks that inhabit that District in the first place.
However, your wife just got home, and school is important.
They understand way more than you think...especially when they are being indoctrinated with propaganda. At the very least they need to be taught to recognize it for what it is & to think for themselves!
They don't understand it. They just regurgitate whatever they hear, but comprehend it? No.
fast83
09-02-2009, 04:33 PM
wuth all the important stuff this guy "should" be doing,this is really not important.
another good waste of time mr potus.
(sum bitch)
TheHeadsGirl
09-02-2009, 04:36 PM
They don't understand it. They just regurgitate whatever they hear, but comprehend it? No.
I love you, S...but you are wrong. :sad6: Many of them do "get it". We don't teach the way we were taught when we were in school. The kids are required to use much higher order thinking skills. They are required to write higher order questions as well...It's no longer copy & paste.
forever_frost
09-02-2009, 04:44 PM
It's a peaceful demonstration. I'll be observing, networking, and planning. Unless rights get stripped during this peaceful, constitutionally protected demonstration, then there should be no reason why someone should get arrested, aside from the crooks that inhabit that District in the first place.
However, your wife just got home, and school is important.
I forsee this blowing up big. Some politician or officer is going to over react as they haven't seen a march like this before and they are going to try to clamp down hard on it. When that happens some hot heads are going to push back and when they do, it will either send people to jail or you're going to get a revolution
Strychnine
09-02-2009, 04:50 PM
The biggest thing we ever had to watch in school, was Channel 1. On Channel 1, they might have covered a snippet or something, but we never watched anything in full.
Random fact of the day:
There is no "channel 1" on TV...
Back in the 30's TV channels (VHF, 1-19) took up the 44-294 MHz portion of the spectrum. In the 40's the FCC switched up stuff and what was once allocated to "channel 1" (44-50 MHz) became the doman of FM radio (and TV went from 19 channels to 13).
In the late 40's, FM radio was switched from 44-50 MHz up to the 88-108 MHz portion of the spectrum (still that way today), which again freed the 44-50 MHz range... what was once "channel 1" was then given to "mobile land services" (ie. dispatchers, police, etc).
(Yes, I realize the channel 1 you're speaking of was probably a CCTV broadcast in the school).
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 04:51 PM
I forsee this blowing up big. Some politician or officer is going to over react as they haven't seen a march like this before and they are going to try to clamp down hard on it. When that happens some hot heads are going to push back and when they do, it will either send people to jail or you're going to get a revolution
I've pondered this repeatedly.
My end thought resulted in preparing for whatever may come.
I only hope I can do the men and women that have served for the country I have loved my entire life proud. I know I'm a lowly civilian. I'm well aware of the sacrifices that have been made.
I hope the news cameras are pointed in a favorable direction, for the sake of America.
forever_frost
09-02-2009, 05:02 PM
I am willing to bet it is spun just like they have been. "Tea Baggers started a fight with helpless Congress-people" and then the national guard was called out. Too bad DC is a weapon free zone.
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 05:09 PM
Been thinking that one through as well.
Damn public access internet... This line has housed many statements, but I'll leave it as is.
I should work on my tan, get some nicer clothes, and prepare for my debut on the news. :cool:
forever_frost
09-02-2009, 05:13 PM
"This just in, President Obama has shut down internet, cell phone and all wireless access in Washington DC after a riot errupted today during a metting of racist tea baggers."
Muffrazr
09-02-2009, 05:17 PM
In all honesty, the scenario that plays out more than anything is the Government's use of thugs to encite a conflict.
Something like a large group of panthers that think we have gathered to be racist.
I'm hoping the people that show up to protest are fairly diverse, and that we don't congregate in the usual fashion when large groups of people who don't know each other go to stand next to others they feel familiar with.
Fox466
09-02-2009, 05:31 PM
We watched the Bush inaugural speech. We watched the 9/11 speech, and a few that came after that. We watched the Clinton inaugural speech...twice.
Not sure if any of them addressed schools. I wasn't paying attention because I was a kid and I was busy talking to my friends. Just like the kids now will be.
You're missing the point.
1. You were in high school, by your own admission.
2. It also states that it is K-6. Not high school, at which point you can make up your own mind about the issues. Children can not. They are easily led, which is entirely the point.
3. The article clearly states that this has never been done before.
Nice video at the bottom of this one: Story (http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13249171?_requestid=5883011)
A school principal has apologized for showing a video at an assembly that a politically conservative group leader is calling "radical, leftist propaganda."
Children at Eagle Bay Elementary School in Farmington were shown a short video called "I pledge" on Aug. 28. The video opens with an image of President Barack Obama and part of a speech in which he says, "Let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other." The video then features celebrities making pledges about how they will help the president and the world -- and that's where some say the problem lies.
He said the PTA board chose the video and Wade did not see it before it was shown in the assembly.
"It got to a point where she turned to her assistant and said, 'Oops, I wish I would have seen this before. I don't think I would have shown it,' " Williams said. He said Wade could see how some adults might find the video political.
"She acknowledges she was wrong and apologizes for it and says she's sorry," Williams said. Attempts to reach school PTA leaders Tuesday
The Chalkboard blog
Reporters for The Salt Lake Tribune education desk cover issues from early education and parenting to K-12 and higher education in Utah..
The latest post:
See principal's apology Wednesday, September 02, 2009
evening were unsuccessful.
Williams said Wade plans to send a letter home to parents Wednesday about the issue.
Gayle Ruzicka, president of conservative Utah Eagle Forum, said the video was blatantly political. She said other offensive pledges included, "I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama," ....
So if it's not about obsama reaching out to our children (Brown shirt brigade), what the hell is it?
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Fox466
09-02-2009, 05:37 PM
They don't understand it. They just regurgitate whatever they hear, but comprehend it? No.
So when my five year old was blowing bubbles in the truck one day and looked over at me, then said "Dad, these bubbles are moving faster than the truck", he didn't comprehend that they were indeed moving faster than the truck?
Comprehend, yes, they do. You, as a fledgling dad, simply can't understand this yet.
On a side note, Wylie ISD has taken a stand in which this will NOT be shown in our district. Individual teachers can ask for permission, at which point they have to send emails to every parent notifying them.
Thank you Dr Fuller! Sorry I ever said anything bad about you in the past...
forever_frost
09-02-2009, 05:41 PM
That's exactly what it is. Hell, they even have Obama shoes and backpacks
sc281_99-0135
09-02-2009, 05:43 PM
I would be fucking LIVID if I had a child right now.
Tattle on your parents kids...
Pledge servitude to Obama kids...
We're gonna fuck your future up, to where your generation will truly be worse off than the one that preceded yours.
"We're going to regulate your lives, under the guise of protecting you, in order to control you. " -sc281
Sean88gt
09-02-2009, 05:57 PM
I pledge...to slap the shit out of those egotistical stupid fucks in that video.
Hitler would be high-fiving Obama for how fast he is running this country into the ground and the amount of people that are manning the oars.
gts95
09-03-2009, 08:54 AM
Here is the full length presentation:
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Now them some good-looking Volk!
FATHERFORD
09-03-2009, 12:31 PM
Anyone notice the documents the OP posted have now been removed from the site?
So when my five year old was blowing bubbles in the truck one day and looked over at me, then said "Dad, these bubbles are moving faster than the truck", he didn't comprehend that they were indeed moving faster than the truck?
Comprehend, yes, they do. You, as a fledgling dad, simply can't understand this yet.
On a side note, Wylie ISD has taken a stand in which this will NOT be shown in our district. Individual teachers can ask for permission, at which point they have to send emails to every parent notifying them.
Thank you Dr Fuller! Sorry I ever said anything bad about you in the past...
Well, the upside is that we seem to live in a school district looking out for our kids. :)
What I meant by comprehend, it that kids are very trusting, especially something coming from adults. If they're watching this video they have been told it's important, they won't question the video intent or content. So what they are being told magically becomes true because they were told it was. I agree with what you are saying. I don't want the government raising our children anymore than you do.
Muffrazr
09-03-2009, 12:47 PM
Anyone notice the documents the OP posted have now been removed from the site?
I still see them.
However, I did notice that the administration is looking to reword their approach.
FATHERFORD
09-03-2009, 12:53 PM
I still see them.
However, I did notice that the administration is looking to reword their approach.
Keeps saying there is an error for me.
They are on the ed.gov site though I found out.
http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf
http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf
openroadracer3
09-05-2009, 01:41 PM
i just found out garland is offering it up. but we have the option to opt out if we provide a note to the principal on Tuesday.
his note from me is already in his back pack.
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