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turkey_85gt
07-28-2009, 08:46 PM
A long-awaited agreement between the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the man considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, Fedor Emelianenko, is expected to be announced by UFC President Dana White on Friday, a source with information about the negotiations told The Times today.
The source, who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak publicly about the dealings, called negotiations between the UFC and Fedor "very civil" just days after Fedor's scheduled Affliction Trilogy fight Saturday against Josh Barnett was canceled.
Affliction wound up folding its MMA promotion activities and announced an apparel deal to sponsor UFC.
Now, Fedor, who has previously fought in organizations including PRIDE Fighting Championships in Japan, Bodog Fight and Affliction, is crossing over to the world's most successful MMA fighting organization, as well.
With a 30-1 record that includes victories over former UFC heavyweight champions Tim Sylvia, Andrei Arlovski and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Emelianenko would likely get an immediate shot at reigning UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar.
The source, who is not affiliated with the UFC, said officials were discussing details on the public announcement of the deal, which in the past has been complicated by Emelianenko's resistance to accept UFC's standard six-fight contract and his unwillingness to surrender some merchandising and marketing revenues.
But this month White said he was optimistic he could bring Emelianenko aboard, and his confidence was well-placed. The UFC declined to elaborate on Friday's scheduled announcement.
-- Lance Pugmire
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/07/fedor-emelianenko-ufc-finalizing-deal.html
JJG 5.0
07-29-2009, 12:55 AM
i hope he smashes brock like a bug
This is the same unconfirmed story running rampant right now that was run by the LA Times by an anonmous informant. I'll believe it when I see Fedor in the ring.
The big dispute between Fedor's camp and the UFC isn't even money, but rather the UFC doesn't want Fedor fighting/competing at any other events or competitions like his Sambo stuff in fear that he could be injured before a UFC fight. Fedor still wants to be able to compete in his favorite Russian sport.
Buzzo
07-30-2009, 04:08 PM
Fedor's management team TURNED THIS HUGE OFFER DOWN as insufficient.
* A 6-fight, $30 million contract
* An immediate title shot at UFC 103 against Brock Lesnar
* A cut of the UFC 103 pay-per-view on top of Fedor's purse
* The ability for Fedor to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished
* The ability for Fedor to compete in combat Sambo
Apparently Fedor's team wanted MORE than five million dollars a fight, AND the right to co-promote and bill any UFC which he appeared on as M-1 along with UFC. Quite honestly, and I respect the hell out of Fedor Emelianenko after watching a shitload of his fights live or on DVD, this is utterly ridiculous. Most guys aren't outside UFC aren't even getting five figures a fight, a hell of a lot of guys INSIDE UFC aren't getting six figures a fight, and Fedor was not only given a seven figure offer he was given WELL more than anybody else under contract would get. These numbers were revealed by radio show host Carmichael Dave of Sports 1140 KHTK AM, who apparently got the information from Dana White himself, and were confirmed by MMAWeekly.com.
slickwick
07-30-2009, 04:13 PM
Fedor's management team TURNED THIS HUGE OFFER DOWN as insufficient.
* A 6-fight, $30 million contract
* An immediate title shot at UFC 103 against Brock Lesnar
* A cut of the UFC 103 pay-per-view on top of Fedor's purse
* The ability for Fedor to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished
* The ability for Fedor to compete in combat Sambo
Apparently Fedor's team wanted MORE than five million dollars a fight, AND the right to co-promote and bill any UFC which he appeared on as M-1 along with UFC. Quite honestly, and I respect the hell out of Fedor Emelianenko after watching a shitload of his fights live or on DVD, this is utterly ridiculous. Most guys aren't outside UFC aren't even getting five figures a fight, a hell of a lot of guys INSIDE UFC aren't getting six figures a fight, and Fedor was not only given a seven figure offer he was given WELL more than anybody else under contract would get. These numbers were revealed by radio show host Carmichael Dave of Sports 1140 KHTK AM, who apparently got the information from Dana White himself, and were confirmed by MMAWeekly.com.
Thats just fucking stupid. If he is that much of a shitstick and turns down litterally EVERYTHING he has asked for and more, I dont even know if i want to see him fight in the UFC. Personally, if i was Dana, i would find someone else to lay a smackdown on Lesnar.
JJG 5.0
07-30-2009, 04:17 PM
yeah i dont agree with that... i would like to see the fight and dana did do everything he wonted.... makes me mad
GSXRK5
07-30-2009, 04:23 PM
Wow that is crazy.
Fedor's management team TURNED THIS HUGE OFFER DOWN as insufficient.
* A 6-fight, $30 million contract
* An immediate title shot at UFC 103 against Brock Lesnar
* A cut of the UFC 103 pay-per-view on top of Fedor's purse
* The ability for Fedor to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished
* The ability for Fedor to compete in combat Sambo
Apparently Fedor's team wanted MORE than five million dollars a fight, AND the right to co-promote and bill any UFC which he appeared on as M-1 along with UFC. Quite honestly, and I respect the hell out of Fedor Emelianenko after watching a shitload of his fights live or on DVD, this is utterly ridiculous. Most guys aren't outside UFC aren't even getting five figures a fight, a hell of a lot of guys INSIDE UFC aren't getting six figures a fight, and Fedor was not only given a seven figure offer he was given WELL more than anybody else under contract would get. These numbers were revealed by radio show host Carmichael Dave of Sports 1140 KHTK AM, who apparently got the information from Dana White himself, and were confirmed by MMAWeekly.com.
M-1 is denying this report.
http://sherdog.com/news/news/m-1-fedor-not-offered-30-million-18816
Buzzo
07-30-2009, 04:38 PM
M-1 is denying this report.
http://sherdog.com/news/news/m-1-fedor-not-offered-30-million-18816
well shit
AbecX
07-31-2009, 12:30 AM
If he turned that down he's even more of a douche bag than he already is.
SuperWho?
07-31-2009, 02:23 AM
If he turned that down he's even more of a douche bag than he already is.
Read the link. The fact that he is sticking to his principles doesn't make him a douche.
In a precursor to today's Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) conference call from Dana White, M-1 Global Co-owner/President Vadim Finkelchtein has issued a press release regarding recent negotiations between the two MMA promotions. In his comments, Finkelchtein aimed to downplay the rumored contract details circling around the internet and various media sites. He also indicated that talks are ongoing, with the UFC, as well as other major organizations and that it is the intention of M-1 Global to continue to foster a fruitful exchange. The full press release follows.
Press Release:
"There have been recent reports stating that talk between M-1 Global and the UFC regarding Fedor fighting in the UFC have ended. Like some of the other reports that have surfaced, this is incorrect.
"It is unfortunate that so much incorrect information has been leaked to the public. It is M-1's preference not to negotiate in public and we are unsure why people claim that Fedor and M-1 turned down a six fight, $30 million contract to fight in the UFC when no such offer was ever made.
"Even though Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White did not meet with Fedor in person on Tuesday, they were represented over the phone. Outside of representatives of the UFC and M-1, no other company was represented during our negotiations. Since we did not go to the media with details of the meeting and only responded to the erroneous reports, we are unsure how these reports started.
"It's unfortunate because these type of tactics will not help ensure that M-1's talks with the UFC are fruitful. M-1 Global is still interested in continuing to negotiate with the UFC and while we are fielding offers from other major promotions, nothing has been decided. It is our hope that the UFC will remain in active dialogue with us as we try to find ways for us to work together. All we are asking is that there is give-and-take in the negotiations and that they are not one-sided."
- Vadim Finkelchtein, Co-owner/President
M-1 Global
AbecX
07-31-2009, 06:21 PM
Read the link. The fact that he is sticking to his principles doesn't make him a douche.
Its THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS.... He's probably making $10 an hour at M-1, hell Dana said they would COPROMOTE THE FIGHT. I call bullshit on the '30 mill wasn't offered' Dana probably offered his first born to Fedor, he wants this fight more than all the dfwstangers who want to stick it in any girls pooper that posts on this site... COMBINED.
SuperWho?
07-31-2009, 07:23 PM
Its THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS.... He's probably making $10 an hour at M-1, hell Dana said they would COPROMOTE THE FIGHT. I call bullshit on the '30 mill wasn't offered' Dana probably offered his first born to Fedor, he wants this fight more than all the dfwstangers who want to stick it in any girls pooper that posts on this site... COMBINED.
You retard. He said he absolutely would not co promote. Do some research before making stupid uneducated posts. JKD posted a link in the other thread verifying what I said.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15693/dana-white-hints-ufc-signing-heavyweight-fedor-emelianenko-now-unlikely.mma
AbecX
07-31-2009, 09:27 PM
I already knew that... he's missing out on a golden opportunity to get his M1 shit out there. Its a fail fail, they just dont like dana white and how america has bastardized this sport.
If google wanted to give me 30 million and co-promote my site, i'd fucking do it.
Littlemoney
08-01-2009, 01:32 PM
Friday, July 31, 2009
by Joe Hall (joeh@sherdog.com)
18850
On the morning of negotiations with M-1 Global and Fedor Emelianenko, Dana White didn’t just wake with a good feeling. The UFC president says he knew he was going to sign the top-ranked heavyweight in the world.
“This is going to happen,” White said he told UFC co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta. “It’s going to happen today. We’re going to make this thing happen.”
Days later, however, Emelianenko is back in Russia and still outside the UFC. White was adamant during a media conference call Friday that the fault belongs to M-1 Global.
“I was f---ing miserable, miserable … because we couldn’t make this deal,” White said. “I was so confident we were going to get this done because we were willing to do it. We were willing to make a deal at almost any cost.”
The “almost” involves co-promoting. White said he won’t do a deal that includes co-promotion, and M-1 Global President Vadim Finkelstein has said he won’t do one that excludes it.
“We built this business, this entire freaking industry,” White said. “How are they going to come in and help us co-promote? It’s basically them coming and saying, ‘We’ve got this guy and some people say he might be the best heavyweight in the world. So for that, we want half your business.’ Yeah, OK. That sh-t probably works in Russia. Not here.”
White added that the Fertittas’ gaming license would hinder co-promoting with M-1.
“People from other countries just don’t walk in and jump in business with the Fertitta brothers,” he said. “There has to be full background checks and all kinds of crazy sh-t. It doesn’t work that way. It’s impossible; it will never happen.”
Other than co-promotion, White said he had relented on previous sticking points such as allowing Emelianenko to compete in sambo tournaments. He characterized himself as “the nicest Dana ever” during negotiations and described his offer to Emelianenko as “amazing.” No figures were discussed, but White guaranteed the Russian would not be offered a better deal.
“He got offered a f---ing assload of money,” White said. “A ton of money, everything he wanted. He can go fight in sambo every f---ing Thursday night if he wants to. He can do everything he wanted to. We showed them nothing but respect.”
White sounded equal parts angry and exasperated Friday. He had said he didn’t want to discuss Emelianenko but then did numerous times over the hour-long call.
“It’s insanity to turn down a deal like this,” White said. “To turn down a deal like this, you don’t care about proving you’re the best in the world. You don’t want to fight the best in the world. You don’t care about money. How do you deal with something like that?”
Several times White reiterated that the door to a deal was still open, then he kind of closed it by saying he was over the deal and didn’t want to discuss Emelianenko anymore, then he opened it again by saying M-1 could call him right then and they could reach an agreement if they’d budge on co-promoting.
By the call’s end White was back to questioning Emelianenko’s status as the best in the world and wondering why the media cares so much about a heavyweight who will not challenge himself in the sport’s top promotion.
In that way, the UFC wagons have circled. Might as well. M-1’s are going round and round, too, and against everything Dana White was certain of when he woke one morning this week, Fedor Emelianenko is still not in the UFC.
Maybe Fedor knows something we don't. The heavyweights are getting bigger and stronger with more talent to boost. The days of Tim Silva type heavies owning the division are over.
AdamLX
08-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Signed with Strikeforce
http://www.strikeforce.com/news/news.asp?story_id=189
BOOSTED32V
08-03-2009, 01:04 PM
signed with strikeforce
http://www.strikeforce.com/news/news.asp?story_id=189
Wow!
Wow!
It's not a surprise really. It was the only other place he could have gone that could pay him what he wanted. But now he's in a place where there is no chance for competition for him. The #2 over there is Arlovski and we all saw what Fedor did to him.
I wonder how long it will be before Courture and Lesnar start thinking about jumping ship to Strikeforce.
It's not a surprise really. It was the only other place he could have gone that could pay him what he wanted. But now he's in a place where there is no chance for competition for him. The #2 over there is Arlovski and we all saw what Fedor did to him.
I wonder how long it will be before Courture and Lesnar start thinking about jumping ship to Strikeforce.
Arlovski is not the # 2 over there...he got dominated by Rogers.
Werdum and Overreem are there as well....there's 3 potential matchups for him.
JJG 5.0
08-03-2009, 10:54 PM
i wonder why he signed with strike force over ufc
i wonder why he signed with strike force over ufc
Because the UFC would not agree to co-promote with M1 Global.
JJG 5.0
08-03-2009, 11:28 PM
what would co promote do exactly
LMFAO
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1773/danafedor2name.gif
SS Junk
08-05-2009, 12:16 PM
I would say he's scared of getting the shit kicked out of him by a wrestler...
Osiris
08-05-2009, 12:36 PM
Well that's bullshit. I'm starting to think that Fedor's camp is a bit afraid of losing in the UFC.
Well that's bullshit. I'm starting to think that Fedor's camp is a bit afraid of losing in the UFC.
Not at all. I think it's more greed than anything else. He's in high demand and Fedor wants to be able to make money in as many places as possible. Being able to compete in other places while under contract is unheard of anywhere for anyone. He'll be fighting for major dollars at StrikeForce, still get paid from Sambo appearances and also make the insane money he is paid in Japan all at the same time. If he had signed with the UFC, he would not be able to do any of that.
I thought the article said that he could still play Sambo whenever he wanted even if he signed with the UFC? It will be ashame if he gets hurt/beat before the UFC could broker a deal with him.
I thought the article said that he could still play Sambo whenever he wanted even if he signed with the UFC? It will be ashame if he gets hurt/beat before the UFC could broker a deal with him.
At first UFC didnt want him to compete anywhere else. But then gave in saying he could, just not within a couple of months within a scheduled UFC fight in case he got hurt. I would be bad buisness for the UFC to put him on a card, sell out so people could see Fedor fight, only for it not to happen.
It would be funny to see Dana White lose it. I don't think he will mind very much when Anderson Silva goes to boxing. He isn't very happy with Silva these days after his last two fights.
Osiris
08-06-2009, 10:10 AM
It would be funny to see Dana White lose it. I don't think he will mind very much when Anderson Silva goes to boxing. He isn't very happy with Silva these days after his last two fights.
Why not?
Why not?
Silva has stated many times that his direction is to pro boxing and wanting to fight Roy Jones Jr. He's wanting more money(understandably, everyone always wants more) but his last two fights have been horrible. He just doesn't want to be in the UFC anymore and White is trying to keep him from ruining his career. Just because he's a great UFC fighter doesnt mean he can go to an entire different sport and take on someone like Jones Jr. Silva is simply looking for an easy payday and it disgusts White.
One of the main reasons Fedor didn't sign with UFC is he still has a 3 fight contract with M1 - Global. M1 Global isn't going to let their big pay day go without co promoting and getting their share of the profits right now. They are doing what they should do, protect their best interests even thought it's not for the greater good (fight fans to see the matchups they want right now) After this SF contract is up there is still the chance of him coming to UFC so one can still hope.
I don't like Fedor not signing with UFC that much, but I can see why he and M1 did what they did.
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