Michael Vick Opinions

[mstng86]

I am surprised no one has posted anything on this, if they have, sorry.

So what does everyone think of the NFL basically letting Michael Vick resume his career in the NFL? Does he deserve a second chance? Is the punishment to light by the NFL? Where does he end up?

I personally think its a privilige to be in the NFL, and you can't take away his chances of working in his chosen profession. That being said, I think the NFL punishment should probably be half a season, and I have NO IDEA who would want to pick him up.

No surprise if he ends up in San Antonio and working out for the cowboys though.

[BLUOVAL]

Even though I dont agree with the type of human being he is, I think he has served his time and should be able to get on with his life. SI is speculating that the Deadskins are interested. Leave it to Snyder to reel him in. At least JJ has his head on right for this one.

[gip99drop]

Timed served and He needs to play without a 4 game suspension.

[bcoop]

What exactly, would the Cowboys do with him?


We've got Romo, the best backup in the league (Kitna), and McGee.


I've said it a hundred times, and nobody listens, so I'll say it again. Vick will NOT end up in Dallas. I don't give a shit where he winds up. He won't last. He sucked before, and hasn't played a game in 2 years. It's not like he's going to make a ground breaking impact on whatever team he lands with.

[milk]

Give Homo the boot and bring Vick to Dallas








MILK

[bcoop]

Timed served and He needs to play without a 4 game suspension.

How so?


He has no time served to the NFL. State/federal charges, yes. To the NFL? Nope. And he needs to serve his time to them, too.

[mstng86]

I think he is going to have to come to the conclusion he can't be a qb in the league anymore, and settle for some kind of scat back, wide receiver role. he could be interesting at corner to, he has the size and speed.

[gip99drop]

How so?


He has no time served to the NFL. State/federal charges, yes. To the NFL? Nope. And he needs to serve his time to them, too.

What would you give him then? How many games?

[slickwick]

What exactly, would the Cowboys do with him?


We've got Romo, the best backup in the league (Kitna), and McGee.


I've said it a hundred times, and nobody listens, so I'll say it again. Vick will NOT end up in Dallas. I don't give a shit where he winds up. He won't last. He sucked before, and hasn't played a game in 2 years. It's not like he's going to make a ground breaking impact on whatever team he lands with.

Do you know about the Wildcat its been around for a few years now...... if you dont, you should look it up,that would seem like Vick's specialty. :dunno: Joking of course.

And we probably could get him pretty cheap. Also, The Dallas Cowboys these days are alot like the gridiron gang if you ask me. We love Ex-Cons and menaces to society. Im not bashing on My Boys, im just stating the undeniable.

[bcoop]

Do you know about the Wildcat...... that would seem like Vick's specialty.
And we probably could get him pretty cheap.

So you think we need a 4th QB to run the wildcat? No thanks. I don't care if they could get him for $1/yr. He'd still be eating up a valuable roster spot. Not going to happen. Don't want him, don't need him.

[bcoop]

What you you give him then? How many games?



16 game suspension and a fat ass fine. 4 games is weak.

[slickwick]

So you think we need a 4th QB to run the wildcat? No thanks. I don't care if they could get him for $1/yr. He'd still be eating up a valuable roster spot. Not going to happen. Don't want him, don't need him.

A valuable roster spot? :confused: The only thing i can see negative coming fform where ever Vick goes is Media attention. and the cowboys seem to bring that on themselves, so that should not be a problem. i Still dont see a vaild argument that you have brought up, other than your holding a grudge and sticking up for all your PETA nazis.

[bcoop]

A valuable roster spot? :confused:



Yeah, there is this thing called a roster, and teams are only allowed 53 players on the roster. Each and every roster spot is valuable. ESPECIALLY when you already have three QBs, two kickers, etc. I didn't realize this was difficult to comprehend.


i Still dont see a vaild argument that you have brought up, other than your holding a grudge and sticking up for all your PETA nazis.


I'm sticking up for my PETA nazis? Are you fucking retarded? Wait, don't answer that. Where have I held a grudge? Where have I stuck up for the PETA nazis? It's ok, I'll wait until you point it out.



My issue with it, is that Michael Vick sucks. I didn't know I needed a reason other than that. Pretty simple to me.

[kpc01]

I guess I am a little tougher on him but I think he should be out of the NFL for good. He did do "some" time for what he did but if he goes back to the NFL the benchmark is not being set very high.

I have been a cowboys fan for 30 years and would never watch another game if Jerry took on Vick. Of course thats just my opinion but I do support it...

[bcoop]

He did do "some" time for what he did but if he goes back to the NFL the benchmark is not being set very high.





Everyone seems to forget Ray Lewis. There is a murderer playing in the NFL. And you want this guy to never play again because he fought dogs? I'm not defending what they guy did, but the NFL has already set the bar pretty low....


Oh, yeah. Like Henry always says.... "His friend did it."

[slickwick]

Yeah, there is this thing called a roster, and teams are only allowed 53 players on the roster. Each and every roster spot is valuable. ESPECIALLY when you already have three QBs, two kickers, etc. I didn't realize this was difficult to comprehend.




My issue with it, is that Michael Vick sucks. I didn't know I needed a reason other than that. Pretty simple to me.

Im not going to expand on the PETA joke, sorry i hurt your feelings.
And a roster huh? So thats where all the players come from. Im not looking for a Lesson in Fooseball boy, just making my points.
How do you know Vick sucks? i havent seen him play in two years and if im correct he has 11505 passing yards in 5 years, 2 of which he hardly played and 3859 rushing yards. Seems like a preety good pickup for the right price if you ask me.

[Paladin]

I think he has served his time and after his time is paid to the league, let him play wherever he can. It is freaking football, not anything where he has some control or power over other people. If he has a skill or talent that someone will pay him to do, why shouldn;t he be allowed to do it?

[slickwick]

I guess I am a little tougher on him but I think he should be out of the NFL for good. He did do "some" time for what he did but if he goes back to the NFL the benchmark is not being set very high.

I have been a cowboys fan for 30 years and would never watch another game if Jerry took on Vick. Of course thats just my opinion but I do support it...

Do me a favor and take a look at this list, then tell me how many of these players played again after there run in with the law. And tell me dogfighting is far worse than these charges.

http://armchairgm.wikia.com/The_NFL's_All-Time_Criminals

[bcoop]

Im not going to expand on the PETA joke, sorry i hurt your feelings.


You didn't hurt anyone's feelings. I just think it's quite comical that you think I support PETA in any form or fashion. I've never said a fucking word about what I think about it, one way or the other. You're just making assumptions. Wrong ones, as usual.



How do you know Vick sucks?

Seriously? I've seen him play. He sucks. Maybe you can explain why he never did shit for the Falcons.



Just another overhyped college QB that can't cut it in the NFL. Much like Vince Young, and thousands of others.

[slickwick]

Just another overhyped college QB that can't cut it in the NFL. Much like Vince Young, and thousands of others.

Vince Young had Panic attacks, like a Vag. Vick fought dogs. Just let the guy play, if he sucks, cut him. He knows if he comes back its make or break so if he cant do it now, he never will be able to do it.

Once again, the PETA thing... it was a joke. Its gone way to far. Wooooosssaahhh bcoop, wooooosahhhhhh.

[kpc01]

Everyone seems to forget Ray Lewis. There is a murderer playing in the NFL. And you want this guy to never play again because he fought dogs? I'm not defending what they guy did, but the NFL has already set the bar pretty low....


Oh, yeah. Like Henry always says.... "His friend did it."

I am sure I've missed many that were just as bad or worse, but he has stood out in the media and people(kids alike) see him and know more about him than the others.

I also like the quote that I truely beleive in, which I admit makes me biased

"I've met more dogs that are nicer/smarter than most people I know"

[kpc01]

Do me a favor and take a look at this list, then tell me how many of these players played again after there run in with the law. And tell me dogfighting is far worse than these charges.

http://armchairgm.wikia.com/The_NFL's_All-Time_Criminals

Your right, I don't think these guys should play either, unfortunately My morals and ethics aren't carried very far into the commisioners thoughts....People suck nowdays and no one cares like they should. If I had any say in it all the troublemakers would be out of all sports. they are role models whether they want to be or not....and there is no reason to support negativity to our already suffering society of bad people!

[slickwick]

"I've met more dogs that are nicer/smarter than most people I know"

Oh God, Darest I say it...... PETA

[GSXRK5]

I'm pretty sure JJ would have picked him up as he does all people who screw up some way or another. But I heard last night on the news JJ said he has no interest in Vick. So I don't expect to see him here unless we sign him to a year and see where he's at. And really cheap too.

[slickwick]

Your right, I don't think these guys should play either, unfortunately My morals and ethics aren't carried very far into the commisioners thoughts....People suck nowdays and no one cares like they should. If I had any say in it all the troublemakers would be out of all sports. they are role models whether they want to be or not....and there is no reason to support negativity to our already suffering society of bad people!

That, I can agree with. But you cant just up and start this trait now. Kinda unfair when you have a suspected murderer still playing in the league.

[mstng86]

Maybe we are all analyzing this wrong. maybe karma will catch up with him, and he blows a knee or breaks a leg, and never comes back. Im just sayin, it could happen.

[slow06]

How so?


He has no time served to the NFL. State/federal charges, yes. To the NFL? Nope. And he needs to serve his time to them, too.

So the time he spent in Jail not playing football, that doesn't count? I don't understand the difference, he wasn't playing football for two years anyway who cares who put it in place.

The NFL it just trying to make a statement and it's weak as hell. It's not like they are "sticking it to him" with a 6 week suspension, that is a joke. Goodell and the NFL like money too much to take a real stand on anything.

I think it is crappy what he did but I know that I make mistakes all the time so I try to be humble )even though hurting a dog is pretty low). I want a lab/golden puppy so bad.

Found this article that made me laugh:
http://fairfax-loudoun.injuryboard.com/miscellaneous/out-of-jail-and-on-the-field-michael-vick-lives-to-play-football-again-.aspx?googleid=267936

Not surprisingly, Vick won't be allowed to own a dog, according to the NFL. It does look like he's at least allowed to pet a dog, under the rules of his reinstatement, a good thing since Vick has proposed working with the Humane Society as one way to further show his remorse for bankrolling the infamous Bad Newz Kennels dog fighting business.

[slickwick]

So heres a question, do you think the reason people are butt hurt about Vick coming back to the NFL is because of the crime he commited, or because of what the media has turned the crime he committed into? This is in all seriousness,

[mstng86]

So heres a question, do you think the reason people are butt hurt about Vick coming back to the NFL is because of the crime he commited, or because of what the media has turned the crime he committed into? This is in all seriousness,

I think the media has played a really big role in creating alot of the public opinion on this, and thats nothing new, they do that in just about every news story you see. Its no longer about presenting a news worthy story, its also about making it gain ratings and have entertainment value. Regardless of what the media says, I believe what he participated in was one of the worst things you can do, but its also not much different than hunting if you really think about it. he still deserved to go to jail, and suffer the consequences of his actions in our society.

[Taylor]

I'll take Romo over Vick all day everyday, especially in our pass-oriented offense. Vick is elusive, can run, and has a strong arm but he's not very accurate. I also like how our team does not have any attention whores or ex-convicts this season.

[Badass2000gt]

See what Bcoop is forgetting, which is the only reason I'm not a cowboy fan, is the cowboys has a dumbass owner in Jerry Jones. I wouldn't put pass Jerry picking up Vick. I do agree with Bcoop that it would be a dumbass move, and the second biggest dumbest move Jerry has made. But as a cowboy hater I hope Jerry does it.:firedevil:

[Taylor]

He's said in like 3 different interviews now that he has 0 interest in Vick. It's not happening. We're gonna have enough trouble as it is with 3 QBs and 3 kickers on the roster.

[Badass2000gt]

He's said in like 3 different interviews now that he has 0 interest in Vick. It's not happening. We're gonna have enough trouble as it is with 3 QBs and 3 kickers on the roster.

It's still Jerry. Did you really think TO would come here?

[kidcapri]

What exactly, would the Cowboys do with him?


We've got Romo, the best backup in the league (Kitna), and McGee.


I've said it a hundred times, and nobody listens, so I'll say it again. Vick will NOT end up in Dallas. I don't give a shit where he winds up. He won't last. He sucked before, and hasn't played a game in 2 years. It's not like he's going to make a ground breaking impact on whatever team he lands with.

I would have to respectfully disagree about having the best backup QB in the league. I think Jeff Garcia is a much better backup than John Kitna.

[Badass2000gt]

I would have to respectfully disagree about having the best backup QB in the league. I think Jeff Garcia is a much better backup than John Kitna.

But we really haven't seen what Kitna can do with a good team. Garcia was on a decent teams with the eagles and the bucs. You really can't compare the two yet.

[Taylor]

It's still Jerry. Did you really think TO would come here?

Considering the talent we had then vs now...yeah I did. Part of me wishes we hadn't cut him.

[Badass2000gt]

Considering the talent we had then vs now...yeah I did. Part of me wishes we hadn't cut him.

I thought it was fucking retarded cutting TO. I mean TO on one side and Roy Williams on the other would be a pretty good deep threat. But hey its Jerry. The guy never makes a good move.

[Taylor]

Eh I think it's too early to tell. I don't have a lot of patience for "TO Drama" whether it was all just over-dramatized or actually happening. You can't argue with the guy's work ethic and results though.

[Taylor]

I could see Vick playing for Denver or Oakland.

[Badass2000gt]

Eh I think it's too early to tell. I don't have a lot of patience for "TO Drama" whether it was all just over-dramatized or actually happening. You can't argue with the guy's work ethic and results though.

Really I didn't think he was all that bad here. I think the media start alot of shit with whatever team he is on. I was suprised when the cowboys released him.

[Taylor]

Yeah I despise the media. Especially Dallas media. I stopped reading the FWST because they never had a single positive thing to say about the Cowboys. Nothing but a bunch of pessimistic shit-talking retards.

[gip99drop]

Could be going to the Vikings.

[bcoop]

See what Bcoop is forgetting, which is the only reason I'm not a cowboy fan, is the cowboys has a dumbass owner in Jerry Jones. I wouldn't put pass Jerry picking up Vick. I do agree with Bcoop that it would be a dumbass move, and the second biggest dumbest move Jerry has made. But as a cowboy hater I hope Jerry does it.:firedevil:

While in the past you'd have a point, Jerry's said a million times, for a loooong time now, that he had zero interest in Vick.



Jerry's cleaning the club up, by cutting Pacman and TO, to get rid of the distractions. Someone (Stephen Jones) finally got his ear, and opened his eyes to the other side. I'd be surprised to see Jerry pick up any more trouble makers for a while.

[bcoop]

I would have to respectfully disagree about having the best backup QB in the league. I think Jeff Garcia is a much better backup than John Kitna.

For once, I agree with Badass2000GT. Kitna was with a TERRIBLE Detroit team, and the year prior to last year, he put up pretty decent numbers, all things considered. He wasn't a bad QB, just plagued with injury last year. I actually had Kitna as my QB on FF two years ago, and I won the league starting him every week. I still stand by what I said. Best backup in the league. Time will tell.

[Buzzo]

If he came to Dallas, atleast he would have his dogfighting buddy Nate Newton here to show him around.

[BOOSTED32V]

Oh, yeah. Like Henry always says.... "His friend did it."Why am I getting drug into this? First off FUCK MICHEAL VICK! I've already been on record how I feel about this hoodrat. I don't even like dogs, actually I dislike them. However, this asshole not only fought dogs, which to me isn't that big if a deal, it's the torturing, mutilating and abusing the dogs. Like has been proven, if these clowns will do this to dogs they will do it to humans, so fuck him and all of his bad newz kennel buddies. He doesn't deserve to be back in NFL because he lied through his fucking teeth about not being involved to everyone that mattered.
And just like anyone else when jail time came to everyone involved, they snitched his ass out to help cover their own ass, because they know MV was not going to take care of them while they sat in prison, so his buddies/family rolled over on him.
I don't know of anyone else who has done something so disgusting that's in the NFL, Ray Lewis didn't murder anyone, one of his crew did, does that make him a murderer? Trust me they were trying to get his ass too, but in the end the right people were convicted, they would have just as easy rolled over on him if he had done it.

[slickwick]

Oh, yeah. Like Henry always says.... "His friend did it."

Ray Lewis didn't murder anyone, one of his crew did, does that make him a murderer? Trust me they were trying to get his ass too, but in the end the right people were convicted, they would have just as easy rolled over on him if he had done it.

I got nothin. LMAO, the irony!

[bcoop]

Why am I getting drug into this?

You're not getting drug in to it, I just mentioned your catch phrase. :006: Like Fred's "I'de fuck her in the ass."

[bcoop]

I got nothin. LMAO, the irony!

What irony? You've got my name showing what Henry said. I didn't say it.

[slickwick]

What irony? You've got my name showing what Henry said. I didn't say it.


There is no hope for the ignorant.

[bcoop]

There is no hope for the ignorant.

I agree. Good luck to you.


You can't even quote correctly.

[slickwick]

You just had to kill the thread, didnt you?

[bcoop]

You just had to kill the thread, didnt you?

You're an idiot. That's about all I've got.

[slickwick]

Theres no sense to quote me anymore, we are the only two on here now. Because you FUCKED UP.

Congrats,

SlickWick.

[bcoop]

Theres no sense to quote me anymore, we are the only two on here now. Because you FUCKED UP.

Congrats,

SlickWick.




You fucking jackass. You quoted me, and Boosted32v, but you fucked up and somehow quoted me as saying what Henry said. Are you REALLY too fucking ignorant to figure that out? Congrats on making the ignore list, stumpfuck.

[Taylor]

Man half this forum acts like a bunch of fucking children ahahaha

[Geor!]

Everyone seems to forget Ray Lewis. There is a murderer playing in the NFL. And you want this guy to never play again because he fought dogs? I'm not defending what they guy did, but the NFL has already set the bar pretty low....


Oh, yeah. Like Henry always says.... "His friend did it."

I don't forget his bitch ass, but that's because my team plays that sumbitch twice a year. One difference: Lewis was never convicted of murder (as much of a sham as that was).

[mstng86]

The thread has been hijacked for the most part, but its still fun watching bcoop and bigcolter go at it.

[bcoop]

One difference: Lewis was never convicted of murder (as much of a sham as that was).

Now you're just arguing semantics. That fool did it. I know it, you know it, and he knows it.



Someone's got a fat wad of cash waiting for them when they get out.

[slickwick]

Now you're just arguing semantics. That fool did it. I know it, you know it, and he knows it.



Someone's got a fat wad of cash waiting for them when they get out.

First thing so far we have agreed on!

[poopnut2]

I'm for him going back to the league. Yes, he commited a horrible crime, but he went to prison...not pussy celebrity prison BTW for almost two years. I honestly don't think he will give the law any trouble at all from now on.

Now, for his trip to the tittybar the day before he was to meet with the commissioner of the NFL? Stupid move. If I was going to apply for a job and the only thing the boss knew about me was that I just got out of prison, the last thing I would want to do is let him know that I went to a strip club the night before our meeting.

The American Justice System said he paid for his crime. Who am I to argue that?

[Cartman]

I think he has served his time and after his time is paid to the league, let him play wherever he can. It is freaking football, not anything where he has some control or power over other people. If he has a skill or talent that someone will pay him to do, why shouldn;t he be allowed to do it?

creepy, we agree on this

there are players in the NFL that have killed another person, or helped in some form and the NFL said it was ok for them.

[mstng86]

I'm for him going back to the league. Yes, he commited a horrible crime, but he went to prison...not pussy celebrity prison BTW for almost two years. I honestly don't think he will give the law any trouble at all from now on.

Now, for his trip to the tittybar the day before he was to meet with the commissioner of the NFL? Stupid move. If I was going to apply for a job and the only thing the boss knew about me was that I just got out of prison, the last thing I would want to do is let him know that I went to a strip club the night before our meeting.

The American Justice System said he paid for his crime. Who am I to argue that?

I think they found out the trip to the boobybar was a fabricated story. But can you imagine how bad you are going to want some trim without having it for 18 months?

[Taylor]

I think they found out the trip to the boobybar was a fabricated story. But can you imagine how bad you are going to want some trim without having it for 18 months?

Yeah that story wasn't real.

[poopnut2]

I think they found out the trip to the boobybar was a fabricated story. But can you imagine how bad you are going to want some trim without having it for 18 months?

Oh damn. Never heard that it was fake. Gotta love the media.

[Taylor]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8118d192&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[jluv]

Fuck PETA and fuck Michael Vick. See? It's easy to hate both.

[Buzzo]

Fuck PETA and fuck Michael Vick. See? It's easy to hate both.
Yea but I'd rather go to a hood ass dogfight with Vic, than to one of those damn PETA rallys.

[jluv]

Yea but I'd rather go to a hood ass dogfight with Vic, than to one of those damn PETA rallys.


Eh, not me. As retarded as I think PETA is, I'd rather have my eyeballs scooped out with a rusty spoon than have to witness a bunch of thugs get their rocks off by watching dogs tear each other up.