So, I played my first round of golf today... tips? [Archive]

DON SVO

07-05-2009, 06:46 PM

I haven't swung a golf club since junior high, and only play putt putt as far as actual contact is concerned. Technically I played only 12 holes... I did not buy enough and the water hazards gobbled them up. I averaged 6.82 per hole... running that number out the back puts me at 123ish. I wanted to get under 150 and I was well on pace to do so.

Notes:
1. I need to go to a driving range.
2. More balls.
3. Sun screen.
4. Another gallon of water.

I'm left handed: Why does my swing take up so much to the left? I finally compensated for it by purposely lining up right, and accepting the inevitable slice. Did better after that!

I had a couple holes that were elevated green shots... what's the best way to get underneath the ball (swing motion, club choice, speed, etc) without it landing and running out after it hits?

Badass2000gt

07-05-2009, 09:09 PM

Slowhand

07-05-2009, 09:21 PM

Don the best advice I got when I first started golfing, was to take a lesson or two. Which I did at the pga tour superstore. I took at least 6 lessons and it helped me out a bunch. I never swung a club in my life and now I have been playing for a year and half and I am shooting mid 90's. People can tell you things cause they did for me but it didn't help what so ever. Go take a lesson, I think they are 40 dollars for an hour.

What he said. There are many different things that could be causing the issues you're having with your swing and there's no good way to correct a swing if you're not one on one with someone to see exactly what they're doing. Spend a little bit of money and get someone's full, devoted attention on your swing and it'll improve in a hurry.

Outside of that, just get out there and play. Hit balls and play. There's no other way to get good at golf.

0 GT 2

07-06-2009, 04:36 PM

When it comes to elevating the ball your natural instinct is to try and get under it. You actually want to do the opposite and and strike down on the ball rather than scoop it. The only thing that will help you get the right point of contact is practice. Ideally your swing bottoms out about two inches in front of where your ball lies.

jakesford

07-06-2009, 04:48 PM

If you want to start playing, get with someone for some leasons asap... Going out and trying to figure out a swing is just going to start bad habbits that will be harder to correct down the road. If you get with someone now to begin with the basics, you will be practicing correct form, grip, etc.

As far as getting under the ball, there isn't a need to "help" get the ball up. The loft of the club does all the work.

David

07-06-2009, 04:58 PM

Smaller clubs.

32VfromHell

07-07-2009, 12:05 PM

Smaller clubs.

HEYO!

But really, yeah i would go in for some lessons. Should be fun too as you will see some good progress with only a few lessons.

So far, whats your impression of the game, with only 12 holes in under your belt since jr. high?

buzntxn

07-07-2009, 12:20 PM

try this, just make sure your club head does not get behind or ahead of your hands/arms. that means at the point of contact that club should be like an extension of your penis, straight down and lined up with the rest of your body.

buzntxn

07-07-2009, 12:27 PM

and about the swing thing... you work with what you got. you arent going to hire an instructor and expect a PGA caliber swing from 5-10 lessons. i dont care how you swing, its all about the point of contact with the ball. There are always just a couple minor things that can be done to correct ANY swing.

and you are very lucky to be left handed as you can go out to the range with someone and basically mirror them. (i mean if they know what they are doing :P)

openroadracer3

07-07-2009, 12:30 PM

here's a fantastic tip for the beginner.

let the faster group behind you play through. :439:

DON SVO

07-07-2009, 12:54 PM

HEYO!

But really, yeah i would go in for some lessons. Should be fun too as you will see some good progress with only a few lessons.

So far, whats your impression of the game, with only 12 holes in under your belt since jr. high?

It was an absolute blast. Like bowling, I could dwell on it and pick apart what I was doing wrong... UNLIKE bowling, I'm not good enough to correct myself yet. I'm going to go to a driving range today and see if I can drill the ball semi straight.

mikecobra95

07-07-2009, 01:11 PM

Don, the best thing I can tell you is a tip I got years ago about slicing. Do not compensate for the slice, it only makes it worse! Do the opposite and close your stance a bit, dont't open up and aim for a slice, it only makes it worse.

A slice is caused by 2 things, sometimes both at the same time. Open club face at impact, and/or and outside to inside swing plane coming through the ball.

Get a lesson or 2 to start, then just like bowling, practice your ass off. Most beginners have trouble with touch around the greens. Sure up your short game first. Hitting the ball far is cool and all, but golf is ALL about the short game. Trust me...... Chipping and putting will shave tons of strokes off your round if you get it down.

Tyrone Biggums

07-07-2009, 01:12 PM

You filmed it?

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MotoMan

07-07-2009, 03:37 PM

Best advice I can offer is not for your swing but make sure your grip is correct. I started playing several times a week a little over 2 years ago and I had a horrible slice. I talked to friends, had some coaching and still couldn't fix my slice. Went and spent 15 minutes with a pro at one of our clubs and the first thing he said before he even saw my swing was "how's your grip?". Turns out that my grip was just off enough for me to slice almost every time. So before you try to correct a swing, make sure your grip is correct.

Badass2000gt

07-08-2009, 10:29 AM

It was an absolute blast. Like bowling, I could dwell on it and pick apart what I was doing wrong... UNLIKE bowling, I'm not good enough to correct myself yet. I'm going to go to a driving range today and see if I can drill the ball semi straight.

And you still suck at bowling.:)

BreedLove

07-08-2009, 11:00 AM

Don pretty much like everyone has said, everyones problems with their swing are unique to them. I would start out buy going to a PGA tour store or something and asking one of their pros to take a look at your swing. They will do it for free, and are extremely helpful. Next thing is, if you're serious keep at it. I know you're a fairly dedicated bowler, well you're going to have to do that plus more for golf. It's all about muscle memory.

mikecobra95

07-20-2009, 11:04 AM

I played a round of golf yesterday with Don. He's into it that's for sure. With a lot of practice and some lessons he will be hooked on golf for a long time.

Good work Don, keep at it:) Everyone's gotta start somewhere, wnjoy your journey in golf, it's a great game

bcoop

07-20-2009, 01:10 PM

Don, I'm going to repeat something that my boss told a coworker while we were on a course in Orlando earlier this year.

"This is what you need to do. Go take a lesson, and then quit."

mikecobra95

07-20-2009, 01:13 PM

Don, I'm going to repeat something that my boss told a coworker while we were on a course in Orlando earlier this year.

"This is what you need to do. Go take a lesson, and then quit."

LOL, Don's no quitter. Golf is the single hardest sport out there, period. Other Sports may take more athletic ability, like hockey and Football, but Golf provides no room for error. It's a mental challenge. Good equipment doesn't make up for faults in your swing and game. You have to have consistent and good technique every swing.

Golf is awesome, it's frustrating at times, but it's amazing when you get over that beginners hill and start learning the game itsself.

5.8 STANG

07-20-2009, 03:44 PM

pm sent

BlackSnake1996

07-20-2009, 04:08 PM

There are actually several different causes for your slice. As Motoman mentioned, check your grip. Swing plane from out to in will cause this. Also, try moving the ball a few inches back in your stance. It may be up too far, causing the club face to be closed at point of contact. This creates a spin on the ball, much like ping pong.

347Mike

07-20-2009, 07:05 PM

Don, I'm going to repeat something that my boss told a coworker while we were on a course in Orlando earlier this year.

"This is what you need to do. Go take a lesson, and then quit."

Thats only what someone says when they don't have the ambition to learn or are quiters. :D

PS - Put the gd driver away for now.

bcoop

07-20-2009, 07:19 PM

Thats only what someone says when they don't have the ambition to learn or are quiters. :D

PS - Put the gd driver away for now.

It was pretty funny. We were out with a big wig from a national chain. Bossman kept apologizing to the customer. "I'm so sorry you have to play with these fucks on a regular basis. They are terrible. I'm going to send Brent and Brian to a golf camp. As for Zach, you need to go take a lesson and then quit."

DON SVO

07-21-2009, 05:31 PM

It's a pain in the ass that's for sure. I'm getting some lessons, and a set of newer irons. I'd like to shoot under 100 at Willow Springs before October.

Baron

07-21-2009, 09:00 PM

It's a pain in the ass that's for sure. I'm getting some lessons, and a set of newer irons. I'd like to shoot under 100 at Willow Springs before October.
You will be surprised at how many strokes you will take off once you get "used" to your swing. I am going to try and hit the range a couple times to try and get used to the knee brace, and that should help get mine stroke count back closer to normal.

The more you do it right, the more you will do it right. It just takes time.

Slowhand

07-21-2009, 10:13 PM

It's a pain in the ass that's for sure. I'm getting some lessons, and a set of newer irons. I'd like to shoot under 100 at Willow Springs before October.

It's nice to have goals in golf, it maintains some direction for the clusterfuck that you're getting in to. Don't forget about your short game and putting; nothing shaves strokes off your score like being able to scramble up and down. You can skull the ball all of the way up to the green and still manage to salvage a par or bogey if you can chip and putt.

openroadracer3

07-21-2009, 10:30 PM

i shot 125 at sherrell park course #2 today, but we played 27 holes. 84 for the 1st 18 and 41 on the 3rd nine.

playing at D.A.C. tomorrow.

Slowhand, here's a good tip for you. use cheap golf balls. i'd recommend Top Flight XL Straight's. they are under 9 bucks for 15.

Who Needs 8

07-22-2009, 08:27 AM

Nate

07-22-2009, 08:33 AM

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If you're learning to play and planning on playing alot, I'd suggest a cheap POS driver until you've dialed in your swing because you're going to trash the first driver you use.

wut? I still have my first mizuno driver I got when I started playing and it's not trashed by any means. Granted it's a bit outdated NOW but it was 1 year old when I picked it up.

Who Needs 8

07-22-2009, 08:41 AM

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mikecobra95

07-22-2009, 09:47 AM

It's a pain in the ass that's for sure. I'm getting some lessons, and a set of newer irons. I'd like to shoot under 100 at Willow Springs before October.

Good, always good to have a goal like that. I don't set a goal per say anymore, I work on hitting teh Par 3's at par or better, or work on my driver one round, irons the next one, depends on what course I am playing adn what I am trying to accomplish.

I will shoot under par at Willow this summer, there, that's a goal.

DON SVO

07-22-2009, 06:30 PM

My new irons arrive tomorrow, I'm going to get my putter re-sized when I get my lesson as well.

BlackSnake1996

07-22-2009, 07:47 PM

It's a pain in the ass that's for sure. I'm getting some lessons, and a set of newer irons. I'd like to shoot under 100 at Willow Springs before October.

My 1st game ever was at Willow Springs. I had to ask every shot which iron to hit and I still shot a 96. True story. But as golf will have it, I shot a 94 yesterday...:frown:

DON SVO

07-23-2009, 06:16 PM

MotoMan

07-23-2009, 06:39 PM

I got my new irons in. Wow what a difference in feel. They're graphite shafted, and all the weight is in the head of the club... COMPLETELY different feel to the swing. The others were more like swinging a bat... it also helps that none of these are effin' lengthened :rolleyes: like my other set. LOL once I re-size my putter and re-grip my sand wedge, I'm out of excuses :)

I'd recommend this for your putter grip http://www.golfsmith.com/products/243248/2_THUMB_GRIP/2_Thumb_Putter_Grip_System

BlackSnake1996

07-23-2009, 06:43 PM

I got my new irons in. Wow what a difference in feel. They're graphite shafted, and all the weight is in the head of the club... COMPLETELY different feel to the swing. The others were more like swinging a bat... it also helps that none of these are effin' lengthened :roll eyes: like my other set. LOL once I re-size my putter and re-grip my sand wedge, I'm out of excuses :)

TAKE THEM BACK!!!

Just messing with ya man. I hate the graphite shafts on irons myself. I loose too much distance with them. My partner just finally switched over and he is hitting his irons further now also. But...if they feel good, that's better than ya had.

So, which irons did ya get?

BlackSnake1996

07-23-2009, 06:46 PM

I'd recommend this for your putter grip http://www.golfsmith.com/products/243248/2_THUMB_GRIP/2_Thumb_Putter_Grip_System

Hey MotoMan, I have been hearin great things about the wide grips for purtters. Havent tried one yet though.

MotoMan

07-23-2009, 07:08 PM

Hey MotoMan, I have been hearin great things about the wide grips for purtters. Havent tried one yet though.

I just switched to a wide grip for my putter just a couple months back and I feel like it's made a huge difference in my short game. I don't have the two thumb grip like I linked but next time to the golf shop I'm going to put that one on my other putter to compare both grips. I currently have this one and love it so far. http://www.golfsmith.com/cm/products/57467/Winn/Excel_Jumbo_AVS_Black_Pistol_Putter_Grip?&lcode=cross_sales&cm_re=cm_cs_-top-_-top&cm_mmc=crosssell-_-cm-_-0-_-1

After reading the reviews about them I had to try one out, and if $10-$20 can improve my game by 5-10 strokes then it's worth it to me.

Adam_aoc

07-23-2009, 07:09 PM

Hit your ball in the trees... just to keep in the shade....

BlackSnake1996

07-23-2009, 07:49 PM

I just switched to a wide grip for my putter just a couple months back and I feel like it's made a huge difference in my short game. I don't have the two thumb grip like I linked but next time to the golf shop I'm going to put that one on my other putter to compare both grips. I currently have this one and love it so far. http://www.golfsmith.com/cm/products/57467/Winn/Excel_Jumbo_AVS_Black_Pistol_Putter_Grip?&lcode=cross_sales&cm_re=cm_cs_-top-_-top&cm_mmc=crosssell-_-cm-_-0-_-1

After reading the reviews about them I had to try one out, and if $10-$20 can improve my game by 5-10 strokes then it's worth it to me.

I'm gonna have to try one. Hopefully someone I play with will get one and I'll try it. But then again, for 20 bucks...

DON SVO

07-23-2009, 09:49 PM

TAKE THEM BACK!!!

Just messing with ya man. I hate the graphite shafts on irons myself. I loose too much distance with them. My partner just finally switched over and he is hitting his irons further now also. But...if they feel good, that's better than ya had.

So, which irons did ya get?

Tommy Armour Silver Scot OS

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BlackSnake1996

07-23-2009, 09:51 PM

Tommy Armour Silver Scot OS

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Nice!

NEAL

07-30-2009, 11:05 PM

<-----took up golf a month ago and it's about the most fun I've had in years. Absolutely love it. Wayne if you and Don ever wanna go play just let me know.

DON SVO

07-30-2009, 11:10 PM

fuck, we play all the time now Neal. We got a tee time for Sunday, but unless we have issues it's already 4. PM me your number if you're interested.

Badass2000gt

07-30-2009, 11:23 PM

fuck, we play all the time now Neal. We got a tee time for Sunday, but unless we have issues it's already 4. PM me your number if you're interested.

Hey don I don't know if you have been to this site. It's golfq.com. They have discount for rounds of golf. Sign up is free and easy.

BlackSnake1996

07-31-2009, 07:14 AM

<-----took up golf a month ago and it's about the most fun I've had in years. Absolutely love it. Wayne if you and Don ever wanna go play just let me know.

Damn Neal. I didnt know you played. For sure man!

NEAL

07-31-2009, 08:31 AM

fuck, we play all the time now Neal. We got a tee time for Sunday, but unless we have issues it's already 4. PM me your number if you're interested.If you wanna play tomorrow morning we can too. I'll be at the Mesquite Golf Course at 8:00 anyways(Wife is taking lessons). You guys get up and get outta bed and we can do this. My brother in law is the only other one who's going. Cal me at work 214-349-0991.

Damn Neal. I didnt know you played. For sure man!Where do you normally play? Gimme a call and we may arrange something. Does the wife ever come with you?

openroadracer3

07-31-2009, 12:00 PM

NEAL

07-31-2009, 01:19 PM

Neal, check out The Shores. it's where i have been playing lately. IMO Mesquite is overpriced.

let me know if you want to play out there and i'll meet you out there. after 2:00 on weekdays it's only 25 bux with a cart.
Where is it located? I'm on the Player Development program at Mesquite so it's pretty cheap for me there. Plus the seclusion of the back 9 is awesome. But I do want to play elsewhere just to get a change of scenery.

openroadracer3

07-31-2009, 01:27 PM

Where is it located? I'm on the Player Development program at Mesquite so it's pretty cheap for me there. Plus the seclusion of the back 9 is awesome. But I do want to play elsewhere just to get a change of scenery.

yeah i do agree with you about the back nine there. i was on the NMHS freshman golf team and we played there daily back in the late 70's.

i'm in garland, jeromy (whiteboy) knows me. he took care of me when my Triax broke a few weeks ago. my son and i are playing the Old Course at Firewheel this afternoon, come on out and catch the back nine with us.

NEAL

07-31-2009, 01:29 PM

yeah i do agree with you about the back nine there. i was on the NMHS freshman golf team and we played there daily back in the late 70's.

i'm in garland, jeromy (whiteboy) knows me. he took care of me when my Triax broke a few weeks ago. my son and i are playing the Old Course at Firewheel this afternoon, come on out and catch the back nine with us.I may just do that. The clubs are in the trunk.

openroadracer3

07-31-2009, 01:39 PM

I may just do that. The clubs are in the trunk.

sent you a PM.

BlackSnake1996

07-31-2009, 09:29 PM

If you wanna play tomorrow morning we can too. I'll be at the Mesquite Golf Course at 8:00 anyways(Wife is taking lessons). You guys get up and get outta bed and we can do this. My brother in law is the only other one who's going. Cal me at work 214-349-0991.

Where do you normally play? Gimme a call and we may arrange something. Does the wife ever come with you?

My wife, play golf...LOL, hell no.

I wish she would though.

NEAL

08-03-2009, 10:00 PM

My wife, play golf...LOL, hell no.

I wish she would though.Susan just took her 1st lessons on Saturday.......then Sunday we went on the course. Frustration is an understatement.

BlackSnake1996

08-03-2009, 10:06 PM

Susan just took her 1st lessons on Saturday.......then Sunday we went on the course. Frustration is an understatement.

:biglaugh:

Susan n2o2

08-03-2009, 11:29 PM

Susan just took her 1st lessons on Saturday.......then Sunday we went on the course. Frustration is an understatement.

Yes...frustration will occur when someone who has been playing for ONE MONTH tries to tell you everything you are doing wrong on every hole. I was having a hard enough time trying to remember everything that I was told in a 3 1/2 hour lesson!!

Badass2000gt

08-03-2009, 11:48 PM

Yes...frustration will occur when someone who has been playing for ONE MONTH tries to tell you everything you are doing wrong on every hole. I was having a hard enough time trying to remember everything that I was told in a 3 1/2 hour lesson!!

LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! Neal :owned2:

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 07:44 AM

NEAL

08-04-2009, 08:38 AM

It was fun though, right? :006:Well she's ready for the PGA. She walked the whole damn course. But she did ride from the green to the next tee box.:confused2:

Susan n2o2

08-04-2009, 11:22 AM

Well she's ready for the PGA. She walked the whole damn course. But she did ride from the green to the next tee box.:confused2:

Is that supposed to be funny Mr. Woods?

Susan n2o2

08-04-2009, 11:41 AM

It was fun though, right? :006:

It really was....Out of 18 holes I had only two good drives....it was worth it! I'll get there eventually....Love the game but I think I need to stick to the range for a while so I don't piss everyone off that's behind me on the course.

dragginura$$

08-04-2009, 01:47 PM

I had a couple holes that were elevated green shots... what's the best way to get underneath the ball

:greddy2:

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 01:52 PM

I had a couple holes that were elevated green shots... what's the best way to get underneath the ball

:greddy 2:

You don't. That's a very common mistake to think that you need under the ball. I promise this...if you try what I'm about to tell you, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Put the ball just a little forward in your stance an try to nail the ball into the ground. It will create lift. :)

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 01:55 PM

Well she's ready for the PGA. She walked the whole damn course. But she did ride from the green to the next tee box.:confused2:
Whaaa??? :confused2:

It really was....Out of 18 holes I had only two good drives....it was worth it! I'll get there eventually....Love the game but I think I need to stick to the range for a while so I don't piss everyone off that's behind me on the course.
Try playing in the week when the courses are not so busy. Its good to learn by actually playin. Always allow faster players to play through. But spending time on the range is always a good ideal.

Baron

08-04-2009, 01:56 PM

I hit a dog!

openroadracer3

08-04-2009, 04:46 PM

I hit a dog!

i once hit a guy on a backhoe when they were doing work at Mesquite Municipal about 20 years ago. the ball hit him flush in the chest and it dropped straight down in his lap. he reached down and handed me my ball when we went up to him and his only statement was "third time this week".

Wario

08-04-2009, 04:55 PM

Anyone play in Arlington/GP?

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 04:55 PM

I hit a dog!

LMAO! Yeah ya did. That was funny. :006:

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 04:56 PM

Anyone play in Arlington/GP?

Not yet, but I need to get that way and try some of the courses there.

Baron

08-04-2009, 04:58 PM

I'm down

Wario

08-04-2009, 05:11 PM

Not yet, but I need to get that way and try some of the courses there.

Post up if you do. I like www.tangleridge.com

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 05:15 PM

Post up if you do. I like www.tangleridge.com

I hear thats a bad ass course. I'll do it.

Baron

08-04-2009, 05:23 PM

Post up if you do. I like www.tangleridge.com
I'm always in for some tangle ridge.

openroadracer3

08-04-2009, 05:36 PM

i'll play too if it is next week.

if we can pick a central location that doesn't get too crowded & get enough players, it would be cool to do a 3 or 4 team best ball scramble tourny.

100 bux per team - 4 player team - 25 bux a person plus greens fees and cart.

Wario

08-04-2009, 06:10 PM

Fern

08-04-2009, 06:34 PM

Be the ball, Don. Just be the ball, be the ball... be. the. ball.

openroadracer3

08-04-2009, 06:35 PM

Oh hell yeah!! I suck at golf though. :dead1:

that's the good thing about best ball scrambles. you may get lucky and hit a good shot the team can use when the others shank.

Tyrone Biggums

08-04-2009, 08:43 PM

Anyone play in Arlington/GP?

I'd be down. I haven't played in years, so it would be quite comical.

BlackSnake1996

08-04-2009, 09:21 PM

openroadracer3

08-04-2009, 09:37 PM

Sure. Why not. Could be loads of fun.

great!

i mominate you to organize it.:banana:

Wario

08-04-2009, 10:25 PM

that's the good thing about best ball scrambles. you may get lucky and hit a good shot the team can use when the others shank.

I'm sure i'll be good for a shot or two. ;)

BlackSnake1996

08-05-2009, 11:39 AM

great!

i mominate you to organize it.:banana:

Nope! I organized the last one, and only a few showed up. :disappointed:

I bet you are great at this kind of thing though. Be my guest. Please. :)

turbostang

08-11-2009, 01:03 PM

Don, if you are ever on my side of town in the evenings - I can probably arrange for a free lesson or two.

Fossil Creek.

mikecobra95

08-11-2009, 01:33 PM

Don, if you are ever on my side of town in the evenings - I can probably arrange for a free lesson or two.

Fossil Creek.

Don't forget about Me! I live right by Fossil Creek:) I'm a midhandicapper but can always use some more help to get better:)

turbostang

08-11-2009, 01:36 PM

Don't forget about Me! I live right by Fossil Creek:) I'm a midhandicapper but can always use some more help to get better:)

As long as you can handle a 16 year old telling you how to hit a ball! ;)

mikecobra95

08-11-2009, 01:40 PM

As long as you can handle a 16 year old telling you how to hit a ball! ;)

I could care less who it is honestly. I just need some tips, last time I tried to make major swing changes I couldn't hit a golf ball right for months. So I am making small minor changes here and there and my game has gotten a ton better. I hit the range up there sometimes and always see the same group of kids hitting, I bet I know the kid you're talking about.

turbostang

08-11-2009, 01:49 PM

I could care less who it is honestly. I just need some tips, last time I tried to make major swing changes I couldn't hit a golf ball right for months. So I am making small minor changes here and there and my game has gotten a ton better. I hit the range up there sometimes and always see the same group of kids hitting, I bet I know the kid you're talking about.

I am fairly certain you do, if you've seen me around - you know what he looks like, he looks a LOT like me, just darker. lol.

he is there on the range nearly every day, or on the putting green.