2007 Corvette Z51 vs 2004 Cobra

[davbrucas]

Vette only has exhaust. Cobra has pulley, tune, CAI and catback. Driver's race?

[Badass2000gt]

vette will win by at least a car.

[STRONGNUFF]

I would say Cobra by a car, but then again alot does depend on the driver.

[Snoman_23]

what kind of exhaust on the c6? long tubes mid pipe and cat back, or just cat back?

[terminator03]

cobra should win

[MrSS]

Id say the vette would be marginally faster with equal drivers.

[5.0_CJ]

give me a break, the vette will easily win. A stock _C5_ is quicker than an 03 Cobra, I tested that on at least 5 different friends cobras.

[terminator03]

give me a break, the vette will easily win. A stock _C5_ is quicker than an 03 Cobra, I tested that on at least 5 different friends cobras.

I have out ran every c5 and c6 vette that i have raced with my car its just a pulley intake and exhaust car. I have never seen a stock c5 or c6 vette trap 95 in the 1/8th mile

[OMEGA DOOM]

I have out ran every c5 and c6 vette that i have raced with my car its just a pulley intake and exhaust car. I have never seen a stock c5 or c6 vette trap 95 in the 1/8th milewell that would mean your car is nowhere near stock? but remember the cobra has what.... about 600-700 lbs of weight over the vette???

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

I have to agree with terminator 03. My vert pullied cobra out ran c5's and c6's maybe they couldn't drive though? Mine made 460/460 to the wheels.

[terminator03]

well that would mean your car is nowhere near stock? but remember the cobra has what.... about 600-700 lbs of weight over the vette???

It has the same mods that the original posters car has my car does have some weight reduction mods so it isnt 600-700lbs heavier than a vette

[jw33]

drivers race, but my money would be on the C6 as long as it's just a drag race....

[5.0_CJ]

It has the same mods that the original posters car has my car does have some weight reduction mods so it isnt 600-700lbs heavier than a vette

here we go again. "blahblahblah - my car" - "but blahblah mycar" - "blahbah i'll race you."

[terminator03]

here we go again. "blahblahblah - my car" - "but blahblah mycar" - "blahbah i'll race you."

Well your the one saying a stock c5 is faster than a bolt on 03 cobra which its not.

[Badass2000gt]

Well your the one saying a stock c5 is faster than a bolt on 03 cobra which its not.

No we are saying a c6 is faster then a bolt on 03 cobra. Just face it your car is slow.

[terminator03]

No we are saying a c6 is faster then a bolt on 03 cobra. Just face it your car is slow.

A stock _C5_ is quicker than an 03 Cobra
I know my car is slow but its faster than a stock c5 and c6 vette

[Badass2000gt]

I know my car is slow but its faster than a stock c5 and c6 vette

maybe a stock c5 but I don't think an bolt on 03 cobra is faster then an stock c6.

[White_lightning]

when you say exhaust.. do you mean catback? or headers/!cats/catback. there is a big difference. with an ls2 you are talking a 350ish rwhp car with just a catback or up to 400 or so rwhp with full exhaust..

[terminator03]

maybe a stock c5 but I don't think an bolt on 03 cobra is faster then an stock c6.

Well mine managed to beat 2 ls2 c6s one from around a 40 punch and the other from a 20 and most of the ones i see running at the track run mid to low 8s in the 1/8th at anywhere from 85-89mph

[White_lightning]

Well mine managed to beat 2 ls2 c6s one from around a 40 punch and the other from a 20 and most of the ones i see running at the track run mid to low 8s in the 1/8th at anywhere from 85-89mph

what mods rwhp do you have now?
i have a C6..with a k&N air intake. stock otherwise.

[FoxBodyMike]

Well mine managed to beat 2 ls2 c6s one from around a 40 punch and the other from a 20 and most of the ones i see running at the track run mid to low 8s in the 1/8th at anywhere from 85-89mph

Thats what my 88 gt ran with slicks, 65mm TB, CAI, 3:73s, and a 75 shot. Haha.. 8.53 at 88.. Never knew it was, as fast as, or faster then a vette..

[terminator03]

what mods rwhp do you have now?
i have a C6..with a k&N air intake. stock otherwise.

pulley, intake, longtubes, full exhaust, tubular k member, coil overs, big and littles rear seat delete thats about it well a lfp heat exchanger.

[White_lightning]

Thats what my 88 gt ran with slicks, 65mm TB, CAI, 3:73s, and a 75 shot. Haha.. 8.53 at 88.. Never knew it was, as fast as, or faster then a vette..

lol.. you are also faster then most of the stock 03/04 cobrs out there.. lol

[White_lightning]

pulley, intake, longtubes, full exhaust, tubular k member, coil overs, big and littles rear seat delete thats about it well a lfp heat exchanger.

what does that relate to power wise?
i would love to see how i stack up to a full bolt on cobra. im pretty sure i would lose.. but i wouldnt mind trying.

[terminator03]

lol.. you are also faster then most of the stock 03/04 cobrs out there.. lol

lol that is true most of the ones i see with bolt ons run mid low 8s

[kc50lx]

id bet on the c6. even though the cobra is probably making decent power it still weighs a lot. if the c6 has a full exhaust, then i would say without a doubt the c6.

[terminator03]

what does that relate to power wise?
i would love to see how i stack up to a full bolt on cobra. im pretty sure i would lose.. but i wouldnt mind trying.

I just put the longtubes on I have to take it to get retuned im also putting a smaller pulley on it but before the headers it had about 460hp

[White_lightning]

I just put the longtubes on I have to take it to get retuned im also putting a smaller pulley on it but before the headers it had about 460hp

heh. so close to 500ish? i would glady line up in mexico to see how a pretty much stock c6 does against a full bolt on cobra.

[Fern]

heh. so close to 500ish? i would glady line up in mexico to see how a pretty much stock c6 does against a full bolt on cobra.

As would I. :):)

[terminator03]

heh. so close to 500ish? i would glady line up in mexico to see how a pretty much stock c6 does against a full bolt on cobra.

After i get i new tune it will be ready to race again

[White_lightning]

After i get i new tune it will be ready to race again

lmk when you are ready and we can roll out..
I have a K&N and a shifter.

[terminator03]

lmk when you are ready and we can roll out..
I have a K&N and a shifter.

Ok it will be here at around the end of july or so ill shoot you a pm when its ready

[Super Coupe]

C6 will get it's ass handed to him! Terminator03 and my cousin on here both trap 95mph in the 1/8th. My cousins is 2.76 pulley cat back air filter and hpp tune 473rwhp. Bring a stock c6 on and I will smoke it in my car. Here's my cousins car vs my car. I don't think a stock c6 would be able to hang.

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[JKD]

Close race at the track, from a roll the Cobra gets it's ass handed to him.

[terminator03]

Close race at the track, from a roll the Cobra gets it's ass handed to him.

Here is a pulley intake exhaust vert cobra beating a stock 08 c6 which is the ls3 from a roll pretty easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoQVqMOJIus

[Badass2000gt]

Here is a pulley intake exhaust vert cobra beating a stock 08 c6 which is the ls3 from a roll pretty easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoQVqMOJIus

vette didn't look like he was trying. Plus the cobra got 1/2 car length lead from the beginning.

[terminator03]

vette didn't look like he was trying. Plus the cobra got 1/2 car length lead from the beginning.

the cobra kept pulling away though if the vette was actually faster it would have started catching him

[Badass2000gt]

vette>03-04 cobra.

[SLOW 77]

I had an 06 Z51 and I got beat by two different Cobra's. Don't have a clue what they had done but they would give me a slow pull. My car had a catback and a Vararam on it, best pass was a 12.30 @ 115.8.

An 08 Z51 with an LS3 should be a lot closer to some of the Cobra's.

[White_lightning]

i dont have any ambitions of winning:) i just want to run...

[terminator03]

i dont have any ambitions of winning:) i just want to run...

Hell i will probably end up losing to you but i dont care racing is racing its always fun.

[White_lightning]

Hell i will probably end up losing to you but i dont care racing is racing its always fun.
i dont anticipate you losing based on those videos.. since your car is alot lighter then the vert.. and im pretty much the same power level as that c6

[terminator03]

i dont anticipate you losing based on those videos.. since your car is alot lighter then the vert.. and im pretty much the same power level as that c6

Well it will still be fun. My car weighed 3420lbs with almost a full tank of gas so its still pretty heavy.

[FWT03Term]

I have an 08' C6 and sold an 03' Cobra earlier this year. Equal drivers the Cobra wins, period. The rest of these "opinions" are just nonsense. When my Cobra was just pullied, it would beat my C6 easy. Only way the vette could win is from a relatively high speed roll

[White_lightning]

Well it will still be fun. My car weighed 3420lbs with almost a full tank of gas so its still pretty heavy.

lol. mines 3250 DRY. and im 300lbs. so gas+car+me = 3700ish.. so you have me on weight and hp.. yeah:) you get a passanger with a camera:)

[White_lightning]

I have an 08' C6 and sold an 03' Cobra earlier this year. Equal drivers the Cobra wins, period. The rest of these "opinions" are just nonsense. When my Cobra was just pullied, it would beat my C6 easy. Only way the vette could win is from a relatively high speed roll

what do you consider high speed? im talking a 50mph roll.

[terminator03]

I have an 08' C6 and sold an 03' Cobra earlier this year. Equal drivers the Cobra wins, period. The rest of these "opinions" are just nonsense. When my Cobra was just pullied, it would beat my C6 easy. Only way the vette could win is from a relatively high speed roll

Yeah 40 punch is the highest i go normally i dont really have a roll racing car anymore

[Super Coupe]

what do you consider high speed? im talking a 50mph roll.

Go from a dig. Roll racing is gay.

[White_lightning]

Yeah 40 punch is the highest i go normally i dont really have a highway racing car

heh. 50 is the lowest i can go.. my 1st gear is useless and 40 in 2nd is 3000 rpm..

[terminator03]

heh. 50 is the lowest i can go.. my 1st gear is useless and 40 in 2nd is 3000 rpm..

well we can go from a dig then :firedevil:

[Badass2000gt]

Here you go cobra lovers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2u4VIqPank
yeah a cobra is faster then a vette.:crackhead:

[White_lightning]

Go from a dig. Roll racing is gay.

to each his own. if i was planning to run from a stop i wouldnt come out on street tires.. i would be on ET drags.. since i have no desire to toast my clutch.. 50 it is.

[terminator03]

to each his own. if i was planning to run from a stop i wouldnt come out on street tires.. i would be on ET drags.. since i have no desire to toast my clutch.. 50 it is.

Get some drag radials thats what i run

[White_lightning]

Get some drag radials thats what i run

have no desire to spend any money on rear tires since im planning on going wider wheels in the near future.. :) im sure i can find a cobra on here who will play from 50:)
you have a sizeable rwhp advantange and even weight on me. the least you can do is give me a 50 roll so i can see your tail lights.

[terminator03]

have no desire to spend any money on rear tires since im planning on going wider wheels in the near future.. :) im sure i can find a cobra on here who will play from 50:)
you have a sizeable rwhp advantange and even weight on me. the least you can do is give me a 50 roll so i can see your tail lights.

Ill give you a 50 roll if thats what you want but i will shut down around 130 cause i dont feel safe going much faster than that on front runners in mexico

[White_lightning]

Ill give you a 50 roll if thats what you want but i will shut down around 130 cause i dont feel safe going much faster than that on front runners in mexico

im fine with that..

[terminator03]

im fine with that..

ok sounds good then

[Super Coupe]

to each his own. if i was planning to run from a stop i wouldnt come out on street tires.. i would be on ET drags.. since i have no desire to toast my clutch.. 50 it is.

You won't toast your clutch racing from a dig in a stock car unless you can't drive.

[White_lightning]

You won't toast your clutch racing from a dig in a stock car unless you can't drive.

i have drag raced 5 times in my life.. so.. its very clear i have NO seat time launching my car from a dead stop and im not willing to bother trying because (1) my worn back tires wont hold it
(2) im not going to put on slicks or DRs for one race..

[White_lightning]

You won't toast your clutch racing from a dig in a stock car unless you can't drive.


also. "launching" and driving are mutually exlusive. i know plenty of people who can launch like a bat out of hell and then have no idea what to do with their left left and right hand..
i dont drag race.. so my launch = fail.. but my shifting is decent.. there are a few ppl on here who will vouch for that.

[Super Coupe]

also. "launching" and driving are mutually exlusive. i know plenty of people who can launch like a bat out of hell and then have no idea what to do with their left left and right hand..
i dont drag race.. so my launch = fail.. but my shifting is decent.. there are a few ppl on here who will vouch for that.

That's why you get decent tires. Launching isn't rocket science. Racing is way more exciting from a dig. You should try it.

[jw33]

...plus you used to own a supra....;)

[Super Coupe]

i have drag raced 5 times in my life.. so.. its very clear i have NO seat time launching my car from a dead stop and im not willing to bother trying because (1) my worn back tires wont hold it
(2) im not going to put on slicks or DRs for one race..

You can daily drive on drag radials just fine and then whenever you want to race someone you take them from a dig.

[Super Coupe]

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[davbrucas]

Vette only has catback. I think the cobra should win by 2 cars at the track and about a car or so from a roll. Just my guess. My brother has the vette and the cobra is mine. My KB and extras go on in a few weeks however...

[Turbo5.4]

i would say the vette.... but it will be a drivers race...

[White_lightning]

That's why you get decent tires. Launching isn't rocket science. Racing is way more exciting from a dig. You should try it.

i had an AWD talon that i raced from a dig.. really not all that exciting..0-90 i was laying waste to mustangs making 100-200 hp more then me and then getting freight trained..
i think i will stick to the odd spirited driving rather then setting up my car for drag racing.. 90% of the people i know who break their cars break them from a stop or at the track.

[Super Coupe]

i had an AWD talon that i raced from a dig.. really not all that exciting..0-90 i was laying waste to mustangs making 100-200 hp more then me and then getting freight trained..
i think i will stick to the odd spirited driving rather then setting up my car for drag racing.. 90% of the people i know who break their cars break them from a stop or at the track.

How is putting drag radials on a car setting it up for drag racing? You aren't going to hurt it. Powershifting into 4th gear is harder on the clutch then taking off on drag radials.

[White_lightning]

How is putting drag radials on a car setting it up for drag racing? You aren't going to hurt it. Powershifting into 4th gear is harder on the clutch then taking off on drag radials.

you are missing my point. i have NO desire to put drag radials on my car.. none at all.. i want to get more then 3000 miles out of a set of tires.

secondly. i have never powershifted, nor needed to powershift.. i would rather keep my tranny together.. IMO since you arent one who is going to be running me dont bother commenting any more

[Super Coupe]

you are missing my point. i have NO desire to put drag radials on my car.. none at all.. i want to get more then 3000 miles out of a set of tires.

secondly. i have never powershifted, nor needed to powershift.. i would rather keep my tranny together.. IMO since you arent one who is going to be running me.. shut up.

I will come to. Me and terminator run the same speeds but my car is a little quicker from a dig. I'm not racing a 50mph roll though. That's 3rd gear for my car. WEAK!

[White_lightning]

I will come to. Me and terminator run the same speeds but my car is a little quicker from a dig. I'm not racing a 50mph roll though. That's 3rd gear for my car. WEAK!

then you wont be racing me.. i have no intention of going below 50 against cars i know are lighter and make more power then me.

[Super Coupe]

then you wont be racing me.. i have no intention of going below 50 against cars i know are lighter and make more power then me.

Dude I make 340 hp.I told you me and terminator run the same speeds so what is the difference between me and him other than when he gets his retuned it will have a smaller pulley and be faster.

[White_lightning]

Dude I make 340 hp.I told you me and terminator run the same speeds so what is the difference between me and him other than when he gets his retuned it will have a smaller pulley and be faster.

he will go from 50.. you wont.. there you go.

[White_lightning]

anyway. this is all 100% hypothetical. and all racing will be done on a dyno... since any street racing is illegal....

[Super Coupe]

he will go from 50.. you wont.. there you go.

You have to give and take a little. I have a fox body with stock everything that falls on its face on the big end because it does not cut the air well and has 160cfm flowing heads that fall flat on their face at 5k rpms. I will give you the hit from a 20 punch.

[White_lightning]

You have to give and take a little. I have a fox body with stock everything that falls on its face on the big end because it does not cut the air well and has 160cfm flowing heads that fall flat on their face at 5k rpms. I will give you the hit from a 20 punch.

do i need to spell it out to you or draw you a picture?? what part of " not below 50" was i unclear about?

[Super Coupe]

do i need to spell it out to you or draw you a picture?? what part of " not below 50" was i unclear about?

Are you telling me your car spins the tires from a second gear roll? Do you have a problem with losing. Does each race cost you lots of money so you have to make sure everything is your way to get the easy victory? Dude it's just racing. How about we go from a low roll then I give you your 50mph roll.

[White_lightning]

Are you telling me your car spins the tires from a second gear roll?

not at all.. thats why i want to go from 50.. 50 2nd gear for me.

[Super Coupe]

not at all.. thats why i want to go from 50.. 50 2nd gear for me.

I understand 50 is second gear for you. What is wrong with 20 and second gear? That's second gear for me too. It won't spin the tires so what is the reason you will not race from that speed.

[White_lightning]

I understand 50 is second gear for you. What is wrong with 20 and second gear? That's second gear for me too. It won't spin the tires so what is the reason you will not race from that speed.


lol

you are funny..
20 in second is just above IDLE
lol
how about.. im going to race from 50.. if you dont like that no one is forcing you to race.. as a matter of fact i dont remember inviting you. Clearly this was some fun between me and the cobra.

[Saladbar]

well we can go from a dig then :firedevil:

Did someone say race from a dig? I'm your huckleberry :)

[Super Coupe]

lol

you are funny..
20 in second is just above IDLE
lol
how about.. im going to race from 50.. if you dont like that no one is forcing you to race.. as a matter of fact i dont remember inviting you. Clearly this was some fun between me and the cobra.

Well we are good buds and I want in on the racing but a 50mph punch is just to high for my car. I have tried 50mph roll with terminator. The only reason I even raced him then was because he paid my gas and let me use his nitrous bottle lol. Lets do 20 and then we can do 50.

[Super Coupe]

Did someone say race from a dig? I'm your huckleberry :)

Bring it. I have been beaten by you once but this time I have a little meat under the car.

[White_lightning]

Well we are good buds and I want in on the racing but a 50mph punch is just to high for my car. I have tried 50mph roll with terminator. The only reason I even raced him then was because he paid my gas and let me use his nitrous bottle lol. Lets do 20 and then we can do 50.

sure.. 20-150..i have ZERO traction from 20.. how many times do i have to say the same thing...



maybe you should go back and read this thread from the start.

the termy and i will go from 50... im sure he will pull me but i want to try anyway.

[Super Coupe]

sure.. 20-150..i have ZERO traction from 20.. how many times do i have to say the same thing...



maybe you should go back and read this thread from the start.

the termy and i will go from 50... im sure he will pull me but i want to try anyway.

Dude you are killing me here. Do you keep track on how many wins/losses you have and only race where you have the full advantage? Give me a break. We aren't racing for money. It is for fun! My car spins a hell of a lot more than your car but you don't see my racing from 50.

[FoxBodyMike]

Well we are good buds and I want in on the racing but a 50mph punch is just to high for my car. I have tried 50mph roll with terminator. The only reason I even raced him then was because he paid my gas and let me use his nitrous bottle lol. Lets do 20 and then we can do 50.

settle with 30.

nothing better then a rolling 30, if you cant race out of a dig.

[White_lightning]

Dude you are killing me here. Do you keep track on how many wins/losses you have and only race where you have the full advantage? Give me a break. We aren't racing for money. It is for fun! My car spins a hell of a lot more than your car but you don't see my racing from 50.

do i keep track? no..
do i plan to race from below 50? no..
is it for fun? Sure.. my fun run is at 50.. if you dont like it.. you dont have to come. like i said.. i dont remember asking for fox bodies to race..

[FoxBodyMike]

Bring it. I have been beaten by you once but this time I have a little meat under the car.

me too, but its deer meat :disappointed:

[STROKD]

maybe a stock c5 but I don't think an bolt on 03 cobra is faster then an stock c6.

LMAO, you dont know much about cars do you...

Ill race any stock C6 (LS2) in Dallas for any sum of cash you want to front, Ill even tow my car to Dallas to make the cash, you can help front my move back to Dallas for me... dead stop, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc, wont matter, it'll get the doors blown off it.

I have the same mods as listed plus an X pipe and a REAL good tune up from Manny. Stock C6 will get fucken walked... The thread was stating a LS2, but a LS3 wouldn't matter either.

There are a LOT of different ways to mod a 03 Cobra, but there is no way a proper setup Terminator loses to a stock C6. The catback does jack shit for one power wise.

[Super Coupe]

Screw it. I will run you from a 50 punch.

[White_lightning]

Screw it. I will run you from a 50 punch.

if you run with terminator03 you should walk me either way..

[Super Coupe]

if you run with terminator03 you should walk me either way..

From all the post every body says that you should win.

[White_lightning]

From all the post every body says that you should win.

lol. yes but im talking about reality.. terminator weighs the same/a little less then me.. and makes almost 100 rwhp more then me.. in what world would i pull him?

[Super Coupe]

lol. yes but im talking about reality.. terminator weighs the same/a little less then me.. and makes almost 100 rwhp more then me.. in what world would i pull him?

He makes 100 more hp than me too but I still run with him.

[White_lightning]

He makes 100 more hp than me too but I still run with him.

on or off the hose?

[STROKD]

Close race at the track, from a roll the Cobra gets it's ass handed to him.

dude, are you serious? He said STOCK LS2 car... NO DAMN way. this is a great thread, didn't know that many dumb people in Dallas these days.

[Super Coupe]

on or off the hose?

On. It only makes 340hp on the hose.

[grove rat]

why is it always modded cobra vs stock C5/6 vette???





:006: just giving the pot a stir

[White_lightning]

On. It only makes 340hp on the hose.

something sounds fishy:)

either way... im dont to run and lose to terminator 03.

[Badass2000gt]

why is it always modded cobra vs stock C5/6 vette???





:006: just giving the pot a stir

Cause all these cobra owners know they will get walked on.

[Badass2000gt]

LMAO, you dont know much about cars do you...

Ill race any stock C6 (LS2) in Dallas for any sum of cash you want to front, Ill even tow my car to Dallas to make the cash, you can help front my move back to Dallas for me... dead stop, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc, wont matter, it'll get the doors blown off it.

I have the same mods as listed plus an X pipe and a REAL good tune up from Manny. Stock C6 will get fucken walked... The thread was stating a LS2, but a LS3 wouldn't matter either.

There are a LOT of different ways to mod a 03 Cobra, but there is no way a proper setup Terminator loses to a stock C6. The catback does jack shit for one power wise.

And you make a million dollars and have a 12 inch dick too. blah blah blah blah

[STROKD]

why is it always modded cobra vs stock C5/6 vette???
:006: just giving the pot a stir

Well, why not ask the original poster?:saroll:

[STROKD]

And you make a million dollars and have a 12 inch dick too. blah blah blah blah

No, Im jobless and not hung like Ron Jeremy. I am not speaking dilusional, that was you with the whole C6 being faster than a pullied Terminator comments.:crackhead:

No fairy tale comments were said on my end, just the facts Jack.:)

[Badass2000gt]

No, Im jobless and not hung like Ron Jeremy. I am not speaking dilusional, that was you with the whole C6 being faster than a pullied Terminator comments.:crackhead:

No fairy tale comments were said on my end, just the facts Jack.:)

Here you go man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7kiqhgiJOo

[STROKD]

Here you go man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7kiqhgiJOo

What about it? What "bolt ons" does that Cobra have? Is that an 07 as the OP asked about? Do you know there is a large difference in a 07 and 08 Vette?

Thanks for making my point about you not knowing shit about cars. You did my work for me!

Again, I dont care what is shown on videos or who has done what in other people's cars. Im talking about MY car against any stock LS2 C6 you can find me. I was serious about racing for money, I guess you didn't think your words were worth giving me cash over.:confused2:

Just be a little more careful with spouting off your nonsense about the holy Vette comments next time unless your checkbook is ready to back it up.:owned2:

[Badass2000gt]

What about it? What "bolt ons" does that Cobra have? Is that an 07 as the OP asked about? Do you know there is a large difference in a 07 and 08 Vette?

Thanks for making my point about you not knowing shit about cars. You did my work for me!

Again, I dont care what is shown on videos or who has done what in other people's cars. Im talking about MY car against any stock LS2 C6 you can find me. I was serious about racing for money, I guess you didn't think your words were worth giving me cash over.:confused2:

Just be a little more careful with spouting off your nonsense about the holy Vette comments next time unless your checkbook is ready to back it up.:owned2:

your the big shot that said you will take on an ls3 vette. I know they make more power. 430 to be exact. If I knew someone I can trust at driving then yes I would back that person. But until then I vette is faster and a better overall car then the 03 cobra. And I only bet people who have the money. I will feel really guilty taking money away from someone who doesn't have a job.

[Saladbar]

Bring it. I have been beaten by you once but this time I have a little meat under the car.

Sounds good. Mexico or a prepped track?

[STROKD]

your the big shot that said you will take on an ls3 vette. I know they make more power. 430 to be exact. If I knew someone I can trust at driving then yes I would back that person. But until then I vette is faster and a better overall car then the 03 cobra. And I only bet people who have the money. I will feel really guilty taking money away from someone who doesn't have a job.

I have about 15 grand in the bank, Im not worried about it, but I appreciate the concern about not taking my money.

Yes a stock LS3 wouldn't matter either. My car is faster than the guy posting in this thread, so again, I wouldnt be worried about losing to one... Id be a good race for a stock LS7, just so you can understand...

Not a big shot by any means man. Yes Vettes are BETTER cars, I never said that they werent, I just said they were slower without mods.:disappointed: I get defensive when people slander my car, same as anyone would. You were wrong and I called you on it, not the last time it happens I bet. Just so you know, my car traps 98 in the 1/8th mile... That was with a bad clutch. I think itll get near 100 when it cools down.:tounge-in-cheek:

[Badass2000gt]

I have about 15 grand in the bank, Im not worried about it, but I appreciate the concern about not taking my money.

Yes a stock LS3 wouldn't matter either. My car is faster than the guy posting in this thread, so again, I wouldnt be worried about losing to one... Id be a good race for a stock LS7, just so you can understand...

Not a big shot by any means man. Yes Vettes are BETTER cars, I never said that they werent, I just said they were slower without mods.:disappointed: I get defensive when people slander my car, same as anyone would. You were wrong and I called you on it, not the last time it happens I bet. Just so you know, my car traps 98 in the 1/8th mile... That was with a bad clutch. I think itll get near 100 when it cools down.:tounge-in-cheek:

See I don't even own a vette, I just can't stand the people that have modded 03-04 cobras talk shit about how they can beat a STOCK vette. So fucking what. I mean you have a supercharger where a vette is N/A. I don't know its just seems stupid how some spent 2k on their cobras and they think they are the shits cause they beat a stock vette.

[Turbo5.4]

See I don't even own a vette, I just can't stand the people that have modded 03-04 cobras talk shit about how they can beat a STOCK vette. So fucking what. I mean you have a supercharger where a vette is N/A. I don't know its just seems stupid how some spent 2k on their cobras and they think they are the shits cause they beat a stock vette.

you mean how people buy a new c6 for 40k and think they are god and get walked by a 20k 03/04 cobra???

i mean where is the sense in that???

a vette has WAY MORE displacement then a cobra... use your head guy....

my math... 6.2L vs 4.6 with a blower the cobra shouldnt be at the same displacement.. now with a whipple 2.2 or something.. that vette will be owned.. and math wise were close to the same displacement... but you will have a excuse why it isnt fair...

[STROKD]

See I don't even own a vette, I just can't stand the people that have modded 03-04 cobras talk shit about how they can beat a STOCK vette. So fucking what. I mean you have a supercharger where a vette is N/A. I don't know its just seems stupid how some spent 2k on their cobras and they think they are the shits cause they beat a stock vette.

I hear ya, I never said otherwise. The original poster asked about a car nearly identical to mine and a exhaust 07 C6. Im just telling you with MY car, it wouldn't be close. With other's Cobras, maybe the Vette would win... who knows, I was just trying to prove a point and let you know you were mis-informed.:disappointed:

Btw as I said I run near 100 in the 1/8th... it'd take a tuned GOOD running cammed and exhaust LS3 car to run near 100 mph in the 1/8th as well... That costs more than the "2K on their cobras" you are talking about from the Cobra group.

"If you don't know, now ya know..." (Notorious BIG)

[Badass2000gt]

you mean how people buy a new c6 for 40k and think they are god and get walked by a 20k 03/04 cobra???

i mean where is the sense in that???

a vette has WAY MORE displacement then a cobra... use your head guy....

Wow here we go with the displacement bullshit. The cobra comes with a supercharger. And a stock cobra will not walk a c6 vette.

[Turbo5.4]

Wow here we go with the displacement bullshit. The cobra comes with a supercharger. And a stock cobra will not walk a c6 vette.

you cried about us having a blower and what not and your NA blah blah blah.. weigh less also...

we have a blower and are "fatter" and still walk yall with money in our pockets...

[Badass2000gt]

I hear ya, I never said otherwise. The original poster asked about a car nearly identical to mine and a exhaust 07 C6. Im just telling you with MY car, it wouldn't be close. With other's Cobras, maybe the Vette would win... who knows, I was just trying to prove a point and let you know you were mis-informed.:disappointed:

Btw as I said I run near 100 in the 1/8th... it'd take a tuned GOOD running cammed and exhaust LS3 car to run near 100 mph in the 1/8th as well... That costs more than the "2K on their cobras" you are talking about from the Cobra group.

"If you don't know, now ya know..." (Notorious BIG)

Man I've been out of the racing at the track world for a while so I don't know what anything will run as far time and mph. I just see the stuff on the street. But it sounds like you have a strong cobra running 100 mph in the 1/8th. What is that low 6's?

[kingjoey]

Here you go man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7kiqhgiJOo


The guy in that vid can't shift.

This is the same vert Cobra as in the other video vs a H/C/I C6 and a SRT4

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[Badass2000gt]

you cried about us having a blower and what not and your NA blah blah blah.. weigh less also...

we have a blower and are "fatter" and still walk yall with money in our pockets...

Not stock to stock, the cobra will not beat the vette in the 1/8th or 1/4 mile.

[STROKD]

Man I've been out of the racing at the track world for a while so I don't know what anything will run as far time and mph. I just see the stuff on the street. But it sounds like you have a strong cobra running 100 mph in the 1/8th. What is that low 6's?

high 7s with 2.0 60 foots on street tires.

100 mph trap should be right around a 6.9-7.1 which is a high ten/low 11 second car with some traction. Again Im not claiming to have run said times because my car broke last time at the track and has only run high 7s and 12 flats, but it does run a wicked trap speed which is what is most important on the street from a roll...:) ET would be there with some tires.

[Turbo5.4]

Not stock to stock, the cobra will not beat the vette in the 1/8th or 1/4 mile.

the question isnt stock to stock how hard is that to understand??? and also... you spend 40k and i spend 20k and have a vehilde just as fast for 20k less... okay 18k cause i gotta do 2k in mods so i can walk you nasty.. or do a 3.4 and what not and kill 99% of the street vettes...

[Super Coupe]

something sounds fishy:)

either way... im dont to run and lose to terminator 03.

There is nothing fishy about my car. That's what it makes. It still has 19 lb injectors and a dry kit so it can't really make any more power unless I upgrade my fuel.

[Super Coupe]

Sounds good. Mexico or a prepped track?

Either one.

[Super Coupe]

high 7s with 2.0 60 foots on street tires.

100 mph trap should be right around a 6.9-7.1 which is a high ten/low 11 second car with some traction. Again Im not claiming to have run said times because my car broke last time at the track and has only run high 7s and 12 flats, but it does run a wicked trap speed which is what is most important on the street from a roll...:) ET would be there with some tires.

My cousin has an orange cobra like yours. He traps 94ish in the 1/8th and walked 400rwhp long tubed and cammed c5 the other weekend pretty easy. I trap about the same and I am pretty sure I would kill one but they are all pussies and race from rolls.

[Badass2000gt]

the question isnt stock to stock how hard is that to understand??? and also... you spend 40k and i spend 20k and have a vehilde just as fast for 20k less... okay 18k cause i gotta do 2k in mods so i can walk you nasty.. or do a 3.4 and what not and kill 99% of the street vettes...

Yeah but I would have a vette and you would have a ford. So what is your point again. As most people say the cobra is not even in the vettes league. So go enjoy your 20k car. I could careless. And also in 5 years I could still sell the vette for 30-35k where as the cobra maybe 10k.

[Super Coupe]

Yeah but I would have a vette and you would have a ford. So what is your point again. As most people say the cobra is not even in the vettes league. So go enjoy your 20k car. I could careless. And also in 5 years I could still sell the vette for 30-35k where as the cobra maybe 10k.

Are you joking me? Nice cobras are selling for 25k still. 5 years from now you won't be able to get a nice one for 10k. Look at the 93 cobras. Nice ones are still 10k and up. You could get a ragged one though.

[STROKD]

My cousin has an orange cobra like yours. He traps 94ish in the 1/8th and walked 400rwhp long tubed and cammed c5 the other weekend pretty easy. I trap about the same and I am pretty sure I would kill one but they are all pussies and race from rolls.

Maybe just the orange Cobras can beat Corvettes.:confused2::tounge-in-cheek:

[Badass2000gt]

Are you joking me? Nice cobras are selling for 25k still. 5 years from now you won't be able to get a nice one for 10k. Look at the 93 cobras. Nice ones are still 10k and up. You could get a ragged one though.

Well the way that guy was talking he will ragged the shit out of his cobra. So yeah maybe 10k.

[Super Coupe]

Bolt on cobra with a little work done to the stock blower. It would take a heavily modded vette to run with this car.

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[5.0_CJ]

My cousin has an orange cobra like yours. He traps 94ish in the 1/8th and walked 400rwhp long tubed and cammed c5 the other weekend pretty easy. I trap about the same and I am pretty sure I would kill one but they are all pussies and race from rolls.

a cammed vette making 400rwhp is laughably terrible.

[Badass2000gt]

Bolt on cobra with a little work done to the stock blower. It would take a heavily modded vette to run with this car.

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Dude it has a 125 shot of nitrous too. Damn you cobras guys are funny as shit.

[STROKD]

Yeah but I would have a vette and you would have a ford. So what is your point again. As most people say the cobra is not even in the vettes league. So go enjoy your 20k car. I could careless. And also in 5 years I could still sell the vette for 30-35k where as the cobra maybe 10k.

lmfao, 2004 Z06 Vette vs 2004 Cobra, my car cost about 20K less new, and is worth the same if not more right now... You are again mis-informed. Thats 10K depreciation for the Cobra and about 30K depreciation for the Vette (if you can even get that!) I dunno a 04 Z is worth mid 20s in todays market or not, whereas a nice 04 Cobra is...

Compare a Cobra to a regular C5, and its a joke... The Z holds its value somewhat because people like to buy em to race them. The regular C5 isn't worth shit.(high teens)

[Super Coupe]

Dude it has a 125 shot of nitrous too. Damn you cobras guys are funny as shit.

You are truly an idiot. He runs it blower only and doesn't spray it until the last run. 134 with the stock blower? That is pretty impressive.

[Badass2000gt]

lmfao, 2004 Z06 Vette vs 2004 Cobra, my car cost about 20K less new, and is worth the same if not more right now... You are again mis-informed. Thats 10K depreciation for the Cobra and about 30K depreciation for the Vette (if you can even get that!) I dunno a 04 Z is worth mid 20s in todays market or not, whereas a nice 04 Cobra is...

Compare a Cobra to a regular C5, and its a joke... The Z holds its value somewhat because people like to buy em to race them. The regular C5 isn't worth shit.(high teens)

Ok maybe you are tired and can't read the other post. He is talking about a 40k vette which is a new to his 20k 03 cobra used. No where did I said anything about an 04 Z06.

[Super Coupe]

a cammed vette making 400rwhp is laughably terrible.

It's a regular c5 vette and it still makes more hp than a c6 vette and got walked hard.

[STROKD]

a cammed vette making 400rwhp is laughably terrible.

thats about what a C5 does unless it has heads and an uber cam... 450-460rw with Trick Flow heads and a medium sized cam is what TEA told me to expect for the wife's C5. Thats actually pretty good. There are a few hitting 500 with some large lumpy cams with those heads, and that is real impressive to me on a stock block.

[Badass2000gt]

You are truly an idiot. He runs it blower only and doesn't spray it until the last run.

Well I didn't even watched the video cause on the screen it shows stage V ported eaton W/125 shot 6 speed Irs. So fuck you. Put a supercharger on a stock vette and see if a bolt on cobra will beat it. It's only fair, power adder vs power adder.

[5.0_CJ]

lmfao, 2004 Z06 Vette vs 2004 Cobra, my car cost about 20K less new, and is worth the same if not more right now... You are again mis-informed. Thats 10K depreciation for the Cobra and about 30K depreciation for the Vette (if you can even get that!) I dunno a 04 Z is worth mid 20s in todays market or not, whereas a nice 04 Cobra is...

Compare a Cobra to a regular C5, and its a joke... The Z holds its value somewhat because people like to buy em to race them. The regular C5 isn't worth shit.(high teens)

your 04 cobra is not worth the price of a 04 z06.

mustang - $21,825

http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=21&p=1&f=5014&m=1065&d=6036&y=2004&c=15&vi=53104&z=76015&da=-1&mi=30000

z06 - $27,600

http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=21&p=1&f=5014&m=1035&d=284&y=2004&c=15&vi=52890&z=76015&da=-1&mi=30000

And the vette is a much better vehicle hands down - handles better, looks better, high quality. No matter how you slice it, the mustang was meant to be a $16,000 V6 car for girls, a cobra just has a bunch of shit thrown on top, but the same build quality.

[JKD]

Why are you guys arguing over two slow cars? Who cares which one is faster stock? In this hobby, cars dont stay stock very long. Run what you brung and hope bring more then the other guy.

[Super Coupe]

Well I didn't even watched the video cause on the screen it shows stage V ported eaton W/125 shot 6 speed Irs. So fuck you.

Well if you would actually watch the video instead of running your mouth about stuff you have no clue about at all you might learn something.

[Super Coupe]

Why are you guys arguing over two slow cars? Who cares which one is faster stock? In this hobby, cars dont stay stock very long. Run what you brung and hope bring more then the other guy.

Shut your mouth you get outran by honda civics.

[Turbo5.4]

Well I didn't even watched the video cause on the screen it shows stage V ported eaton W/125 shot 6 speed Irs. So fuck you.


SOMEONE IS WRONG AND DOESNT LIKE IT EHH...

Its okay.. now go worship a bow tie ....

:owned2:

[Turbo5.4]

Why are you guys arguing over two slow cars? Who cares which one is faster stock? In this hobby, cars dont stay stock very long. Run what you brung and hope bring more then the other guy.

lol.. fo sho... for the money the cobra would walk all over the vette though.. just a fact...

[Badass2000gt]

SOMEONE IS WRONG AND DOESNT LIKE IT EHH...

Its okay.. now go worship a bow tie ....

:owned2:

Nope not wrong here. And I'm also a die hard ford guy. Just don't like shitheads like you talk shit about beating a stock vette. Big fucking deal. Put a supercharger on that stock vette and see what happens. Then talk shit.

[STROKD]

You are truly an idiot. He runs it blower only and doesn't spray it until the last run. 134 with the stock blower? That is pretty impressive.

That is a BAD Fucken car, makes me want to go to the garage and pat mine on the hood... making me not want a Vette anymore, it'd take 50-60 grand I dont have to go that fast in a vette vs about 2 in my car.:tounge-in-cheek:

[Super Coupe]

Nope not wrong here. And I'm also a die hard ford guy. Just don't like shitheads like you talk shit about beating a stock vette. Big fucking deal. Put a supercharger on that stock vette and see what happens. Then talk shit.

LMAO. The cobra would still own. If you upgrade blowers then might as well do it to the cobra too. Twin screw and 700rwhp ftw.

[5.0_CJ]

I had my C5 when the 03 cobras were hot shit, I raced a handful of them stock for stock and stomped the shit out of all of them. I ran a handful of 03 cobras with a full exhaust, and beat them as well. I've driven 03's before, and I've driven 03's with pulleys - I'm absolutely confident in my experience. I would also have to add in that from my experience, the shifter in a vette with it's rod operated transaxle is a little more difficult to master, and the majority of vette owners can't drive their car. I think the issue here with all the argument is we have a handful of cobra nut huggers that want to talk about pullied cobras with ported blowers, nitrous, everything stripped out until the car is a hollow shell, etc..etc.. giving them knowledge of those vehicles, which is just absurd and completely off topic.

[Turbo5.4]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-CHEVY-CORVETTE-BLK-BLK-6-SPD-HEADS-UP-BOSE-405HP_W0QQitemZ290328128255QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_C ars_Trucks?hash=item4398e7aaff&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-SVT-Cobra-Kenne-Bell-10th-Anniversary-Edition_W0QQitemZ280367679797QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Cars_Trucks?hash=item4147374935&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1

and thats a 03 with a shitload of aftermarket...

[Super Coupe]

That is a BAD Fucken car, makes me want to go to the garage and pat mine on the hood... making me not want a Vette anymore, it'd take 50-60 grand I dont have to go that fast in a vette vs about 2 in my car.:tounge-in-cheek:

That cobra makes 570rwhp on the race tune with the stock blower.:slomo:

[Badass2000gt]

I had my C5 when the 03 cobras were hot shit, I raced a handful of them stock for stock and stomped the shit out of all of them. I ran a handful of 03 cobras with a full exhaust, and beat them as well. I've driven 03's before, and I've driven 03's with pulleys - I'm absolutely confident in my experience. I think the issue here with all the argument is we have a handful of cobra nut huggers that want to talk about pullied cobras with ported blowers, nitrous, everything stripped out until the car is a hollow shell, etc..etc.. giving them knowledge of those vehicles, which is just absurd and completely off topic.

Thank you. Someone here is making sense.

[STROKD]

your 04 cobra is not worth the price of a 04 z06.

mustang - $21,825

http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=21&p=1&f=5014&m=1065&d=6036&y=2004&c=15&vi=53104&z=76015&da=-1&mi=30000

z06 - $27,600

http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.aspx?LI=1-21-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=21&p=1&f=5014&m=1035&d=284&y=2004&c=15&vi=52890&z=76015&da=-1&mi=30000

And the vette is a much better vehicle hands down - handles better, looks better, high quality. No matter how you slice it, the mustang was meant to be a $16,000 V6 car for girls, a cobra just has a bunch of shit thrown on top, but the same build quality.
nada means dick, and you know it... go to the forums and check prices, ive been offered 25 a few times this year and turned it down... I dont see a 20K mike Z bringing MORE than 25K right now. Could be wrong though, but I see 05-06 C6s selling for 25, so why would a older C5 be worth that?

[Turbo5.4]

Nope not wrong here. And I'm also a die hard ford guy. Just don't like shitheads like you talk shit about beating a stock vette. Big fucking deal. Put a supercharger on that stock vette and see what happens. Then talk shit.

sink 20k into the cobra and even the feild then.... and see what the fuck happens... your vette will piss itself...

[5.0_CJ]

nada means dick, and you know it... go to the forums and check prices, ive been offered 25 a few times this year and turned it down... I dont see a 20K mike Z bringing MORE than 25K right now. Could be wrong though, but I see 05-06 C6s selling for 25, so why would a older C5 be worth that?

I'm an auto loan officer, NADA is the industry, period. It is the one and only appraisal tool used for vehicles in this part of the country. I'm just giving you facts, not hearsay from forums.

[Super Coupe]

I had my C5 when the 03 cobras were hot shit, I raced a handful of them stock for stock and stomped the shit out of all of them. I ran a handful of 03 cobras with a full exhaust, and beat them as well. I've driven 03's before, and I've driven 03's with pulleys - I'm absolutely confident in my experience. I would also have to add in that from my experience, the shifter in a vette with it's rod operated transaxle is a little more difficult to master, and the majority of vette owners can't drive their car. I think the issue here with all the argument is we have a handful of cobra nut huggers that want to talk about pullied cobras with ported blowers, nitrous, everything stripped out until the car is a hollow shell, etc..etc.. giving them knowledge of those vehicles, which is just absurd and completely off topic.

Do you have a vette right now? If so what mods.

[STROKD]

Ok maybe you are tired and can't read the other post. He is talking about a 40k vette which is a new to his 20k 03 cobra used. No where did I said anything about an 04 Z06.

Im comparing year models to make it fair, wasnt comparing what car is cheaper to buy and mod, Im talking depreciation and resell value in todays market. Trying to make a point but it was obviously lost in translation so nevermind.

[Badass2000gt]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-CHEVY-CORVETTE-BLK-BLK-6-SPD-HEADS-UP-BOSE-405HP_W0QQitemZ290328128255QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_C ars_Trucks?hash=item4398e7aaff&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-SVT-Cobra-Kenne-Bell-10th-Anniversary-Edition_W0QQitemZ280367679797QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Cars_Trucks?hash=item4147374935&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A2|39%3A1

and thats a 03 with a shitload of aftermarket...

And I bet anything that when the new 5.0 Gt comes out with 400 hp N/A and the 03-04 cobras will lose their values just like the Z06 did when the new vette came out with the 400hp ls2.

[5.0_CJ]

sink 20k into the cobra and even the feild then.... and see what the fuck happens... your vette will piss itself...

lol, just add $20,000 more into the vehicle? This is every mustang owners argument on this forum for the last 10 damn years, seriously?

[Super Coupe]

I'm an auto loan officer, NADA is the industry, period. It is the one and only appraisal tool used for vehicles in this part of the country. I'm just giving you facts, not hearsay from forums.

Thats why they said my coupe is only worth 3500 bucks and I could go and sell it right now for over twice that?

[5.0_CJ]

Do you have a vette right now? If so what mods.

yes I do, mods are in my profile.

[Badass2000gt]

Im comparing year models to make it fair, wasnt comparing what car is cheaper to buy and mod, Im talking depreciation and resell value in todays market. Trying to make a point but it was obviously lost in translation so nevermind.

Read my post #153

[5.0_CJ]

Thats why they said my coupe is only worth 3500 bucks and I could go and sell it right now for over twice that?

we're not talking about a 22 year old car dude. But, for a reality check, go slam it into a barrier and see what your insurance company gives you for it, that should bring things into perspective.

[Super Coupe]

And I bet anything that when the new 5.0 Gt comes out with 400 hp N/A and the 03-04 cobras will lose their values just like the Z06 did when the new vette came out with the 400hp ls2.

Again look at the 93 cobras. They still have STRONG resale.

[STROKD]

Why are you guys arguing over two slow cars? Who cares which one is faster stock? In this hobby, cars dont stay stock very long. Run what you brung and hope bring more then the other guy.

says the guy arguing with me over a stock Z vs a stock 08 Viper... LOL! I said the very samething to you about modding and no one leaving em stock, and you said some people do.:)

[Turbo5.4]

lol, just add $20,000 more into the vehicle? This is every mustang owners argument on this forum for the last 10 damn years, seriously?

he wanted complain about it having more displacement and no blower... so put your blower on it and lets even the field by making the prices the same...

therefor no one can complain which one is the cheaper car as they cost the same... and then therefor we can see which one is faster and a better deal...

i bet it will be the cobra... :)

[Super Coupe]

yes I do, mods are in my profile.

Why don't you come get you a piece of a bolt on 04 cobra if you think you got something.

[Turbo5.4]

go slam it into a barrier and see what your insurance company gives you for it, that should bring things into perspective.

for sure.... you will get what the ins company offers unless you go thru all the bs...

[Super Coupe]

we're not talking about a 22 year old car dude. But, for a reality check, go slam it into a barrier and see what your insurance company gives you for it, that should bring things into perspective.

I slammed it into an old lady going about 45 mph and they said they would give me 3500 bucks for it.

[5.0_CJ]

here we go again. "blahblahblah - my car" - "but blahblah mycar" - "blahbah i'll race you."


Why don't you come get you a piece of a bolt on 04 cobra if you think you got something.
....

[Badass2000gt]

Again look at the 93 cobras. They still have STRONG resale.

yes cause not so many was made (and I know you are not talking about the cobra R) and you have to find the right buyer. Some people don't like a fox body style. Steve had his for sale for awhile till the right buyer came around.

[Turbo5.4]

I slammed it into an old lady going about 45 mph and they said they would give me 3500 bucks for it.

lol....

[STROKD]

I had my C5 when the 03 cobras were hot shit, I raced a handful of them stock for stock and stomped the shit out of all of them. I ran a handful of 03 cobras with a full exhaust, and beat them as well. I've driven 03's before, and I've driven 03's with pulleys - I'm absolutely confident in my experience. I would also have to add in that from my experience, the shifter in a vette with it's rod operated transaxle is a little more difficult to master, and the majority of vette owners can't drive their car. I think the issue here with all the argument is we have a handful of cobra nut huggers that want to talk about pullied cobras with ported blowers, nitrous, everything stripped out until the car is a hollow shell, etc..etc.. giving them knowledge of those vehicles, which is just absurd and completely off topic.

possibly, but I too own a C5 (its the wifes car) and my dad has a C6 which I drove the wheels off of it when he wasn't in town (10K miles at least)... I have good knowledge from which I speak of.

A pullied/exhaust/tuned Cobra is faster than any stock cam and head C5 or C6 (not a Z0C6). End of discussion.

[5.0_CJ]

I slammed it into an old lady going about 45 mph and they said they would give me 3500 bucks for it.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about, because it was appraised using NADA. That was my entire point.

[Super Coupe]

It seems like vettes owners are scared. "Oh I can't race from a roll I spin my tires and I don't want to break anything."

[Badass2000gt]

Thank god office space is on.

[5.0_CJ]

A pullied/exhaust/tuned Cobra is faster than any stock cam and head C5 or C6 (not a Z0C6). End of discussion.

Either I ran into 15 or so bad drivers in 03 cobras, or most of the vette owners you're comparing them to couldn't drive (which is the majority of them).

[STROKD]

I'm an auto loan officer, NADA is the industry, period. It is the one and only appraisal tool used for vehicles in this part of the country. I'm just giving you facts, not hearsay from forums.

I understand that is what can be LOANED on a car, but not what they sell for. ;-)

I sold a 93 for 12 grand cash, no loan, nada says its worth what, 6-7K? is that all its worth and that a bank wont loan on it, does that mean i didnt get 12? see what Im sayin? nada is a good place to look, but not THE market maker... It says my 86 is worth like 1200 bucks, I think I could prob sell it as a roller for 4 x that.

[Super Coupe]

Either I ran into 15 or so bad drivers in 03 cobras, or most of the vette owners you're comparing them to couldn't drive (which is the majority of them).

Then come get some. You won't win.

[Badass2000gt]

Either I ran into 15 or so bad drivers in 03 cobras, or most of the vette owners you're comparing them to couldn't drive (which is the majority of them).

That or the cobra drivers shut down at 85 mph and said see my car is faster. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[5.0_CJ]

It seems like vettes owners are scared. "Oh I can't race from a roll I spin my tires and I don't want to break anything."

That's a damn good concern, I broke my rear twice launching, but that's since been remedied with a completely built drive train. Most vettes can't launch, I can drop it from 5k without an issue, it just costs a hell of a lot of money to do that.

[5.0_CJ]

Then come get some. You won't win.

Are we 18 years old dude, seriously? I don't give a shit about your cobra to be honest with you.

[Super Coupe]

That's a damn good concern, I broke my rear twice launching, but that's since been remedied with a completely built drive train. Most vettes can't launch, I can drop it from 5k without an issue, it just costs a hell of a lot of money to do that.

Come get some then whenever terminator03 and me go race whiteligtning.

[Badass2000gt]

Come get some then whenever terminator03 and me go race whiteligtning.

In mexico of course.

[Super Coupe]

Are we 18 years old dude, seriously? I don't give a shit about your cobra to be honest with you.

Then why talk? I don't have a cobra. My cousin is wanting to race.

[Super Coupe]

In mexico of course.

of course.

[Badass2000gt]

Then why talk? I don't have a cobra. My cousin is wanting to race.

OHHHHH Jesus Christ. All this shit talking and you aren't even the one that is racing.

[5.0_CJ]

Then why talk? I don't have a cobra. My cousin is wanting to race.

lol so you're the middleman? "My cousin can beat your car..." This is ridiculous. I was finished with swinging dicks a while ago, I really don't care. This has gotten a little childish, like I said when I first posted in this thread, the cobra owners were going to talk shit, my car this, my car that, and it's going to end with "I'll race you" shit - And that is exactly what happened.

[Super Coupe]

lol so you're the middleman? "My cousin can beat your car..." This is ridiculous. I was finished with swinging dicks a while ago, I really don't care.

I AM RACING!!!! I don't have a cobra. I will post the video again. Me and my cousin in mexico. He has bolt on cobra 473 rwhp. My car 340rwhp. I am sure he will come get some of white lightning too.

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[STROKD]

Either I ran into 15 or so bad drivers in 03 cobras, or most of the vette owners you're comparing them to couldn't drive (which is the majority of them).

maybe both? I can drive both cars just fine, so I dont know?

There are LOTS of different mods on the Cobras, could have been many different things. My car runs almost dead even with Andrews vette, and I'd say he is prob one of the better drivers on this site. He made 440 something rw when we ran a couple years ago, and my car made 470 rw at the time. its in the 48X range now.

I also beat people in my dad's C6 that had 480RW Cobras, doesn't mean I was faster, just that dudes can't drive...

I guess what I was getting at is I can drive my car and was hoping to make some money on this arguement, but it turned into a pissing match and I didn't get to make anything on the deal.:saroll:

[5.0_CJ]

maybe both? I can drive both cars just fine, so I dont know?

There are LOTS of different mods on the Cobras, could have been many different things. My car runs almost dead even with Andrews vette, and I'd say he is prob one of the better drivers on this site. He made 440 something rw when we ran a couple years ago, and my car made 470 rw at the time. its in the 48X range now.

I also beat people in my dad's C6 that had 480RW Cobras, doesn't mean I was faster, just that dudes can't drive...

I guess what I was getting at is I can drive my car and was hoping to make some money on this arguement, but it turned into a pissing match and I didn't get to make anything on the deal.:saroll:

I know you can drive, we raced quite a while back.

[Badass2000gt]

maybe both? I can drive both cars just fine, so I dont know?

There are LOTS of different mods on the Cobras, could have been many different things. My car runs almost dead even with Andrews vette, and I'd say he is prob one of the better drivers on this site. He made 440 something rw when we ran a couple years ago, and my car made 470 rw at the time. its in the 48X range now.

I also beat people in my dad's C6 that had 480RW Cobras, doesn't mean I was faster, just that dudes can't drive...

I guess what I was getting at is I can drive my car and was hoping to make some money on this arguement, but it turned into a pissing match and I didn't get to make anything on the deal.:saroll:

Man I would love to race if I had or knew someone who had a ls3 vette.

[STROKD]

I know you can drive, we raced quite a while back.

we did? lol I dont remember, what car and what year? lols.:disappointed: Did I win?:)

[5.0_CJ]

we did? lol I dont remember, what car and what year? lols.:disappointed: Did I win?:)

Shit, 2003 or so I guess, I had a black 92 vert GT, heads/cam/intake/15psi blown - it was with the supras on the freeway. It was a good race, I had my 2.73's ready to surprise you :)

http://jadefalcon.shackspace.com/Pics/Stang/stang_train_small.jpg

[STROKD]

Man I would love to race if I had or knew someone who had a ls3 vette.

:006: that'd be fun, I know Im going to race White Lightning when I get back, but to be honest, he's not real keen on the idea...

Maybe he knows a little something you dont?:tounge-in-cheek: He has raced me before in his older faster car...

[STROKD]

Shit, 2003 or so I guess, I had a black 92 vert GT, heads/cam/intake/15psi blown - it was with the supras on the freeway. It was a good race, I had my 2.73's ready to surprise you :)

http://jadefalcon.shackspace.com/Pics/Stang/stang_train_small.jpg

man that's a sick car, i think i'd remember it... was i in my hatch? only cars that ever gave me a close run on the highway were Wes's 95 Cobra, Alex's 402CI NOS C6, and Kelly's RSI TT Viper.

I would have remembered a sick ass fox body rolling out with me. I think you have me confused possibly with someone else? If not, um good racin?!:tounge-in-cheek:

[5.0_CJ]

man that's a sick car, i think i'd remember it... was i in my hatch? only cars that ever gave me a close run on the highway were Wes's 95 Cobra, Alex's 402CI NOS C6, and Kelly's RSI TT Viper.

I would have remembered a sick ass fox body rolling out with me. I think you have me confused possibly with someone else? If not, um good racin?!:tounge-in-cheek:

I'm pretty damn sure it was you, grey 4 eye that was extremely clean racing the supras. It was the fastest car I've ever raced on the freeway.

[Badass2000gt]

So have we all agreed vette>03 cobra FTW?

[5.0_CJ]

So have we all agreed vette>03 cobra FTW?

An 07 vette with a full exhaust should beat a pullied 03 cobra, I'm pretty confident in that, as long as the dude can drive his car.

[Badass2000gt]

An 07 vette with a full exhaust should beat a pullied 03 cobra, I'm pretty confident in that, as long as the dude can drive his car.

Man we will never win this arguement. These cobra owners are know it all. Oh well I would take a vette over an 03-04 cobra anyday of the week. Now a GT500 is a different story.

[5.0_CJ]

Man we will never win this arguement. These cobra owners are know it all. Oh well I would take a vette over an 03-04 cobra anyday of the week. Now a GT500 is a different story.

I've had both man, I think the vette is a much better overall sports car, and it gets 32mpg on the freeway. I've never been so happy with a car.

[Badass2000gt]

I've had both man, I think the vette is a much better overall sports car, and it gets 32mpg on the freeway. I've never been so happy with a car.

My father in law has an 06 vette and he let me drive it and I fell in love. I would love to have an ls2 or ls3 vette.

[STROKD]

An 07 vette with a full exhaust should beat a pullied 03 cobra, I'm pretty confident in that, as long as the dude can drive his car.

When Im back in town, I'd love to show you first hand. Do you know anyone with a full exhaust LS2 C6?:confused2: Shit Ill even race a full exhaust LS3 at this point just to prove a point.:tounge-in-cheek:

[STROKD]

I'm pretty damn sure it was you, grey 4 eye that was extremely clean racing the supras. It was the fastest car I've ever raced on the freeway.

Dunno, I dont know of any others... Ill just leave it at that and thanks for the race and compliment.:)

[5.0_CJ]

When Im back in town, I'd love to show you first hand. Do you know anyone with a full exhaust LS2 C6?:confused2: Shit Ill even race a full exhaust LS3 at this point just to prove a point.:tounge-in-cheek:

I'd like to see a pullied 03 cobra against my vette, I'll bring my C5 out to see it.

[Badass2000gt]

I'd like to see a pullied 03 cobra against my vette, I'll bring my C5 out to see it.

You'll win.

[5.0_CJ]

You'll win.

it's not the twin turbo lingenfelter if that's what you're thinking :)

[Badass2000gt]

it's not the twin turbo lingenfelter if that's what you're thinking :)

Yeah I know I was seeing if stroked would come back with "you want to make a bet" comment.

[STROKD]

Oh I forgot to add, Ill say this peace and then go to sleep...

XSTANG that used to be on this site a LONG time ago had an 07 C6 I think it was, with full exhaust and a cam, and me and White Lightning beat him by 2-3 car lengths from a 40 roll... He said it made 415-420 to the wheels I think it was. White Lightning can chime in, I know he will remember the details.

This was about 2.5 years ago or so.:28::buttkick:

[STROKD]

I'd like to see a pullied 03 cobra against my vette, I'll bring my C5 out to see it.

how much u making power wise? If you have over 475 it wont be worth wasting your gas.:disappointed:

[Badass2000gt]

Oh I forgot to add, Ill say this peace and then go to sleep...

XSTANG that used to be on this site a LONG time ago had an 07 C6 I think it was, with full exhaust and a cam, and me and White Lightning beat him by 2-3 car lengths from a 40 roll... He said it made 415-420 to the wheels I think it was. White Lightning can chime in, I know he will remember the details.

This was about 2.5 years ago or so.:28::buttkick:

Fuck he didn't know how to drive then. Fuck what does white lightning have done to his vette?

[STROKD]

Fuck he didn't know how to drive then. Fuck what does white lightning have done to his vette?

this was 2.5 years ago or so, he had his Supra at the time since his 08 Vette wasn't created back then.

and XSTANG or whatever his name was, was a GREAT driver...

[Badass2000gt]

this was 2.5 years ago or so, he had his Supra at the time since his 08 Vette wasn't created back then.

and XSTANG or whatever his name was, was a GREAT driver...

Oh didn't know he had an 08 vette. I heard his supra was badass.

[5.0_CJ]

how much u making power wise? If you have over 475 it wont be worth wasting your gas.:disappointed:

it's a road racing car, not meant for drag racing, I think it would be interesting.

[STROKD]

Oh didn't know he had an 08 vette. I heard his supra was badass.

well thank you, because we were door to door locked to about 150 or so when we both gave up.:) Guess my ole pile of shit Cobra is in turn bad ass too if his Supra was? Right?:owned2:

[Badass2000gt]

well thank you, because we were door to door locked to about 150 or so when we both gave up.:) Guess my ole pile of shit Cobra is in turn bad ass too if his Supra was? Right?:owned2:

Well I guess it wasn't that badass then.:firedevil: He does weigh 300 pounds and those supras werent lightweights.

[STROKD]

it's a road racing car, not meant for drag racing, I think it would be interesting.

u have a 99, sweet, me too... Nassau FRC over here although its stock minus a VaraRam B2 and a Z06 TI catback...

Id be more than happy to race your C5 when Im back in town. If you dont have heads and cam or some juice, I hope I don't upset you too much.:disappointed:

[STROKD]

Well I guess it wasn't that badass then.:firedevil: He does weigh 300 pounds and those supras werent lightweights.

true true, but neither was my car at 3795 race weight (last time on scales)...:006:

[Turbo5.4]

20 bucks says stroked walks the vette...

[White_lightning]

Well I guess it wasn't that badass then.:firedevil: He does weigh 300 pounds and those supras werent lightweights.

my supra was low...
this is one of the many 500 rwhp terminators i walked..

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[Beenfetchedlately]

No, Im jobless and not hung like Ron Jeremy. I am not speaking dilusional, that was you with the whole C6 being faster than a pullied Terminator comments.:crackhead:

No fairy tale comments were said on my end, just the facts Jack.:)

if you want to get stuck where you are at...we can set up another race for you with a red 3rd gen...LMFAO!!!!!

[Beenfetchedlately]

Man I've been out of the racing at the track world for a while so I don't know what anything will run as far time and mph. I just see the stuff on the street. But it sounds like you have a strong cobra running 100 mph in the 1/8th. What is that low 6's?More like low 8's with his weak ass driving skills. But he does always come with a lot of excuses of why he can't do this or that.

[davbrucas]

Wow...didnt mean to start such a pissing match.

[VETTKLR]

have no desire to spend any money on rear tires since im planning on going wider wheels in the near future.. :) im sure i can find a cobra on here who will play from 50:)
you have a sizeable rwhp advantange and even weight on me. the least you can do is give me a 50 roll so i can see your tail lights.

:yup:

"Full Bolt-on Cobra" reporting in, my friend. :006:

[Badass2000gt]

my supra was low...
this is one of the many 500 rwhp terminators i walked..

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So Stroked cobra has over 500 rwhp then? Cause he said he stayed door to door with you.

[bcoop]

if you want to get stuck where you are at...we can set up another race for you with a red 3rd gen...LMFAO!!!!!




hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


Who wound up with that car? Strok'd never did beat it, did he?

[White_lightning]

So Stroked cobra has over 500 rwhp then? Cause he said he stayed door to door with you.

its hard to say. when Stroked and i ran we both had issues. i had a friends ECU in the car and only put down 400/360 with it.. with my stock ECU i put down 441/500 at the same boost level. but his car got faster since then too..

[White_lightning]

:yup:

"Full Bolt-on Cobra" reporting in, my friend. :006:

come on now:) you know that doesnt count:) now you are just pickin on my stock car..

[Sergio]

since nobody is talking about the OP's original question, my c5 ETs quicker and traps higher than the cobra owners argueing in this thread. just saying. :eek:

[White_lightning]

since nobody is talking about the OP's original question, my c5 ETs quicker and traps higher than the cobra owners argueing in this thread. just saying. :eek:

are you stock+ catback?

this thread has gone WAY off track..
the OP asked ls2 c6+ catback VS full bolt on 03/04 cobra.
IMO the cobra should kill it.. i have seen fULL bolt on cobras make 500 rwhp and a catback ls2 make 360 rwhp. if a 500 rwhp cobra cant decimate a 360 rwhp ls2 c6.. something is wrong.

i offered up my car since, i dont have a catback, but i have a cold air intake. so while not exact.. its similar enough.

how this now turned into a cobras VS everything is beyond me. To each his own.. i bought a vette because i like them.. i didnt buy a cobra because.. shock... i didnt like them.. i dont like how they look, how they drive, how they handle, how they stop and a slew of other things.

since ppl brought up " ZOMG FOR THE price of a c6 you can make 12093102912309 rwhp in an 03 cobra"
well. for the price of the cobra you can go 8s in a fox body coupe.. the money VS speed thing is irrelevant.

[Sergio]

are you stock+ catback?.

no. but that's my point. the thread derailed bigtime. personally I think the 03 will be slighty faster too, but I believe there's really only one way to find out.

[Turbo5.4]

since ppl brought up " ZOMG FOR THE price of a c6 you can make 12093102912309 rwhp in an 03 cobra"
well. for the price of the cobra you can go 8s in a fox body coupe.. the money VS speed thing is irrelevant.


then so is the supercharger vs displacement thing.. :)

[White_lightning]

then so is the supercharger vs displacement thing.. :)

where did i say anything about blown VS displacement?
the cobra has a smaller motor it makes up for it by having a blower.. with bolt ons the cobra still has the advantage.. just like the supra. my supra had a catback/intercooler/boost controller and went from 300 rwhp to 440 rwhp.

i just want to see how my car does against a cobra that i know is faster then me. its not weather he will beat me, but rather how badly.

[Turbo5.4]

where did i say anything about blown VS displacement?
the cobra has a smaller motor it makes up for it by having a blower.. with bolt ons the cobra still has the advantage.. just like the supra. my supra had a catback/intercooler/boost controller and went from 300 rwhp to 440 rwhp.

i just want to see how my car does against a cobra that i know is faster then me. its not weather he will beat me, but rather how badly.

that was my argument for when he said let us put a blower on and see what happens... blah blah blah...

i think the cobra should win...

now put a cam and full exhaust i think it would be a better race...

[White_lightning]

that was my argument for when he said let us put a blower on and see what happens... blah blah blah...

i think the cobra should win...

now put a cam and full exhaust i think it would be a better race...

yeah. i think im the only vette owner in here not saying the vette will win.. you are talking about a car weighing about the same but making ALOT more power.. why is it such a big deal if it wins? its STOCK vs modded.
im willing to bet eventually when i do longtubes and a cam, i will be faster then the bolt on cobras. or even power adder to power adder .. but.. that is NOT what this discussion is about.. its about as close to stock as possible c6 vs a full bolt on cobra.

[STROKD]

if you want to get stuck where you are at...we can set up another race for you with a red 3rd gen...LMFAO!!!!!

Im not sure how a raced out third gen is the same as a stock C6, but you got me there...

[STROKD]

More like low 8's with his weak ass driving skills. But he does always come with a lot of excuses of why he can't do this or that.

Dude, you must have missed my post not claiming to have run a good time in it and to have said I only ran high 7s. Reading isn't your strong suit is it?

Or when you see my SN you just fly off the handle like a bull in rage seeing red?

[STROKD]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


Who wound up with that car? Strok'd never did beat it, did he?

I raced it two times. Door to door at Sweetheart, he beat me by about 2 cars on Old Denton when I almost hit it twice from lack of traction.

He called the race on the way back off and told me he didn't want to take the chance of me hitting him.:disappointed: I hated that transmission.

[STROKD]

since nobody is talking about the OP's original question, my c5 ETs quicker and traps higher than the cobra owners argueing in this thread. just saying. :eek:

Its stock with exhaust? Damn your car moves out man!:saroll:

[Super Coupe]

yeah. i think im the only vette owner in here not saying the vette will win.. you are talking about a car weighing about the same but making ALOT more power.. why is it such a big deal if it wins? its STOCK vs modded.
im willing to bet eventually when i do longtubes and a cam, i will be faster then the bolt on cobras. or even power adder to power adder .. but.. that is NOT what this discussion is about.. its about as close to stock as possible c6 vs a full bolt on cobra.

I have less horsepowarz than a c6 i should lose!

[Andrew]

I have less horsepowarz than a c6 i should lose!

You are like that pesky little fly buzzing around your head on a hot summer day that just won't go away....

[Super Coupe]

You are like that pesky little fly buzzing around your head on a hot summer day that just won't go away....

Don't you just hate that?

[AutoConnection_USA]

This thread is too funny. Having owned and do Currently OWN MULTIPLES OF EACH CAR. I would say this to break it down.

It will depend on a few factors. Assuming we are talking about a pullied Cobra vs Exhaust C6. No sandbagging BS going on.

I have pulled MANY C5 and C6 Vettes in pullied Cobras. I have been pulled by many C5 and C6 vettes too. I have pulled MANY pullied Cobras with C5 and C6 Corvettes and vice versa. A lot of times cars that were owned and quality control tested by yours truly and our staff.

1. Driver (including knowledge of cars) A good driver knows how to set up the best race for their cars benefit. That is part of the game. Some are good at it..some are below par. For example. A good Vette driver will make sure to go from a high roll..a good Cobra driver will go from a lower roll or dig. A good vette driver will make sure the Cobra driver drives his car a lot before racing. Therefore heat soaking the blower to retard the HP numbers. That could happen by having the Cobra driver follow you around (A LOT) for the right spot. Or, that could happen with a bunch of false starts and missed shifts by the Vette driver. A good Cobra driver knows better and will make sure to run while the Eaton (Heaton) is still cool.
2. The stength of each car in stock form. Meaning, how strong they were before the mods started. We have seen some cars have a 50 HP difference to tire w comprable mods or bone stock Dynoed same day...same temp ect.

We have a full exhaust C6 right now...and as always several Cobras and C5 Z06's. Maybe we should create a unbiased video for the kicks. 3 Wide FTW!

And to those debating what each car is worth on resale. Seems to be a lot of talking out of their asses going on here. The C5 Z06's and 03 04 Cobras are very comparable. Both are holding values nicely right now. They dropped a few months ago and now the market has picked up on both. Those arguing that NADA counts for shit...those comments are pure entertainment! NADA and KBB are weak sources when it comes to the Cobras or Z's. Not sure where these (KBB AND NADA) asshates get their numbers.

For the comments on the C6's going for 25K. Again, a few months ago that could be true. The C6 market has picked back up over the last 30-60 days. 25K range would get you a higher mile C6 at best. (Typical examples)

Reason: Everybody and their mother heard that the market was soft and they were now affortable. Also, the used car market is MUCH stronger than new cars. That has caused dealers to be after the same real estate at auction driving the wholesale prices up...therefore driving the retail prices up.

In my opinion... this will be short term. Once the GM dealers that are on the hit list go out. The market will flood with C6 Corvettes that will be liquided on the wholesale market. That will drive them back down for a short while. Expect it to self adjust about 6 months to 1 year after that point.

Last point. There seems to be several people involved in this thread.My question is what does each person so active in this thread drive? Seems to me that people that talk the most shit in threads such as this one on ALL THE BOARDS are the ones driving a Kia. If you don't have real personal experience that adds to the content of this or any thread. Shut the fuck up ..enjoy your Kia...and MOVE ON!

That is All.

[White_lightning]

I have less horsepowarz than a c6 i should lose!

so you have a drag car.. i have a bone stock cruiser... your car weighs what? 2800lbs and is set up for drag racing? mine is set up for what ever the factory set it up for... apples to oranges

[5.0_CJ]

This thread is too funny. Having owned and do Currently OWN MULTIPLES OF EACH CAR. I would say this to break it down.

It will depend on a few factors. Assuming we are talking about a pullied Cobra vs Exhaust C6. No sandbagging BS going on.

I have pulled MANY C5 and C6 Vettes in pullied Cobras. I have been pulled by many C5 and C6 vettes too. I have pulled MANY pullied Cobras with C5 and C6 Corvettes and vice versa. A lot of times cars that were owned and quality control tested by yours truly and our staff.

1. Driver (including knowledge of cars) A good driver knows how to set up the best race for their cars benefit. That is part of the game. Some are good at it..some are below par. For example. A good Vette driver will make sure to go from a high roll..a good Cobra driver will go from a lower roll or dig. A good vette driver will make sure the Cobra driver drives his car a lot before racing. Therefore heat soaking the blower to retard the HP numbers. That could happen by having the Cobra driver follow you around (A LOT) for the right spot. Or, that could happen with a bunch of false starts and missed shifts by the Vette driver. A good Cobra driver knows better and will make sure to run while the Eaton (Heaton) is still cool.
2. The stength of each car in stock form. Meaning, how strong they were before the mods started. We have seen some cars have a 50 HP difference to tire w comprable mods or bone stock Dynoed same day...same temp ect.

We have a full exhaust C6 right now...and as always several Cobras and C5 Z06's. Maybe we should create a unbiased video for the kicks. 3 Wide FTW!

And to those debating what each car is worth on resale. Seems to be a lot of talking out of their asses going on here. The C5 Z06's and 03 04 Cobras are very comparable. Both are holding values nicely right now. They dropped a few months ago and now the market has picked up on both. Those arguing that NADA counts for shit...those comments are pure entertainment! NADA and KBB are weak sources when it comes to the Cobras or Z's. Not sure where these (KBB AND NADA) asshates get their numbers.

For the comments on the C6's going for 25K. Again, a few months ago that could be true. The C6 market has picked back up over the last 30-60 days. 25K range would get you a higher mile C6 at best. (Typical examples)

Reason: Everybody and their mother heard that the market was soft and they were now affortable. Also, the used car market is MUCH stronger than new cars. That has caused dealers to be after the same real estate at auction driving the wholesale prices up...therefore driving the retail prices up.

In my opinion... this will be short term. Once the GM dealers that are on the hit list go out. The market will flood with C6 Corvettes that will be liquided on the wholesale market. That will drive them back down for a short while. Expect it to self adjust about 6 months to 1 year after that point.

Last point. There seems to be several people involved in this thread.My question is what does each person so active in this thread drive? Seems to me that people that talk the most shit in threads such as this one on ALL THE BOARDS are the ones driving a Kia. If you don't have real personal experience that adds to the content of this or any thread. Shut the fuck up ..enjoy your Kia...and MOVE ON!

That is All.

weak sources or not every vehicle you finance gets appraised off of them. Of course you wish you could get financed off street numbers and what people say they are worth on forums, but there is no way you're going to put any vehicle on the books through a finance company without using NADA or KBB for valuation - unless you normally sell vehicles at 140% LTV.

[JKD]

Strokd's pullied car runs good for what is done to it. It "might" be a little faster then your average pullied car, but not because it makes more power then anyone else, but rather Matt drives the piss out of it.

All of this bickering over who is faster is pointless anyways. Matt is in Cali, when/if he comes back, his car will still be in Cali. And even IF someone agreed to race, by the time it was time to race, both guys would have modded their cars more and lied about it. So the argument would be null and void. lol. Typical racing nonsense, talk shit, nothing comes of it.

[White_lightning]

Last point. There seems to be several people involved in this thread.My question is what does each person so active in this thread drive? Seems to me that people that talk the most shit in threads such as this one on ALL THE BOARDS are the ones driving a Kia. If you don't have real personal experience that adds to the content of this or any thread. Shut the fuck up ..enjoy your Kia...and MOVE ON!

That is All.
c6 with a K&N

[Super Coupe]

so you have a drag car.. i have a bone stock cruiser... your car weighs what? 2800lbs and is set up for drag racing? mine is set up for what ever the factory set it up for... apples to oranges

How do I have a drag car? I have stock heads, stock cam, a cobra intake, full interior, ac, heat, radio, overdrive, and drive the car everyday before it got wrecked and will drive it everyday after markprues gets finished with it. With me in it my car is a hair over 3k pounds.

I have 87 mustang. Gears exhaust cobra intake and a 5115 kit.

[Super Coupe]

Strokd's pullied car runs good for what is done to it. It "might" be a little faster then your average pullied car, but not because it makes more power then anyone else, but rather Matt drives the piss out of it.

All of this bickering over who is faster is pointless anyways. Matt is in Cali, when/if he comes back, his car will still be in Cali. And even IF someone agreed to race, by the time it was time to race, both guys would have modded their cars more and lied about it. So the argument would be null and void. lol. Typical racing nonsense, talk shit, nothing comes of it.

My cousin has pretty much the same car as matt. It's even the same color and he will race him. I will tell him about the thread and he will post up and yall set something up.

[White_lightning]

it still cracks me up how many people are talking about a race that was going to only include terminator 03 and myself.. and the fact that i never said i would beat him. I just want to see how badly he pulls me. if an equal weight car with almost 100 rwhp more then me cant walk me.. something is wrong.. i estimate he will pull 5+ cars om me from a 50 punch.

[AutoConnection_USA]

weak sources or not every vehicle you finance gets appraised off of them. Of course you wish you could get financed off street numbers and what people say they are worth on forums, but there is no way you're going to put any vehicle on the books through a finance company without using NADA or KBB for valuation - unless you normally sell vehicles at 140% LTV.


I agree with you on putting vehicles on the books with finance companies. That doesn't mean anything on what the market is doing.

I am talking about real numbers. What the cars ACTUALLY sell for..not what people are saying on forums or what "asking prices" are. We deal with these cars daily. I have seen these cars bring over retail at a dealer auction. What KBB and NADA says is not the best source for determining what these cars are worth. Most bankers don't know their ass from their elbow. Most know nothing about cars and real market value.Those sources only help w what loan value will be with no cash down or trade.

[White_lightning]

How do I have a drag car? I have stock heads, stock cam, a cobra intake, full interior, ac, heat, radio, overdrive, and drive the car everyday before it got wrecked and will drive it everyday after markprues gets finished with it. With me in it my car is a hair over 3k pounds.

I have 87 mustang. Gears exhaust cobra intake and a 5115 kit.

and you are door to door with a full bolt on 03/04 cobra? wow the cobra owners must feel dumb.. all cobra owners should sell their cars and get 87 coupes... i mean it makes sense to me ..

at a hair over 3k. you are about 600lbs lighter then me.

[White_lightning]

NADA and KBB are guides.. cars are worth what they sell for not what some agency thinks they are.. book on a 98 supra is no where NEAR what they sell for..

[5.0_CJ]

I agree with you on putting vehicles on the books with finance companies. That doesn't mean anything on what the market is doing.

I am talking about real numbers. What the cars ACTUALLY sell for..not what people are saying on forums or what "asking prices" are. We deal with these cars daily. I have seen these cars bring over retail at a dealer auction. What KBB and NADA says is not the best source for determining what these cars are worth. Most bankers don't know their ass from their elbow. Most know nothing about cars and real market value.Those sources only help w what loan value will be with no cash down or trade.

I'm a banker myself, and I was also an F&I manager as well. I wouldn't pay and have never paid over their nada or bluebook values. I understand your business as I'm sure you understand mine, but if you have experience you don't pay street prices.

[AutoConnection_USA]

c6 with a K&N


I know what you have brother. ...and the fact that you can back your play. You and Matt both.