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Paladin
07-02-2009, 09:51 PM
lied to his wife, cheated on her, and nothing much else. The Atty General for his state has now come out and said the Gov did not use taxpayer monye in any of this, so basically he lied to his wife and cheated.
My question is this, why should he step down if Clinton could lie to his wife, cheat on his wife, have sex with a subordiante, commit perjury, and also lie to the American people and nothing happened to him of any real consequence?
I wonder how many of the Dems that defended Clinton are now calling for the Gov to step down for having done alot less than Clinton did.
Why is it that several Republicans are calling for the Gov to stpe down but no one from the Dems called for Clinton to step down and most defended him vehemently?
These are some of the reasons why I vote for mostly Republicans since the most conservative candidates are Republicans and I se so much more hypocrisy from the Dems.
Vertnut
07-02-2009, 09:54 PM
We Republicans are held to a higher standard, brother. :147:
sc281_99-0135
07-02-2009, 09:56 PM
We Republicans are held to a higher standard, brother. :147:
Amen.
We are the party that preaches to do what is right and moral. It seems only right that we walk the path we say we do.
The liberals can do whatever they want. They have already proven the flexibilty of their morals, values, beliefs.
5point0pony
07-02-2009, 09:58 PM
I thought he already paid back the money because he confirmed that he used the money. Also, I think the Republicans have asked him to step down because it's the party that tries to represent family values.
5point0pony
07-02-2009, 10:01 PM
Amen.
We are the party that preaches to do what is right and moral. It seems only right that we walk the path we say we do.
The liberals can do whatever they want. They have already proven the flexibilty of their morals, values, beliefs.
Saying you try to do the right thing doesn't mean be perfect or don't run, does it? It's not as if Republican congressman/senators are without sin. Does having an affair make him less able to be a Governor?
stocksilver02
07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
You are correct about Clinton, but, did he use our tax money? NO!! Also, this is not the first republican to lie, purge, and commit adultery. Just a word of thought.
sc281_99-0135
07-02-2009, 10:10 PM
Saying you try to do the right thing doesn't mean be perfect or don't run, does it? It's not as if Republican congressman/senators are without sin. Does having an affair make him less able to be a Governor?
If he was a libertarian, then it wouldnt make a damn bit if difference; but since his image was crafted on his morality and integrity then it casts a shadow over him entirely.
5point0pony
07-02-2009, 10:12 PM
If he was a libertarian, then it wouldnt make a damn bit if difference; but since his image was crafted on his morality and integrity then it casts a shadow over him entirely.
I agree, I was just wondering what everyone else thinks.
fast83
07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
they all cry like little bitches when busted.they are nothing more than roll players.playing the part.
JP135
07-02-2009, 11:15 PM
Clinton was as crooked as a dog's hind leg. Clinton's supporters also tend to be crooked in their blind support of a man who committed a felony (perjury) in office. These facts are self-evident and not worthy of comparison.
Sanford is first a hypocrite; he campaigned on a platform of transparency and righteousness. Sanford called for Clinton to step down and was a supporter of Clinton's impeachment over the Lewinsky/perjury incident(s) .
Sanford betrayed the citizen's trust and violated his state's constitution by leaving his post (as well as the continental United States) without notifying anyone and without leaving the Lieutenant Governor in charge of the state government in his absense.
Saying Sanford the Republican doesn't need to be punished because Clinton the Democrat wasn't punished is barking up the wrong tree. Clinton is over and done. Political parties and affiliations thereto are moot points. Sanford needs to pay a high price and should be impeached.
tazz007
07-02-2009, 11:54 PM
You are correct about Clinton, but, did he use our tax money? NO!! Also, this is not the first republican to lie, purge, and commit adultery. Just a word of thought.
No but he did steal your Social security. He put it in the general budget. And you see where that is now don't you.
How do you think he reduced the deficit? Because he damn sure did not reduce spending.
Paladin
07-03-2009, 11:13 AM
I thought he already paid back the money because he confirmed that he used the money. Also, I think the Republicans have asked him to step down because it's the party that tries to represent family values.
You hit the nail on the head. Why didn't any Democrats ask for Clinton to step down, are they the party of no morals, ethics, integrity, honor, class, decency...........or anything like that?
Paladin
07-03-2009, 11:14 AM
You are correct about Clinton, but, did he use our tax money? NO!! Also, this is not the first republican to lie, purge, and commit adultery. Just a word of thought.
I guess you missed my point entirely.
Paladin
07-03-2009, 11:20 AM
If he was a libertarian, then it wouldnt make a damn bit if difference; but since his image was crafted on his morality and integrity then it casts a shadow over him entirely.
I think this thought process is entirely wrong. Shouldn't there be a level of decency no matter the party? Shouldn't someone who represents the people that elected him have somce honor, decency, ethics, morals, values and standards of common decency regardless of party? I mean really, do libertarians or Dems get a free pass on everything just because they are for gay marriage, abortion, and have "loose" morals?
I am not meaning to attack you and maybe I am wrong in my interpretation of what you mean, but if I am right, it makes me sick that some may feel that way.
Paladin
07-03-2009, 11:24 AM
You are correct about Clinton, but, did he use our tax money? NO!! Also, this is not the first republican to lie, purge, and commit adultery. Just a word of thought.
Come on dude, did you really miss the point that badly? Does it boil down to use of taxpayer money for you? The state comptroller/AG came out and said Sanford didn't use taxpayer money either. Please re-read the post and try and get my point about the hypocrisy and double standard going on between the cases. Clinton committed perjury, had sex with a subordinate and did everyhting Sanford did, and he was the POTUS!
There were people claiming Clinton should not be impeached who are now claiming the Gov should step down. Really?
MR TINFOIL HAT
07-03-2009, 11:49 AM
Both should have been fired and reprimanded appropriately, Especially Clinton for wanting us to buy his lie.
Muffrazr
07-03-2009, 02:07 PM
If he was a libertarian, then it wouldnt make a damn bit if difference; but since his image was crafted on his morality and integrity then it casts a shadow over him entirely.
Liberal left not libertarian. There is a difference.
Muffrazr
07-03-2009, 02:16 PM
Clinton was as crooked as a dog's hind leg. Clinton's supporters also tend to be crooked in their blind support of a man who committed a felony (perjury) in office. These facts are self-evident and not worthy of comparison.
Sanford is first a hypocrite; he campaigned on a platform of transparency and righteousness. Sanford called for Clinton to step down and was a supporter of Clinton's impeachment over the Lewinsky/perjury incident(s) .
Sanford betrayed the citizen's trust and violated his state's constitution by leaving his post (as well as the continental United States) without notifying anyone and without leaving the Lieutenant Governor in charge of the state government in his absense.
Saying Sanford the Republican doesn't need to be punished because Clinton the Democrat wasn't punished is barking up the wrong tree. Clinton is over and done. Political parties and affiliations thereto are moot points. Sanford needs to pay a high price and should be impeached.
Bravo, sir!!! Well said.
Paladin
07-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Both should have been fired and reprimanded appropriately, Especially Clinton for wanting us to buy his lie.
This is the consistent and conservative viewpoint I share with you. I have a problem with anyone defending Clinton and criticizing Sanford, because it has everything to do with partisan politics.
Paladin
07-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Clinton was as crooked as a dog's hind leg. Clinton's supporters also tend to be crooked in their blind support of a man who committed a felony (perjury) in office. These facts are self-evident and not worthy of comparison.
Sanford is first a hypocrite; he campaigned on a platform of transparency and righteousness. Sanford called for Clinton to step down and was a supporter of Clinton's impeachment over the Lewinsky/perjury incident(s) .
Sanford betrayed the citizen's trust and violated his state's constitution by leaving his post (as well as the continental United States) without notifying anyone and without leaving the Lieutenant Governor in charge of the state government in his absense.
Saying Sanford the Republican doesn't need to be punished because Clinton the Democrat wasn't punished is barking up the wrong tree. Clinton is over and done. Political parties and affiliations thereto are moot points. Sanford needs to pay a high price and should be impeached.
Fair enough. I just don't want to hear it from the hypocrites who defended Clinton.
I agree Sanford is a hypocrite.
sc281_99-0135
07-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Liberal left not libertarian. There is a difference.
I was speaking more towards his image. If he was libertarian, his personal preferences and his political duties to follow the constitution would be entirely separate, so neither would affect the other.
But yea, I get where you are coming from on the liberal thing :006:
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