N.Korea threatens to wipe the US off the map.

[90dfw]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.
Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.
The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.
The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.
"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.
The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the start of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula in state of war.
The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.
Tensions have been high since North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and then conducted its second underground atomic test on May 25.
Reacting to U.N. condemnation of that test, North Korea walked away from nuclear disarmament talks and warned it would fire a long-range missile.
North Korea has banned ships from the waters off its east coast starting Thursday through July 10 for military exercises, Japan's Coast Guard said.
South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the North may fire a Scud missile with a range of up to 310 miles (500 kilometers) or a short-range ground-to-ship missile with a range of 100 miles (160 kilometers) during the no-sail period.
A senior South Korean government official said the no-sail ban is believed connected to North Korean plans to fire short- or mid-range missiles. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.
U.S. defense and counterproliferation officials in Washington said they also expected the North to launch short- to medium-range missiles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.
South Korea will expedite the introduction of high-tech unmanned aerial surveillance systems and "bunker-buster" bombs in response to North Korea's provocations, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing unidentified ruling party members.
Meanwhile, a flurry of diplomatic efforts were under way to try getting North Korea to return to disarmament talks.
Russia's top nuclear envoy, Alexei Borodavkin, said after meeting with his South Korean counterpart that Moscow is open to other formats for discussion since Pyongyang has pulled out of formal six-nation negotiations.
In Beijing, top U.S. and Chinese defense officials also discussed North Korea. U.S. Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was heading next to Tokyo and Seoul for talks.
South Korea has proposed high-level "consultations" to discuss North Korea with the U.S., Russia, China and Japan.

[01VNMS4v]

It's all talk they nothing that will get no where close to Hawaii or the US main land

[Badass2000gt]

It's all talk they nothing that will get no where close to Hawaii or the US main land

Engrish?

[90dfw]

It's all talk they nothing that will get no where close to Hawaii or the US main land
prob not,but what is the almighty obama going to respond with???
If we dont do something, we are going to look like a bunch of pussies to the world..If we go in and bomb the shit out of them people will know not to fuck with us. And i mean bomb them without letting them know 3 weeks in advance thru cnn..just go there and drop a cpl million pounds of tnt everywhere..turn that shit hole into a big bowl of gook soup

[junior]

Engrish?

say waa?

[DOHCTR]

North Korea is like a little kid with a toy gun tugging on his moms purse.


Let me break it down to show how badass our military is, and how easily we could turn NK into a smoking crater-

-Our navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined
-We have 12 aircraft carriers, more than the rest of the world combined (the nearest nation has 2)
-We have 6 amphibious assault carriers just as good as britains carriers
-We us the m1 abrams tank, a combat vehicle so badass that most have been destroyed due to incompetence
-We USED to use the f15 eagle, a plane with over 100 kilss and ZERO losses, but some geniuses thought, "hey, this shit sucks" and designed the superior f22 raptor
-We have 18,169 airborne combat systems, NK has 1,778
-We have 14,997 airports, NK has 77
-We spend $515,400,000,000 on national defence, NK spends $5,500,000,000
-We have thousands of ICBMs that are maintained and ready to go with out any issues, NK may have enough spent fuel rods to make 2 nuclear weapons.

Heres another good break down-
http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

[DOHCTR]

prob not,but what is the almighty obama going to respond with???
If we dont do something, we are going to look like a bunch of pussies to the world..If we go in and bomb the shit out of them people will know not to fuck with us. And i mean bomb them without letting them know 3 weeks in advance thru cnn..just go there and drop a cpl million pounds of tnt everywhere..turn that shit hole into a big bowl of gook soup

The problem with bombing them is that they do have more artillery than any other nation on earth.... and Seoul being not far from the DMZ would get blown to bits at any sign of aggression by us. South Korea is a close ally of ours, and I need not remind you that we keep 30,000 troops stationed on our side of the DMZ.

[Denny]

Hmmm... it's gotta be better weather than this place. I'm in!

[90dfw]

The problem with bombing them is that they do have more artillery than any other nation on earth.... and Seoul being not far from the DMZ would get blown to bits at any sign of aggression by us. South Korea is a close ally of ours, and I need not remind you that we keep 60,000 troops stationed on our side of the DMZ.

CNN states 28,500 total in S.Korea.
Thats why we go in at night and blow that shit hole up, then send them a nice get well card that says they will get it twice as hard if anything is fired toward s.korea

[DOHCTR]

CNN states 28,500 total in S.Korea.
Thats why we go in at night and blow that shit hole up, then send them a nice get well card that says they will get it twice as hard if anything is fired toward s.korea

Yep I ninja edited that, in the article on Cracked is says 60k though. Its not that easy, nk actually does have nearly as many troops as we do.

[mustangpete4.6]

North Korea is like a little kid with a toy gun tugging on his moms purse.


Let me break it down to show how badass our military is, and how easily we could turn NK into a smoking crater-

-Our navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined
-We have 12 aircraft carriers, more than the rest of the world combined (the nearest nation has 2)
-We have 6 amphibious assault carriers just as good as britains carriers
-We us the m1 abrams tank, a combat vehicle so badass that most have been destroyed due to incompetence
-We USED to use the f15 eagle, a plane with over 100 kilss and ZERO losses, but some geniuses thought, "hey, this shit sucks" and designed the superior f22 raptor
-We have 18,169 airborne combat systems, NK has 1,778
-We have 14,997 airports, NK has 77
-We spend $515,400,000,000 on national defence, NK spends $5,500,000,000
-We have thousands of ICBMs that are maintained and ready to go with out any issues, NK may have enough spent fuel rods to make 2 nuclear weapons.

Heres another good break down-
http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html


All of this is well and good, but the main issue we need to look at is the idea of a madman with the ability to launch 1 ICBM. We are always at a state of readiness, but in order for us to deploy our force we must first be provoked. So, in order for us to invade NK we must first be fired upon. Now, maybe with Bush at the helm he may have used the boarding of the Kang Nam and the issue of war from NK as the smoking gun to invade, but with Obama, we will have to be fired upon in order for him to take action :(. So, American lives will HAVE to be lost in order for Obama to take any action what so ever. This is truly a sad time for our country :sadwavey:

[90dfw]

Yep I ninja edited that, in the article on Cracked is says 60k though. Its not that easy, nk actually does have nearly as many troops as we do.
i do know that they have a large army..but i think they have shitty old soviet era equip..

then again maybe they are hoping we will go over there and bomb them , they know we will just come back and rebuild it all bigger and better for free.

[90dfw]

All of this is well and good, but the main issue we need to look at is the idea of a madman with the ability to launch 1 ICBM. We are always at a state of readiness, but in order for us to deploy our force we must first be provoked. So, in order for us to invade NK we must first be fired upon. Now, maybe with Bush at the helm he may have used the boarding of the Kang Nam and the issue of war from NK as the smoking gun to invade, but with Obama, we will have to be fired upon in order for him to take action :(. So, American lives will HAVE to be lost in order for Obama to take any action what so ever. This is truly a sad time for our country :sadwavey:
wouldnt them firing a missle at hawaii be considered "fired upon first"?
sadly you are correct about obama.

[Paladin]

Maybe we should just talk with them and they will see the error of their ways. :tongue:

[90dfw]

Maybe we should just talk with them and they will see the error of their ways. :tongue:
True..Maybe obama will send them a nice fruit basket with a lovely hallmark card.

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

[Blame Canada]

True..Maybe obama will send them a nice fruit basket with a lovely hallmark card.

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

http://www.ediblearrangements.com/

Lets send them one of these. I think they will like it.

[bcoop]

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

Well aren't you just a fucking badass?:rolleyes:

[SlowLX]

Am I the only one that finds it funny the US Ship was the John McCain?

[90dfw]

Well aren't you just a fucking badass?:rolleyes:
Thats how I roll..I am king ding-a-ling around these parts.

[90dfw]

Am I the only one that finds it funny the US Ship was the John McCain?
It's named after his father or grandfather,i cant remember which.

[TrueBlueGT]

True..Maybe obama will send them a nice fruit basket with a lovely hallmark card.

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

No fruit basket. It will be another IPOD with his favorite hits on it.

[mikeb]

Perfect world: It's like the kid that keeps taunting the bully. Sooner or later the bully is going to grow tired of the taunts and will do something about it.

Obamas world: Keep talking and talking and trying to be diplomatic while appearing to the rest of the world as a weakass. Allow the enemy to grow more emboldened by the day.

[StangTamer]

I thought "Team America World Police" already took care of them?

[David]

Should have finished them off in the 50s.

[Sean88gt]

A single, well placed bullet ripping through Kim Jong il's head would stop a lot of this nonsense.

The only problem is that our president is a bitch and 'action' is a banned word in his administration. Maybe we should have KJI ask the questions that Chuck Todd did yesterday to get Barry fired up?

[bcoop]

Ror!

[Doug Hatton]

The short arm of the law....

Am I the only one that finds it funny the US Ship was the John McCain?

[cbrjames]

Man, all we need is a handful of B-2's to run a night ops mission, and tah dow, end of story.:cool:

[mustangguy289]

Why have we not bombed the shit out of them already... why do we make it look like its ok to make these threats?

[71chevellejohn]

Why not just let them have "accident" during one of their weapons tests? You know, the kind of accident in which their missiles detonate at ground level and wipe out their r+d facility, their capital, their bases, et al.

[bcoop]

Why have we not bombed the shit out of them already... why do we make it look like its ok to make these threats?

Because China has their backs, and for the next 200+ years, China owns our asses.

[Bubbaearl]

It's named after his father or grandfather,i cant remember which.

both.........

[cbrjames]

What i don't get about our dumbass president is this. With all of the NK shit going on, how come we hear nothing about him doing ANYTHING about that, and all we hear about is the damn healthcare??!@?!?!

[ozzeran]

Or the Iran bullshit.

[cbrjames]

Or the Iran bullshit.


Exactly!! Why the hell are we even bothering with that shit?!

[sig239]

prob not,but what is the almighty obama going to respond with???
If we dont do something, we are going to look like a bunch of pussies to the world..If we go in and bomb the shit out of them people will know not to fuck with us. And i mean bomb them without letting them know 3 weeks in advance thru cnn..just go there and drop a cpl million pounds of tnt everywhere..turn that shit hole into a big bowl of gook soup

He will have the UN send them a nasty letter, Hell the whole world is looking at as pussy's now. How sad is this. This boy better grow a set soon, sooner or later hes going to have to stand for something.

[ruffdaddy]

Someone's gotta get KJI to use the N word and this will all end abruptly.

[cbrjames]

Someone's gotta get KJI to use the N word and this will all end abruptly.

:haha:

[ozzeran]

Actually it would suck if S.Korea gets messed up. They have come a long way.

[sig239]

True..Maybe obama will send them a nice fruit basket with a lovely hallmark card.

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

I use his middle name osama and NEVER refer to him as president.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I use his middle name osama and NEVER refer to him as president.

His middle name is hussein :damnit1:

[Saladbar]

When you say N word do you mean "not 'merican"?

[46Tbird]

Actually it would suck if S.Korea gets messed up. They have come a long way.You mean they have a nice little economy going since we've been their defense from a N Korean invasion for 55ish years? Yeah, sure. I bet we'd be doing real well if someone was funding our military too.

[lovinfastfords]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.
Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.
The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.
The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.
"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.
The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the start of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula in state of war.
The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.
Tensions have been high since North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and then conducted its second underground atomic test on May 25.
Reacting to U.N. condemnation of that test, North Korea walked away from nuclear disarmament talks and warned it would fire a long-range missile.
North Korea has banned ships from the waters off its east coast starting Thursday through July 10 for military exercises, Japan's Coast Guard said.
South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the North may fire a Scud missile with a range of up to 310 miles (500 kilometers) or a short-range ground-to-ship missile with a range of 100 miles (160 kilometers) during the no-sail period.
A senior South Korean government official said the no-sail ban is believed connected to North Korean plans to fire short- or mid-range missiles. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.
U.S. defense and counterproliferation officials in Washington said they also expected the North to launch short- to medium-range missiles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.
South Korea will expedite the introduction of high-tech unmanned aerial surveillance systems and "bunker-buster" bombs in response to North Korea's provocations, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing unidentified ruling party members.
Meanwhile, a flurry of diplomatic efforts were under way to try getting North Korea to return to disarmament talks.
Russia's top nuclear envoy, Alexei Borodavkin, said after meeting with his South Korean counterpart that Moscow is open to other formats for discussion since Pyongyang has pulled out of formal six-nation negotiations.
In Beijing, top U.S. and Chinese defense officials also discussed North Korea. U.S. Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was heading next to Tokyo and Seoul for talks.
South Korea has proposed high-level "consultations" to discuss North Korea with the U.S., Russia, China and Japan.




thats just the navy and part of the air force now lets talk about the real weapon that gets shit done the U.S. MARINE CORPS!!!!!!!!!! we also have a nice lil stock pile to wipp that ass we just need a ride from our navy brothers ooooooooo and not to mention it does not take a act of congress to send the marines just the prez

[Sean88gt]

Because China has their backs, and for the next 200+ years, China owns our asses.

or until we as a country file the big BK and tell China 'sorry'

Eggs in one basket...

[Hollywood]

True..Maybe obama will send them a nice fruit basket with a lovely hallmark card.

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

I was thinking it was because you were lazy. Because you never post in the right forum either. Moved.

[forever_frost]

The problem with North Korea is anything worth while is in tunnels and bunkers. While doing road marches in Korea while at Camp Greaves, it was nothing to be wandering around and see a massive hole in a mountain where one of the facades broke showing the tunnel system. Then you call it in and it's closed.

We don't know where there tunnels are. However, if we hit it hard enough and constant enough, we may do some damage. But I don't think we'd get Kim Il.

[Muffrazr]

What i don't get about our dumbass president is this. With all of the NK shit going on, how come we hear nothing about him doing ANYTHING about that, and all we hear about is the damn healthcare??!@?!?!

Well, there was a little story of some type of missile defense for Hawaii, but I would imagine that was more of a knee jerk reaction implemented by a general, but barry got the recognition.

[cbrjames]

Well, there was a little story of some type of missile defense for Hawaii, but I would imagine that was more of a knee jerk reaction implemented by a general, but barry got the recognition.


Yeah, that was about it though. Speaking of Hawaii, thats where my brother is stationed, and i just asked him how things are over there right now since all this bs started, and he said everything is still cruising at a normal pace around there.

[Muffrazr]

Yeah, that was about it though. Speaking of Hawaii, thats where my brother is stationed, and i just asked him how things are over there right now since all this bs started, and he said everything is still cruising at a normal pace around there.

Yeah, even All Barack Channel only aired it for a few seconds a couple times.

I'm hoping we don't get to see "The boy who cried wolf" played out before our very eyes.

[Wario]

With what, photoshop?

[ozzeran]

You mean they have a nice little economy going since we've been their defense from a N Korean invasion for 55ish years? Yeah, sure. I bet we'd be doing real well if someone was funding our military too.

Hmm good point, oh well, least they are making good use of it, Kia is a decent car nowadays :D

[bcoop]

or until we as a country file the big BK and tell China 'solly'



Fixed.

[CoorsLightCoupe]

Watch.. IF chinky's plan works and he launches his shit at us, who wants to make bets the pussy in charge claims that it came out of nowhere with no warning and he couldnt have possibly done anything to stop it?

FBO. We should have leveled that fucking country already.

[BottleRocket]

All of this is well and good, but the main issue we need to look at is the idea of a madman with the ability to launch 1 ICBM. We are always at a state of readiness, but in order for us to deploy our force we must first be provoked. So, in order for us to invade NK we must first be fired upon. Now, maybe with Bush at the helm he may have used the boarding of the Kang Nam and the issue of war from NK as the smoking gun to invade, but with Obama, we will have to be fired upon in order for him to take action :(. So, American lives will HAVE to be lost in order for Obama to take any action what so ever. This is truly a sad time for our country :sadwavey:

Thank God for Aegis Destroyers :)

[Juiceweezl]

You guys are funny. The military is positioning to defend if necessary and then attack, but you know darn good and well that we will not fire first, no matter who is in charge.

[Sean88gt]

You guys are funny. The military is positioning to defend if necessary and then attack, but you know darn good and well that we will not fire first, no matter who is in charge.

I agree with you, but I don't think he'd react, period.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I agree with you, but I don't think he'd react, period.

I think you are wrong, if North Korea attacked the US I think Obamanamnama will take more action that you would expect him to. I dont think he is as soft as everyone thinks he is. He is still a flaming douche, dont get me wrong. I fucking hate the guy. I just dont think he is completely stupid, just partially.

[Sean88gt]

I hope you're right. A little drive-by action would be welcome.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I hope you're right. A little drive-by action would be welcome.

Me too. I dont have too high of hopes at this point, I still have fath that there is a tiny bit of smarts in everyone.

[PGreenCobra]

True..Maybe obama will send them a nice fruit basket with a lovely hallmark card.

notice how I never cap obama's name??? Its done on purpose.

Ohh your such a rebel!! :lame:

[90dfw]

Ohh your such a rebel!! :lame:
oh..your soo awesome for calling me on that.....Shit head.

[Juiceweezl]

I think you are wrong, if North Korea attacked the US I think Obamanamnama will take more action that you would expect him to. I dont think he is as soft as everyone thinks he is. He is still a flaming douche, dont get me wrong. I fucking hate the guy. I just dont think he is completely stupid, just partially.

I'll agree with this. No POTUS would let an action like that go without response or punishment. Quite simply, we're currently trying to play by the rules of the UN and using political posturing as required. The minute someone in N Korea launches a missile, you'll see our guys go wheels up to show them the way it really works.

[Paladin]

I think you are wrong, if North Korea attacked the US I think Obamanamnama will take more action that you would expect him to. I dont think he is as soft as everyone thinks he is. He is still a flaming douche, dont get me wrong. I fucking hate the guy. I just dont think he is completely stupid, just partially.

Hell, even Clinton responded to stuff using the military. He lobbed a few cruise missiles and claimed his response was appropriate. I wonder if Lewinsky had his dick in her mouth as he ordered the missilies launched? :hump:

BTW, I saw on MSNBC where they claim Clinton will go down as one of the best Presidents ever. How sad that people think a man who stained the office will be one of the greatest, but I digress from the topic of the thread.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I'll agree with this. No POTUS would let an action like that go without response or punishment. Quite simply, we're currently trying to play by the rules of the UN and using political posturing as required. The minute someone in N Korea launches a missile, you'll see our guys go wheels up to show them the way it really works.

I think this is one of the reasons we havent heard a bunch of NKorea talk spewing out of Obamahama's bung hole. That man LOVES to be heard, if you think he is ignoring the situation I think you are sadly mistaken. I have no more love for him than any of you sane guys do (not refering to liberal insanity) I think that he will step up should DPRK attack Americans. While Osama and I dont agree on policy, how we spend our cash, and the ideals America should be run by I sure as hell think he will step up when we are fired upon. Now I could totaly be wrong and Oblahma could give KJI a box set of American encoded sing along DVDs.

[Fox466]

Hell, even Clinton responded to stuff using the military. He lobbed a few cruise missiles and claimed his response was appropriate. I wonder if Lewinsky had his dick in her mouth as he ordered the missilies launched?


Hooray for million dollar missiles launched at ten dollar tents with the intent of hitting a camel in the ass!

[Buzzo]

Hooray for million dollar missiles launched at ten dollar tents with the intent of hitting a camel in the ass!
that would be kinky, might be his thing huh?

[Mustangman_2000]

This is a good litmus test for Obama.

[Paladin]

Hooray for million dollar missiles launched at ten dollar tents with the intent of hitting a camel in the ass!

Yep, you get to claim victory and all.

[564826]

North Korea is like a little kid with a toy gun tugging on his moms purse.


Let me break it down to show how badass our military is, and how easily we could turn NK into a smoking crater-

-Our navy is bigger than the rest of the world's combined
-We have 12 aircraft carriers, more than the rest of the world combined (the nearest nation has 2)
-We have 6 amphibious assault carriers just as good as britains carriers
-We us the m1 abrams tank, a combat vehicle so badass that most have been destroyed due to incompetence
-We USED to use the f15 eagle, a plane with over 100 kilss and ZERO losses, but some geniuses thought, "hey, this shit sucks" and designed the superior f22 raptor
-We have 18,169 airborne combat systems, NK has 1,778
-We have 14,997 airports, NK has 77
-We spend $515,400,000,000 on national defence, NK spends $5,500,000,000
-We have thousands of ICBMs that are maintained and ready to go with out any issues, NK may have enough spent fuel rods to make 2 nuclear weapons.

Heres another good break down-
http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

You forgot one little one, the hafnium bomb.;)

[CoorsLightCoupe]

I just hope the people in charge react quickly to something getting lobbed our way, and shoot the fucker down before it makes it halfway here. We all know we have the technology to shoot that kinda shit right out of the sky. I just hope they don't sit back and wait for it to land, just to see if it's real or not.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I just hope the people in charge react quickly to something getting lobbed our way, and shoot the fucker down before it makes it halfway here. We all know we have the technology to shoot that kinda shit right out of the sky. I just hope they don't sit back and wait for it to land, just to see if it's real or not.

Is everyone stupid or do you guys just not read the news? The missile that will be launched has a range of 4000 miles Hawaii is 4500 miles away. Im just askin here, I am more concerned on them attacking our troops in SKorea or try some suicide attack on the mainland US.

[Vertnut]

This is a good litmus test for Obama.

He has several of those in the works...

[ceyko]

I think you are wrong, if North Korea attacked the US I think Obamanamnama will take more action that you would expect him to. I dont think he is as soft as everyone thinks he is. He is still a flaming douche, dont get me wrong. I fucking hate the guy. I just dont think he is completely stupid, just partially.

Like Clinton and the Balkans, he will be forced to on many different levels. That's the only reason why.

Fucking Bosnians love Clinton cause he bailed them out. Little do they know he really did not want to do so. If it was REALLY up to Clinton, they all could've killed each other.

[ceyko]

Actually it would suck if S.Korea gets messed up. They have come a long way.

Not to mention that the troops they send to support ours in places like Iraq - truly do work. From what I saw, at least half the other country's troops don't do anything other then eat US sponsored food, work out in our gyms, work in our building and otherwise leech our stuff. All the while their governments claim to support us. Bastards.

[Fox466]

Is everyone stupid or do you guys just not read the news? The missile that will be launched has a range of 4000 miles Hawaii is 4500 miles away. Im just askin here, I am more concerned on them attacking our troops in SKorea or try some suicide attack on the mainland US.

Would you be willing to bet your life on that missile not being one the Chinese snuck in the back door to them? Do you know with 100% certainty that missile won't make it? You don't believe everything you read on the internet do you? How far is 500 miles to a missile? Another couple minutes?

The stupid people are the ones that don't look at all angles. The stupid people are the ones that think it can't happen to them when it for damned sure can. Just sayin' you should keep the old "never say never" in mind...

[ceyko]

No one would ever fly a bunch of planes into the pentagon and world trade center...

I don't care if they fire it 3000 miles towards Hawaii, that's f'ed up if they do.

[Paladin]

Is everyone stupid or do you guys just not read the news? The missile that will be launched has a range of 4000 miles Hawaii is 4500 miles away. Im just askin here, I am more concerned on them attacking our troops in SKorea or try some suicide attack on the mainland US.

You are the epitome of the person with the pre-9/11 mentality. It can't happen to us, this is the USA!

[forever_frost]

I'm pretty sure if you adjust the trajectory, you could get another couple hundred miles off that missile. It's frightening

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Would you be willing to bet your life on that missile not being one the Chinese snuck in the back door to them? Do you know with 100% certainty that missile won't make it? You don't believe everything you read on the internet do you? How far is 500 miles to a missile? Another couple minutes?

The stupid people are the ones that don't look at all angles. The stupid people are the ones that think it can't happen to them when it for damned sure can. Just sayin' you should keep the old "never say never" in mind...

No I would not bet my life that they couldnt get another 500 miles out of whatever they are launching. No I do not know that it wont make it. Hell no I do not believe much of what I read on the web or hear on the news.

Did I say it could never happen? Nope. Did I say that I havent concedered that the AP has there facts wrong? Nope. Did I say that "I dont think it can happen to us"? Nope.

I was simply pointing out the fact that everyone is getting so worked up, "OMG, its going to hit Hawaii". My point is we dont know what the fuck is going to happen, thats it. But I think that assuming that it WILL hit Hawaii is about as smart as NKorea launching one at us in the first place. I will say that it does concern me that they are even thinking about launching it in our general direction. It concerns me that they are threatening nuclear war on the US. It also concerns me that they have threatenedto wipe us off the map when we have two wars we are currently trying to win. I know they wont succeed with the destruction of the USA, but if they even try it is scary enough. The shear number of innocent American lives lost would be astounding.

You are the epitome of the person with the pre-9/11 mentality. It can't happen to us, this is the USA!

I didnt say it couldnt happen to us, I simply referred to the news article stating the ranges of the missile and the distance of Hawaii from the launch. If NKorea wants to hit us, they will. 9/11 was a huge wake up for me in terms of our vulnerability. Keep in mind I turned 18 the day after 9/11 so I was still rather naive. Thanks for grouping me into the people that keep there head burred in the sand after one post, you know me all so well. Get to know me a bit better before you accuse me of being naive.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I'm pretty sure if you adjust the trajectory, you could get another couple hundred miles off that missile. It's frightening

I am pretty sure it dosent quite work that way. I may be wrong, I often am.

[forever_frost]

I don't know either. Does sound logical though, but I'm probably wrong. I'll let our tech guys tell me, I'm just a grunt.

[ceyko]

I am pretty sure it dosent quite work that way. I may be wrong, I often am.

Does it matter? You might be a bit too far away for me to hit you with the rock I just threw at you, but you're gonna be pissed about it anyway. Now you don't know if I'll hit ya the next time or otherwise find a way to whack you.

[46Tbird]

Have a dozen F-22s flyover Pyongyang...

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Does it matter? You might be a bit too far away for me to hit you with the rock I just threw at you, but you're gonna be pissed about it anyway. Now you don't know if I'll hit ya the next time or otherwise find a way to whack you.

Holy hell, I said I dont think that changing the trajectory will give it another 500 miles. Did I say I wasnt going to be pissed if they splash a missile 500 miles off our coast? I understand your point and I feel the same way as you, just merely saying I think its a bit more complicated than shooting it a bit higher.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Have a dozen F-22s flyover Pyongyang...

THAT would start a war in a hurry. If I am not mistaken they have a shit ton of AA artillery.

[46Tbird]

THAT would start a war in a hurry. If I am not mistaken they have a shit ton of AA artillery.I'd like to see them shoot something they can't track on radar and don't have advance notice for a visual intercept. ;)

[cbrjames]

Have a dozen B-2s flyover Pyongyang...

fixed

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I'd like to see them shoot something they can't track on radar and don't have advance notice for a visual intercept. ;)

It can't happen to us, this is the USA!

:wave:

[BP]

Hey look, our ICBMs still work!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_re_us/us_missile_test

Just for reference it can carry a 300 kiloton warhead 8100 miles away at 15k mph. Meaning we could incinerate all of Pyongyang in less than half an hour with a single missile.

[forever_frost]

I'm thinking an "oops" moment should come on. Some general leaning on a panel accidentally pushes the button

[CoorsLightCoupe]

Hey look, our ICBMs still work!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_on_re_us/us_missile_test

Just for reference it can carry a 300 kiloton warhead 8100 miles away at 15k mph. Meaning we could incinerate all of Pyongyang in less than half an hour with a single missile.

Bitchin. That means by the time NOKO's firecracker hits any part of us, we'd already have the end of their asses on its way to them. :banana:

[BP]

I'm thinking an "oops" moment should come on. Some general leaning on a panel accidentally pushes the button

There isn't any media around NK, I wouldn't be suprised at all if there is an accident while testing one of their warheads one day. You can't use a regular cruise missile since they'd be spotted but a conventional warheaded ICBM going Mach23 might just do the trick. Seeing as how they fly up to 700 miles in altitude and pretty much drop straight now it'd be difficult to prove we had anything to do with it.

And to think, our missiles that are declassified (minuteman 3) were deployed in 1970. I bet 40 years worth of R&D could come up with some even better weapons systems.