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turbostang
06-23-2009, 10:32 PM
It's your time, I need revenge after our race at the cruise.

(When I launched, the car stumbled - I let off of the gas to keep from sending the carb into orbit)


I'm such a nice guy, I'll give you the hit....

(not this weekend - we'll be in Ardmore most likely, next weekend?)

BoostedGT
06-23-2009, 10:34 PM
Oh snap.

Jared Ezzell
06-23-2009, 10:37 PM
It's your time, I need revenge after our race at the cruise.

(When I launched, the car stumbled - I let off of the gas to keep from sending the carb into orbit)


I'm such a nice guy, I'll give you the hit....

(not this weekend - we'll be in Ardmore most likely, next weekend?)


reid with the slow ls1 on spray?

turbostang
06-23-2009, 10:38 PM
reid with the slow ls1 on spray?

That's the one.

FRANCISCO308
06-23-2009, 10:38 PM
reid with the slow ls1 on spray?

No the other Reid with the slow Ls1:tongue:

CatDaddy
06-24-2009, 10:39 AM
It's your time, I need revenge after our race at the cruise.

(not this weekend - we'll be in Ardmore most likely, next weekend?)

I just talked to Reid ( he doesn't have a computer right now) and all he wants to know is, when and where? :D He says he's game for a rematch! Kennedale?

Bad03Cobra
06-24-2009, 10:52 AM
:popcorn:

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 11:07 AM
Hey brooks. I know you switched intakes on the car but how did that dual plane act on it? Did it run ok with it?

turbostang
06-24-2009, 11:25 AM
I just talked to Reid ( he doesn't have a computer right now) and all he wants to know is, when and where? :D He says he's game for a rematch! Kennedale?

It will not be this coming weekend, although the car is pretty much ready. All I have to do is switch the fuel pump.

Hey brooks. I know you switched intakes on the car but how did that dual plane act on it? Did it run ok with it?


I dyno'd it like it was when I got it, and it ran ok - but I felt it was missing something. Subsequently, I broke it at the track the next day. (when the dogbones came off of the lifters)

I took it apart, fixed it, polished the cam where the lifters spun and changed intakes all at the same time. The cam was in 2 teeth off as well.

It's hard to say exactly how much difference the intakes made - but it picked up 6MPH on motor and a half second between fixing the cam and changing the intake.

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 11:36 AM
It will not be this coming weekend, although the car is pretty much ready. All I have to do is switch the fuel pump.




I dyno'd it like it was when I got it, and it ran ok - but I felt it was missing something. Subsequently, I broke it at the track the next day. (when the dogbones came off of the lifters)

I took it apart, fixed it, polished the cam where the lifters spun and changed intakes all at the same time. The cam was in 2 teeth off as well.

It's hard to say exactly how much difference the intakes made - but it picked up 6MPH on motor and a half second between fixing the cam and changing the intake.

That's a pretty big difference. I was more wondering if it burned oil. I still don't know what made my motor burn oil. It stopped when I put the E7s on and the machine shop said there was nothing wrong with my canfields.

turbostang
06-24-2009, 01:04 PM
That's a pretty big difference. I was more wondering if it burned oil. I still don't know what made my motor burn oil. It stopped when I put the E7s on and the machine shop said there was nothing wrong with my canfields.

Nope, no burning oil.

Yours was more likely related to a bad seal or guide.

BUBBASTIFF
06-24-2009, 01:12 PM
all right another callout for reid. I just might have to show up and watch this one. Hey Jared whats up with the coil overs you said your buddy might sell me for the rear of my car....let me know..stop by or something.

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 04:20 PM
Nope, no burning oil.

Yours was more likely related to a bad seal or guide.

That first time when the valves touched the pistons could have messed one of those up right?

turbostang
06-24-2009, 04:32 PM
That first time when the valves touched the pistons could have messed one of those up right?

Yeah, it could have hosed the guide more than anything. If it slightly bent it, it wore the guide funny.. and leaked oil on top of the valve.

Beenfetchedlately
06-24-2009, 04:40 PM
That's a pretty big difference. I was more wondering if it burned oil. I still don't know what made my motor burn oil. It stopped when I put the E7s on and the machine shop said there was nothing wrong with my canfields.
Im more interested in who installed the cam 2 teeth off..LMAO

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 04:44 PM
Im more interested in who installed the cam 2 teeth off..LMAO

Umm 92notch put the cam in not me. That motor was out of his black hatch. That is my old cam though. Which reminds me. DOes that cam lope at all after it is warmed up? When it was in my car it sounded stock after it warmed up a little bit.

turbostang
06-24-2009, 05:46 PM
I don't know who installed the cam - Michael said he put it back the same way he took it out. I don't know - that's between you guys.

I can promise you - it picked up about 60RWHP, maybe more.

To me, it sounds about like a B cam. It pulls pretty good to about 7,000. The car is already WAY different than it was - and now, it has 10" wheels, and 2 gears. Soon it will get a new exhaust system.

OrangeChevyII
06-24-2009, 08:54 PM
Reid..................lol

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 10:45 PM
I don't know who installed the cam - Michael said he put it back the same way he took it out. I don't know - that's between you guys.

I can promise you - it picked up about 60RWHP, maybe more.

To me, it sounds about like a B cam. It pulls pretty good to about 7,000. The car is already WAY different than it was - and now, it has 10" wheels, and 2 gears. Soon it will get a new exhaust system.

He put it back in the same way it came out? huh? I had nothing to do with the motor that is in it right now. Michael kilgore (turboford) built that motor for sleeperls years ago.

BoostedGT
06-24-2009, 10:49 PM
Michael kilgore (turboford) built that motor for sleeperls years ago.

That explains everything! :35:

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 10:51 PM
That explains everything! :35:

Even then he did not put the cam in that is in it now. 92notch swapped me cams out of my old motor to run in the current motor brooks is now running.

BoostedGT
06-24-2009, 10:59 PM
Even then he did not put the cam in that is in it now. 92notch swapped me cams out of my old motor to run in the current motor brooks is now running.

He didn't do any wiring on that car did he?

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 11:06 PM
He didn't do any wiring on that car did he?

The car was a 4 banger conversion when I bought it already converted to a 5.0l. I don't know who did any of that work. The only wiring we did was taking the fuel injection stuff off and an msd box and that also did not come with the car. I have heard the wiring is messed up and I did all of it and the fuel lines were to big.

BoostedGT
06-24-2009, 11:12 PM
The car was a 4 banger conversion when I bought it already converted to a 5.0l. I don't know who did any of that work. The only wiring we did was taking the fuel injection stuff off and an msd box and that also did not come with the car. I have heard the wiring is messed up and I did all of it and the fuel lines were to big.

Well I saw what was on the car when Brooks got it and holy fuck that thing would of blown up had someone hit the bottle... Oh and good thing on wiring. I've seen some work come from over that way. Holy butt-connector!

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 11:15 PM
Well I saw what was on the car when Brooks got it and holy fuck that thing would of blown up had someone hit the bottle... Oh and good thing on wiring. I've seen some work come from over that way. Holy butt-connector!

So what part of the wiring? There wasn't much wiring involved in what I did. I certainly didn't have anything to do with any nitrous wiring. I never had nitrous on the car. Like I said when I got rid of it there wasn't anything in the car.

BoostedGT
06-24-2009, 11:17 PM
So what part of the wiring? There wasn't much wiring involved in what I did. I certainly didn't have anything to do with any nitrous wiring. I never had nitrous on the car. Like I said when I got rid of it there wasn't anything in the car.

I wasn't talking about the wiring when I mentioned it blowing up... The fuel system on the other hand had some... umm... "issues".

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 11:22 PM
I wasn't talking about the wiring when I mentioned it blowing up... The fuel system on the other hand had some... umm... "issues".

92notch changed it all up when he got it. I don't know if you mean it had some issues when brooks got it or when 92notch got it. It was all still a work in progress when I got rid of it. I ran a pickup tube/fuel filter inside the gas tank where the old fuel pump went. Me and my cousin made a little plate from sheet metal that I thought worked pretty good to keep any foreign objects out and I think we had a breather on it too. Then the fuel line came out and ran down the driver side subframe connector and that went to a mechanical fuel pump. After that it wrapped around to the carb.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a263/tamestang/DSC_0117.jpg?t=1245902916

BoostedGT
06-24-2009, 11:25 PM
92notch changed it all up when he got it. I don't know if you mean it had some issues when brooks got it or when 92notch got it. It was all still a work in progress when I got rid of it. I ran a pickup tube/fuel filter inside the gas tank and that came out and ran down the subframe connector and I had a mechanical fuel pump on it.

Didn't you read my post? I said when Brooks got it there some issues. Had someone sprayed that motor it probably would of melted alot of shit. No big deal, its all fixed now. :banana:

sleeperLS
06-24-2009, 11:29 PM
let me say this. That motor from the time we fired it up rill the time i sold the car always ran good. Hell everyone else i know had blown up about 6 motors and mine was still kicking. Never had to take a valve cover off. Glad you got it running good brooks. I still dont know why he changed cams. I liked the lunati 51014 that was in it.

Super Coupe
06-24-2009, 11:35 PM
Didn't you read my post? I said when Brooks got it there some issues. Had someone sprayed that motor it probably would of melted alot of shit. No big deal, its all fixed now. :banana:

Well I am glad everything is all roses now!

Sam88Gta
06-25-2009, 12:26 AM
That explains everything! :35:

I hear you build motors now.


Reid isnt in the position right now to be racing his hotrod.

Saladbar
06-25-2009, 02:11 AM
reid with the slow ls1 on spray?

That's the one.

And speaking of slow, we still need to line them up.

You can borrow my LP frame if you beat me, or better yet... If you lose, put a "I lost to a trailblazer in a drag race" sticker across the back glass. Even in old english font, makes no difference to me! :)

turbostang
06-25-2009, 09:00 AM
LOL. Kyle, that pickup was bad news man. It would not hold fuel pressure no matter what you did to it - because it was drawing the fuel UP the hose to the pump.

Fuel lines too big? Shit. I am taking that stuff off of it now, and replacing it with a
-10 Feed and -10 Return!

Like I said, I am not sure of the cam - Michael just said it was put back in the way you ran it. I am not sure if he meant the way it came out of your motor or what. He just mentioned that it was "degreed" by who ever built it before - Kilgore?

Either way, whether it was a mistake or intentional - it cost the car a LOT of power. I don't care one way or the other - it's the way I want it now. No biggie.

Now, the wiring.. OMG.

Nothing on the car is the same as when I got it. Fuel System, fuel tank, wiring, nitrous, exhaust, trans, rear end, suspension, interior, wheels/tires etc.... all changed. The engine is the closest to the way it was when I got it - Now, it has a different intake, cam degreed, etc..

Now, it runs pretty good. ;)

turboten5
06-25-2009, 12:13 PM
LOL. Kyle, that pickup was bad news man. It would not hold fuel pressure no matter what you did to it - because it was drawing the fuel UP the hose to the pump.

Fuel lines too big? Shit. I am taking that stuff off of it now, and replacing it with a
-10 Feed and -10 Return!

Like I said, I am not sure of the cam - Michael just said it was put back in the way you ran it. I am not sure if he meant the way it came out of your motor or what. He just mentioned that it was "degreed" by who ever built it before - Kilgore?

Either way, whether it was a mistake or intentional - it cost the car a LOT of power. I don't care one way or the other - it's the way I want it now. No biggie.

Now, the wiring.. OMG.

Nothing on the car is the same as when I got it. Fuel System, fuel tank, wiring, nitrous, exhaust, trans, rear end, suspension, interior, wheels/tires etc.... all changed. The engine is the closest to the way it was when I got it - Now, it has a different intake, cam degreed, etc..

Now, it runs pretty good. ;)

Brooks the cam was never degreed in that engine, it was installed @ 0., it was built the way HE wanted it and he was happy, if it would of been for all the power he could get the heads would have been CNCd etc..

fordracer
06-25-2009, 01:15 PM
It will not be this coming weekend, although the car is pretty much ready. All I have to do is switch the fuel pump.




I dyno'd it like it was when I got it, and it ran ok - but I felt it was missing something. Subsequently, I broke it at the track the next day. (when the dogbones came off of the lifters)

I took it apart, fixed it, polished the cam where the lifters spun and changed intakes all at the same time. The cam was in 2 teeth off as well.

It's hard to say exactly how much difference the intakes made - but it picked up 6MPH on motor and a half second between fixing the cam and changing the intake.

hey i had a rpm intake i put on a little bigger nitrous set up 125hp to 150hp and it was showing small signs of detination in #6 cylinder only, silver specs on plugs i had the timing @35 anitial ,6degrees pulled out on retard i have now just put on i vic jr intake but have not had time to test it yet did u have any problems like this with your rpm intake 6&7 always ran a little leaner on mine even on motor !

turbostang
06-25-2009, 02:24 PM
hey i had a rpm intake i put on a little bigger nitrous set up 125hp to 150hp and it was showing small signs of detination in #6 cylinder only, silver specs on plugs i had the timing @35 anitial ,6degrees pulled out on retard i have now just put on i vic jr intake but have not had time to test it yet did u have any problems like this with your rpm intake 6&7 always ran a little leaner on mine even on motor !

Never had a problem like that. It only made about 5 dyno pulls and one or two track passes. Sounds like you had too much timing.. We ran 10* retard and 34* initial fwiw.

Super Coupe
06-25-2009, 04:06 PM
LOL. Kyle, that pickup was bad news man. It would not hold fuel pressure no matter what you did to it - because it was drawing the fuel UP the hose to the pump.

Fuel lines too big? Shit. I am taking that stuff off of it now, and replacing it with a
-10 Feed and -10 Return!

Like I said, I am not sure of the cam - Michael just said it was put back in the way you ran it. I am not sure if he meant the way it came out of your motor or what. He just mentioned that it was "degreed" by who ever built it before - Kilgore?

Either way, whether it was a mistake or intentional - it cost the car a LOT of power. I don't care one way or the other - it's the way I want it now. No biggie.

Now, the wiring.. OMG.

Nothing on the car is the same as when I got it. Fuel System, fuel tank, wiring, nitrous, exhaust, trans, rear end, suspension, interior, wheels/tires etc.... all changed. The engine is the closest to the way it was when I got it - Now, it has a different intake, cam degreed, etc..

Now, it runs pretty good. ;)

I had a gauge on mine trying to trouble shoot and it held 9 psi fuel pressure with that mechanical fuel pump. I lined the cam up dot to dot in mine. It still ran good even with the stock e7s on it. It would pull harder than my current coupe does right now even with 273s. It's all good. I am glad you got it to your liking. Maybe I should let you have my coupe for a couple weeks and you can tweak on it some after I get it back from paint!

BoostedGT
06-25-2009, 05:49 PM
I hear you build motors now.


I'm guessing this is a stab of some sorts... I can and have built motors in the past. Not much to them.

fordracer
06-26-2009, 11:43 AM
Never had a problem like that. It only made about 5 dyno pulls and one or two track passes. Sounds like you had too much timing.. We ran 10* retard and 34* initial fwiw.

were those timing settings with similar nitrous set up i have edelbrock performer rpm kit 150hp 68*fuel 68*nos 6.5psi fuel pressure. p.s thanx brooks

junior
06-26-2009, 12:03 PM
were those timing settings with similar nitrous set up i have edelbrock performer rpm kit 150hp 68*fuel 68*nos 6.5psi fuel pressure. p.s thanx brooks

also mention you dont have a stand alone for the nitrous so thats why the fuel is at 6.5


<--doesnt know what his talking about but hey it can make a difference???

gloomleader
06-26-2009, 12:16 PM
were those timing settings with similar nitrous set up i have edelbrock performer rpm kit 150hp 68*fuel 68*nos 6.5psi fuel pressure. p.s thanx brooks

i dont know abt the edelbrock kits but I know the NOS kits always have more Spray then fuel.... As far as the jet sizes...

fordracer
06-26-2009, 02:19 PM
i dont know abt the edelbrock kits but I know the NOS kits always have more Spray then fuel.... As far as the jet sizes...

the new edelbrock setups are like the speedtech kits they jet the fuel and nitrous the same and increase the fuel pressure to 6.5 instead of 5.5 psi thats what was in the instructions. im starting to question this theory though i might run a little smaller nos jet if any one is familiar with these setups let me know your imput! not trying to still your thread brooks sorry. p.s gloomleader i think u mean more fuel than spray not more spray than fuel, i hope!

turbostang
06-26-2009, 02:31 PM
My numbers were on a 150 shot, fwiw.

Nitrous is nitrous, no matter WHO's kit it is. Having said that, Each manufacturer uses a different naming scheme on their jet sizes. I.e. NOS #69, is not necessarily the same as NX's #69.

We set my car up for 950# bottle pressure, and for the timing - we had a 10* retard on a 34* base, but it gained no power there, so we dropped it back to 32* base. We ran flowing fuel pressure at 6.2 psi from what I remember.

All I was saying is that on a 125-150 shot, you'd need to be in the neighborhood of 8-12* retard - lower, ESPECIALLY if you are running iron heads.

garage sale
06-26-2009, 02:59 PM
hey brooks, I have some question on a turbo car, can I get a phone number?

thanks, tom

fordracer
06-26-2009, 03:00 PM
My numbers were on a 150 shot, fwiw.

Nitrous is nitrous, no matter WHO's kit it is. Having said that, Each manufacturer uses a different naming scheme on their jet sizes. I.e. NOS #69, is not necessarily the same as NX's #69.

We set my car up for 950# bottle pressure, and for the timing - we had a 10* retard on a 34* base, but it gained no power there, so we dropped it back to 32* base. We ran flowing fuel pressure at 6.2 psi from what I remember.

All I was saying is that on a 125-150 shot, you'd need to be in the neighborhood of 8-12* retard - lower, ESPECIALLY if you are running iron heads.

thanx man i appreciate your help kind of a hairy situation to deal with i think your right i just had to much timing in it i put a 8* degree chip in it and im gonna pull my base timing down to 32* and let it rip! hey while im thinking about it who would u recomend i buy a spec stage 3 clutch from jegs and summit dont have them i dont think?

turbostang
06-26-2009, 03:03 PM
thanx man i appreciate your help kind of a hairy situation to deal with i think your right i just had to much timing in it i put a 8* degree chip in it and im gonna pull my base timing down to 32* and let it rip! hey while im thinking about it who would u recomend i buy a spec stage 3 clutch from jegs and summit dont have them i dont think?


Keep in mind, those are suggestions - I'd advise you get it on the dyno, or on the track with some good tuning eyes helping you. (if you are not 100% confident)


Not sure on the clutch, I am pretty sure one of them has that clutch. I seem to remember just looking it up on there.

racinreid
07-02-2009, 01:44 PM
Keep in mind, those are suggestions - I'd advise you get it on the dyno, or on the track with some good tuning eyes helping you. (if you are not 100% confident)


Not sure on the clutch, I am pretty sure one of them has that clutch. I seem to remember just looking it up on there.This thang got a little off topic....We talkin friday the 3rd at Kennabelly or you got a better plan....

turbostang
07-02-2009, 03:27 PM
This thang got a little off topic....We talkin friday the 3rd at Kennabelly or you got a better plan....

I got the front end alingned today, I've been driving it around, so barring any problems - I think we are good for tomorrow night - the 3rd.

Slow Five-O
07-02-2009, 03:43 PM
:)

BUBBASTIFF
07-02-2009, 07:28 PM
vegas bound baby...I will be thinkin of you guys......ok maybe not..

CatDaddy
07-03-2009, 12:54 PM
I got the front end alingned today, I've been driving it around, so barring any problems - I think we are good for tomorrow night - the 3rd.

Reid says he'll be there tonight around 7:30 to 8:00. He'll want to let the car cool down a bit. :burnout:

turbostang
07-03-2009, 02:03 PM
Reid says he'll be there tonight around 7:30 to 8:00. He'll want to let the car cool down a bit. :burnout:

No problemo, I'll be there earlier than that - I have to try to get carb jetted since I changed fuel pumps.

turbostang
07-04-2009, 01:08 AM
Reid showed just as he said he would, I gave him the hit and caught up to him at about ~200-300ft and it got ugly from there. It was the FIRST pass on the bottle since the trans swap and tire change. Two completely different kinds of cars, but it was a good race.

Thanks for showing up Reid.

Now, the car goes in sleep mode for a few weeks. ;)

Stangin4Lyfe
07-04-2009, 06:20 AM
Reid showed just as he said he would, I gave him the hit and caught up to him at about ~200-300ft and it got ugly from there. It was the FIRST pass on the bottle since the trans swap and tire change. Two completely different kinds of cars, but it was a good race.

Thanks for showing up Reid.

Now, the car goes in sleep mode for a few weeks. ;)

What did you end up running?
I am guessing you went a PG with 28's?

turbostang
07-04-2009, 08:07 AM
What did you end up running?
I am guessing you went a PG with 28's?


Yeah, it has a powerglide and 275's on it now. I couldn't believe it, but the converter was actually a bit too tight.

It ran 3 7.80 passes in a row. ;)

Stangin4Lyfe
07-04-2009, 10:17 AM
Yeah, it has a powerglide and 275's on it now. I couldn't believe it, but the converter was actually a bit too tight.

It ran 3 7.80 passes in a row. ;)

7.8's and you walked an ls1 on the jug?

turbostang
07-04-2009, 11:19 AM
7.8's and you walked an ls1 on the jug?

Yup, you don't think I'd put all my cards on the table do you?
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slo895.0
07-04-2009, 12:48 PM
Yup, you don't think I'd put all my cards on the table do you?
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its not you thats shocking, i would imagine that LS1 should be around a 7.6 or so.

FRANCISCO308
07-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Yeah, it has a powerglide and 275's on it now. I couldn't believe it, but the converter was actually a bit too tight.

It ran 3 6.80 passes in a row. ;)

fixed

racinreid
07-04-2009, 01:49 PM
Reid showed just as he said he would, I gave him the hit and caught up to him at about ~200-300ft and it got ugly from there. It was the FIRST pass on the bottle since the trans swap and tire change. Two completely different kinds of cars, but it was a good race.

Thanks for showing up Reid.

Now, the car goes in sleep mode for a few weeks. ;)Good run I knew you were gonna catch up just did not know when...I think I would be faster with the stock cam...I put a hot cam in and actually hurt overall hp. but got a nice lope & very nice street manners... The stall picked it back up a little...so maybe after the long tubes and switch back to a wet system we can try again.....have a good one......

turbostang
07-04-2009, 01:56 PM
fixed

Not even close.

Good run I knew you were gonna catch up just did not know when...I think I would be faster with the stock cam...I put a hot cam in and actually hurt overall hp. but got a nice lope & very nice street manners... The stall picked it back up a little...so maybe after the long tubes and switch back to a wet system we can try again.....have a good one......


Thanks man, I am glad you could make it. I was not kidding when I said that was the first pass on the bottle, 'glide and radials. It ran better than I thought.

Next time out, I won't have a bottle. :(

racinreid
07-04-2009, 01:58 PM
7.8's and you walked an ls1 on the jug?

We were both on the sauce but mine is 8.2's on motor w/100 dry...I have only sprayed mine 3 times but did get a new best of 7.40 at 94 but he drug me...I still have manifolds and stock y pipe on car,its killin it....and made more power with a wet system....sprayin through mass air seems to have limits....
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racinreid
07-04-2009, 02:00 PM
Not even close.




Thanks man, I am glad you could make it. I was not kidding when I said that was the first pass on the bottle, 'glide and radials. It ran better than I thought.

Next time out, I won't have a bottle. :(got ya...

turbostang
07-04-2009, 04:22 PM
We were both on the sauce but mine is 8.2's on motor w/100 dry...I have only sprayed mine 3 times but did get a new best of 7.40 at 94 but he drug me...I still have manifolds and stock y pipe on car,its killin it....and made more power with a wet system....sprayin through mass air seems to have limits....
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I ran a BEST of 8.02 on motor right before you got there. :(

FRANCISCO308
07-04-2009, 05:36 PM
Not even close.




Thanks man, I am glad you could make it. I was not kidding when I said that was the first pass on the bottle, 'glide and radials. It ran better than I thought.

Next time out, I won't have a bottle. :(

even better:firedevil: