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bcoop
06-22-2009, 11:30 AM
I didn't see it, but I heard a commercial for DirecTV last night while moving some shit around in another room. I didn't catch the whole thing, either. However, I swear the commercial said they broadcast in 1080p.



Can anyone verify that they have started broadcasting in 1080p? I seriously doubt it, and think I missed something, but if so, it's time to switch.

jakesford
06-22-2009, 11:35 AM
I didn't see it, but I heard a commercial for DirecTV last night while moving some shit around in another room. I didn't catch the whole thing, either. However, I swear the commercial said they broadcast in 1080p.



Can anyone verify that they have started broadcasting in 1080p? I seriously doubt it, and think I missed something, but if so, it's time to switch.

Its just for movies...

0 GT 2
06-22-2009, 11:35 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=directv+1080p

crmarin
06-22-2009, 02:16 PM
Only on certain pay-per-view movies and events.

BP
06-22-2009, 05:05 PM
You can download 1080p programming but not through the satellite.

Juiceweezl
06-22-2009, 06:28 PM
C'mon, bcoop. You got more than that.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3720002

Badass2000gt
06-22-2009, 06:30 PM
Only on movies, and some sport event. At least that is what the guy told me.

Yellowstang
06-22-2009, 08:33 PM
As previously mentioned, only certain movies you download. if you decide to switch to them, let me know. We'll o the "Refer a Friend" and each get $100 off a bill!

90GT50
06-22-2009, 09:59 PM
On compressed signal through copper wiring? woohoo. Can you get fios in your area, Brent?

jluv
06-23-2009, 09:17 AM
Dish has been doing the same thing for a while now.

Buzzo
06-23-2009, 09:20 AM
Dish has been doing the same thing for a while now.
dish sucks. Theyre the Chrysler Corp of TV programming.

jluv
06-23-2009, 10:00 AM
dish sucks. Theyre the Chrysler Corp of TV programming.

I couldn't disagree with you more. They have more HD channels than anyone else. That alone is the deciding factor for me. I also like their guide/menu a lot better than any other I've used. The customer service is terrible, but I've managed to get what I want from them.

What do you dislike about Dish?

90GT50
06-23-2009, 10:15 AM
Dish has been doing the same thing for a while now.
Anyone over copper is going to be a compressed signal, fios has more HD channels than dish, btw.

Buzzo
06-23-2009, 10:20 AM
I couldn't disagree with you more. They have more HD channels than anyone else. That alone is the deciding factor for me. I also like their guide/menu a lot better than any other I've used. The customer service is terrible, but I've managed to get what I want from them.

What do you dislike about Dish?
Theyre a horrible company. Poorly ran. Customer service is terrible! Their equipment is just now getting better. For the past 10 years their receivers have been junk. If you ever cancel Dish, when you mail in your old boxes for the lease return, you better write those tracking numbers down.

I was a dish customer for 4 years, I was happy with their programming, but when something goes wrong goodluck trying to find someone in the US to talk to.

BP
06-23-2009, 10:36 AM
What do you dislike about Dish?

A website that doesn't work for anything, including paying your bill. Complete and total lack of customer service in attempting to resolve any issues with paying the bill.

My HD DVR receiver would come up at midnight everynight to download updates and it's as noisy as any PC I've ever had. Great in the living room, not so great in a bedroom.

The menus and TV guides took forever to change screens. It'd literally take 5 seconds to respond after pushing a button on the remote. This was on every Dish receiver I had, not just the DVR one. It doesn't sound like much but it was annoying as hell.

Oh the install was my favorite part. Their guys cut my phone line since it was round and they though it was coax, since I no longer had a phone they couldn't activate the systems. After about 4 hours of figuring how that it was their fault they "fixed" it with some butt connectors on an outside cable. After this the system worked great as long as the sun was out and the wind wasn't blowing. After 4 visits from a tech they finally figured out that on the initial install they left a connector loose at the LNB.

BP
06-23-2009, 10:43 AM
Theyre a horrible company. Poorly ran. Customer service is terrible! Their equipment is just now getting better. For the past 10 years their receivers have been junk. If you ever cancel Dish, when you mail in your old boxes for the lease return, you better write those tracking numbers down.


Oh yeah I forgot about that part. It's nice to be closing on your house and have a random $780 withdrawal for Dish equipment that you've already tried sending back for 2 weeks but were only sent one box for two receivers. It took a month to get the credit back, so of course in the mean time I had to borrow the additional money from my dad so I could cover closing costs.

jluv
06-23-2009, 10:45 AM
Anyone over copper is going to be a compressed signal

The picture is incredible.

fios has more HD channels than dish, btw.

No, they don't, actually. I have heard good and bad about Fios. Dish still has more HD channels available though.

jluv
06-23-2009, 10:46 AM
Theyre a horrible company. Poorly ran. Customer service is terrible! Their equipment is just now getting better. For the past 10 years their receivers have been junk. If you ever cancel Dish, when you mail in your old boxes for the lease return, you better write those tracking numbers down.

I was a dish customer for 4 years, I was happy with their programming, but when something goes wrong goodluck trying to find someone in the US to talk to.

Ya, their customer service has been shit. I have heard the same thing about all of the other companies, though.

Buzzo
06-23-2009, 10:48 AM
A website that doesn't work for anything, including paying your bill. Complete and total lack of customer service in attempting to resolve any issues with paying the bill.

My HD DVR receiver would come up at midnight everynight to download updates and it's as noisy as any PC I've ever had. Great in the living room, not so great in a bedroom.

The menus and TV guides took forever to change screens. It'd literally take 5 seconds to respond after pushing a button on the remote. This was on every Dish receiver I had, not just the DVR one. It doesn't sound like much but it was annoying as hell.

Oh the install was my favorite part. Their guys cut my phone line since it was round and they though it was coax, since I no longer had a phone they couldn't activate the systems. After about 4 hours of figuring how that it was their fault they "fixed" it with some butt connectors on an outside cable. After this the system worked great as long as the sun was out and the wind wasn't blowing. After 4 visits from a tech they finally figured out that on the initial install they left a connector loose at the LNB.
oh their installers are idiots. When I had my dish 1000 installed to pick up HD channels, they came out 6 times. Either they forgot something, something wasnt on the work order, or didnt know what they were doing. Its a complete mess.

BTW if any of you dish subscribers have any problems at all. This is their resolution # they use for people about to file a complaint on BBB. These guys will approve anything! There at the end, instead of calling in to speak to some lady in India or the Philippines I would just call this # directly and they would iron shit out asap.

1-888 826-8137

jluv
06-23-2009, 10:49 AM
A website that doesn't work for anything, including paying your bill. Complete and total lack of customer service in attempting to resolve any issues with paying the bill.

My HD DVR receiver would come up at midnight everynight to download updates and it's as noisy as any PC I've ever had. Great in the living room, not so great in a bedroom.

The menus and TV guides took forever to change screens. It'd literally take 5 seconds to respond after pushing a button on the remote. This was on every Dish receiver I had, not just the DVR one. It doesn't sound like much but it was annoying as hell.

Oh the install was my favorite part. Their guys cut my phone line since it was round and they though it was coax, since I no longer had a phone they couldn't activate the systems. After about 4 hours of figuring how that it was their fault they "fixed" it with some butt connectors on an outside cable. After this the system worked great as long as the sun was out and the wind wasn't blowing. After 4 visits from a tech they finally figured out that on the initial install they left a connector loose at the LNB.

Man, sounds like you had some bad luck.

I've never had a problem with billing or with their website. My receivers will do their updates at like 3 AM. They are dead silent though. I've nevr had one make any noise whatsoever. I've never experienced the lag with button pressing in the guide either. In fact, that's what I hate about the DirecTV receivers I've used. I have a buddy who does my install work and he does it right. I don't trust the guys they send out.

Sgt Beavis
06-23-2009, 10:55 AM
I've been fairly happy with Dish Network but the PVR is a bit too cumbersome and they took the NFL network off their lowest programming packages.

The main reason I got DNet is so my wife can have her ONE Japanese channel for $25 a month. But last month she decided we didn't need it anymore. So I'm switching to DirecTV this summer so I can get NFL Sunday Ticket.

BOOSTED32V
06-23-2009, 11:01 AM
I've only had DirectTV since they came to the area in '96, I've never had any problems with their service. Actually one box took a shit and I had to buy another one, but when I switched to HD last year they gave me two HD converters, a new dish, installed everything including one of the older boxes upstairs. They appreciated my loyal business and I recieved everything for free! :smirk:

90GT50
06-23-2009, 11:32 AM
The picture is incredible.



No, they don't, actually. I have heard good and bad about Fios. Dish still has more HD channels available though.
Any idea what resolution dish is at best?

You sure about that? How many HD channels does dish network have? Fios has about 125 at the moment, and they're always adding more.

jluv
06-23-2009, 11:38 AM
Any idea what resolution dish is at best?

You sure about that? How many HD channels does dish network have? Fios has about 125 at the moment, and they're always adding more.


Dish HD channels are 1080i, I believe. They look amazing. Fios might be a little better, but the Dish HD channels don't leave me wanting an even better picture.

I'm pretty sure Dish has the most. They advertise that like crazy. I think they had 130+ a year or two ago, and they recently added a bunch more.

90GT50
06-23-2009, 11:44 AM
Dish HD channels are 1080i, I believe. They look amazing. Fios might be a little better, but the Dish HD channels don't leave me wanting an even better picture.

I'm pretty sure Dish has the most. They advertise that like crazy. I think they had 130+ a year or two ago, and they recently added a bunch more.

I don't think any dish company, or anyone that uses copper even broadcasts in 1080, they can just support it, just like how fios can support 1440 at the moment, but broadcasts in 1080. I could be wrong, but that's the way it's been explained to me.

jluv
06-23-2009, 12:13 PM
I don't think any dish company, or anyone that uses copper even broadcasts in 1080, they can just support it, just like how fios can support 1440 at the moment, but broadcasts in 1080. I could be wrong, but that's the way it's been explained to me.

It's definitely not broadcast in 1080p, but when I put it on hd channels my tv will show 1080i.

Yellowstang
06-23-2009, 12:22 PM
It's definitely not broadcast in 1080p, but when I put it on hd channels my tv will show 1080i.

DirecTv is working on 2160j and 2160Q, twice as good as anyone else has currently.

5.0_CJ
06-23-2009, 12:24 PM
My experience with Dish is their customer service is absolutely TERRIBLE.

90GT50
06-23-2009, 12:40 PM
DirecTv is working on 2160j and 2160Q, twice as good as anyone else has currently.
Fios just announced 2000000p.

paul_376
06-23-2009, 12:41 PM
does direct tv run a credit check?

jluv
06-23-2009, 12:43 PM
Fios just announced 2000000p.

Everything on Dish Network is now in 3D. You can even jump into the show and become one of the characters. I boned Jennifer Aniston last night during a Friends rerun.

Yellowstang
06-23-2009, 12:44 PM
Fios just announced 2000000p.

p is the old standard, Q is where it's at now (next letter of the alphabet!)

TrueBlueGT
06-23-2009, 12:45 PM
Dish currently has 140 HD channels and they broadcast in 1080i. My TV is an older 720P so it really doesn't matter to me. I chose Dish because they had better rates at the time and both have the channels I like to watch, so it really doesn't matter.

Yellowstang
06-23-2009, 12:47 PM
Dish currently has 140 HD channels and they broadcast in 1080i. My TV is an older 720P so it really doesn't matter to me. I chose Dish because they had better rates at the time and both have the channels I like to watch, so it really doesn't matter.


The number of channels all offer is way more than I will ever watch. I have DirecTv because of the Sunday NFL Ticket, gottsa watch my Bronco's!

90GT50
06-23-2009, 12:56 PM
p is the old standard, Q is where it's at now (next letter of the alphabet!)

Typo, I meant 5000000000z.

TrueBlueGT
06-23-2009, 01:41 PM
The number of channels all offer is way more than I will ever watch. I have DirecTv because of the Sunday NFL Ticket, gottsa watch my Bronco's!

Yea, that is the only way to see whatever football game you want. Since I don't watch football that much anymore, it doesn't bother me.

pattymelt3605
06-23-2009, 02:51 PM
I have had dish, fios, and uverse. I would pick dish as the best for me. Fios has no HD space on the DVR and you can't expand to external hard drive.

90GT50
06-23-2009, 02:54 PM
I have had dish, fios, and uverse. I would pick dish as the best for me. Fios has no HD space on the DVR and you can't expand to external hard drive.

Yep, 80 hours SD, and 20 hours HD. You could always just not get a set top box, and buy a seperate tivo box if you really wanted to.

pattymelt3605
06-23-2009, 02:58 PM
Yep, 80 hours SD, and 20 hours HD. You could always just not get a set top box, and buy a seperate tivo box if you really wanted to.

Yea but a 1tb hd is like $80. My old dish box did 30 hours of HD plus expandable hard drive. I don't like the fact that on fios it does not tell you episode numbers and the shit keeps recording reruns and not new episodes!! Taking up the small amount of space on my DVR!!

Yellowstang
06-23-2009, 02:58 PM
Typo, I meant 5000000000z.
Damnit, now I don't know if I should give up the Sunday NFL Ticket and switch or not... Hmm.....

90GT50
06-23-2009, 03:02 PM
Yea but a 1tb hd is like $80. My old dish box did 30 hours of HD plus expandable hard drive. I don't like the fact that on fios it does not tell you episode numbers and the shit keeps recording reruns and not new episodes!! Taking up the small amount of space on my DVR!!

Can't you set up the fios dvr to only record new episodes? I'm still new to everything.

90GT50
06-23-2009, 03:03 PM
Damnit, now I don't know if I should give up the Sunday NFL Ticket and switch or not... Hmm.....

You should :deal:

pattymelt3605
06-23-2009, 04:10 PM
Can't you set up the fios dvr to only record new episodes? I'm still new to everything.

You can and I did, but the shit keeps recording reruns! The best part of fios is the free on demand.

90GT50
06-23-2009, 04:44 PM
You can and I did, but the shit keeps recording reruns! The best part of fios is the free on demand.

The dish network dvr does the same exact stuff to me, lol.

Yellowstang
06-23-2009, 04:49 PM
The dish network dvr does the same exact stuff to me, lol.

My DirecTv DVR records only first runs of all the shows I have set with one exception, Wipeout (I can choose all or First run only). iI records the 2008 reruns once a week for some reason. Every other show tho, only first runs get recorded.

All the settings seem to work, I have some set to keep 3 or 5 episiodes, and it will remove the older ones if I do not delete them.

bcoop
06-24-2009, 09:48 AM
On compressed signal through copper wiring? woohoo. Can you get fios in your area, Brent?


Yeah, FiOS is what I currently have.



Yea but a 1tb hd is like $80. My old dish box did 30 hours of HD plus expandable hard drive. I don't like the fact that on fios it does not tell you episode numbers and the shit keeps recording reruns and not new episodes!! Taking up the small amount of space on my DVR!!

I've never had that problem, and we've had FiOS since FiOS first hit the market 5 years or so ago. I set it to record new episodes only, and that's exactly what it does. I also don't have any issues with the HD space. I've never even been over 50% used, then again once I watch it, I delete it. No need to keep it around.


For what it's worth, I have 122 HD channels. From everything I've seen online, FiOS and DirecTV lead the market in available HD programming. Dish wasn't even mentioned in the articles, meaning they are behind FiOS and DirecTV.

Tangstang
06-30-2009, 02:50 PM
jluv-


I'm pretty sure Dish doesn't lead in anything, except maybe trying to infringe on tivo's patents, they're pretty good at that;).

If Dish offers 130+ hd channels, how come the GOLD TURBO HD lineup only claims 'over 70' hd channels? Kinda pathetic(unless you want to talk about charter with 39 or so hd channels) in my opinion. Even U-verse has almost 100 hd channels, and dish only has 'over 70'?

http://www.dishnetwork.com/turbohd/default.aspx

Would someone count these for me? lol, Couldn't find an exact # and direct tv doesn't make it easy on you....but according to this they have about 89 hd channels (they also have another 30+ reserved for sporting events, pay-per-view, etc).

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSTV/ChannelLineup/ChannelLineup.htm?zipCode=76248
Click on 'hd' after putting in your zip code/city, and you should see it pop up 122 hd channels on the count.

Mustangman_2000
06-30-2009, 04:19 PM
dish sucks. Theyre the Chrysler Corp of TV programming.

I've had DISH for the last 2 years. Excellent all around, especially their multi-room DVRs that dwarf the capacity of FIOS DVR(and more reliable). Lots of HD channels. The few times I've ever had to call customer service I never had a problem. At least not yet.

And DISH has been doing 1080P Pay Per View for quite some time, so I'm not sure why this is being considered something new?

jluv
06-30-2009, 08:45 PM
jluv-


I'm pretty sure Dish doesn't lead in anything, except maybe trying to infringe on tivo's patents, they're pretty good at that;).

If Dish offers 130+ hd channels, how come the GOLD TURBO HD lineup only claims 'over 70' hd channels? Kinda pathetic(unless you want to talk about charter with 39 or so hd channels) in my opinion. Even U-verse has almost 100 hd channels, and dish only has 'over 70'?

http://www.dishnetwork.com/turbohd/default.aspx

Would someone count these for me? lol, Couldn't find an exact # and direct tv doesn't make it easy on you....but according to this they have about 89 hd channels (they also have another 30+ reserved for sporting events, pay-per-view, etc).

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSTV/ChannelLineup/ChannelLineup.htm?zipCode=76248
Click on 'hd' after putting in your zip code/city, and you should see it pop up 122 hd channels on the count.

No one currently offers more HD channels than Dish Network.

You have a misunderstanding of their packages. The TurboHD packages are offered for people who want nothing but HD channels, or as add-ons to the regular channel lineups. There are still other programming packages that offer channels in HD that are separate from the Turbo packages.

Just one example - MTV. It's not listed under those Turbo HD packages, but it is indeed in HD. There are several others.

Dish actually is advertising 140+ now. They even show DirecTV as having 130+.

I'm very happy with Dish. Their customer service sucks most of the time, but I've heard horror stories from friends who have Fios, too.

Check it: http://www.dishbeatsdirectv.com/dish/programming.html?utm_source=dn&utm_medium=ref&utm_term=dnmain&utm_campaign=dbdtv

tenacious j
06-30-2009, 10:06 PM
i worked for both dish and direct and i personally prefer dish. i thought their equipment was better quality and easier to use.

bcoop
07-01-2009, 10:33 AM
And DISH has been doing 1080P Pay Per View for quite some time, so I'm not sure why this is being considered something new?



Nobody said it was new. If you had actually read my first post, I said I only caught part of the commercial. I was simply trying to get clarification, because I thought I misheard what was stated, and that turned out to be the case.

Tangstang
07-01-2009, 06:04 PM
No one currently offers more HD channels than Dish Network.

You have a misunderstanding of their packages. The TurboHD packages are offered for people who want nothing but HD channels, or as add-ons to the regular channel lineups. There are still other programming packages that offer channels in HD that are separate from the Turbo packages.

Just one example - MTV. It's not listed under those Turbo HD packages, but it is indeed in HD. There are several others.

Dish actually is advertising 140+ now. They even show DirecTV as having 130+.

I'm very happy with Dish. Their customer service sucks most of the time, but I've heard horror stories from friends who have Fios, too.

Check it: http://www.dishbeatsdirectv.com/dish/programming.html?utm_source=dn&utm_medium=ref&utm_term=dnmain&utm_campaign=dbdtv
can you show me an actual channel lineup where you're going to get an exact # of channels? Because I've sold plenty of people with dish, who didn't have nearly as many HD channels as you're saying they offer. Don't include sport alternates and crap like that either would ya.

jluv
07-01-2009, 08:46 PM
can you show me an actual channel lineup where you're going to get an exact # of channels? Because I've sold plenty of people with dish, who didn't have nearly as many HD channels as you're saying they offer. Don't include sport alternates and crap like that either would ya.

I've posted what I'm gonna post. If you want more, you'll need to dig for it yourself.

Tangstang
07-02-2009, 03:48 PM
I've posted what I'm gonna post. If you want more, you'll need to dig for it yourself.


Please wait while we find a representative to assist you...
You have been connected to (01) Charisma P. IHZ.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: Welcome to Dish Network. To better assist you with your buying experience and ensure that we can contact you in case this session gets disconnected, please provide your phone number using this format 999 – 999 – 9999.
Customer: I'd rather not, I do have a couple of quick questions though.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: I’d be happy to assist you with your concern.
Customer: I live at ________, and am concerned with hd content
Customer: How many hd channels can you provide me with?
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: Give me a moment to check it for you.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: Thank you for waiting.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: If you will have the Gold HD, that's more than 70 channels.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: Plus you can add the Platinum HD that has 11 HD channels extra.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: And if you have premium packages like HBO, Showtime, Starz, and Cinemax, you can also get them in HD!
Customer: how many hd channels are included in all of the premium packages?
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: One moment please while I check it for you.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: I still need more time.
Customer: ok
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: Thank you for waiting.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: There are a total of 22 HD channels under those premium packages.
Customer: so around 100 hd channels then?
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: Yes, more than 100 HD channels.
(01) Charisma P. IHZ: And we are still working on to get more HD channels this year.







Ok, if the rep only added up 70+(Gold HD), 22 for the premiums(HBO, showtime,etc.), and 11 in the platinum hd package, where are you coming up with 140+? By the way it took about 20 minutes for her to find out how many hd channels i could actually get here in fort worth.