Those who have had a pool built

[5.0LiterRiceEater]

How did you finance it? 2nd mortgage, bank loan? Wife won't leave me alone

[Mr. B]

I think everyone on here is a balla with skillz and just pays cash.

[Vertnut]

Home improvement loan...or 2nd. I'd never do it again, either.

[Slowhand]

Financing a home improvement project that adds little to no value to your home with debt? Nice.

[busta180-2]

Just move to a house with a pool already built and save the pain and expense .

[Baron]

Just move to a house with a pool already built and save the pain and expense .
we bought our house with a pool already built, but the loan history showed the original owners took out a 2nd mortgage to build the pool and the patio cover.

[FreightTrain]

A few years ago I was dating a girl who's dad paid for his 75k back yard upgrade that included a pool,hot tub, patio and outdoor cooking station with a bonus check he got from work. Last I heard he lost his job and had to sell the house lol. Like I said it was a few years back when the economy was good.

[5.0LiterRiceEater]

I think everyone on here is a balla with skillz and just pays cash.

You're right, i forgot.


I really don't want to do it. Just thought i would get some opinions to tell the wife.

[miketyler]

I want to have one put in but am going to wait until the market recovers and my home will appraise to cover it. When we first bought back in the early part of 2008 I thought that would be a couple of years.

Now I am not so optimistic. :squint:

[Vertnut]

You're right, i forgot.


I really don't want to do it. Just thought i would get some opinions to tell the wife.

Tell her it's the gift that keeps on giving...like AIDS. It's a money pit. Once you get it built, you spend money to maintain it for it's whole life. Think of it as a boat...with a 15 year note.:biggrin:

[Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~]

Buy a boat atleast when you get tired of messing with it you can sell it! Your stuck with a pool forever

[5.0_CJ]

In 1980 my parents had their pool built, my father was an olympic diver so he wanted a very deep pool and a spring board. The pool was really good, and quite large - however when it came to sell the house it was difficult, apparently it was the largest free form pool in arlington (and the realtor put that in the ad), and a lot of people didn't want to maintain it - and trust me, maintaining a pool is expensive. chlorine, sweepers, cleaners, filter elements, water bill - constant expenses. It sure is fun for parties an relaxing, but primarily the only time you relax is after you busted your ass cleaning it to do so.

[Cooter]

when I was a kid my parents moved us into a house with a pool... huge pain in the ass...

IF... and that's a HUGE if... I was going to have a pool, it would be a salt water pool

[Sgt Beavis]

Financing a home improvement project that adds little to no value to your home with debt? Nice.

That has been my exact way of thinking on the matter. I would like to have a swimming pool but only on the house that I plan to live in for the rest of my life.

[miketyler]

I had a pool at my old place I maintained myself. It was a PITA at times especially maintaining it during the off season and getting it ready for the swim season.

On the other hand, there was nothing more inviting when it was hot and it creates a great luxurious focal point if you are building the ultimate back yard getaway. When I sold my home several realtors told me that a pool generally will add up to $10k to a home value no matter what it actually cost to build.

I want a pool but I am thinking this time a round a smaller pool with the more modern beach lead in would be cool. Not taking the plunge though until the home value improves and will cover it.

[mikeb]

I'd never have a house with a pool. My wife worked for a pool company once and got a good look at what is involved with daily upkeep. Screw that. You have to really love a pool to justify the amount of work it takes to keep one up (kind of like a race car LOL....)

[Yellowstang]

I'd never have a house with a pool. My wife worked for a pool company once and got a good look at what is involved with daily upkeep. Screw that. You have to really love a pool to justify the amount of work it takes to keep one up (kind of like a race car LOL....)


I used to think that too, but the salt water pool we had really required very little work. After it was all said and done, I was glad we got it, even tho we moved a few years after getting it built.

[mustangguy289]

It's easier just to have friends with pools!

[milk]

it's easier just to have friends with pools!

and cheaper





milk

[97blkpny]

Get you an above ground pool and be the shiznit. :loser:

[Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~]

Honestly pools arent hard to keep up with a good quality cover for winter/fall and a properly working filter. About 10-15 minutes a week maybe 30 in the summer. If you build a pool underneath 40-50 ft trees your dumb and deserve to have to spend hours cleaning it. Trees and pools dont work

[SonicBlueGT03]

A big +1 for doing a salt water pool. Nearly zero maint. other than keeping the leaves out.

[doopie]

I Love pools and they are easy to maintain. I prefer chlorine to saltwater as I hated the salt residue left from splashing and the corrosion on the furniture around the area from salt.

Will prolly get one in the next two months as prices have dropped 15K since we had them bid on last September. Was debating pools by owner but do not feel like dealing with it this time.

Raymond

[Baron]

I Love pools and they are easy to maintain. I prefer chlorine to saltwater as I hated the salt residue left from splashing and the corrosion on the furniture around the area from salt.

Will prolly get one in the next two months as prices have dropped 15K since we had them bid on last September. Was debating pools by owner but do not feel like dealing with it this time.

Raymond
The salinity level is less than that of a tear. I have never heard of anyone complain about residue?

[Yellowstang]

The salinity level is less than that of a tear. I have never heard of anyone complain about residue?


We never had any salt residue, and plenty of outdoor furniture that didn't rust.

[doopie]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Fact-vs-Fiction---A-Salt-Water-Pool-Review&id=1010414

We had a Chlorine and our neighbor a Salt pool. After eight years no issues and the same components filtration. Our neighbor had his for two years and went through a cell and a pump. He also had to wash his patio and all his furniture down every two weeks because the salt was causing the aluminum furniture to corrode where the powder coating had chipped.or where it sat in a crevie on the table when people had towels on the table or backs of chairs.

I am sure that many people do not have the same experience we went to buy a foreclosure and we back out after a pool maintenance company deemed the repairs to costly due to neglect and the amount of damage to the pool.

I like the feel of cold salt water pools but when they are warm they are just not very refreshing.


To answer the original question Most pool companies will do a second mortgage or Home Improvement loan through a partner lender.

[Baron]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Fact-vs-Fiction---A-Salt-Water-Pool-Review&id=1010414

We had a Chlorine and our neighbor a Salt pool. After eight years no issues and the same components filtration. Our neighbor had his for two years and went through a cell and a pump. He also had to wash his patio and all his furniture down every two weeks because the salt was causing the aluminum furniture to corrode where the powder coating had chipped.or where it sat in a crevie on the table when people had towels on the table or backs of chairs.

I am sure that many people do not have the same experience we went to buy a foreclosure and we back out after a pool maintenance company deemed the repairs to costly due to neglect and the amount of damage to the pool.

I like the feel of cold salt water pools but when they are warm they are just not very refreshing.


To answer the original question Most pool companies will do a second mortgage or Home Improvement loan through a partner lender.
Ever thought that maybe your neighbor was doing something terribly wrong?

I have been in salt pools and couldn't tell they had a salt system, yet your guy has salt residue all around his shit?

[Yellowstang]

Ever thought that maybe your neighbor was doing something terribly wrong?

I have been in salt pools and couldn't tell they had a salt system, yet your guy has salt residue all around his shit?


I think that is called, "Too much fucken salt in the water", but don't quote me on that.

[Baron]

I think that is called, "Too much fucken salt in the water", but don't quote me on that.
oops.

[Chili]

A friend of mine has a salt water pool and he loves it though he was out of town in December for a couple of weeks and his neighbor was watching the house. About half way through the trip is neighbor called and said something was wrong with his pool. When he got back his pump had gone out and he said the water was so dark you couldn't see more than about a foot down. He needed to shock it several times and still has some staining.

He still loves it as far as the maintenance goes.. He has had it about 3 years.

[doopie]

I have had pools all my life and never had issues with chlorine pools except for areas with lots of trees and then when you have parties but that is more of the fact that you can't have a party without somen pissing in your pool. Little kids pee all the time and when one kid is in the pool for 4 hours and doesn't ever get out to piss you know where he is pissing.

Having had multiple pool vendors come out last fall to bid on our backyard we had 10 bids completed. 5 reccomended salt as an easier maintenace process for us than with chlorine and all of the chemicals required to keep the water in spec.
3 reccomended chlorine since we have aerobic septic and they had to many customers complain about the ill effects on the backwash on their grass and trees along with the increased water usage to wash everything down to prevent sodium buildup which cases corrosion. 2 of them reccomended a product called ecosmarte which uses copper to kill bacteria and germs but were not willing to mandate it since it was a new product.

As for my neighbor pool company said everything was fine it just happens salt is a corrosive and requires more attention to keep things cleaned.

How do you deal with evaporation and the remaining salt that is left behind?
How long did the salt generator last on a 40000 gallon pool?

Here is the ecosmarte link that is starting to take a stronghold in the pool industry. more pool companies are backing it as an alternative to salt or chlorine. To soften the water you could always just use pottasium softeners more expensive but doesnt pose the risks that salt does for damage.

http://www.ecosmartepool.com/

[gnturboray]

Ask the pool company, a lot of them have a hook up on financing with good rates.

I financed $44k for my pool at 6% for 15 years with no penalty for early pay off.

[Baron]

I have had pools all my life and never had issues with chlorine pools except for areas with lots of trees and then when you have parties but that is more of the fact that you can't have a party without somen pissing in your pool. Little kids pee all the time and when one kid is in the pool for 4 hours and doesn't ever get out to piss you know where he is pissing.

Having had multiple pool vendors come out last fall to bid on our backyard we had 10 bids completed. 5 reccomended salt as an easier maintenace process for us than with chlorine and all of the chemicals required to keep the water in spec.
3 reccomended chlorine since we have aerobic septic and they had to many customers complain about the ill effects on the backwash on their grass and trees along with the increased water usage to wash everything down to prevent sodium buildup which cases corrosion. 2 of them reccomended a product called ecosmarte which uses copper to kill bacteria and germs but were not willing to mandate it since it was a new product.

As for my neighbor pool company said everything was fine it just happens salt is a corrosive and requires more attention to keep things cleaned.

How do you deal with evaporation and the remaining salt that is left behind?
How long did the salt generator last on a 40000 gallon pool?

Here is the ecosmarte link that is starting to take a stronghold in the pool industry. more pool companies are backing it as an alternative to salt or chlorine. To soften the water you could always just use pottasium softeners more expensive but doesnt pose the risks that salt does for damage.

http://www.ecosmartepool.com/
interesting. You know that a salt pool uses chlorine as it's sanitizer, right?

To combat the fact that your TDS will rise with evaporation, standard "drain and fill" should be done every 2 years, draining 1/4 of the pool and refilling. I have heard every year, but I think that seems excessive. This applies to non salt pools, regardless of sanitizer type.

I have heard of the cheap generators failing in a few years, but the mid to high level cells will last 10-15 years, size of the pool doesn't irrelevant. Besides, 40k gal is VERY uncommon in a residential pool. The average is getting lower with the popularity of 10-15k gal "play pools" since they are generally cheaper, and deeper pools tend to have higher homeowners insurance rates.

A salt system is generally less maintenance due to the fact that they generate chlorine from salt, and they tend to maintain the level of sanitizer where as it is up to the caretaker to stay on top of the chlorine level. My bet is that the PH was way too low on your buddy's pool, and that was why he had corrosion problems, not the salt. Salt is corrosive, but far less than chlorine.

BTW, pools have had the elemental metal cleaners for years.