T.O released!!!!!

[WhoaTX5.0]

Just on espn, T.O. has been released from the dallas cowboys!!!!!!!

So who are the Dallas Cowboys going to go after at the wr position?

[Kenny_Stang]

Just saw that! Thought I would never see the day :smashfreakB:

[SVT Lurch]

Whoo freakin' hoo!

[johnny1999]

So who are the Dallas Cowboys going to go after at the wr position?

It looks like Torry Holt will be available for a late round draft pick. You could also get Marvin Harrison fairly cheap. My bet it they do nothing, rolling with Crayton and Williams.

[GE]

What a virus. Good riddance.

[Cleto-Chingon]

That's a shocker that Jerry came to that decision.
Na na naa na hey hey hey good by


T.O. "That's my quarterback."

[chuckacosta]

Omg!!!!!!!

[KOZMO]

Wowzers!

[87FoxBodyGT]

they shouldve released tony romo. damn he sucks

[Stephen]

Daayyum!!!

[JMAC]

they shouldve released tony romo. damn he sucks+

First we pick up Kitna, then release TO. Fuck the boys..

[06S197GT]

could this be another bs story like before? I see nothing on cowboys site...

[WhoaTX5.0]

could this be another bs story like before? I see nothing on cowboys site...

It's on espn.com

[loki]

WOOOOOHOOOOOO, But now who are they gonna blame if they don't make the playoffs?

[06S197GT]

It's on espn.com

yeah they had released a bogus story before, I can't recall exactly what it was about but heard it on the mickey spagnola show...idk

[loki]

They are talking to Ed Werder on espn news.

[PhatdowninTx]

Picking up Keith Brooking, getting Jon Kitna, and releasing T.O all in the same off season? This is hilarious... If the Cowboys think they are going in the right direction, they are insane. Roy Williams will never be the receiver T.O is/was, and Jon Kitna is maybe .09x the better qb Johnson was.

My prediction is Cowboys will be 7-10 this next season, any bet takers?

[warrjsmith]

+

First we pick up Kitna, then release TO. Fuck the boys..


FUCK THE COWBOYS, WTF is going on?

[warrjsmith]

And FUCK TRENT DILFer too.

[TOMMY]

Picking up Keith Brooking, getting Jon Kitna, and releasing T.O all in the same off season? This is hilarious... If the Cowboys think they are going in the right direction, they are insane. Roy Williams will never be the receiver T.O is/was, and Jon Kitna is maybe .09x the better qb Johnson was.

My prediction is Cowboys will be 7-10 this next season, any bet takers?


1k says they won't be 7-10........

[TOMMY]

It looks like Torry Holt will be available for a late round draft pick. You could also get Marvin Harrison fairly cheap. My bet it they do nothing, rolling with Crayton and Williams.


Harrison.....

maybe..:Thinkingof_:

[Badass2000gt]

So what is the big deal?

[PhatdowninTx]

1k says they won't be 7-10........


1k? What they will be 6-11 or worst? With T.O gone, Romo will be blitzed more then he was because that extra defender doubling T.O will now come in on him. Felix/Barber/Choice, will have another man on the line because T.O is not there to be schemed against. They have a C group of receivers; B+/A group of RB's; A+ DL; C+ OL; D+ Secondary; C+/B LB's, and a B- tandem of QB's. (In my opinion) @ best that's 8-8 season!

[silvercobra03]

I think this was a good move by the cowboys I hope William will be able to step up.

[LannyN9NE]

1k? What they will be 6-11 or worst? With T.O gone, Romo will be blitzed more then he was because that extra defender doubling T.O will now come in on him. Felix/Barber/Choice, will have another man on the line because T.O is not there to be schemed against. They have a C group of receivers; B+/A group of RB's; A+ DL; C+ OL; D+ Secondary; C+/B LB's, and a B- tandem of QB's. (In my opinion) @ best that's 8-8 season!

Really man? so you think they will either be 7-10 or 6-11? Then you come back and say 8-8.


On a more serious note, I think this is a bad decision for the Cowboys and it will come back to haunt them.

[Badass2000gt]

So how much money is the cowboys losing by doing this? I thought TO and the cowboys agreed to a new contract not to long ago?

[Da Prez]

what a stupid ass move on the cowboys part if it is true...

[TOMMY]

1k? What they will be 6-11 or worst? With T.O gone, Romo will be blitzed more then he was because that extra defender doubling T.O will now come in on him. Felix/Barber/Choice, will have another man on the line because T.O is not there to be schemed against. They have a C group of receivers; B+/A group of RB's; A+ DL; C+ OL; D+ Secondary; C+/B LB's, and a B- tandem of QB's. (In my opinion) @ best that's 8-8 season!

they only play 16 games:smashfreakB:

[Hollywood]

TO = cancer

I think this is a good move. People get too caught up in TO's stats and don't take in to account the other bullshit he does. There's a reason the Niners and Eagles got rid of him, and now the cowboys. The negatives out weight the positives.

[PhatdowninTx]

Im saying @ best 8-8, however I believe they will be 7-9, and the 6-10 was to the guy who said 1k that they won't be 7-9; I was implying that he thinks they will be worst. (stirring shit up because i know what he mean't by saying they won't be 7-9, he thinks they will have a better record.) if you can follow that. 16 games is what I mean't :smashfreakB::chairshot: on my head!

[TOMMY]

Im saying @ best 8-8, however I believe they will be 7-9, and the 6-10 was to the guy who said 1k that they won't be 7-9; I was implying that he thinks they will be worst. (stirring shit up because i know what he mean't by saying they won't be 7-9, he thinks they will have a better record.) if you can follow that. 16 games is what I mean't :smashfreakB::chairshot: on my head!

:biggrin:

[LannyN9NE]

TO = cancer

I think this is a good move. People get too caught up in TO's stats and don't take in to account the other bullshit he does. There's a reason the Niners and Eagles got rid of him, and now the cowboys. The negatives out weight the positives.

I am tired of hearing that really. Look at what has been made a big deal in the media while he has been here. The latest one where the receivers went to the offensive coordinator with complaints. If you have a problem at work you talk to who is in charge and that is what they did. The vicodin thing. Again media making a story out of nothing. Other than those two there has not been blow ups ect that hurt the team. The exact opposite where he has defended teammates and decisions made.

[Badass2000gt]

I am tired of hearing that really. Look at what has been made a big deal in the media while he has been here. The latest one where the receivers went to the offensive coordinator with complaints. If you have a problem at work you talk to who is in charge and that is what they did. The vicodin thing. Again media making a story out of nothing. Other than those two there has not been blow ups ect that hurt the team. The exact opposite where he has defended teammates and decisions made.

Yeah and he even cried for his QB.

[TOMMY]

I'm a T.O. fan..but the Cowboys come first.....

The cancer is gone so no excuses...Romo should play better right. We will see

[Vertnut]

Obviously, Jerry's trying to shake things up. I'm surprised about T.O., especially after Jerry seemed to lash out to folks when he was asked about cutting him. Maybe Romo and the rest of the staff will relax a little and play better ball. Is T.O.'s ability on the field worth the issues in the clubhouse? Jerry says no. I guess we'll see in a few months.

[IDAjeff]

its about dame time they released terrel owens.......romo play better? lmao

[IDAjeff]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f15db7&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

theres the link....its official

[regaltip]

T.O. gone makes things easier to get the ball around to the true playmakers!

[milk]

Fuck that shit. What Jerry needs to do is FIRE the fucking coaches. Starting with Garret and then Wade. Actualy, he needs to FIRE the fucking general manager ASAP and just stick to supplying cash. We had a good team last year that wasnt coached right!!! I love the COWBOYS but Jerry is the real cancer here not T.O.!!!!!!!!




MILK

[sick96GT]

I'm going to miss T.O.'s whining, crying, and ball dropping.

He made it exciting.

[mustang_marc]

Good f*ckling riddance! F*ck that little prima donna.

[mikecobra95]

When will some of you fuckers realize that a team has to have Chemistry. With TO there there was none, I repeat NONE and it showed.

The Boys will be a better team now. Maybe not as explosive, but definitely more of a team.

As an Eagles fan this makes me mad. I wanted TO here to keep the drama going and hurt the Boys. We'll see how they react, but it can only be a better situation here. His numbers were decent but he's not fucking wrth the drama.

I was overjoyed the day the Eagles got rid of that bastard.

[Nate]

Roy will get his chance to step it up and show if he is worthy of # 1 receiver now.

[IDAjeff]

Roy will get his chance to step it up and show if he is worthy of # 1 receiver now.

i think roy can handle himself hes ready imo.

[staticX]

It was reported that Roy Williams showed up 2 weeks early to the offseason workouts and whatnot

[bcoop]

Holy Shit! I'm surprised at all of the people sticking up for him.


I've been as big of a TO supporter as anyone here has. But, it's time to move on. TO isn't what he once was. He can't beat anyone off the line, he'd rather fall over and play dead than stretch out for another 2 yards, etc. He's only in the game to pad his career numbers. It was quite obvious last season, that he only gives a shit about HIS numbers, and fuck the rest of the team.


Newy Scruggs also broke a story on the radio this morning, that Roy Williams has also been released. Still waiting for something more firm...


If the Cowboys can acquire Torry Holt for a late pick, I think that would be a good move. However, I don't see St Louis getting rid of him for anything lower than a 1st rounder.

[momo stallion]

It was reported that Roy Williams showed up 2 weeks early to the offseason workouts and whatnot


good that fool needs to learn his routes.

now if romo would show up they might get somewhere.

[BlueThunder99TA]

Roy will get his chance to step it up and show if he is worthy of # 1 receiver now.


SWEET, now our #1 is a guy that has had one 1000 yard season in his career, unless of course you count highschool.:irked:

[HECDOGGIE]

Roy Williams is the fucking Man! He will step up to the plate, He has a great work ethic, size and speed!


TO was a distraction, I think he hurt the team more than help, the only positive part of him being on the team was it opened up Jason W!


Roy is the man- PERIOD

[Big Studly]

hooray...welcome to another year of no playoffs. Roy Williams is not a #1 receiver. This team is going to have to rely on the rush now. Hopefully they will stack the box and it will allow Witten or Williams to have some production....but I still don't see playoffs next year unless they pick up a play maker.

Roy Williams just released...the Safety that is.

[Big Studly]

Roy Williams is the fucking Man! He will step up to the plate, He has a great work ethic, size and speed!


TO was a distraction, I think he hurt the team more than help, the only positive part of him being on the team was it opened up Jason W!


Roy is the man- PERIOD

UM............not really, in fact, that is the complete opposite of what the word on the street is

[bcoop]

Roy Williams just released...the Safety that is.

Newy broke that over an hour ago, but I still can't find anything on the net. The Ticket is talking about it now though.

[GarlandTxn13]

T.O. was NOT a cancer, he made a lot of big plays for the 'Boys. He did have some tendencies of "crying" about not getting the ball enough, but who wouldnt?? I know if I played I'd sure want the ball as much as i could get it. He was a good fit here and will be missed. The Cowboys fans will miss that flashy show he put on every game, he hyped up the team, crowd, and everybody watching. Now we all know Jerry has something up his sleeve he is working on cause you dont just cut a guy like T.O. without having a plan to get someone here to replace him.

[regaltip]

Do you think the Boys will bring in someone like Marvin Harrison? If not then who will they pick up. I'll be honest with you I'm not too sold on Roy Williams being a true #1 he needs help and Pat Crayton isn't that player.

[regaltip]

This just out on Holt

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3954188

He want's to be released!

[J&T's 82]

The Cowboy's are definitelty cleaning house. In the long run it will be a good thing. I am also hoping that the Cowboy's fire Wade so he can come back to Houston and run the D.:biggrin:

I still think the Texans will have a better season than the Cowboys next year.

[regaltip]

The Cowboy's are definitelty cleaning house. In the long run it will be a good thing. I am also hoping that the Cowboy's fire Wade so he can come back to Houston and run the D.:biggrin:

I still think the Texans will have a better season than the Cowboys next year.

Get your head out of your ass!

[bcoop]

T.O. was NOT a cancer, he made a lot of big plays for the 'Boys. He did have some tendencies of "crying" about not getting the ball enough, but who wouldnt?? I know if I played I'd sure want the ball as much as i could get it. He was a good fit here and will be missed. The Cowboys fans will miss that flashy show he put on every game, he hyped up the team, crowd, and everybody watching. Now we all know Jerry has something up his sleeve he is working on cause you dont just cut a guy like T.O. without having a plan to get someone here to replace him.




Garland. That says it all. You're a fucking idiot, just in case you didn't know....

[IDAjeff]

isnt chad johnson a free agent next year? hes always said he wanted retire as a dallas cowboy

[zachary]

MORE IMPORTANT than TO being released Roy Williams was! JUMP FOR JOY!

[bcoop]

Do you think the Boys will bring in someone like Marvin Harrison? If not then who will they pick up. I'll be honest with you I'm not too sold on Roy Williams being a true #1 he needs help and Pat Crayton isn't that player.



Honestly, I don't think the Cowboys will bring anyone in to replace him. Not after what the gave for RW last year.


That said, if we somehow wound up with Holt or Boldin, I'd be ecstatic. I just don't see AZ letting Boldin go after all that they've said.

[regaltip]

If Holt gets released I see him making a run over here to Dallas.

[J&T's 82]

Get your head out of your ass!

Really???? Texans 8-8...Cowboys 9-7. You might want to go look at the stats last year.....And Shaub was out just like Romo was last year.

[bcoop]

If Holt gets released I see him making a run over here to Dallas.

He's not too shabby. Would make a decent #2 here.

[GarlandTxn13]

It would be bad ass if we could pick up someone like Holt or Harrison, I would love to see Anquan Bouldin in the blue n silver but what are the chances of that happening even though he kinda wants out of AZ.

[Big Studly]

Honestly, I don't think the Cowboys will bring anyone in to replace him. Not after what the gave for RW last year.


That said, if we somehow wound up with Holt or Boldin, I'd be ecstatic. I just don't see AZ letting Boldin go after all that they've said.

Boldin won't leave AZ, one of Warners stipulations for resigning was that they keep Boldin.

Holt? Seriously? He is done.

Harrison? He is done, but might be better than Holt.

There is nobody left out there that could help this team! I am wondering why the didn't at least try and trade him for a late round pick, or something! Maybe his contract was too big.

Williams is NOT a #1, a #2 at best. Crayton is a #3 at best, and that is who you have leading your receiving core. Fucking brilliant!

[HECDOGGIE]

UM............not really, in fact, that is the complete opposite of what the word on the street is

We shall see,,,, We shall see

[bcoop]

Get your head out of your ass!

I'll say this.. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, if the Texans go something like 11-5 this next year. They're a few key defensive players short of being lethal.


You can't deny their receiving core. Steve Slaton is a fucking beast, that I don't think anyone predicted to do what he did last year. Shaub was hurt for several games, etc. They're a good team, that's only getting better.

[Big Studly]

We shall see,,,, We shall see

what is there to see? I am telling you, that is what the rumors are, he lacks work ethic.

[regaltip]

Jerry gave up way too much for Roy last year. I don't see him doing that for Boldin. I see a free agent being the next thing Jerry pulls out the check book for.

[bcoop]

Boldin won't leave AZ, one of Warners stipulations for resigning was that they keep Boldin.

What? AZ wasn't ever going to release Boldin. HE wanted out, not the other way around. Last year, AZ said whether Boldin liked it or not, he was going to live out the remainder of the contract in AZ, whether he was playing or riding pine. It was identical to what Cincy said about Ocho Cinco. I know Fitzgerald came out a few days before the Pro Bowl, saying he'd restructure his deal so Boldin could get more money, but nothing ever came of that.

Holt? Seriously? He is done.

Personally, I'd rather have Holt than Harrison. Again, I'm not looking for a star. I'm looking for a good spot filler. I think Holt could fill that role nicely.



Maybe his contract was too big.

Probably the most likely scenario. That, or maybe they put feelers out for a trade, had no takers, and decided to just cut and run.

[bcoop]

Jerry gave up way too much for Roy last year. I don't see him doing that for Boldin. I see a free agent being the next thing Jerry pulls out the check book for.

He better. They need a safety!

[BLAKE]

Na na na na,
Na na na na,
Hey heeeey
Goo-ood byyyeee!

[regaltip]

Yeah they are going to need a safety. I think Jerry might go into the draft for that. Just my opinion on it. They are blowing up this team!

[regaltip]

Roy Williams gone: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/030609dnsporoywilliams.62144b2.html

[J&T's 82]

He better. They need a safety!

Yep. The one good safety coming out decided to stay his senior season and would have gone somewhere in the first round so it would have been hard for the Boy's to get him anyway. They have already missed the boat on one free agent safety.

[IDAjeff]

too bad my broncos got brian dawkins cowboys could have used him

[Big Studly]

What? AZ wasn't ever going to release Boldin. HE wanted out, not the other way around. Last year, AZ said whether Boldin liked it or not, he was going to live out the remainder of the contract in AZ, whether he was playing or riding pine. It was identical to what Cincy said about Ocho Cinco. I know Fitzgerald came out a few days before the Pro Bowl, saying he'd restructure his deal so Boldin could get more money, but nothing ever came of that.

I realize that....that is why I said "keep", as in, not get rid of. The would not be able to keep Boldin if he wanted to leave and was able to.

As far as Holt or Harrsion, to me, that is 6 of one, half dozen of the other. You aren't going to get what you need out of either. You might get more out of Holt, but it still won't be enough.

[bigbirdbryan21]

jerry took a lesson from cuban! cuban stepped up and said if your not giving an effort you dont belong here! bingo!!!!!!
TO=NO EFFORT!!! GET OUT!
good move!what are some of yall complaining about? TO was average at best last year!! and he was not double covered every play like was claimed, he was just jammed thats it! he is an incredible athlete that has alot of motivation but only for him self!

whens the last time you seen TO go up and fight for a pass against a defender?
never the guy sucks unless you can get him wide the f:censored:ck open!

good luck TO :beerchug:

[Tim Nalley]

its about freakin time.

[regaltip]

x10

And replace him with what?

[Vertnut]

LMAO at the Cowboy's relying on a Longhorn to make this work!:wink1:


Hook 'em!:biggrin:

[IDAjeff]

And replace him with what?

Drew Brees :biggrin:

lol but we all know that would never happen

[bigbirdbryan21]

heard they just released roy "i cant cover anything on the field" williams also!
jerry is cleaning shop!! go jerry!!:biggrin:

[BlueThunder99TA]

Roy Williams is the fucking Man! He will step up to the plate, He has a great work ethic, size and speed!


TO was a distraction, I think he hurt the team more than help, the only positive part of him being on the team was it opened up Jason W!


Roy is the man- PERIOD


take off those orange tinted glasses. I think TO's worst year in the league produced better #'s than RW has ever put up. Hope the line is ready to run block next season.

[bcoop]

LMAO at the Cowboy's relying on a Longhorn to make this work!:wink1:


Hook 'em!:biggrin:

The season hasn't started yet, asshole!

[bcoop]

heard they just released roy "i cant cover anything on the field" williams also!
jerry is cleaning shop!! go jerry!!:biggrin:

Jesus Christ. READ. You're only a few hours late.

[regaltip]

Drew Brees :biggrin:

lol but we all know that would never happen

Seriously man why don't you worry about Jay Cuntler and if you will have a decent QB next year.

[bigbirdbryan21]

And replace him with what?

ummmmmmmm...kitna!!!!duh! he is the answer!!!!!!!!!

super bowl here we come:biggrin:

[IDAjeff]

yall keep down talkin Roy E. Williams......the guy is a great football player

[IDAjeff]

Seriously man why don't you worry about Jay Cuntler and if you will have a decent QB next year.

lmao i knew you would say something


i dont guess you can really argue with me one that one? drew brees is way better then cutler and romo but i do like cutler the kid can throw

[Big Studly]

yall keep down talkin Roy E. Williams......the guy is a great football player

if he is so great, why does he produce like a spare?

[IDAjeff]

terrible qb thats why but hey you never know maybe now that terrel owens is gone that will change somehow.

[LannyN9NE]

jerry took a lesson from cuban! cuban stepped up and said if your not giving an effort you dont belong here! bingo!!!!!!
TO=NO EFFORT!!! GET OUT!
good move!what are some of yall complaining about? TO was average at best last year!! and he was not double covered every play like was claimed, he was just jammed thats it! he is an incredible athlete that has alot of motivation but only for him self!

whens the last time you seen TO go up and fight for a pass against a defender?
never the guy sucks unless you can get him wide the f:censored:ck open!

good luck TO :beerchug:


You can complain all you want about TO but effort is one thing that no team has questioned about him. In fact that is the exact opposite they say of him.

One thing I think people are overlooking on here is how this will directly effect Romo. He is at his best when he extends plays and finds someone who has broken off a route and improvised as well. This is TO's strength.

[bcoop]

You can complain all you want about TO but effort is one thing that no team has questioned about him. In fact that is the exact opposite they say of him.





Maybe in the past. How many Cowboy games did you really, seriously watch last year? Sure, he's made a hell of an effort over the years. But he wasn't as old then, as he is now.


TO doesn't do a fucking thing for Y.A.C. He'd rather literally lay down and not take a hit. How many times did you see him give up on routes? I can't even count the number of times he did it. How many times did you see him get up and battle it out with a DB, over the ball? You know how many times I saw him do that last season? Not once...

You can say his effort has never been in question, which I somewhat agree with in years past. But not this last year. One could also argue that the effort was there, but the execution wasn't. Sorry. I've seen way too dropped balls (that were easily catchable), way too many times where he flat out gave up on running his route, to think that his effort is what it used to be.

[LannyN9NE]

Maybe in the past. How many Cowboy games did you really, seriously watch last year? Sure, he's made a hell of an effort over the years. But he wasn't as old then, as he is now.


TO doesn't do a fucking thing for Y.A.C. He'd rather literally lay down and not take a hit. How many times did you see him give up on routes? I can't even count the number of times he did it. How many times did you see him get up and battle it out with a DB, over the ball? You know how many times I saw him do that last season? Not once...

You can say his effort has never been in question, which I somewhat agree with in years past. But not this last year. One could also argue that the effort was there, but the execution wasn't. Sorry. I've seen way too dropped balls (that were easily catchable), way too many times where he flat out gave up on running his route, to think that his effort is what it used to be.

I watched most of them And as the year went on I will agree with what you said some. But how many times did you see him flat out flying up the field to block ect? I think it is more what you said about the execution wasn't there but the effort was. Many times the routes he did run were not designed as much for YAC as they were along the sidelines

[BOOSTED32V]

Well, I don't think they should have cut him, traded his ass for a draft pick, I would rather have a top quality player with no off the field issues then a trouble maker like Pacman. T.O. catches TD's and brings double coverage all of the time, you put T.O. one-on-one with most CB's in the league and it's an automatic TD or big gain, he is still pretty fast in the open field. This is another bitch move by Jerry Jones, just like giving up what he did for RW the reciever.

[regaltip]

Well, I don't think they should have cut him, traded his ass for a draft pick, I would rather have a top quality player with no off the field issues then a trouble maker like Pacman. T.O. catches TD's and brings double coverage all of the time, you put T.O. one-on-one with most CB's in the league and it's an automatic TD or big gain, he is still pretty fast in the open field. This is another bitch move by Jerry Jones, just like giving up what he did for RW the reciever.

If you see theres not much of an open market for TO. Teams aren't flocking to pick him up. There was no way they were going to trade TO for draft picks because his trade value wasn't very good. TO has talent, but drawing the double coverage he did and running his mouth about getting the damn ball would make Romo look his way and he would throw the ball his way in double coverage. TO also wasn't very quick off the line Shawn Springs shut him down last year all by himself!

[Big Studly]

terrible qb thats why but hey you never know maybe now that terrel owens is gone that will change somehow.

he was the only "offensive thread" in Detroit for years and was still less than impressive. I think the jury is still out on him and so far, I am unimpressed. I don't trust him as the go to guy, but he has to produce now if they Cowboys are going to do anything.

[bcoop]

Well, I don't think they should have cut him, traded his ass for a draft pick, I would rather have a top quality player with no off the field issues then a trouble maker like Pacman. T.O. catches TD's and brings double coverage all of the time, you put T.O. one-on-one with most CB's in the league and it's an automatic TD or big gain, he is still pretty fast in the open field. This is another bitch move by Jerry Jones, just like giving up what he did for RW the reciever.

Henry, TO can't beat my grandmother off the line anymore, in 1 on 1 situations. I got so sick of watching that. And as someone else has said, he didn't bring as much double coverage as we all would have liked to think (myself included). If you go back and watch game tape, he drew double coverage about 50-60% of the time. Sure leaves a lot to question, about why he wasn't producing the other 40-50% of the time. Automatic TD in single coverage my fucking ass.

As for why he didn't trade for a pick - Nobody wants him. Jerry found that out during Super Bowl week. That said, I'm sure someone will pick him up, but it wasn't worth draft picks, or else Jerry would have pulled the trigger before now.

[IDAjeff]

Henry, TO can't beat my grandmother off the line anymore, in 1 on 1 situations. I got so sick of watching that. And as someone else has said, he didn't bring as much double coverage as we all would have liked to think (myself included). If you go back and watch game tape, he drew double coverage about 50-60% of the time. Sure leaves a lot to question, about why he wasn't producing the other 40-50% of the time. Automatic TD in single coverage my fucking ass.

ill 2nd that

[bcoop]

he was the only "offensive thread" in Detroit for years and was still less than impressive. I think the jury is still out on him and so far, I am unimpressed. I don't trust him as the go to guy, but he has to produce now if they Cowboys are going to do anything.



I see your point, but I don't necessarily agree with it.


Fact is, he wasn't the only "offensive thread" in Detroit. Detroit has drafted top receivers with their first pick for something like the last 5 years. So yeah, he was supposed to be #1, but the dumbasses calling the shots kept drafting receivers, making Roy have less of an impact. Just look at last year, and the year prior. Roy was supposed to be the clear #1, but the freak Calvin Johnson was the one getting the ball, not Roy. I'm sure if I dug deeper in to it, the same could be said for at least 1 more of those years he spent in Detroit.

Then comes the argument of "Well if he was #1, why wasn't he the first true option, and getting the numbers?" That's arguable, as it could have been literally anything. Maybe he didn't produce, but maybe Kitna and Johnson had better chemistry, etc. There's a hundred different reasons as to the why part of it. I damn sure don't know.


One thing we can agree on, it's put up or shut up time for Roy Williams. Time will tell what he's made of.

[IDAjeff]

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt48/IDAjeff13/TO_Leave_Romo_Alone.jpg

[BOOSTED32V]

If you see theres not much of an open market for TO. Teams aren't flocking to pick him up.
Flocking, the guy got cut last night, as a matter of fact, it was during the Mavericks post game show that Gina Miller broke the news, I then went to the NFLNetwork and ESPN to get it verified at almost 11:00pm, what NFL team is trying to sign a cut player at midnight? :confused:

TO also wasn't very quick off the line Shawn Springs shut him down last year all by himself!I said most CB's and IIRC we won that game in Washington.

[gip99drop]

Who can the Cowboys pick up thats good in the WR position?

[LannyN9NE]

Who can the Cowboys pick up thats good in the WR position?

http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position/players-list-links-position:pos-wr

Nothing is out there really at all.

[Big Studly]

I see your point, but I don't necessarily agree with it.


Fact is, he wasn't the only "offensive thread" in Detroit. Detroit has drafted top receivers with their first pick for something like the last 5 years. So yeah, he was supposed to be #1, but the dumbasses calling the shots kept drafting receivers, making Roy have less of an impact. Just look at last year, and the year prior. Roy was supposed to be the clear #1, but the freak Calvin Johnson was the one getting the ball, not Roy. I'm sure if I dug deeper in to it, the same could be said for at least 1 more of those years he spent in Detroit.

Then comes the argument of "Well if he was #1, why wasn't he the first true option, and getting the numbers?" That's arguable, as it could have been literally anything. Maybe he didn't produce, but maybe Kitna and Johnson had better chemistry, etc. There's a hundred different reasons as to the why part of it. I damn sure don't know.


One thing we can agree on, it's put up or shut up time for Roy Williams. Time will tell what he's made of.

in 2007, Roy E. Williams was not even the leading receiver on the Lions. Yea, that was Calvin Johnsons first year, but some spare named Shaun Johnson or something or other was the leading receiver.

Sorry, but if your #1, wasn't even the leading receiver on his previous team, behind some no-name spare.....I think you might have issues.

[IDAjeff]

if we could hold out for one more year at wr i believe Chad "ocho Cinco" Johnson will be a free agent

[LannyN9NE]

in 2007, Roy E. Williams was not even the leading receiver on the Lions. Yea, that was Calvin Johnsons first year, but some spare named Shaun Johnson or something or other was the leading receiver.

Sorry, but if your #1, wasn't even the leading receiver on his previous team, behind some no-name spare.....I think you might have issues.

Shaun Mcdonald I believe. The one thing you could say about him is he worked with Martz in St. Louis so was a step ahead when it came to Martz's system. Either way not a great thing to see when you are trying to pump up a guy as your number 1

[LannyN9NE]

if we could hold out for one more year at wr i believe Chad "ocho Cinco" Johnson will be a free agent

What is this we bullshit?

[IDAjeff]

i meant cowboys lol

[IDAjeff]

cowboys should pick up lance moore if the saints dont pick him up hes decent or at least drew brees made him look good

[regaltip]

I said most CB's and IIRC we won that game in Washington.

I know without TO. Pretty amazing!

[bcoop]

i meant cowboys lol

You're not even a fan, so shut the fuck up.

[IDAjeff]

lmao its funny how you can go to google and just type in Terrel Owens and Drop and you get hundreds of images

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[BOOSTED32V]

You're not even a fan, so shut the fuck up.

lmao:biggrin:

[IDAjeff]

You're not even a fan, so shut the fuck up.

your right.

GO BRONCOS AND SAINTS!!!!

[BOOSTED32V]

your right.

GO BRONCOS AND SAINTS!!!!LMFAO!:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[Wario]

your right.

Go broncos and saints!!!!


go away!!!

[BCNU]

Addition by subtraction.

[bcoop]

your right.

GO BRONCOS AND SAINTS!!!!



It will be interesting to see which one of those teams will suck more this next season.

[IDAjeff]

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[PhatdowninTx]

Latest rumor floating around is T.O might be next Redskin???? They have been making a huge splash this off season aquiring Haynesworth, resigning Dockery, and having a young good QB in Campbell..

[regaltip]

Good thing that's just a rumor about him going to Washington...

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Cerrato___No_Interest__In_T_O__32731.jsp

[regaltip]

It will be interesting to see which one of those teams will suck more this next season.

I'm going to say the Broncos! :biggrin:

[bert89coupe]

I'LL agree with the work eithic of Williams. That's been known since the day he stepped foot on at UT. MAYBE that'll change, but not likely.


now, you have to remember for all these years Roy has been with the DETROIT FUCKING LIONS!!!!!! Where, let's face it, everything sucks. So if the people sucks around you, it makes you look more sucky. I think we'll see what Roy is made of this season and it damn well could be the same thing as in Detroit. But with a full camp under him to get the routes down, he might surprise some of us.


and it's funny reading Big Studly's stuff because you can see that he wears his ANTI-UT glasses all the fucking time lol At least you're consistant, i'll give you that

[IDAjeff]

It will be interesting to see which one of those teams will suck more this next season.

im going to laugh my ass off when them saints beat the cowboys in there first game... any bets bcoop?

[J&T's 82]

I could see Jerry making a trade for a WR with with one of the 3 starting RB he has. If so, it would have to be Barber because he will bring more than Jones or Choice at this point. Jones is the future anyway as long as he can stay healthy.

[Big Studly]

I'LL agree with the work eithic of Williams. That's been known since the day he stepped foot on at UT. MAYBE that'll change, but not likely.


now, you have to remember for all these years Roy has been with the DETROIT FUCKING LIONS!!!!!! Where, let's face it, everything sucks. So if the people sucks around you, it makes you look more sucky. I think we'll see what Roy is made of this season and it damn well could be the same thing as in Detroit. But with a full camp under him to get the routes down, he might surprise some of us.


and it's funny reading Big Studly's stuff because you can see that he wears his ANTI-UT glasses all the fucking time lol At least you're consistant, i'll give you that

yea, he was with the Lions, but Kitna threw for over 4000 yards two of those years (which was just as many as Romo had two years ago)..granted, Roy's best year was one of those years, but that is it. I still say he has been less than impressive to this point in his career to be touted as the #1 on a "Super Bowl Contender".

As far as the Anti-UT thing...it is well known that I am, but he isn't a Longhorn anymore, he is a Cowboy, I hope he does well and steps up, but just looking at his numbers, it is hard to believe he will. I will say this though, I would like him a little more if he didn't flash the Hook 'em Horn sign after every catch.....I am guessing he is trying to re-live the days when he was relavent in an offense.

[Blown03_GT]

Kitna had to throw for that many yards. It's not like detroit has had a run game since Berry left. Throw the ball is the only choice he had.

[regaltip]

I hear that Chicago might be a team that might show some interest in him.

[Sean88gt]

Good, fuck him.

He'll get picked up by the Raiders.

[Hollywood]

Flocking, the guy got cut last night, as a matter of fact, it was during the Mavericks post game show that Gina Miller broke the news, I then went to the NFLNetwork and ESPN to get it verified at almost 11:00pm, what NFL team is trying to sign a cut player at midnight? :confused:

I said most CB's and IIRC we won that game in Washington.

Henry, the list of teams that would want TO is very very short. Look what SF got for him when he was playing his best. The guy has worn out his welcome in the league even more since then.




He is a locker room menace, anyone thinking otherwise is wearing blinders. There's no way Jerry Jones would cut a guy for no good reason when he goes out of his way to pick up these trouble makers. Some of you can argue all you want, the writing is on the wall, he was creating alot of problems, many of which only those in the locker room got to witness. But even looking at what was reported by the media was enough justification. I said it when the Cowboys got him, he is a cancer, and even the cowboys will eventually get tired of his BS. Well, I didn't think it'd take this long, but I was right. Quit kidding yourself, how can you deny that he is a locker room cancer after SF and Philly got rid of him for the same shit?

[BLKGT]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/spo/1061830901.html

[krazy kris]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/spo/1061830901.html

lol, but I think the price is about 25mil to high

[Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~]

Good riddance! That motherfucker is a joke and is wayyy overrated. He has dropped many passes and IMO isnt worth the money they pay him. A WR like that should be getting it done and its obvious he didnt.

[gip99drop]

I hope the Cowboys can figure out something quick at WR, I don't think Roy Williams is the answer. What about the secondary, they sure need to find some help there and quick.

[bert89coupe]

As far as the Anti-UT thing...it is well known that I am, but he isn't a Longhorn anymore, he is a Cowboy, I hope he does well and steps up, but just looking at his numbers, it is hard to believe he will. I will say this though, I would like him a little more if he didn't flash the Hook 'em Horn sign after every catch.....I am guessing he is trying to re-live the days when he was relavent in an offense.


that's the best part about him, he likes people to know where he came from. It's just too bad for those 4yrs Gregg Davis didn't use him like he should have in early october.


what are the Pro Sooners going to do? Flash the upside down horns? I mean, that's is the Sooner sign, correct?

[Big Studly]

that's the best part about him, he likes people to know where he came from. It's just too bad for those 4yrs Gregg Davis didn't use him like he should have in early october.


what are the Pro Sooners going to do? Flash the upside down horns? I mean, that's is the Sooner sign, correct?

so why doesn't he flash the MoJo sign? I mean, that is where he is really from. I am sorry, but I want the "best" thing about my wide receiver is to catch TD passes, not some hand signal and an over zealous celebration with every first down.

If Adrian Peterson threw up the upside down horns after every play, I would think it is just as retarded. He isn't a Sooner anymore, he is a Viking.

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

in 2007, Roy E. Williams was not even the leading receiver on the Lions. Yea, that was Calvin Johnsons first year, but some spare named Shaun Johnson or something or other was the leading receiver.

Sorry, but if your #1, wasn't even the leading receiver on his previous team, behind some no-name spare.....I think you might have issues.

Don't forget who was throwing him the ball, you have to put that in the equation also. Kitna is garbage. Hard to tell how good some of these guys are when the qb sucks.

[IDAjeff]

Don't forget who was throwing him the ball, you have to put that in the equation also. Kitna is garbage. Hard to tell how good some of these guys are when the qb sucks.

lol you could reverse that statement in kitnas situation that whole team needs help...

[milk]

yall keep down talkin Roy E. Williams......the guy WAS a great football player




fixed






MILK

[Big Studly]

Don't forget who was throwing him the ball, you have to put that in the equation also. Kitna is garbage. Hard to tell how good some of these guys are when the qb sucks.

garbage as in, he threw for over 4000 two seasons in a row with a shitty Detroit team?

Like I said, I don't care what team you are on, if you are supposed to be a #1 receiver, you should have more receiving yards and touchdowns than some guy that nobody remembers.

[Turbo5.4]

i liked TO i knew there was always someone to bitch at or watch make a seen.. :( now what am i supposed to do...

[bert89coupe]

so why doesn't he flash the MoJo sign? I mean, that is where he is really from. I am sorry, but I want the "best" thing about my wide receiver is to catch TD passes, not some hand signal and an over zealous celebration with every first down.

If Adrian Peterson threw up the upside down horns after every play, I would think it is just as retarded. He isn't a Sooner anymore, he is a Viking.



either you're just that slow, or you have no pride what so ever.

[Vertnut]

that's the best part about him, he likes people to know where he came from. It's just too bad for those 4yrs Gregg Davis didn't use him like he should have in early october.


what are the Pro Sooners going to do? Flash the upside down horns? I mean, that's is the Sooner sign, correct?

IF there were any Aggies catching TD passes in the NFL, you'd see "gig 'em" sign's, but, alas...:)

[Big Studly]

either you're just that slow, or you have no pride what so ever.

no, you are just being a biased UT homer....as usual. There is a time and place, and flashing your school's sign, when you are 5 years removed from there, while you are on another team, is just retarded. I can understand something subtle, like a Longhorn stitched to his shoe, or a longhorn undershirt. All of this on top of his spare performances too. I think the guy is a joke until proven otherwise.

[Vertnut]

no, you are just being a biased UT homer....as usual. There is a time and place, and flashing your school's sign, when you are 5 years removed from there, while you are on another team, is just retarded. I can understand something subtle, like a Longhorn stitched to his shoe, or a longhorn undershirt. All of this on top of his spare performances too. I think the guy is a joke until proven otherwise.

Sometimes you just drip with bitterness. Honestly, why would anyone give two shits' about that?

According to the DMN this morning, Jerry was a little pissed off about T.O. calling out Jason Garrett about his play calling ability. Could be as good a reason as any to let him go.

[Big Studly]

Sometimes you just drip with bitterness. Honestly, why would anyone give two shits' about that?

According to the DMN this morning, Jerry was a little pissed off about T.O. calling out Jason Garrett about his play calling ability. Could be as good a reason as any to let him go.

quit being retarded, I am not bitter..it is my opinion that he looks like a jack ass by celebrating his college team for a first down in the NFL. Maybe if he was a little bit better of a player, I wouldn't care, but to date, he is a fucking spare and looks stupid.

[bcoop]

Sometimes you just drip with bitterness. Honestly, why would anyone give two shits' about that?


I think it's retarded as well. And yes, I'd think AD or any other Sooner was just as retarded as well. Yeah, you went to school there. Everyone knows that already.


And if you can honestly sit there and say Roy doesn't overcelebrate first downs, you're blind. Save that shit for the touchdowns, man. I don't mind the celebrations at all. But at the very least, do it when it's called for. You got a first down slick, you didn't win the fucking Super Bowl. Call me bitter all you want, but it has nothing to do with that. I like Roy Williams, was a supporter of him coming here, etc. It has nothing to do with me being an OU fan.



According to the DMN this morning, Jerry was a little pissed off about T.O. calling out Jason Garrett about his play calling ability. Could be as good a reason as any to let him go.



If this is the real reason they cut him, Jerry's a fucking idiot. I'm betting there was a hell of a lot mroe behind this, though. Fuck, man. SOMEONE had to call that little bitch Garrett out. He fucking sucks, and it needed to be said. Everyone's been all up on his nuts thinking he's God's gift to football, up until the season ended and Romo and TO called him out. Give the man a fucking bonus for saying what nobody else had the balls to say. Jerry obviously wasn't going to do it.

[bert89coupe]

no, you are just being a biased UT homer....as usual. There is a time and place, and flashing your school's sign, when you are 5 years removed from there, while you are on another team, is just retarded. I can understand something subtle, like a Longhorn stitched to his shoe, or a longhorn undershirt. All of this on top of his spare performances too. I think the guy is a joke until proven otherwise.




LMFAO, and you're just being the hater you are. It's ok, we ALL know how you are. We would expect nothing less from you.

[Vertnut]

quit being retarded, I am not bitter..it is my opinion that he looks like a jack ass by celebrating his college team for a first down in the NFL. Maybe if he was a little bit better of a player, I wouldn't care, but to date, he is a fucking spare and looks stupid.

If Wes Welker wants to do "guns up", who REALLY gives a fuck. Grow up, man. Damn.

[bert89coupe]

If Wes Welker wants to do "guns up", who REALLY gives a fuck. Grow up, man. Damn.




exactly, so he would be proud of where he went to college, big deal.

[BLKGT]

I hear that Chicago might be a team that might show some interest in him.

id pay to see Urlacher beat him in

[IDAjeff]

hed probably smash urlacher and tell him to get the fuck out

[Big Studly]

If Wes Welker wants to do "guns up", who REALLY gives a fuck. Grow up, man. Damn.

that would be just as fucking retarded....

There is a reason that he is the only player in the NFL that does it, because it is fucking stupid.

[Big Studly]

exactly, so he would be proud of where he went to college, big deal.

there is a way to do it without looking like a moron, REW has failed at that.

[SVT Lurch]

I've seen other players do their college thing too.

[Big Studly]

I've seen other players do their college thing too.

who and when? I have never seen anyone else do it.

[milk]

I think it's retarded as well. And yes, I'd think AD or any other Sooner was just as retarded as well. Yeah, you went to school there. Everyone knows that already.


And if you can honestly sit there and say Roy doesn't overcelebrate first downs, you're blind. Save that shit for the touchdowns, man. I don't mind the celebrations at all. But at the very least, do it when it's called for. You got a first down slick, you didn't win the fucking Super Bowl. Call me bitter all you want, but it has nothing to do with that. I like Roy Williams, was a supporter of him coming here, etc. It has nothing to do with me being an OU fan.




If this is the real reason they cut him, Jerry's a fucking idiot. I'm betting there was a hell of a lot mroe behind this, though. Fuck, man. SOMEONE had to call that little bitch Garrett out. He fucking sucks, and it needed to be said. Everyone's been all up on his nuts thinking he's God's gift to football, up until the season ended and Romo and TO called him out. Give the man a fucking bonus for saying what nobody else had the balls to say. Jerry obviously wasn't going to do it.



X2 Garret should have been the first to go. Then Wade then Jerry Jones as GM.

MILK

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

X2 Garret should have been the first to go. Then Wade then Jerry Jones as GM.

MILK

I am glad they released TO....now maybe he can play for a GOOD TEAM! COWBOYS SUCK!

[SVT Lurch]

who and when? I have never seen anyone else do it.

I've seen a lot of Texas guys put up their horns. Don't remember when exactly.

[Big Studly]

I've seen a lot of Texas guys put up their horns. Don't remember when exactly.

oh, well that explains it......

[IDAjeff]

fuck wade phillips the cowboys need mike shanahan haha

[bert89coupe]

oh, well that explains it......




i find it no different than when somebody is introducing themselves and they say THE university of ohio st. or the U for miami. But i'm sure that's retarded to your sooner ass too.

[LannyN9NE]

i find it no different than when somebody is introducing themselves and they say THE university of ohio st. or the U for miami. But i'm sure that's retarded to your sooner ass too.

I think that is different. In that situation they are supposed to say who they are and where they played.

[Big Studly]

I think that is different. In that situation they are supposed to say who they are and where they played.

novel concept...

apparently the dumb fuck doesn't know what "time and place" means.

[bert89coupe]

I think that is different. In that situation they are supposed to say who they are and where they played.



not quit, i take it as the osu players putting THE infront of their name or the miami players just saying the U is like hand signs. Sense they don't have hand signs i guess this would be their way.


oh, and i know this sounds retarded, just seeing if studly can see how he sounds most of the time. Probably not.


it's friday though, and i'm done with this considering we're getting way off topic now lol

[Big Studly]

not quit, i take it as the osu players putting THE infront of their name or the miami players just saying the U is like hand signs. Sense they don't have hand signs i guess this would be their way.


oh, and i know this sounds retarded, just seeing if studly can see how he sounds most of the time. Probably not.


it's friday though, and i'm done with this considering we're getting way off topic now lol

sound retarded? At least I can type a legible sentence or two. Anyone that reads your first sentence would think English is your second language. I would say quit being a dumb ass, but everyone knows that isn't possible for you.

Chalk it up, another unintelligent argument from a UT fan swatted back behind the half court line by Big Studly.

[tho]

only read the first page of this thread......everybody trying to figure out who the are going to get as their new *STAR* reciever....you can have Randy Moss, Jerry Rice (back in the day), and whoever else you want, but if the QB cant get them the ball whats the point in trying to get them

Example number 1...DETROIT, remember these guys 0-16 they had Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams, so how did they manage to lose all their games???

Answer.....bad offensive line, bad defensive line, bad RB, bad secondary....sure Jon Kitna is decent but in this league decent doesnt win anymore(unless your playing against the cowboys)

personally i think getting rid of TO is the best thing the cowboys have done in years, their offense is great when they are on, their defense WAS respectably well, now without Cris Canty, Anthony Henry, and Safety Roy Williams(sucked) sure they still have some good players (ware, ellis, witten, williams) but four guys cant do everything i would much rather see them trade ellis or another player that has payed their dues and is good, and get a first round draft pick or two, go ahead and take this season as a rebuilding season much like miami has done

#1 get a top rate QB, go after Matt Cassel or hell even Tom Brady, the pats cant afford to keep them both


***RANT OVER***

[JMAC]

#1 get a top rate QB, go after Matt Cassel or hell even Tom Brady, the pats cant afford to keep them both


***RANT OVER***Where the fuck have you been?

[LannyN9NE]

only read the first page of this thread......everybody trying to figure out who the are going to get as their new *STAR* reciever....you can have Randy Moss, Jerry Rice (back in the day), and whoever else you want, but if the QB cant get them the ball whats the point in trying to get them

Example number 1...DETROIT, remember these guys 0-16 they had Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams, so how did they manage to lose all their games???

Answer.....bad offensive line, bad defensive line, bad RB, bad secondary....sure Jon Kitna is decent but in this league decent doesnt win anymore(unless your playing against the cowboys)

personally i think getting rid of TO is the best thing the cowboys have done in years, their offense is great when they are on, their defense WAS respectably well, now without Cris Canty, Anthony Henry, and Safety Roy Williams(sucked) sure they still have some good players (ware, ellis, witten, williams) but four guys cant do everything i would much rather see them trade ellis or another player that has payed their dues and is good, and get a first round draft pick or two, go ahead and take this season as a rebuilding season much like miami has done

#1 get a top rate QB, go after Matt Cassel or hell even Tom Brady, the pats cant afford to keep them both


***RANT OVER***

You are either insane or dumb if you think they can get one let alone two first round picks for Ellis. To top it off last I checked Cassel was sent to KC a week ago.

[Hollywood]

in 2007, Roy E. Williams was not even the leading receiver on the Lions. Yea, that was Calvin Johnsons first year, but some spare named Shaun Johnson or something or other was the leading receiver.

Sorry, but if your #1, wasn't even the leading receiver on his previous team, behind some no-name spare.....I think you might have issues.

Roy was the leading receiver in the NFC in 2006.