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BOOSTED32V

02-28-2009, 09:19 PM

Seems they traded Anthony Henry to the Lions, he is a good QB but I would have rather had C.Simms. :(

Txstang1

02-28-2009, 09:30 PM

gotta be better than B.Johnson......I think.

Mr. B

02-28-2009, 10:05 PM

02-28-2009, 10:20 PM

I've always liked Kitna but they really need to sign a young QB to keep Romo on his toes. They also picked up Keith Brooking from Atlanta.

Moose Jr

03-01-2009, 08:29 AM

They needed someone like Leftwich who could at least put pressure on Romo to perform better. Romo will not be worried about Kitna ever taking his job. If I could think of the next worst backup QB behind Brad Johnson it would probably be John Kitna.

Really? Leftwich? Leftwich lost the starting job in J'ville because he was hurt all the time. When he came back he was never the same and was cut. He's not going to pressure Romo. Hey, at least he's got a superbowl ring.

11sec4eyes

03-01-2009, 03:31 PM

I would lmao if he took the starting job from romo, although I dont think it will happen.

ZYouL8R

03-01-2009, 04:22 PM

So who exactly are going to be the starting CBs now that Anthony Henry and Pacman are gone? I don't think T New can cover both sides of the field.

LannyN9NE

03-01-2009, 09:48 PM

Out of what is available I don't think there really is a better option out there. Atleast they took care of it quick and didn't wait around and end up with an option like Brad Johnson.

Badass2000gt

03-01-2009, 10:00 PM

So who exactly are going to be the starting CBs now that Anthony Henry and Pacman are gone? I don't think T New can cover both sides of the field.

What the hell was that rookie CB that played pretty well. Fuck my mind went blank.:smashfreakB:

BLK306

03-01-2009, 10:23 PM

What the hell was that rookie CB that played pretty well. Fuck my mind went blank.:smashfreakB:

Scandrik and Jenkins

Mr. B

03-01-2009, 10:28 PM

Really? Leftwich? Leftwich lost the starting job in J'ville because he was hurt all the time. When he came back he was never the same and was cut. He's not going to pressure Romo. Hey, at least he's got a superbowl ring.

Seriously? Did you see Leftwich come in and play for Pittsburgh? He played in five games and had a QB rating of 104.3! I know he didn't light it up or anything, but he did a great job. The papers in Pittsburgh said big Ben came back before he was 100% because he didn't want to lose his job. Leftwich is about the only one out there that could be a starter for somebody.

Kitna barely broke a QB rating of 80 in 2007, and last year he only played in four games. He's also pretty much 50/50 for TD/INT ratio for his career. Leftwich is way on the plus side for TD's. He's also eight years younger than Kitna. I'm not really a Leftwich fan or anything. Go to NFL.com though and look at the available FA QB's and see if there's anything better. I looked, and there ain't much there when you consider the players that would actually agree to be Romo's backup.

And BTW, losing a your job because of injury is different from losing it because you just can't play. Leftwich lost his job in Jacksonville because of injury, and Garrard came in and played really well. Garrard and Leftwich have similar numbers except that Garrard is a better runner. Leftwich had a lot of hype around him which might have made people expect more out of him than he could deliver. He was a top ten draft pick (number seven in 2003 I think) and was a legend at Marshall. I think he's second in the school's all time records list only to Chad Pennington. He also had that game where he played on a broken shin, being carried down the field by his linemen after each play.

Badass2000gt

03-01-2009, 10:58 PM

Scandrik and Jenkins

Jenkins is the one I was thinking of. At least I think he is better then scandrik.

Big Studly

03-01-2009, 11:23 PM

Jenkins is the one I was thinking of. At least I think he is better then scandrik.

you got it backwards

and give me Kitna over Chris Simms and Byron Leftwich any day. One is a has been (if he ever really was), and one is a never gonna be. At least Kitna has been around a while with moderate success.

LannyN9NE

03-02-2009, 01:10 AM

Seriously? Did you see Leftwich come in and play for Pittsburgh? He played in five games and had a QB rating of 104.3! I know he didn't light it up or anything, but he did a great job. The papers in Pittsburgh said big Ben came back before he was 100% because he didn't want to lose his job. Leftwich is about the only one out there that could be a starter for somebody.

Kitna barely broke a QB rating of 80 in 2007, and last year he only played in four games. He's also pretty much 50/50 for TD/INT ratio for his career. Leftwich is way on the plus side for TD's. He's also eight years younger than Kitna. I'm not really a Leftwich fan or anything. Go to NFL.com though and look at the available FA QB's and see if there's anything better. I looked, and there ain't much there when you consider the players that would actually agree to be Romo's backup.

And BTW, losing a your job because of injury is different from losing it because you just can't play. Leftwich lost his job in Jacksonville because of injury, and Garrard came in and played really well. Garrard and Leftwich have similar numbers except that Garrard is a better runner. Leftwich had a lot of hype around him which might have made people expect more out of him than he could deliver. He was a top ten draft pick (number seven in 2003 I think) and was a legend at Marshall. I think he's second in the school's all time records list only to Chad Pennington. He also had that game where he played on a broken shin, being carried down the field by his linemen after each play.

I do like Leftwich but he also wants to go to a team that has an open competition for the starting job. He is entitled to that right and more than likely won't give until he has no other option. Kitna for his career has been a stop gap in Seattle (Hasselback) and in Cincinnati (Palmer) then went to Detroit where I don't care who you are you are not doing much with what they have had there. The guy is confident and I think the best thing he could bring to the Cowboys is he is professional in his approach for the game. Palmer credited him mostly for being able to step in and produce his first year as a starter. With all of that in mind and the fact that if he is not asked to play 10 games next year for the Cowboys I think it is a win-win situation for the team. He can produce when called upon and as far as contract has a minimal hit on the salary cap.

Vertnut

03-02-2009, 07:03 AM

And now Canty is gone to the Giants...bad for the 'Boy's. Don't let inter-conference teams get an impact player you have to face 2-3 times a season.

regaltip

03-02-2009, 07:32 AM

What Parcells built is being dismantled pretty fast!

Big Studly

03-02-2009, 08:02 AM

And now Canty is gone to the Giants...bad for the 'Boy's. Don't let inter-conference teams get an impact player you have to face 2-3 times a season.

yea, I found that kind of strange....

bcoop

03-02-2009, 08:58 AM

I'm not happy with a single move they've made. In fact, I think they've all been absolutely fucking retarded.

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 09:41 AM

and that would be typical cowboys haha

Yellowstang

03-02-2009, 09:45 AM

Shit, trade one of the good Defensive players and a good draft to Denver for Cutler. That guy is a fucken cry baby!

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 09:54 AM

who cutler?

yea right id be heated also after the way i played last season the kid has a arm i think he broke a couple of elways records also last season....hed play better then romo imo

Badass2000gt

03-02-2009, 10:15 AM

I'm not happy with a single move they've made. In fact, I think they've all been absolutely fucking retarded.

That's Jerry Jones for ya. Fucking dumbass:smashfreakB:

Yellowstang

03-02-2009, 10:18 AM

who cutler?

yea right id be heated also after the way i played last season the kid has a arm i think he broke a couple of elways records also last season....hed play better then romo imo

Yeah, he can be good, but he can be awful too. If he has a bad play , he just can't seem to get over it. He also thorws too many int's in the red zone IMO.

regaltip

03-02-2009, 10:41 AM

Cutler had the Broncos winning at the wrong time. They were ahead of San Diego and they came back and knocked the Broncos out of the playoffs! So really check your facts before you speak.

TOMMY

03-02-2009, 11:21 AM

Henry has sucked for the pass 2 seasons....I would say Jenkins was going to be the starter but he is scared to tackle...So I'm leaning towards Scandrick as the starter.

As far as Kitna...Romo doesn't fear him..Kitna was only brought here as a backup only incase Romo gets hurt again. Unlike Brad, Kitna still has strong arm...so we should be ok if Romo goes down again.

What I'm worried about is Jerry going after Vick...I think Vick should be allowed to play again but just not in Dallas.

bcoop

03-02-2009, 11:33 AM

This is just fucking retarded, on so many levels, it's not even funny. I get more pissed the more I think about it.

First - You don't trade a starter for a washed up backup, ever. You don't even pull shit like that on Madden.

Second - They need to be preparing for the release/trade of Roy Williams. They came out and said that they were looking to trade, but if he can't be traded, he'll be released. I read an article last week that said Henry had stepped up and volunteered to play safety, once Roy was released. So they go trade the one guy on the team that's willing to play safety? Ignorant!

Third - Kitna was going to be released. Why in the FUCK do you trade a fucking STARTER, for someone that's going to get released anyways? Why not hang on to the starter, and pick his Jesus loving ass up after Detroit releases him?

Fourth - Could they seriously not get more for Henry? I know he's no superstar, but he's a fucking starter. No picks? Just a straight up trade? That's just fucking stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.

Jerry needs to let Stephen take the reigns, as far as GM duties go.

Badass2000gt

03-02-2009, 11:37 AM

regaltip

03-02-2009, 11:38 AM

Yeah and then not signing Canty was stupid too.

Badass2000gt

03-02-2009, 11:41 AM

Yeah and then not signing Canty was stupid too.

What was stupid was the firing of Jimmy Johnson. I knew from there on the cowboys were going in a downward spiral and I was correct. And it was all Jerry Jones's fault.

regaltip

03-02-2009, 11:44 AM

Jerry has too much pride to admit he made a mistake. He should have stuck with Jimmy and let him bring in the talent b/c Jerry as GM is just plain retarded!

Yellowstang

03-02-2009, 12:53 PM

Cutler had the Broncos winning at the wrong time. They were ahead of San Diego and they came back and knocked the Broncos out of the playoffs! So really check your facts before you speak.

Who are you refering too?

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 12:55 PM

regaltip

03-02-2009, 01:04 PM

lol what point were you tryin to prove? cause im just confused by your statement

Read your posts your giving Jay Cutler more credit than what he is due. Your stating he plays better than Romo because he broke Elways records? Seriously you think that Cutler is better than Romo come out with a better arguement then Elways records in Denver.

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 01:09 PM

well i didnt mean it like that but romo is trash get him the fuck out of dallas.....

and yes i think cutlers arm is better then romo and decision making skills lol

regaltip

03-02-2009, 01:12 PM

well i didnt mean it like that but romo is trash get him the fuck out of dallas.....

and yes i think cutlers arm is better then romo and decision making skills lol

Dude you obviously don't know football.

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 01:16 PM

you obviously suck on romos cock

bcoop

03-02-2009, 01:17 PM

you obviously suck on romos cock

Nope, you just don't know shit about football. Feel free to leave anytime.

Yellowstang

03-02-2009, 01:19 PM

Cutler isn't all bad, but part of the reason he threw for so many yards was the lack of a running game. Denver had 7 of them put on IR last season. He just pisses me off when he gets all pouty and tosses INT's, then goes to the sideline and looks like he wants his Mommy.

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 01:20 PM

and romo doesnt? lmao

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 01:23 PM

id be willin to bet cutler makes more out of his career then romo will ever

Yellowstang

03-02-2009, 01:31 PM

and romo doesnt? lmao

I don't watch near as many Cowboy games as I do Bronco games, and I am not saying Romo is better than Cutler. I just want Denver to get someone else. He is like Favre, thinks his strong arm can throw it to anyone, no mater what the coverage is.

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 01:34 PM

when you have brandon marshall why not?

Big Studly

03-02-2009, 02:02 PM

when you have brandon marshall why not?

uh oh.....

and Cutler should just shut the fuck up and go cry his diabetic tears in a pillow of insulin

regaltip

03-02-2009, 02:17 PM

uh oh.....

And cutler should just shut the fuck up and go cry his diabetic tears in a pillow of insulin

lmao!

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 05:11 PM

lol....lets make fun of kids that are diabetic since its the cool thing to do

brandon marshall > T.O. ol cry me a river lookin ass

regaltip

03-02-2009, 05:25 PM

Brandon Marshall won't stack up the same numbers TO has in his entire career. Dude seriously your starting to sound like some of the other Jackasses that have come here put the foot in their mouths and never came back. Better yet do yourself the favor and just stop talking about something you have no idea about.

IDAjeff

03-02-2009, 05:37 PM

why? the past is the past do something now

LannyN9NE

03-02-2009, 11:28 PM

lol....lets make fun of kids that are diabetic since its the cool thing to do

brandon marshall > T.O. ol cry me a river lookin ass

And yet TO stays away from the cops. Makes you go hmmmm. Marshall is a great talent but he idolizes TO and has said he wants to be the next TO. That alone should tell you something.

Vertnut

03-03-2009, 05:35 AM

id be willin to bet cutler makes more out of his career then romo will ever

Cutler's a crybaby. They tend to get weeded out in the NFL.

bcoop

03-03-2009, 12:15 PM

Rob, you and Sean might get your wish. Looks like the Vikings are trying to strike a deal with Denver for Cutler. If that falls through, Detroit reportedly wants him.

Big Studly

03-03-2009, 12:39 PM

why? the past is the past do something now

you mean like get suspended for some games for geating up his fiance'?

tho

03-04-2009, 12:24 AM

So who exactly are going to be the starting CBs now that Anthony Henry and Pacman are gone? I don't think T New can cover both sides of the field.

hell, Jerry Jones likes the old players....lets try and get Mr. Neon Deion out of retirement.....gotta be better than pacman lol

i think kitna might have the leadership abilities that romo lacks, sure he gets along with everyone on the team but there is nobody out there willing to stand up and crack down on those guys when times get rough, its the same way on defense we need a Ray Lewis or some other good leader to grab the guys by the balls and make them play

wade obviously isnt cracking down, one of the veteran players should sack up be a leader

enough ranting...GO COWBOYS!!!

Badass2000gt

03-04-2009, 07:00 AM

hell, Jerry Jones likes the old players....lets try and get Mr. Neon Deion out of retirement.....gotta be better than pacman lol

i think kitna might have the leadership abilities that romo lacks, sure he gets along with everyone on the team but there is nobody out there willing to stand up and crack down on those guys when times get rough, its the same way on defense we need a Ray Lewis or some other good leader to grab the guys by the balls and make them play

wade obviously isnt cracking down, one of the veteran players should sack up be a leader

enough ranting...GO COWBOYS!!!

And you think the players will listen to a backup QB? I don't think so.

tho

03-08-2009, 08:34 PM

i meant that i think he will take romos starting spot

RyanB

03-08-2009, 09:34 PM

i meant that i think he will take romos starting spot

You're a fucking idiot then.

LannyN9NE

03-08-2009, 10:31 PM

i meant that i think he will take romos starting spot

If you think that you are delusional. You really think an average quarterback, at best, that has been out of the league 2 years and is not even sure if he will get reinstated should be brought in to take over the starting spot?

Badass2000gt

03-08-2009, 10:55 PM

If you think that you are delusional. You really think an average quarterback, at best, that has been out of the league 2 years and is not even sure if he will get reinstated should be brought in to take over the starting spot?

Why was he out of the league for two years?

LannyN9NE

03-09-2009, 11:50 AM

Why was he out of the league for two years?

Because he was in prison?

Badass2000gt

03-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Because he was in prison?

Really? For what?

LannyN9NE

03-10-2009, 11:49 AM

Really? For what?

Dog fighting?

Badass2000gt

03-10-2009, 11:57 AM

Dog fighting?

yeah ok:asshole:

LannyN9NE

03-10-2009, 12:38 PM

yeah ok:asshole:

:bling1:

Kaji

03-14-2009, 10:03 AM

You guys do know why the cowboys were good back then don't you? There was no salary cap and they bought up every good player around because they had the money. NY Yankees of football.

LannyN9NE

03-14-2009, 07:14 PM

You guys do know why the cowboys were good back then don't you? There was no salary cap and they bought up every good player around because they had the money. NY Yankees of football.

So with the salary cap put in place for the 1994 season how do you explain winning in 94 and 96?

RyanB

03-14-2009, 08:43 PM

So with the salary cap put in place for the 1994 season how do you explain winning in 94 and 96?

If I remember correctly the cap was "phased in" and current contracts were not held to the same standards. The Cowboys dominance was one of the reasons the NFL tried so hard to get a salary cap.

LannyN9NE

03-14-2009, 11:13 PM

If I remember correctly the cap was "phased in" and current contracts were not held to the same standards. The Cowboys dominance was one of the reasons the NFL tried so hard to get a salary cap.

If you look it up the hard cap was completely effective in 1994. As you know I am not a Cowboy fan, just trying to keep things going.