Looking at a safe...

[evil jose]

What do you guys think of this for the price?

Price and specs in link.
Centurion by Liberty (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=291281-10283-CN-20%20BK&lpage=none)

http://images.lowes.com/product/647346/647346230885.jpg

[03trubluGT]

That safe is comparable to this one, but at a better price.


http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11312440&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=&lang=en-US&s=1

But, the Costco safe has an electrical supply port.

Either of those would be good, but I'd definately bolt something that only weighs 450 to the wall.

[5111]

I've checked out some Centurions at Sports Authority and feel like they are not great quality. I had a hard time turning the dials on all of them compared to some of the other brands in stock. It may be fine, but try and see it in person before buying.

[mk5.0]

There is a safe wholesaler on I-35 outside waco. I will swing by tomorrow and see if I can get the number.

[futant]

my brother has that safe and he likes it. Lots of room
I agree though, bolt it down, no doubt.

[saleen781]

check out Champion safes, I was thinking of getting one myself soon. They have one that is around $1300 powdercoated, delivered and set up. It had a 1500 degree 60 minute burn time protection. They also have smaller/larger safes, located in Garland I beleive.

[spankustang]

Have you looked at the Cabelas brand safes?
They are very nice AND reasonably priced!

[mk5.0]

http://www.securityproducts1.com/

I heard they are pretty good safes..

[5.0_CJ]

I hope you guys are running separate insurance policies for all your firearms, since most home insurance doesn't cover firearms over $2,500.

[loc712]

Cabelas brand are Liberty and Champion.

[Fox466]

A friend is a firefighter, who said that these gun safes and their fire ratings are laughable, as a fire quickly beats 2000 degrees. Any one know how true that is?

[03trubluGT]

A friend is a firefighter, who said that these gun safes and their fire ratings are laughable, as a fire quickly beats 2000 degrees. Any one know how true that is?

Safes are rated by UL standards. I think the standards are on the low side, but they are enough to impress those that really don't know the anatomy of fire.

The safe maker's logic is that the fire will be detected early, the FD will arrive promptly, and successfully extinguish the fire.

But then again, your valuables are MUCH better protected in the safe than in the closet...

[evil jose]

A friend is a firefighter, who said that these gun safes and their fire ratings are laughable, as a fire quickly beats 2000 degrees. Any one know how true that is?

Something I need to think about than. I'm doing away with my bank safety deposit box and opting to keep everything at home so I guess I better not skimp and look at something more expensive :(

I do live down the street from the fire department though :)

[8mpg]

my parents have a Liberty and it is a great safe. Very large (had to take the door casings off to fit it through the door) and lots of room. I think it is great quality. The dial is very smooth and the safe opens great. It is a heavy SOB.

I believe this is the model they have:
http://www.libertysafe.com/safe_lincoln.php

[loc712]

Liberty and most other safe manufacturers actually over test. Liberty has their own oven to test in, they test theirs and their competitors. Their is usually a video running @ Cabelas. Iv'e seen Many gunsafes after fires where there is nothing left but a smoking heep of smoldering shit with a gun safe sticking out of it and if it is UL fire rated you can count on it saving your stuff if you have it opened promptly after the fire. During the fire the insulation in the walls release moisture to keep the contents cool , if you wait a day or 2 or 10 all your guns are rusted to death and all you other stuff is dripping


Liberty or American Security Products(amsec). are the best in the $1000 to $3000 range. Liberty Presidential or the Amsec BF series are both pretty tuff.

[topher]

PM sent.

[Fox466]

PM sent.


Looking for a safe as well. Forward that pm?

[Fox466]

Something I need to think about than. I'm doing away with my bank safety deposit box and opting to keep everything at home so I guess I better not skimp and look at something more expensive :(

I do live down the street from the fire department though :)


Smoke detectors tied into the alarm system rock... :cool2:

[OC]

Looking for a safe as well. Forward that pm?

Ditto

[sleeperLS]

I need to look into them as well. I did not know about the ul code listings. Thanks for the info guys.

[01YZ2NV]

With the fire rating you really need to look at time. If it's rated at 2000 deg. for 30 min. thats pretty good. That fire is NOT going to burn at 2000 or above for 30 min. Not unless it has a huge fire load or chemicals or something helpin it along. When its burning at those temps that is called flashover, all the rooms contents are burning. It burns quick, and then dies with no fuel left to burn. So pay attention to the time and you should be good.:fing02:

[03trubluGT]

My Heritage safe is rated at 1374 degrees for 30 minutes with the internal temp not to exceed 235 degrees.

It's UL listed as a Residential Security Safe 1R87, wtf that means....