View Full Version : Best bang for buck????
ELP89stang
01-10-2009, 07:06 AM
I was looking around for a decent 9mm pistol and decided on either the ruger p89, a s&w sigma 9mm or a taurus 24/7 9mm ss. What do you gun gurus say about these three???
ELP89stang
01-10-2009, 07:13 AM
Or a PT-92 ??? What you guys think???
propellerhead
01-10-2009, 07:21 AM
Put in a couple more $100 and you'll be in the Glock & XD price range.
1lo94
01-10-2009, 08:19 AM
Put in a couple more $100 and you'll be in the Glock & XD price range.
i agree most of those guns arent very good i would spend a little extra and get a xd or glock
What do you want it for, in house, concealed carry?
ScottsMach03
01-10-2009, 08:38 AM
I was looking around for a decent 9mm pistol and decided on either the ruger p89, a s&w sigma 9mm or a taurus 24/7 9mm ss. What do you gun gurus say about these three???
I have both the p89 and 24/7 you cant go wrong with either. I would stay away from the sigma. Positives on the p89 it can except 30rd's mags and positive on the 24/7 is its lighter so it would be suitable for concealing.
ScottsMach03
01-10-2009, 08:42 AM
Put in a couple more $100 and you'll be in the Glock & XD price range.
Lol, I love the typical glock or xd comments. Ive own a g32 for along time and can say that my 24/7 or p89 is just as good. I would put my life on it. Ive also owned a springfield 1911; it jammed on me everytime I shot it, so i sold it for the g32.
Ive had my p89 and 24/7 for over 6 years and with several thousand rounds through each not one single jam.
ELP89stang
01-10-2009, 02:19 PM
well the gun is mainly want it for in house and once in a while going to the range and shooting it. Whats the major pros that the glock and the xd have over lets say the p89 and the 24/7???
whitetrash
01-10-2009, 03:01 PM
1. you get what you pay for.
i have a friend with a tourus and it shoots ok but i absolutely hate the trigger. i would never buy one for that reason.
go to a range a rent a few. it will cost a little but better than buying a gun and not liking it
AXE168
01-10-2009, 03:17 PM
1. you get what you pay for.
i have a friend with a tourus and it shoots ok but i absolutely hate the trigger. i would never buy one for that reason.
go to a range a rent a few. it will cost a little but better than buying a gun and not liking it
X2
Go to the range a shoot a couple and see what fits your hands the best
Vertnut
01-10-2009, 03:18 PM
Lol, I love the typical glock or xd comments. Ive own a g32 for along time and can say that my 24/7 or p89 is just as good. I would put my life on it. Ive also owned a springfield 1911; it jammed on me everytime I shot it, so i sold it for the g32.
Ive had my p89 and 24/7 for over 6 years and with several thousand rounds through each not one single jam.
A Springfield 1911 ain't no XD...
MotoMan
01-10-2009, 03:23 PM
Ive also owned a springfield 1911; it jammed on me everytime I shot it, so i sold it for the g32.
There can be many reasons for a 1911 to jam, if it was a brand new gun then you'll need at least a good 300 rounds through before it's really broken in, it could also be a user error too. One of the things I've come to realize after shooting a 1911 for so long is it'll let you know when you're doing something wrong.
ScottsMach03
01-10-2009, 03:47 PM
There can be many reasons for a 1911 to jam, if it was a brand new gun then you'll need at least a good 300 rounds through before it's really broken in, it could also be a user error too. One of the things I've come to realize after shooting a 1911 for so long is it'll let you know when you're doing something wrong.
It jammed on the guy I sold it to and he ended up having to buy a new extractor. I dont know if that ever fixed the problem.
ScottsMach03
01-10-2009, 03:51 PM
A Springfield 1911 ain't no XD...
Ok. Still not impressed. Ive been around a few xd's and have put several hundred rounds through them; there just another polymer gun to me. I dont see a reason why to jump on the XD bandwagon and spend 599.00 when you can get a good pistol which will do the same thing(go bang) for cheaper. Ive had my share of high dollar pistols and I still have a few, but i guess ive smarten up a bit when it comes to spending money on firearms.
Skidonenko
01-10-2009, 04:43 PM
Ok. Still not impressed. Ive been around a few xd's and have put several hundred rounds through them; there just another polymer gun to me. I dont see a reason why to jump on the XD bandwagon and spend 599.00 when you can get a good pistol which will do the same thing(go bang) for cheaper. Ive had my share of high dollar pistols and I still have a few, but i guess ive smarten up a bit when it comes to spending money on firearms.
It was not that high dollar when I bought mine only dropped $400. If you get a large enough demand for a gun dealers will charge more. I can see the 24/7 doing the same thing the xd did price wise. Sucks you had a bad experience with the 1911, my springfield GI champion has ben awsome and is my main carry pistol (it is more slim than the XD). If you look at most any pistol or hell any car out there you will find someone that had something fail, but you will also find the people that abused it and had not problems at all.
To the OP find a range that rents them or some people that have them and shoot the shit out of them
FatassLX
01-10-2009, 04:57 PM
24/7 pro.
sleeperLS
01-10-2009, 05:09 PM
The cool thing about the p89 is when you run out of ammo you can club them with it. I owned a p95 for a while sold it to a guy on the forums. I never had a ftf or fte. It was a great gun for a first pistol.
ELP89stang
01-10-2009, 05:13 PM
1. you get what you pay for.
i have a friend with a tourus and it shoots ok but i absolutely hate the trigger. i would never buy one for that reason.
go to a range a rent a few. it will cost a little but better than buying a gun and not liking it
Thats a smart idea didnt pass threw my head will do that.
propellerhead
01-10-2009, 06:09 PM
well the gun is mainly want it for in house and once in a while going to the range and shooting it. Whats the major pros that the glock and the xd have over lets say the p89 and the 24/7???All those guns have triggers. All those guns have barrels. All those guns have magazine releases. All those guns have slide locks. It kind of becomes a personal choice really. The slide locks are in different locations. The magazine releases are different. Some guns feel nose heavy. Some feel too fat around the grip. Some are better made than others. It's hard to pin point specific items without you actually having the gun in front of you. A lot of it is about what feels right for you. If you are trying to stay in the $300 range, you won't have many choices. Bump your price range up a bit and you'll have many more to choose from.
The same advice applies to all new gun buyers. Go to the gun rental place with someone who knows something about different hand guns. Touch and feel the different ones and ask questions. Try not to go with a Glock die hard or an XD fanatic. Narrow your choices down to a few that feel right in your hand, then shoot those. At the end of that exercise, you'll have the gun that's right for you. It took me 3-4 trips to the range to pick the XD over the Glock. I rented both and shot both multiple times.
ELP89stang
01-10-2009, 06:27 PM
ima go down to the gun club this coming Friday and see if they have good choices to rent from. hopefully this will trip will let me see which one i prefer
Cobra Commander
01-10-2009, 06:45 PM
I have both the p89 and 24/7 you cant go wrong with either. I would stay away from the sigma. Positives on the p89 it can except 30rd's mags and positive on the 24/7 is its lighter so it would be suitable for concealing.
I totally agree with you. I don't understand why people talk down on ruger p89-or-p94 pistols :wtf1:. Its heavy but a very durable inexpensive gun that is very accurate. I bought the Taurus 24/7 pro in .40 cal for my wife, and its a very good quality gun for the money. It has so many features especially safety, and again another good bang for the buck gun.
Vertnut
01-11-2009, 07:23 AM
Ok. Still not impressed. Ive been around a few xd's and have put several hundred rounds through them; there just another polymer gun to me. I dont see a reason why to jump on the XD bandwagon and spend 599.00 when you can get a good pistol which will do the same thing(go bang) for cheaper. Ive had my share of high dollar pistols and I still have a few, but i guess ive smarten up a bit when it comes to spending money on firearms.
I didn't spend near that 4 years ago, so I can't relate. I own/owned many handguns over the last 30 years, and I'd rate the XD higher than almost any other, for what it does. My son in law bought a 24/7 at Thanksgiving for himself, and all he wanted to do was fire my XD out at the ranch. If you can't see the differences, then you don't really use them to their potential, or care about those differences.
ScottsMach03
01-11-2009, 11:23 AM
I didn't spend near that 4 years ago, so I can't relate. I own/owned many handguns over the last 30 years, and I'd rate the XD higher than almost any other, for what it does. My son in law bought a 24/7 at Thanksgiving for himself, and all he wanted to do was fire my XD out at the ranch. If you can't see the differences, then you don't really use them to their potential, or care about those differences.
Lol, are you serious? Your son-in-law should have shot the XD before he bought the 24/7 maybe he would have saved some money. Your post proves nothing. You trying to state the XD is a better firearm then the 24/7. Its not up to YOU, its up to the person firing the gun. Im glad your son in law wanted to shoot your gun, I guarantee he had you in his ear telling him how great it is.
I say to the OP go test out the gun yourself and decide. Don’t let the XD and glock nutswingers persuade your decision.
I can stop/kill a human with my 24/7 just as you can with your XD.
85Stanger
01-11-2009, 01:38 PM
glock, easy to use easy to break down, great for first time shooter owner. Just my opinion have a glock 19 never jammed after over 2000 rds or so.. mods are cheap too..
Check around on the internet for LE trade-ins. There are some great deals to be had.
flashstang04
01-12-2009, 02:11 PM
I have a Ruger p89 and the thing is die hard. It eats anything, shoots accurately, and is a breeze to take down. Throw on some Hogue grips, get a 15 rd magazine and it is a real winner.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flashstang04/Firearms/313-51808a.jpg
ScottsMach03
01-12-2009, 03:41 PM
I have a Ruger p89 and the thing is die hard. It eats anything, shoots accurately, and is a breeze to take down. Throw on some Hogue grips, get a 15 rd magazine and it is a real winner.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flashstang04/Firearms/313-51808a.jpg
I opted for the 15rd'er and two 30's:sgrin:
flashstang04
01-12-2009, 03:56 PM
I opted for the 15rd'er and two 30's:sgrin:
Cool, let me know how it feeds..and if you can post a pic do that too. I can't find a pic of a p89 with a 32 rd clip anywhere..
ScottsMach03
01-12-2009, 05:00 PM
Cool, let me know how it feeds..and if you can post a pic do that too. I can't find a pic of a p89 with a 32 rd clip anywhere..
Ill do it this evening.
flashstang04
01-12-2009, 05:25 PM
Ill do it this evening.
:fing02: Ill check back tonight!
ScottsMach03
01-12-2009, 05:53 PM
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g300/scottsmach03/1231804591.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g300/scottsmach03/1231804607.jpg
This gun can chew a coke can. No problems at all with the 30rd'er feeding.
bjtheman1
01-12-2009, 06:01 PM
For a first timer there's nothing wrong with spending what your looking at for a decent gun to get you started. My first was a S&W Sigma .40Cal, yes I know most everyone on here hates them but after doing some research online about it I felt good about the purchase. It's been a great gun, fits me well and shoots nicely. No jams yet out of several hundreds of rounds put through it. I think I paid like $250 for it used.
Also, bought a Walther P22 for fun and so the wife can get use to shooting. Another great gun.
Then I got a Taurus PT111 9MM from Academy on Black Friday for $239 plus tax. This is the one I carry in my car, smaller, feels good when shooting I couldn't be an happier.
It gets addicting, don't feel like to have to go all out on your first. Work your way up, you can always sell your first to put towards a better one.
Most of the guys on here make over $500K Year so it's easier for them, don't worry about it..LOL
Good Luck :fing02:
Vertnut
01-12-2009, 06:07 PM
Lol, are you serious? Your son-in-law should have shot the XD before he bought the 24/7 maybe he would have saved some money. Your post proves nothing. You trying to state the XD is a better firearm then the 24/7. Its not up to YOU, its up to the person firing the gun. Im glad your son in law wanted to shoot your gun, I guarantee he had you in his ear telling him how great it is.
I say to the OP go test out the gun yourself and decide. Don’t let the XD and glock nutswingers persuade your decision.
I can stop/kill a human with my 24/7 just as you can with your XD.
My post DOES prove you don't know shit about guns...LOL! I've been fairly active with handguns for 30 years or so: Indoor Combat, silouette shooting, etc, and I've NEVER had someone say an XD isn't worth the money. Carry on...:fing02:
musbrad2
01-12-2009, 06:17 PM
For a first timer there's nothing wrong with spending what your looking at for a decent gun to get you started. My first was a S&W Sigma .40Cal, yes I know most everyone on here hates them but after doing some research online about it I felt good about the purchase. It's been a great gun, fits me well and shoots nicely. No jams yet out of several hundreds of rounds put through it. I think I paid like $250 for it used.
Also, bought a Walther P22 for fun and so the wife can get use to shooting. Another great gun.
Then I got a Taurus PT111 9MM from Academy on Black Friday for $239 plus tax. This is the one I carry in my car, smaller, feels good when shooting I couldn't be an happier.
It gets addicting, don't feel like to have to go all out on your first. Work your way up, you can always sell your first to put towards a better one.
Most of the guys on here make over $500K Year so it's easier for them, don't worry about it..LOL
Good Luck :fing02:
+1 I bought my wife the sigma 9mm for christmas, we ran about 200 rounds through it, no jams no FTF's. I took it out to wileys gun shop in Wills Point, did pretty good at 75 feet.
Vertnut
01-12-2009, 06:22 PM
For a first timer there's nothing wrong with spending what your looking at for a decent gun to get you started. My first was a S&W Sigma .40Cal, yes I know most everyone on here hates them but after doing some research online about it I felt good about the purchase. It's been a great gun, fits me well and shoots nicely. No jams yet out of several hundreds of rounds put through it. I think I paid like $250 for it used.
Also, bought a Walther P22 for fun and so the wife can get use to shooting. Another great gun.
Then I got a Taurus PT111 9MM from Academy on Black Friday for $239 plus tax. This is the one I carry in my car, smaller, feels good when shooting I couldn't be an happier.
It gets addicting, don't feel like to have to go all out on your first. Work your way up, you can always sell your first to put towards a better one.
Most of the guys on here make over $500K Year so it's easier for them, don't worry about it..LOL
Good Luck :fing02:
I wish I made about 1/2 of that $500K! The only reason I have several guns, is because I've been buying them since 1980. Even after selling some off and swapping around, I still have too damn many. You can only shoot one at a time!:yup:
There's always something better around the corner. My buddy has several different Kimber's, and acts like there's nothing special about any of them. Hell, I can't even go buy one, much less a closet full.
ScottsMach03
01-12-2009, 06:32 PM
My post DOES prove you don't know shit about guns...LOL! I've been fairly active with handguns for 30 years or so: Indoor Combat, silouette shooting, etc, and I've NEVER had someone say an XD isn't worth the money. Carry on...:fing02:
Your reading needs some work. Im not some youngster that is new to guns; ive been around guns my entire life, no need to go into details because im not here to e-battle with you. Ive never said in any of my post that the XD isnt worth the money. My point is that the 24/7 is good gun just as good as the XD. Carry on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Q1nlBRhbM
This is a good evaluation. Search youtube and you will find hundreds like this.
Vertnut
01-12-2009, 07:21 PM
Your reading needs some work. Im not some youngster that is new to guns; ive been around guns my entire life, no need to go into details because im not here to e-battle with you. Ive never said in any of my post that the XD isnt worth the money. My point is that the 24/7 is good gun just as good as the XD. Carry on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Q1nlBRhbM
This is a good evaluation. Search youtube and you will find hundreds like this.
If weight means nothing to you while you carry it, so be it. Your #7 post about "typical XD and Glock nutswingers" came across as a lack of knowledge. I'm glad I'm wrong.
ScottsMach03
01-12-2009, 07:26 PM
If weight means nothing to you while you carry it, so be it. Your #7 post about "typical XD and Glock nutswingers" came across as a lack of knowledge. I'm glad I'm wrong.
I guess you miss my post above where I said I owned a g32( midsize glock .357 sig). No lack of knowledge here. I just keep a open mind about different firearms. I dont base a decision soley on price. Ive spent years handling different handguns as well as reloading my own loads. Sold all my reloading equipment when I got married.
flashstang04
01-12-2009, 07:30 PM
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g300/scottsmach03/1231804591.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g300/scottsmach03/1231804607.jpg
This gun can chew a coke can. No problems at all with the 30rd'er feeding.
Wow!
Well I guess it would suck to conceal it but for home defense I think I am gonna have to get one of those.:approve:
ScottsMach03
01-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Wow!
Well I guess it would suck to conceal it but for home defense I think I am gonna have to get one of those.:approve:
Atleast one would be a advantage.:fing02:
Baron
01-12-2009, 08:02 PM
I have a buddy with a PT-92 ( I think) that he is looking to sell. PM me if you are interested.
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