2009 Transformation Discussion [Archive]

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 12:52 PM

2009 Transformation Discussion

Ok, last year the transformation started on the 15th of February and went for 3 months.

1. Everybody good with that date?

2. I think 3 months is a good time frame. Gives everyone a chance to make good progress and helps some stick with it that long. Haha

3. Sponsors are welcome if you want to donate or know anyone that does.

4. Last year is was decided that supplements should be prizes and not cash. Discuss this one..

5. All supplements bought by sponsors this year will be at cost thanks to Lockoutforums. :)

6. The rules still good?

Rules:
• Must be an active poster on Dfwstangs (Judges discretion)
• Before and After pictures required with newspaper (and close up of date on newspaper so we can verify the date)
• A minimum of 4 before and after pictures of different poses (relaxed front with newspaper), relaxed back or flexed back, front double bicep or most muscular, and legs). Make sure these pictures will allow the judges to accurately see your progress. Also keep before and after pictures under the same conditions (i.e. lightning, cameras, poses, flexing). More poses/pictures are encouraged.
• No use of illegal drugs and/or designer steroids/prohormones/hgh (obviously this will be on the honor system)
• Any of the contestants who does not complete the starting pics, final pics, or any of the other requirements will be disqualified.

7. We will need Fair Judges as well; I think it went well last year. Judges cannot enter contest for prizes.

SuperWho?

01-05-2009, 01:07 PM

Sounds great. Count me in as a judge. I will buy some supps from you to throw in if that's what the contestants decide on. I'm always up for helping people get healthier.

Chuck

01-05-2009, 01:24 PM

Sounds good to me.

I'm in.

HECDOGGIE

01-05-2009, 01:31 PM

:05:I wish I could participate, however, I am honest and I take supps
that would disqualify me..

Good luck to all!

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 01:43 PM

I entered last year, didn't follow through, and I'm still fat. I am working out and eating better... I just started drinking a shit ton of wine. Maybe I'll participate now that I've decided to cut back on my alcohol consumption??? Hmmmm... the thought of having to post new before pictures... good god...

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 01:44 PM

:05:I wish I could participate, however, I am honest and I take supps
that would disqualify me..

Good luck to all!

You can be a judge then! :D

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 01:48 PM

Sounds great. Count me in as a judge. I will buy some supps from you to throw in if that's what the contestants decide on. I'm always up for helping people get healthier.

Last year, i had a few people either send me a check or paypal Lockout. Then i showed what their money bought for the contest and added them to the sponsor list.
Of course you can tell me what you want your money to buy. Same thing...
It will be a little cheaper than what's listed on the online site because it will be at cost.

SuperWho?

01-05-2009, 02:06 PM

Last year, i had a few people either send me a check or paypal Lockout. Then i showed what their money bought for the contest and added them to the sponsor list.
Of course you can tell me what you want your money to buy. Same thing...
It will be a little cheaper than what's listed on the online site because it will be at cost.That works. As soon as it gets going and we know how many are in we will set something up then. I can spring for a bottle of cancer free hyperdrive or something.:D

AL P

01-05-2009, 02:43 PM

Sounds good, hopefully I won't get sick as fuck this year.

The Big Matt

01-05-2009, 02:48 PM

I'm in again. But if it's a no supplement thing, I doubt I'll be able to do that around the 3 month mark.

HECDOGGIE

01-05-2009, 02:48 PM

You can be a judge then! :D

Sounds like a plan..

Count me in!

OH... BTW- You new stack really helped my buddy Scott.
He said the guys at the station have been giving him hell
about getting bigger fast.. Not to mention stronger.

The Raven

01-05-2009, 02:53 PM

I doubt that I'll be able to do cardio or legs by then, but that doesn't mean I can't get my diet in check, and work on upper body. I don't expect to win, but I definitely could use the motivation. Oh how the mighty have fallen, from judge to junkfood.

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 02:54 PM

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 03:19 PM

Greg I'm down again, I'll throw another $50 your way to put towards the end prizes. As far as no sups are we saying that Proteins, creatines, Hyperdrive, Prostanivar, etc... can't be used?

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 04:04 PM

Greg I'm down again, I'll throw another $50 your way to put towards the end prizes. As far as no sups are we saying that Proteins, creatines, Hyperdrive, Prostanivar, etc... can't be used?

I think they mean only illegal supplements.

The Raven

01-05-2009, 04:07 PM

You're eating junk food?! I don't believe it!

I prefer to call it "comfort food.":o I haven't been/wasn't able to lift, and have been eating what I feel like, so I've put on a bit of weight since the wreck. I had been dieting pretty seriously for the last couple years, and my mind needed a rest (that's my story and I'm sticking to it). :p

They say that having a kid wrecks your body, and I think I've found the male equivalent. I was 230lbs and lean just before the wreck, and now I'm 200 with a belly, and will be lucky to bench 225.:Flush:

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 04:09 PM

Wow! Isn't it crazy how long it can take to really get your body where you want it to be but it seems like it takes no time at all for it to be where you DON'T want it to? I need to lose atleast 20 pounds to really feel "good" again - physically and mentally - and now that I've let it get up to 20 it seems so far off. I get to where I tell myself it's just easier to drown my sorrows in a bottle of wine. Yes, I am up to ONE BOTTLE per NIGHT. That is atleast 1K EMPTY calories.

SuperWho?

01-05-2009, 04:12 PM

I prefer to call it "comfort food.":o I haven't been/wasn't able to lift, and have been eating what I feel like, so I've put on a bit of weight since the wreck. I had been dieting pretty seriously for the last couple years, and my mind needed a rest (that's my story and I'm sticking to it). :p

They say that having a kid wrecks your body, and I think I've found the male equivalent. I was 230lbs and lean just before the wreck, and now I'm 200 with a belly, and will be lucky to bench 225.:Flush:

That sucks.

The Raven

01-05-2009, 04:15 PM

The Raven

01-05-2009, 04:16 PM

That sucks.

Yeeeees it does.

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 04:22 PM

Drop the wine, and as long as you don't eat to make up for it, I bet you lose half that 20lbs without hardly trying. Not gonna lie, I turned myself boderline alkie to deal with the pain, and it shows.

I know I need to. I need to get the shit outta my fridge so I'm not even tempted. I went grocery shopping yesterday and started out the week eating right. I will NOT ruin a good day by having wine tonight.

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 04:27 PM

I think they mean only illegal supplements.

Well he said no prohormones and i'm pretty sure the Prostanivar I picked up from him is a PH

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 04:28 PM

I went grocery shopping yesterday and started out the week eating right. I will NOT ruin a good day by having wine tonight.

On a side note, why does all the healthy stuff seem more expensive?

The Raven

01-05-2009, 04:32 PM

I know I need to. I need to get the shit outta my fridge so I'm not even tempted. I went grocery shopping yesterday and started out the week eating right. I will NOT ruin a good day by having wine tonight.

I had a VERY merry Christmas in terms of egg nog and various other spirits, and have come to a point where the hangovers (dehydration and headaches, as well as hanging over the belt) aren't worth a few hours of "buzz." I was completely sober all last week, including New Year's eve, and feel so much better for it. Like dieting, once you get away from it for a period of time, it get's easier to say no. I'm preaching to the choir on this, but only because I speak from experience. If you are serious (and you should be) poor it out when you get home. Living/eating right starts today.

You're an attractive woman April, you could so win this for the simple fact that the judging panel is all male at this point. ;)

The Raven

01-05-2009, 04:35 PM

On a side note, why does all the healthy stuff seem more expensive?

Doesn't it suck? You get to pay me for less. It's simple capitalism though, people who choose to eat healthy will pay a premium because it's worth it to them. In some cases though, there are additional steps in the processing that are required that up the cost pf production.

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 04:46 PM

Doesn't it suck? You get to pay me for less. It's simple capitalism though, people who choose to eat healthy will pay a premium because it's worth it to them. In some cases though, there are additional steps in the processing that are required that up the cost pf production.

Hell yeah it does, i thought i'd save some money eating healthy... hell no. I'm still going to do it because I feel better over all but the grocery store doesn't have to bend me over...

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 04:49 PM

I had a VERY merry Christmas in terms of egg nog and various other spirits, and have come to a point where the hangovers (dehydration and headaches, as well as hanging over the belt) aren't worth a few hours of "buzz." I was completely sober all last week, including New Year's eve, and feel so much better for it. Like dieting, once you get away from it for a period of time, it get's easier to say no. I'm preaching to the choir on this, but only because I speak from experience. If you are serious (and you should be) poor it out when you get home. Living/eating right starts today.

You're an attractive woman April, you could so win this for the simple fact that the judging panel is all male at this point. ;)

Sad thing w/ my wine is I'm so used to it that I don't even get a hangover. SAD. Thank you for the compliment. I need to suck it up and do it. The "before" pics would be torture but I know I could end up with a decent result. I'm going to Turks & Caicos in 30 days so I will already have a jump start b/c I want to knock off some weight before I put on a bikini. Too bad I can't take my before pics NOW! lol

On a side note, why does all the healthy stuff seem more expensive?

I know, right? I spent $70 on two bags of food! lol But I got apples, grapes, bananas, laughing cow swiss cheese, whole grain crackers, turkey meat from the deli, cheerios, fat free milk, etc. I'm making chili for dinner tonight (finally have the weather for it!) and I will have some... but very little and w/out the cheese and fritos.

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 04:52 PM

Well he said no prohormones and i'm pretty sure the Prostanivar I picked up from him is a PH

Yes, Prostanivar is a PH and cant be used for the contest.

Regular supplements are allowed.
Thanks for the $50 offer, when we get the offical post going you can send it over...

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 04:54 PM

Sounds like a plan..

Count me in!

OH... BTW- You new stack really helped my buddy Scott.
He said the guys at the station have been giving him hell
about getting bigger fast.. Not to mention stronger.

Oh, i told him he'd like it. Poeple have been getting crazy results of that stack.
You should be about ready yourself. :D

blownaltered

01-05-2009, 05:03 PM

Yes, Prostanivar is a PH and cant be used for the contest.

Regular supplements are allowed.
Thanks for the $50 offer, when we get the offical post going you can send it over...

I think I might actually do this contest this year, last year I just didn't have the time. I need to drop about 40lbs and just joined a gym again. What supplements are good for leaning up, I like lifting weights but don't care about getting huge right now. Here is the kicker I can't have caffine, my ticker doesn't like it.

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 05:05 PM

OH... BTW- You new stack really helped my buddy Scott.

What'd he take?

The Raven

01-05-2009, 05:08 PM

Sad thing w/ my wine is I'm so used to it that I don't even get a hangover. SAD. Thank you for the compliment. I need to suck it up and do it. The "before" pics would be torture but I know I could end up with a decent result. I'm going to Turks & Caicos in 30 days so I will already have a jump start b/c I want to knock off some weight before I put on a bikini. Too bad I can't take my before pics NOW! lol.

Go ahead and take “before” pics now just to have a better look at over all progress, and it’s also a good motivator to get your butt in gear. Then you can take ‘em again for the contest. I’m not looking forward to seeing my fat ass up on the screen, be glad you’re not trying to build muscle back while you’re dieting.

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 05:11 PM

I think I might actually do this contest this year, last year I just didn't have the time. I need to drop about 40lbs and just joined a gym again. What supplements are good for leaning up, I like lifting weights but don't care about getting huge right now. Here is the kicker I can't have caffine, my ticker doesn't like it.

I'll be he recommends the Tri-lean system http://lockoutforums.net/viewitem.asp?prodid=96&cat=&sessID=f30Meq5DCw1Ah16wgrB4ExPKj

46Tbird

01-05-2009, 05:15 PM

I'd do it, but I'm not waiting til Feb 15th to get started. I haven't done anything for a month due to a shoulder injury, but now that it's healed up, time to get cracking. Good luck to the participants-

redheadintx

01-05-2009, 05:15 PM

Go ahead and take “before” pics now just to have a better look at over all progress, and it’s also a good motivator to get your butt in gear. Then you can take ‘em again for the contest. I’m not looking forward to seeing my fat ass up on the screen, be glad you’re not trying to build muscle back while you’re dieting.

Good idea. I need to. Shit - my "before" pics last year were brutal. I feel like I look even worse now. lol Oh well... it is what it is. I did this to myself.

tex

01-05-2009, 05:34 PM

On a side note, why does all the healthy stuff seem more expensive?

Farmer's markets can drastically reduce the cost, as do the wholesalers like Sam's. Just read labels carefully.

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 06:07 PM

I think I might actually do this contest this year, last year I just didn't have the time. I need to drop about 40lbs and just joined a gym again. What supplements are good for leaning up, I like lifting weights but don't care about getting huge right now. Here is the kicker I can't have caffine, my ticker doesn't like it.

Most all the top sellers have stims in them.
You can try Zero Stim but you wont get as good effects from it. It does have appitite suppress, and cortisol blockers though.

HECDOGGIE

01-05-2009, 06:14 PM

What'd he take?

Gregs new Private labeled stack - ProStanivar I think?

He saw great, and I do mean GREAT results.

blownaltered

01-05-2009, 06:20 PM

Most all the top sellers have stims in them.
You can try Zero Stim but you wont get as good effects from it. It does have appitite suppress, and cortisol blockers though.

Caffine causes my heart to skip beats thats why I can't take things like that usually, also no-xplode doesn't like me much either. I can take proteins without any issues. I don't have the time or will power to eat 5 times a day like I should, what protein would you recommend for cutting weight but yet building some muscle. I ask because most the time at places like GNC the people have no idea about anything.

MotoMan

01-05-2009, 06:25 PM

Caffine causes my heart to skip beats thats why I can't take things like that usually, also no-xplode doesn't like me much either. I can take proteins without any issues. I don't have the time or will power to eat 5 times a day like I should, what protein would you recommend for cutting weight but yet building some muscle. I ask because most the time at places like GNC the people have no idea about anything.

Syntha 6 IMO, Greg got me started on it and it's damn good stuff.

tex

01-05-2009, 07:54 PM

Caffine causes my heart to skip beats thats why I can't take things like that usually, also no-xplode doesn't like me much either. I can take proteins without any issues. I don't have the time or will power to eat 5 times a day like I should, what protein would you recommend for cutting weight but yet building some muscle. I ask because most the time at places like GNC the people have no idea about anything.

If you view the added meals as snacks, it can be easier to get used to. Trail mix, fruits, pre-made sandwiches and things of that nature take virtually no time to eat, and can be consumed on the move.

GRAYHORSE

01-05-2009, 08:57 PM

Caffine causes my heart to skip beats thats why I can't take things like that usually, also no-xplode doesn't like me much either. I can take proteins without any issues. I don't have the time or will power to eat 5 times a day like I should, what protein would you recommend for cutting weight but yet building some muscle. I ask because most the time at places like GNC the people have no idea about anything.

Well, NO Xplode does have caffine in it you know.
Like said Syntha-6 is my personal favorite however there are leaner ones out there. For lean, cheap protein many go with ON 100% Whey.

blownaltered

01-05-2009, 09:39 PM

Well, NO Xplode does have caffine in it you know.
Like said Syntha-6 is my personal favorite however there are leaner ones out there. For lean, cheap protein many go with ON 100% Whey.

Well I didn't know that at the time. Matter of fact I drank cokes my entire life and never had a problem till I took no explode. Now everytime I drink caffine my heart skips beats, not the end of the world just don't drink caffine anymore. As for the other advise I do appreciate it.

idrivea4banger

01-06-2009, 12:22 AM

like last year, i was motivated to loose 20lbs. this year im aiming to drop down to 170 from 200; lower would be better. one thing that got me off track from my diet last year was drinking and slacking on working out. funny thing is as much as i would drink i never got above 207. it got to the point i was drinking every 8-9 days with one day off. it really fucking up my eating habit. junk food and only once a day. ive since quit drinking alcohol and started eating corectly. 6 days sober and feeling better. ill see you guys at the starting line. :fing02:

HECDOGGIE

01-06-2009, 08:44 AM

How many people have signed up?

I know there are a lot of fuckers on here that need to / want to lose weight!

:yup:

mikecobra95

01-06-2009, 10:16 AM

Well I didn't know that at the time. Matter of fact I drank cokes my entire life and never had a problem till I took no explode. Now everytime I drink caffine my heart skips beats, not the end of the world just don't drink caffine anymore. As for the other advise I do appreciate it.

Take care of that issue bro. I was diagnosed with Ventricular Tachycardia 7 years ago. I quit caffeine cold turkey back then and haven't touched a soda or stimulant since. I can't take any of the boosters in the gym.

I do take when lifting protein ( Syntha 6, Cyto Gainer, or Evo Pro), I take CR2 Creatine, BCAA's and Orange Triad Multi Vitamins. None of those affected my heart at all.

I did this last year for 3 months and lost 20 pounds doing nothing more than Cardio 5 days a week, eating better, and cutting back beer intake. Diet and Cardio, it really is that simple. I went from 200lbs to 178lbs. It was a great feeling.

Greg, I'll be a judge if there is room or if ya need another one. I am currently at 190lbs and would not be a good contestant seeing as I want to keep the weight and just lean up a bit and keep lifting:)

redheadintx

01-06-2009, 10:40 AM

How many people have signed up?

I know there are a lot of fuckers on here that need to / want to lose weight!

:yup:

Count me in!

SuperWho?

01-06-2009, 11:16 AM

Take care of that issue bro. I was diagnosed with Ventricular Tachycardia 7 years ago. I quit caffeine cold turkey back then and haven't touched a soda or stimulant since. I can't take any of the boosters in the gym.

I do take when lifting protein ( Syntha 6, Cyto Gainer, or Evo Pro), I take CR2 Creatine, BCAA's and Orange Triad Multi Vitamins. None of those affected my heart at all.

I did this last year for 3 months and lost 20 pounds doing nothing more than Cardio 5 days a week, eating better, and cutting back beer intake. Diet and Cardio, it really is that simple. I went from 200lbs to 178lbs. It was a great feeling.

Greg, I'll be a judge if there is room or if ya need another one. I am currently at 190lbs and would not be a good contestant seeing as I want to keep the weight and just lean up a bit and keep lifting:)

That's what I'm talking about. People keep coming up with B.S. excuses, but in the end it's just their own fault they got that way and they don't want to put in the work to lose it. That's awesome man, and you were limited from a lot of supps too. You just killed a whole lot of people's excuses. :fing02:

avinson

01-06-2009, 11:32 AM

Im not being a judge this year and im actually entering. I hardly drink anymore as it is so i dont think modivation will be a issue.

mikecobra95

01-06-2009, 12:01 PM

that's what i'm talking about. People keep coming up with b.s. Excuses, but in the end it's just their own fault they got that way and they don't want to put in the work to lose it. That's awesome man, and you were limited from a lot of supps too. You just killed a whole lot of people's excuses. :fing02:

These peeps can do it. I was considered a taller skinny dude but I knew I had a ton of fat to lose around my gut. It's embarrassing being only 26 and having a beer belly, a small one, but still......

So come on peeps, here is some evidence of what I did during this last year. Hope they help:)

This was me at 200lbs. Nice Irish Beer gut, no lifting weights at all.

89267

7 weeks later I was down 15lbs and my stomach started looking good again.

89269

Then I hit the weights hard core for a few months and got some upper body size going on:) Here i was almost 200lbs again, but had lost 6% body fat over the first pic. Go muscle!

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D-Money2003

01-06-2009, 12:05 PM

Count me in :fing02: I want to see if i can win two years in a row!

Badass2000gt

01-06-2009, 03:06 PM

I'm in for sure.

Mr. Smith

01-06-2009, 09:24 PM

I may be in this year. My shoulder is just about healed up and I should be ready to go by then!

blownaltered

01-06-2009, 10:00 PM

Take care of that issue bro. I was diagnosed with Ventricular Tachycardia 7 years ago. I quit caffeine cold turkey back then and haven't touched a soda or stimulant since. I can't take any of the boosters in the gym.

I do take when lifting protein ( Syntha 6, Cyto Gainer, or Evo Pro), I take CR2 Creatine, BCAA's and Orange Triad Multi Vitamins. None of those affected my heart at all.

I did this last year for 3 months and lost 20 pounds doing nothing more than Cardio 5 days a week, eating better, and cutting back beer intake. Diet and Cardio, it really is that simple. I went from 200lbs to 178lbs. It was a great feeling.

Greg, I'll be a judge if there is room or if ya need another one. I am currently at 190lbs and would not be a good contestant seeing as I want to keep the weight and just lean up a bit and keep lifting:)
Lucky for me my wife worked for a heart doctor at the time and they did about 6k worth of tests for free, that was sweet. They just told me not to drink caffine and I should be ok, it causes palpetations (the spelling police are going to fuck me on that one ) and they are pretty bad. I've damn near passed out from my heart skipping around and not catching a steady beat. Oh well what you going to do, I still worked out 5 days a week after that for another year then my son was born and well now I'm 235 again. Thanks for the info on the supplements I will give them a shot.

Cammin4V

01-06-2009, 10:25 PM

if anyone is working out at Gold's Gym, they have a contest that is very similar going on....would be very beneficial to enter both contests to win double the prizes if you are serious about it.

Also, if anyone needs any help, i manage Gold's in Garland and would be willing to help out with workouts/nutritional counseling of any kind.

11sec4eyes

01-06-2009, 10:49 PM

I would definately like to join this year as well, I am a fatty again and need to lose about 80 lbs.

ThreeFingerPete

01-07-2009, 12:49 AM

I'm interested. I could lean up a bit, maybe try lifting a weight or two.

mikecobra95

01-07-2009, 08:54 AM

Lucky for me my wife worked for a heart doctor at the time and they did about 6k worth of tests for free, that was sweet. They just told me not to drink caffine and I should be ok, it causes palpetations (the spelling police are going to fuck me on that one ) and they are pretty bad. I've damn near passed out from my heart skipping around and not catching a steady beat. Oh well what you going to do, I still worked out 5 days a week after that for another year then my son was born and well now I'm 235 again. Thanks for the info on the supplements I will give them a shot.

Good deal bro. When I had an episode of my Tachycardia caught on a heart monitor my heart doctor said my heart was 10 seconds away from stopping. Being so young that was hard new to take, knowing that any second of my life could be my last cause of this heart problem. It haunts my thoughts a lot. :( Make sure you take care of it and if you feel it again, go get tested. Maybe they can kill the bad nerve causing your problem:)

But on the supplements, just email Greg over at Lockout. (Grayhorse on here). He is seriously the most helpful guy around. He told me what I could take and what I couldn't take. He ALWAYS answered my questions, even when I had a ton of them.

347Mike

01-07-2009, 11:40 AM

I tried getting back in the gym a week or so ago and went for a week. Ive been entirely to busy to squeeze in gym time.

Ive been working 12-14 hour days and its killing me. I came in at 5 this morning and will be here til 8.

Al Capown

01-07-2009, 12:41 PM

*sigh* I got a GF and I went back to where I started Im a fuqin dumb ass. Well almost to where I started. Im game for another Transformation

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 12:54 PM

Come on Greg, let's get this thing started, I'm ready to go.

** on a side note, I'm bummed that I can't start on the Pro-Stanivar until after this is all over.

redheadintx

01-07-2009, 01:26 PM

What's keeping us from starting this on 1/14 versus 2/14???

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 01:29 PM

What's keeping us from starting this on 1/14 versus 2/14???

Well I'm thinking he's shooting for the official date being 2/14 so there's time for everyone to find out about it, time to get sponsors and such. I've already started back to the gym, I'll just step up the game once I know what's at stake:fing02:

redheadintx

01-07-2009, 01:31 PM

Well I'm thinking he's shooting for the official date being 2/14 so there's time for everyone to find out about it, time to get sponsors and such. I've already started back to the gym, I'll just step up the game once I know what's at stake:fing02:

That makes sense. :) I guess I'm just anxious for it to be "official". I'm on day 3 of NO WINE and I feel good. It's hard... but I think it will get easier.

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 01:42 PM

That makes sense. :) I guess I'm just anxious for it to be "official". I'm on day 3 of NO WINE and I feel good. It's hard... but I think it will get easier.

I cut back on my drinking to going drinking just once a week and I've set the limit to 4 beers when I go out. That right there has helped me tremendously, I generally just feel better every day and I've found that I'm not nearly as tired during the days.

GRAYHORSE

01-07-2009, 01:58 PM

Come on Greg, let's get this thing started, I'm ready to go.

** on a side note, I'm bummed that I can't start on the Pro-Stanivar until after this is all over.

Take it now and you'll be done before it starts. haha :D

GRAYHORSE

01-07-2009, 02:00 PM

Well I'm thinking he's shooting for the official date being 2/14 so there's time for everyone to find out about it, time to get sponsors and such. I've already started back to the gym, I'll just step up the game once I know what's at stake:fing02:

Yes, everyone should be working out now but the official contest with starting pics will start next month.

This thread is for ideas to make the contest better and to let ppl know it's coming... :)

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 02:09 PM

Take it now and you'll be done before it starts. haha :D

Is it only a 30day cycle? I thought it was 8 weeks :scratchchin:

GRAYHORSE

01-07-2009, 02:12 PM

Is it only a 30day cycle? I thought it was 8 weeks :scratchchin:

No 4 weeks, and 4 weeks of PCT.
PCT's are not anabolic, you'll only be using it during your first week of the transformation. :cool2:

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 02:24 PM

No 4 weeks, and 4 weeks of PCT.
PCT's are not anabolic, you'll only be using it during your first week of the transformation. :cool2:

Sweet, guess I'll start with them on monday.

The Raven

01-07-2009, 03:06 PM

Sweet, guess I'll start with them on monday.

Starting now may very well undermine any possibility of winning the contest though. You'll get your gains in the next month, and then be trying to maintain them with PCT as the contest starts. I have yet to hear of anyone making notable gains while on PCT, so you won't be able to grow for at least the first month of the contest. If you decide to start dieting at that point, you'll seriously jeopardize keeping your gains, as your body will need calories to maintain bodyweight as your hormones stabilize.

I'm not telling you not to start, but if you seriously think that oyu have the motivation to win, I'd wait...

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 03:14 PM

Starting now may very well undermine any possibility of winning the contest though. You'll get your gains in the next month, and then be trying to maintain them with PCT as the contest starts. I have yet to hear of anyone making notable gains while on PCT, so you won't be able to grow for at least the first month of the contest. If you decide to start dieting at that point, you'll seriously jeopardize keeping your gains, as your body will need calories to maintain bodyweight as your hormones stabilize.

I'm not telling you not to start, but if you seriously think that oyu have the motivation to win, I'd wait...

You're definitely the one with the bulking experience here so I was thinking that if I start now and bulk for a month, maybe put on 5lbs-10lbs and hitting the gym hard. Then i'd be ready to maintain and cut the extra weight (fatty stuff) when the contest comes around. Is that easier said then done?

The Raven

01-07-2009, 03:28 PM

Is that easier said then done?

Yes. Maintaining gains is hard enough when you can eat the proper amount of calories and train heavy during PCT, and the caloric deficit and cardio needed to burn fat will most certainly effect your ability to keep the strength and size. IMO you'll be throwing your money away if you try to trim up during PCT.

Given that the rules prevent you from cycling during the contest, I would recommend spending the next month getting into a regular routine, tighten up your eating habits, and go for as much fat loss as you can for the contest. Train heavy as not to sacrifice to much lean mass, and then post contest your body will be primed to put weight back on. If you keep your diet clean (with more calories to supoprt muscle hypertrophy), take your cycle and you'll maximize growth.

Opinions are like assholes though, and I'm sure others may have a different plan of attack to suggest.

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 03:41 PM

Yes. Maintaining gains is hard enough when you can eat the proper amount of calories and train heavy during PCT, and the caloric deficit and cardio needed to burn fat will most certainly effect your ability to keep the strength and size. IMO you'll be throwing your money away if you try to trim up during PCT.

Given that the rules prevent you from cycling during the contest, I would recommend spending the next month getting into a regular routine, tighten up your eating habits, and go for as much fat loss as you can for the contest. Train heavy as not to sacrifice to much lean mass, and then post contest your body will be primed to put weight back on. If you keep your diet clean (with more calories to supoprt muscle hypertrophy), take your cycle and you'll maximize growth.

Opinions are like assholes though, and I'm sure others may have a different plan of attack to suggest.

Seems like it all makes sense, looks like it's time to rethink the transformation process.

GRAYHORSE

01-07-2009, 04:51 PM

Seems like it all makes sense, looks like it's time to rethink the transformation process.

I was going to say the same, you're only plan by using a PH now before the contest would be to bulk up with as most weight as possible and then cut during the 3 months. Most of your gains will be lost doing this during a diet afterwards, however hopefully your weight loss will show off some muscle gained and kept while you cont. to workout.
For best results of the cycle, yes you should wait and have a diet before and after to support it.

Think it over... :indifferent:

MotoMan

01-07-2009, 05:03 PM

I was going to say the same, you're only plan by using a PH now before the contest would be to bulk up with as most weight as possible and then cut during the 3 months. Most of your gains will be lost doing this during a diet afterwards, however hopefully your weight loss will show off some muscle gained and kept while you cont. to workout.
For best results of the cycle, yes you should wait and have a diet before and after to support it.

Think it over... :indifferent:

Yeah I really don't want lose my gain.

01svtboy

01-08-2009, 12:09 PM

I may be in on this one:blindfold:

SALEEN449

01-08-2009, 12:43 PM

How about two divisions....one natural and one with "magic pill" assistance?? That may also settle the debate as to how effective they are.

GRAYHORSE

01-08-2009, 01:11 PM

How about two divisions....one natural and one with "magic pill" assistance?? That may also settle the debate as to how effective they are.

haha, there's a debate?

TxFordGirl

01-08-2009, 02:58 PM

redheadintx

01-08-2009, 03:35 PM

One glass of red wine is good for you.:fing02:

Problem is I never want just one. :trink26:

Um... on a side note... while I was looking for a drinking smiley I found the CLIT smiley! WTF?!

:clit:

MotoMan

01-08-2009, 04:02 PM

Ok so i just weighed in... 6ft currently 195lbs. I'm thinking a good 20lbs in 3 months should be a good start for cutting weight. Then bulking to about 185lb should put me at a decent size.

xDetroitMusclex

01-08-2009, 06:31 PM

I'm down, finally in a stable part of my life without anything in my way besides work. My arms are both healed up from breaking them both a couple years ago snowboarding, which really put me in a shitty position.

GRAYHORSE

01-09-2009, 08:26 AM

dville_gt

01-09-2009, 10:15 AM

i will probably enter, im looking to add 5-10 clean lbs during the comp.

90lxstangman

01-09-2009, 11:58 AM

Is the competiton on this site or lockout.

GRAYHORSE

01-09-2009, 12:01 PM

Is the competiton on this site or lockout.

We'll just do it on the site again.
Workout Logs can be kept on Lockout so this forum isnt filled with personal workout threads.

90lxstangman

01-09-2009, 12:06 PM

Cool i missed the entry in last years due too all the crap i was dealing with last year about this time.

milk

01-12-2009, 01:12 AM

fuck i would do this one but would be too embarrased to post before piks.

MILK

HECDOGGIE

01-12-2009, 10:41 AM

fuck i would do this one but would be too embarrased to post before piks.

MILK

Dont be a vagina.. more reason to stay in the gym and show improvements.

If you know you are too lazy up front, just be honest and say "I dont stick to anything or I cant finish what I start"

Damn Im being such an asshole today......

milk

01-12-2009, 10:59 AM

Dont be a vagina.. more reason to stay in the gym and show improvements.

If you know you are too lazy up front, just be honest and say "I dont stick to anything or I cant finish what I start"

Damn Im being such an asshole today......

thanks for the motivation FUCKER.

MILK

HECDOGGIE

01-12-2009, 11:22 AM

thanks for the motivation FUCKER.

MILK

Yeah... I felt like a dick after I wrote it.. Now.. sign up and prove my ass wrong.. I can help you man... Lets do this......:fing02:

milk

01-12-2009, 11:24 AM

Yeah... I felt like a dick after I wrote it.. Now.. sign up and prove my ass wrong.. I can help you man... Lets do this......:fing02:

OKay. Lets rock. But i cant wait till the 15 im starting now. Today starts the new day of the old MILK. Does that make sence? LOL

M ILK

redheadintx

01-12-2009, 01:30 PM

If you know you are too lazy up front, just be honest and say "I dont stick to anything or I cant finish what I start"

This is my problem. Hopefully I can prove myself wrong this year. We'll see!

HECDOGGIE

01-12-2009, 01:38 PM

This is my problem. Hopefully I can prove myself wrong this year. We'll see!

Well, you have really got to want something... You are married, so you have nothing to look forward to ... I am not married.. me being fit and not fat may , just may help me find a yung tender... :yup:

MotoMan

01-12-2009, 01:42 PM

Well, you have really got to want something... You are married, so you have nothing to look forward to ... I am not married.. me being fit and not fat may , just may help me find a yung tender... :yup:

Yeah instead of looking like an 18yo Hector now looks like a jacked 18yo.

I keed I keed

redheadintx

01-12-2009, 02:01 PM

Well, you have really got to want something... You are married, so you have nothing to look forward to ... I am not married.. me being fit and not fat may , just may help me find a yung tender... :yup:

Nothing to look forward to? I look forward to being H-O-T again regardless of whether or not I'm married. I want to look good for myself and for my husband... but mostly for myself.

milk

01-12-2009, 02:29 PM

Nothing to look forward to? I look forward to being H-O-T again regardless of whether or not I'm married. I want to look good for myself and for my husband... but mostly for myself.

piks or it didnt happen.

MILK

AL P

01-12-2009, 02:58 PM

I went and bought me a little protein and some other junk yesterday. Now I just need to get used to getting up at about 4:30am and I will be good to go.

Stangin4Lyfe

01-12-2009, 03:15 PM

How about two divisions....one natural and one with "magic pill" assistance?? That may also settle the debate as to how effective they are.

Too many dishonest folks to do all that...

Personally, I pride myself in being 100% natural.
It just shows how much harder I work than you drug users.
;)

SuperWho?

01-12-2009, 04:56 PM

Too many dishonest folks to do all that...

Personally, I pride myself in being 100% natural.
It just shows how much harder I work than you drug users.
;)

How much are you paying for monster milk? I came cross it for 34.99 at academy today.

GRAYHORSE

01-12-2009, 08:50 PM

How much are you paying for monster milk? I came cross it for 34.99 at academy today.

He said $33 after tax. I dont even know what i can get it for. I remember thinking it was over priced. I need to check it out.

Cammin4V

01-12-2009, 09:45 PM

SuperWho?

01-13-2009, 07:30 AM

If you are just looking for a meal replacement or snack type option, thats not a bad choice. There are better options for the same thing though(mainly cheaper). If you are planning on using that for a post workout, you may want to reconsider. With that much fat, and fat inhibiting protein synthesis, you really arent intaking near the 50 grams you are ingesting.

Also, if you are looking for a post workout, there are much easier ways to get exactly what you need, to drop your cortisol levels down and get as much protein to the muscles as possible within that 30 minute post workout time.

I don't recall asking anything other than what stangin4lyfe was paying for it. If you felt the need to post that just to show what you know about protein synthesis and what types of protein are best for pre/intra/post workout, then good job, but you aren't telling me or him anything we don't already know.

SuperWho?

01-13-2009, 07:33 AM

He said $33 after tax. I dont even know what i can get it for. I remember thinking it was over priced. I need to check it out.

Let me know what you find. It does taste damn good, but 34.99 is still pricey.

Stangin4Lyfe

01-13-2009, 08:27 AM

If you are just looking for a meal replacement or snack type option, thats not a bad choice. There are better options for the same thing though(mainly cheaper). If you are planning on using that for a post workout, you may want to reconsider. With that much fat, and fat inhibiting protein synthesis, you really arent intaking near the 50 grams you are ingesting.

Also, if you are looking for a post workout, there are much easier ways to get exactly what you need, to drop your cortisol levels down and get as much protein to the muscles as possible within that 30 minute post workout time.

Strange...I take it right before bed, a lot right after I train, and it seems to be working fine for me.
I just LOVE the taste!
I consume on average 200-300 grams a day, so I'm sure my body gets plenty overall anyways.

I never knew one would consider 3grams of saturated fat a lot, lol.
It's not the purest form of protein by far, but it still gets the job done!

http://www.planetarynutrition.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/monster_supp.jpg

Stangin4Lyfe

01-13-2009, 08:28 AM

Let me know what you find. It does taste damn good, but 34.99 is still pricey.

Just talk to the chics up at the gym...you know, the ones that work there.
They get 15% off, so I take full advantage of that!!! LOL
24hr is offering 40% off right now as well.
I got three jugs the other night for a < a bill.

SuperWho?

01-13-2009, 09:04 AM

Just talk to the chics up at the gym...you know, the ones that work there.
They get 15% off, so I take full advantage of that!!! LOL
24hr is offering 40% off right now as well.
I got three jugs the other night for a < a bill.

Might have to pick some up then. It's hard to find a good protein that tastes that damn good.

DaisyDoesDallas

01-13-2009, 09:51 AM

Count me in!

Cammin4V

01-13-2009, 09:16 PM

I don't recall asking anything other than what stangin4lyfe was paying for it. If you felt the need to post that just to show what you know about protein synthesis and what types of protein are best for pre/intra/post workout, then good job, but you aren't telling me or him anything we don't already know.
LMFAO! Billy badass! I was just pointing out that there are better options out there for a meal replacement, as well as a post workout drink. Not everyone here is all knowing as you, and have the ability to know everything about working out.
Strange...I take it right before bed, a lot right after I train, and it seems to be working fine for me.
I just LOVE the taste!
I consume on average 200-300 grams a day, so I'm sure my body gets plenty overall anyways.

I never knew one would consider 3grams of saturated fat a lot, lol.
It's not the purest form of protein by far, but it still gets the job done!

http://www.planetarynutrition.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/monster_supp.jpg

again...not saying you arent going to absorb any protein, just saying there are better options out there. and 3 grams of sat fat isnt a lot, but 9 grams/serving is in my opinion.

SuperWho?

01-13-2009, 09:37 PM

LMFAO! Billy badass! I was just pointing out that there are better options out there for a meal replacement, as well as a post workout drink. Not everyone here is all knowing as you, and have the ability to know everything about working out.

You're the typical know it all "bad ass" that felt the need to school us on our protein choices when all we were talking about was how much we pay for it. I don't recall a single one of our posts asking what a good protein choice would be, yet in you came all Protein God like. If anyone is coming off like a know it all, it's you. :fing02:

Stangin4Lyfe

01-14-2009, 07:26 AM

again...not saying you arent going to absorb any protein, just saying there are better options out there. and 3 grams of sat fat isnt a lot, but 9 grams/serving is in my opinion.

Better options that might not taste as well.
Like I said, I'm happy with the protein and it hasn't put an ounce of fat on me since starting to take it.
I want to try out some of the Nectar protein sometime though.
9 grams of natural fat is nothing to a person that is active and of my size.

HECDOGGIE

01-14-2009, 07:31 AM

GRAYHORSE

01-14-2009, 07:46 AM

I need some new protein, the stuff I am taking now taste like shit and it makes me feel a little sick after I take it...

Syntha 6 was good and it tasted good - Just pricey
The protein Max Muscle carries is good, the taste gets old quick and its pricey

I like the RTD Pure Protein, however, It gets expensive... ugh. double edge swords here ...

Syntha 6 is $26 for 30 servings. Far from pricey, one of the cheapest on the market really.
If you wanna do Muscle Milk i can do $23.
I got you covered homes.

blownaltered

01-14-2009, 09:09 AM

How much protein a day should a person take in. I am 6' tall and weigh 229lbs, trying to slim down but I like to lift weights.

GRAYHORSE

01-14-2009, 02:18 PM

How much protein a day should a person take in. I am 6' tall and weigh 229lbs, trying to slim down but I like to lift weights.

IMO i think you'd be fine with 200g's. Others will tell you 300+

I get around 200g's a day.

AL P

01-14-2009, 02:21 PM

IMO i think you'd be fine with 200g's. Others will tell you 300+

I get around 200g's a day.

What is your split on protein from food versus protein from supplements?

GRAYHORSE

01-14-2009, 04:31 PM

What is your split on protein from food versus protein from supplements?

I take one protein shake after workout at night. That's all i get from supps. I do take some BCAA pills too.

88hatch5_0

01-14-2009, 05:04 PM

When is the earliest that you will accept pics?

blownaltered

01-14-2009, 06:51 PM

IMO i think you'd be fine with 200g's. Others will tell you 300+

I get around 200g's a day.

I lift but I am definitly not a body builder, I weigh 229 because of my beer belly. I lift weights 4 days a week and do atleast half an hour of cardio 5 days a week. I really need to cut weight, should I still take in that much when losing weight?

GRAYHORSE

01-14-2009, 07:32 PM

I lift but I am definitly not a body builder, I weigh 229 because of my beer belly. I lift weights 4 days a week and do atleast half an hour of cardio 5 days a week. I really need to cut weight, should I still take in that much when losing weight?

Yes, protein dosent make you gain weight.

GRAYHORSE

01-14-2009, 07:34 PM

When is the earliest that you will accept pics?

The week of Feb 15th. There will be a new thread soon for applicants..

Da Prez

01-14-2009, 11:40 PM

im down, even tho ive started already and lost 14lbs, i might as well do this too...

Badass2000gt

01-14-2009, 11:51 PM

im down, even tho ive started already and lost 14lbs, i might as well do this too...
Hey Fred are you member at a gym? If so which one.

Da Prez

01-15-2009, 02:29 AM

Hey Fred are you member at a gym? If so which one.

ive been a member at ballys in irving for a few years now, trying to get something closer to carrollton now...

redheadintx

01-15-2009, 07:23 AM

I'm anxious to get started!!! I've been doing well with staying away from wine during the week and my diet is still pretty clean... I haven't been exercising much but even with those small changes I'm feeling good and I'm down a few pounds! :fing02:

HECDOGGIE

01-15-2009, 08:48 AM

Is there a running list of participants?

blownaltered

01-15-2009, 08:52 AM

Yes, protein dosent make you gain weight.

OK good I wasn't sure if I was messing with my weight loss. Really trying to cut weight and gain some size. I don't want to get huge right now, I will go for that when I get down around 200.

GRAYHORSE

01-15-2009, 10:55 AM

Is there a running list of participants?

The thread for participants to enter will be put up in a week or so. Any that dont post starting pics by Feb 15th will be dropped.

Badass2000gt

01-15-2009, 02:29 PM

ive been a member at ballys in irving for a few years now, trying to get something closer to carrollton now...

You know there is a ballys at Old Denton and George bush.

MotoMan

01-15-2009, 03:44 PM

ive been a member at ballys in irving for a few years now, trying to get something closer to carrollton now...

Depending on where you're located you've got a new La Fitness off Forest between Josey & Webb Chapel.

03trubluGT

01-15-2009, 07:29 PM

ThreeFingerPete

01-15-2009, 09:02 PM

OK good I wasn't sure if I was messing with my weight loss. Really trying to cut weight and gain some size. I don't want to get huge right now, I will go for that when I get down around 200.

LOL. you asshole. you don't just "oops, i got huge".

Cammin4V

01-15-2009, 09:36 PM

SuperWho?

01-16-2009, 03:20 AM

How much are you paying for monster milk? I came cross it for 34.99 at academy today.

If you are just looking for a meal replacement or snack type option, thats not a bad choice. There are better options for the same thing though(mainly cheaper). If you are planning on using that for a post workout, you may want to reconsider. With that much fat, and fat inhibiting protein synthesis, you really arent intaking near the 50 grams you are ingesting.

Also, if you are looking for a post workout, there are much easier ways to get exactly what you need, to drop your cortisol levels down and get as much protein to the muscles as possible within that 30 minute post workout time.

Now, tell me. You see my original post, and the only question asked about monster milk. Now look what you responded with. If you had said, Hey, I know where to get it for 30 bucks, this wouldn't be an issue, but you didn't, you decided to chime in and let us lowly uneducated folk know how we could be making a better choice in protein. Then, when I call you on it, you say I'm the know it all. If you can't figure that out, I'm sorry. There was a whole monster milk thread a few weeks back, that would have been the time to speak up.

tex

01-16-2009, 07:36 AM

Someone is a little testy this week...

The Raven

01-16-2009, 09:11 AM

200 seriously? You might not be in tip top shape, but you looked pretty thick at Craig and Leah's. I had you pegged for a gym rat. What kind of accident did you have?

I had a "minor" dirtbike accident, that turned into a major break. Brole both the tibia and fibula, coupled with a pretty bad case of compartment syndrome. Pics are on page 2 if you like the gory sruff.

http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=371120&highlight=colorado&page=2

I haven't shriveled away to nothing, but I'm a far cry from the 230 I was before the wreck. At least I've got muscle memory on my side.

Stangin4Lyfe

01-16-2009, 10:27 AM

D-bike owns jew! :owned2:

redheadintx

01-16-2009, 10:33 AM

I fell off the wagon a bit and opened up a box of Caramel deLites (aka Samoas) damn it! Having all these cookies in my house makes it HARD! Still no wine though so that's good. lol

SuperWho?

01-16-2009, 03:11 PM

Pretty good deal on whey cheap today, if you don't know what it is, it's the woot of supps.

http://wheycheap.com/

03trubluGT

01-16-2009, 04:37 PM

I had a "minor" dirtbike accident, that turned into a major break. Brole both the tibia and fibula, coupled with a pretty bad case of compartment syndrome. Pics are on page 2 if you like the gory sruff.

http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=371120&highlight=colorado&page=2

I haven't shriveled away to nothing, but I'm a far cry from the 230 I was before the wreck. At least I've got muscle memory on my side.

I was 215 and slid into 3rd base at a full sprint thinking it was a break-away base.

It wasn't

I've broke my fibula like a toothpick, and fractured my tibia in 2 places. I feel for ya bro, that shit sucks. It took me about 10 months to get back to where I was in the gym leg wise.

I still have a rod and 10 screws in my right ankle..

Good luck,

Matt

The Raven

01-16-2009, 04:59 PM

I still have a rod and 10 screws in my right ankle..

Mine's bigger than yours. :p;)

http://www.dfwstangs.net/coppermine/albums/userpics/11548/normal_rodfibula_break%7E0.jpg

03trubluGT

01-16-2009, 05:40 PM

Mine's bigger than yours. :p;)

http://www.dfwstangs.net/coppermine/albums/userpics/11548/normal_rodfibula_break%7E0.jpg

I bow.....

Seriously, photoshop the upper right hand corner out of that pic. Wayyyy too much info...

Cammin4V

01-16-2009, 07:03 PM

Someone is a little testy this week...

Its probably the "prohormones"...haha:umbrella:

Beenfetchedlately

01-17-2009, 09:22 AM

How much are you paying for monster milk? I came cross it for 34.99 at academy today.
Its on sale for 25.49 at Vitaminne Shoppe this month if anyone cares.

SuperWho?

01-17-2009, 10:58 AM

Its on sale for 25.49 at Vitaminne Shoppe this month if anyone cares.

That's for monster milk, not muscle milk? That's a deal.

Stangin4Lyfe

01-17-2009, 01:40 PM

Its on sale for 25.49 at Vitaminne Shoppe this month if anyone cares.

Monster Milk is?
You sure about that Mike?

For anyone that cares...
24hr has Muscle Milk and Muscle Milk Light on sale for $19.99 again.

HECDOGGIE

01-17-2009, 06:37 PM

Pretty good deal on whey cheap today, if you don't know what it is, it's the woot of supps.

http://wheycheap.com/

PIITB

Thats fucking funny

SuperWho?

01-17-2009, 07:07 PM

PIITB

Thats fucking funny

yeah, i giggle every time i see it

Beenfetchedlately

01-17-2009, 07:11 PM

Monster Milk is?
You sure about that Mike?

For anyone that cares...
24hr has Muscle Milk and Muscle Milk Light on sale for $19.99 again.

Yes sir I was just there.

FWIW, you can take the price at 24Hr and put it in the link section of Supplementwarehouse, and price bust it. It will be even cheaper by another 5%...

Order a few jugs of it and its still a damn good price with a base shipping and handling charge.

Beenfetchedlately

01-17-2009, 07:12 PM

That's for monster milk, not muscle milk? That's a deal.
You may be right..I didnt pay close attn..lemme go see what it says on the site..lol

Beenfetchedlately

01-17-2009, 07:13 PM

No, its the muscle milk. Its actually 23.90! The light is 25.49

SuperWho?

01-17-2009, 07:40 PM

No, its the muscle milk. Its actually 23.90! The light is 25.49

Damn, I was afraid of that. Oh well.

Stangin4Lyfe

01-18-2009, 11:05 AM

No, its the muscle milk. Its actually 23.90! The light is 25.49

That sounds more like it.
Like I said...24hr has it for $19.99 now...

Biggstang

01-18-2009, 05:04 PM

so when will this start? I am up for it I need some motivation!

GRAYHORSE

01-18-2009, 05:10 PM

so when will this start? I am up for it I need some motivation!

Feb 15th

turbodriven

01-20-2009, 11:22 AM

I'm up for this. Do I need to go ahead and upload my before pictures?

Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~

01-21-2009, 09:36 PM

All i can say is now that i have been going to the gym for the past couple months i feel alot better. I used to sit on my ass everyday eat crappy fast food and just didnt really care about what i was doing to myself. I started a routine a few months ago and i am seeing results. Since i have started I totally quit smoking! That right there is an accomplishment in itself. I drive by fast food places and laugh at the thought of eating an ultimate cheeseburger and a large coke. I still cheat but i try no to eat junk. Seeing results and watching yourself transform and meet goals makes you feel good. The gym is a hell of a stress reliever and once you get used to it you actually enjoy going. Getting past the first few weeks is the hard part. One thing i have learned is to go in there and just do what you do. Your in there for yourself so there is no reason to worry about what anyone else is doing. Dont give up if you get off track its no big deal get back in there and start again dont quit!