Sean Avery suspended for "Sloppy Seconds"

[Who Needs 8]

http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip117996#clip117996

http://www.krld.com/Dallas-Stars--Sean-Avery-Suspended-For-Comments--V/3420393

Wow, that was kind of childish.

If you don't know what he's talking about: He's referencing Calgary player Dion Phaneuf who is dating Avery's ex-girlfriend Elisha Cuthbert.

I don't care what sloppy division she is . . . she's effing hot!!!

He's suspended indefinatly. :eek:

The Stars players are pissed. I heard Modano on a sound clip talk about how hard they've worked to give the Stars the reputation for being a classy orgainization, and this guy has tarnished it.

Now I'm on the side saying signing this A-Hole was a bad idea.

[Big Studly]

the Stars knew what they were getting when they signed him. I like how Tom Hicks is trying to distance.....that fucker probably couldn't point out Sean Avery in the locker room.

I think the comment was funny. Borderline inappropriate. I am sure there are things said on the ice that are 10 times worse (Hannerhan, Susanne sucks pussy). I really don't think the suspension is appropriate for what he said, but I guess they are trying to prove a point before he gets worse...he is only 28 and if allowed to run sort of rampant, in a few years he could be pretty damn hard to digest.

[Who Needs 8]

Tom Hicks.....that fucker probably couldn't point out Sean Avery in the locker room.



Hahahaha . . . there is NO Doubt!!!

[gip99drop]

Funny shit...

[David]

The guy cracks me up.

[bcoop]

Personally, I think it's hilarious. I don't see anything wrong with what he said, and it DEFINITELY was not deserving of an indefinite suspension. The people that run the league are a bunch of fucking pussies. I wouldn't last 24 hours in the NHL if shit like that was a suspendable offense. I've said worse on, and off the field in sports I've played. I've said worse, to my bosses. I've said worse to customers. And I've said worse to competitors. Seriously? Sloppy seconds? That's offensive? Put your big girl undies on, and get the fuck over it. Really...

[JP135]

I hope this doesn't ruin the Stars' season...








oh wait.

[BOOSTED32V]

"I like to push it to the edge, no doubt about it. That's how I play. That's how I live. That's what I'm about." -SA

[lolo89cpe]

what a role model... glad they suspended him

[regaltip]

I thought this was the NHL and not the WNBA?

[bcoop]

what a role model... glad they suspended him


Do you need your tampon changed? The guy didn't even use foul language.... Come on now...

[Avery'sDad]

I'll take sloppy 3rds.... :D

[regaltip]

what a role model... glad they suspended him

How is that a bad role model? I guess them fighting in the NHL is better for the kids than him making some rude remark that kids don't understand?

[Vertnut]

Apparently, he has a pretty good history of saying offensive things... :cool: It's HOCKEY! Phaneuf should just bust his ass if he doesn't like it. The NHL should have no role in this at all.

[lolo89cpe]

Do you need your tampon changed? The guy didn't even use foul language.... Come on now...


just changed it.... I wouldnt want my lil girls to say that foul crap at church... jmo... Have some class hes a pro ath that gets payed to play a kids game... Dont know why hes so mad... To top it off they are playing horrible this year...

[lolo89cpe]

How is that a bad role model? I guess them fighting in the NHL is better for the kids than him making some rude remark that kids don't understand?


I dont care much for hockey... I just think he should have some class and watch what he says cause little ears are still up when the news comes on. IMO

[regaltip]

I agree, but c'mon your going to tell me that b/c he said something stupid it's going to effect the game?

[mpulsive81]

Like he's the first guy in sports to be smartass. Completely unrelated to his job and now he's suspended. NHL trying to play Big Brother now? Gimme a friggin break :rolleyes:

[LannyN9NE]

The problem with it is his past. He doesn't pick his spots and say something, it happens over and over. With that being said, he and others have said much worse. A player has to be smarter than to say something like that on camera. He wasn't just saying that to Phaneuf but a couple other guys as well as Avery has made his rounds with the Hollywood scene.

[bcoop]

The problem with it is his past. He doesn't pick his spots and say something, it happens over and over. With that being said, he and others have said much worse. A player has to be smarter than to say something like that on camera. He wasn't just saying that to Phaneuf but a couple other guys as well as Avery has made his rounds with the Hollywood scene.



I get that he's a shit talker, instigator, etc. But really, who gives a shit? I mean, since when is it the NHL's job to moderate what people say? This isn't Nazi Germany.


Professional sports associations have much bigger problems to worry about, than someone calling someone out on taking his sloppy seconds. Shit, look at football!


Oh, wait. The NHL holds their players to a higher standard. :rolleyes: Give me a friggin break.

[LannyN9NE]

I get that he's a shit talker, instigator, etc. But really, who gives a shit? I mean, since when is it the NHL's job to moderate what people say? This isn't Nazi Germany.


Professional sports associations have much bigger problems to worry about, than someone calling someone out on taking his sloppy seconds. Shit, look at football!


Oh, wait. The NHL holds their players to a higher standard. :rolleyes: Give me a friggin break.


When you are a league that is not in the top three you have to moderate what the outside public sees from your league. I completely understand what you are saying there, and as someone that likes Avery I don't completely agree with the suspension but I understand where Bettman is coming from. The main problem at hand though is the personal vendetta Avery has incurred from Bettman. Is it self imposed? Yes, when you say that you can single handedly run the league better by yourself without the whole league office it will cause things to come back to haunt you. As far as holding players to a higher standard. I don't think the league has to as for every 10-15 NFL/NBA players in trouble with the law you might, and that is pushing it as well, hear about one NHL player getting in some kind of legal problem.

[bcoop]

When you are a league that is not in the top three you have to moderate what the outside public sees from your league.



Yeah, I get that. But from everything I've heard on the radio, from non hockey fans, the consensus seems to be that now those people want to watch some hockey to figure out what this Sean Avery guy is all about. LOL! Any press is good press. They should have just let it go.

[Slowhand]

He got suspended for that? Hockey must have really gone downhill.

[bcoop]

Hockey must have really gone downhill.



They've been treading thin ice (no pun intended) since the strike, haven't they? I'm not a huge hockey fan. I used to follow the Stars, but nothing like I do with football. I haven't watched 5 minutes of any given game since they came back from the strike. And judging from friends/coworkers, etc, I'm not the only one.

[Sean88gt]

Avery's ex-girlfriend Elisha Cuthbert.

I don't care what sloppy division she is . . . she's effing hot!!!

He's suspended indefinatly. :eek:


Wow, so even you find her attractive?

How is what he did even on par with something Like Bertuzzi bitch punching Moore? They need to quit fagging up hockey. The guys that play used to be animals. Hell, they still are animals, just not allowed to act like it.

[Slowhand]

They've been treading thin ice (no pun intended) since the strike, haven't they? I'm not a huge hockey fan. I used to follow the Stars, but nothing like I do with football. I haven't watched 5 minutes of any given game since they came back from the strike. And judging from friends/coworkers, etc, I'm not the only one.

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I used to watch a large portion of the games before the strike. Now I'll attend a game if I get free tickets, but I can't tell you the last time I flipped on the TV and watched a game for more then 5-10 minutes.

[David]

When Bettman is gone, the league will improve.

I love the game and watch it every night.

[LannyN9NE]

Yeah, I get that. But from everything I've heard on the radio, from non hockey fans, the consensus seems to be that now those people want to watch some hockey to figure out what this Sean Avery guy is all about. LOL! Any press is good press. They should have just let it go.


Which has been a point that Avery himself has pointed out. The sport could market a hero/villian scenario and draw more attention.

One thing I would like to point out tho. This is more than likely a 2 game suspension, nothing more. Avery is meeting with Bettman Thursday and IMO will be given another verbal lashing and be done with it.

[LannyN9NE]

They've been treading thin ice (no pun intended) since the strike, haven't they? I'm not a huge hockey fan. I used to follow the Stars, but nothing like I do with football. I haven't watched 5 minutes of any given game since they came back from the strike. And judging from friends/coworkers, etc, I'm not the only one.


According to league revenue they are doing better, aside from the TV aspect. The larger issue with hockey not having the popularity that sports such as football/baseball/basketball is the inability for many people to play it growing up, therefore not having the attachment to it as they do other sports. It always has been a niche sport and always will be.

And for the "strike", just to be correct it was not a players a strike, instead it was an owner lockout so the league could introduce a salary cap.

[32VfromHell]

Personally, I think it's hilarious. I don't see anything wrong with what he said, and it DEFINITELY was not deserving of an indefinite suspension. The people that run the league are a bunch of fucking pussies. I wouldn't last 24 hours in the NHL if shit like that was a suspendable offense. I've said worse on, and off the field in sports I've played. I've said worse, to my bosses. I've said worse to customers. And I've said worse to competitors. Seriously? Sloppy seconds? That's offensive? Put your big girl undies on, and get the fuck over it. Really...


agreed. The NHL is the bitch of all the major sports, and this isnt going to help.

[Slowhand]

According to league revenue they are doing better, aside from the TV aspect. The larger issue with hockey not having the popularity that sports such as football/baseball/basketball is the inability for many people to play it growing up, therefore not having the attachment to it as they do other sports. It always has been a niche sport and always will be.

And for the "strike", just to be correct it was not a players a strike, instead it was an owner lockout so the league could introduce a salary cap.

It doesn't have to be a niche sport; the NHL's management chooses to make it so.

Hockey seemed to be gaining a lot of momentum going into the strike. Even coming out of it, they made some good ideas with making it a more offensively minded game. However, things like this incident and cracking down on fighting don't make people more interested.

Hockey could be the bad-boy of American sports. Instead, the NHL has tried to assimilate it with the MLB, NFL and NBA; those are three organizations that hockey will never be.

[ClockwrkOrangeS4]

I get that he's a shit talker, instigator, etc. But really, who gives a shit? I mean, since when is it the NHL's job to moderate what people say? This isn't Nazi Germany.


Professional sports associations have much bigger problems to worry about, than someone calling someone out on taking his sloppy seconds. Shit, look at football!


Oh, wait. The NHL holds their players to a higher standard. :rolleyes: Give me a friggin break.

He is still an employee. I can't say certain things where I work. Can you say anything you want in front of customers?

[ClockwrkOrangeS4]

...and even with this silliness, hockey is still > *

[gip99drop]

Why would he get suspended for saying that?

[sickspeedgt]

They suspended him because they didn't want a repeat incident of the bertuzzi-moore fiasco that happened a couple years back. There is a place to say dirt like that in hockey, and that would be on the ice. Todd Bertuzzi blatantly sucker punched Steve Moore which ended up with Bertuzzi having assault charges filled on him.

If the NHL doesn't suspend him they may as well put a big target on avery's back, which then puts the rest of the stars in the lime light. If someone goes after avery, the stars have to back him, or look like complete asshats.

Personally i found the comment funny, but i see why he got suspended after what happened in the past.

[ClockwrkOrangeS4]

agreed. The NHL is the bitch of all the major sports, and this isnt going to help.

At least he didn't shoot himself in the leg or sit out half the season with turf toe.

[RyanB]

I like hockey.

[Who Needs 8]

At least he didn't shoot himself in the leg or sit out half the season with turf toe.

Or get in a fight with the very people hired to protect him from himself. :rolleyes:

[Slowhand]

...and even with this silliness, hockey is still > *

ha.

[LannyN9NE]

It doesn't have to be a niche sport; the NHL's management chooses to make it so.

Hockey seemed to be gaining a lot of momentum going into the strike. Even coming out of it, they made some good ideas with making it a more offensively minded game. However, things like this incident and cracking down on fighting don't make people more interested.

Hockey could be the bad-boy of American sports. Instead, the NHL has tried to assimilate it with the MLB, NFL and NBA; those are three organizations that hockey will never be.


It gained momentum because that was the time that hockey made the major expansion south and was still the new kid in town. It goes back to the majority of people will support the sport they played growing up and hockey will never be that in the USA. I agree that taking the clutching and grabbing out has made it a better product, but you will never sell me on the fact that a higher offensive output will sell the game.

[LannyN9NE]

...and even with this silliness, hockey is still > *


I concur.

[Skidmark]

I'll take sloppy whatever...

http://linuxreviews.org/software/x11-terms/aterm/elisha-cuthbert-3.jpg

[Slowhand]

I'll take sloppy whatever...

Me too. :o :D

[Mustangman_2000]

Suspended over remark about sloppy seconds? That's weak.

Conduct detrimental to the league my ass. How about a simple fine, but instead they reacted like he is being accused of murder.

[bcoop]

He is still an employee. I can't say certain things where I work. Can you say anything you want in front of customers?



For the most part. We joke with on of my customers about making her water tight, all the time.


I've told a customer that they could go fuck themselves, and my boss backed me up because I was right.

[03trubluGT]

Personally, I think it's hilarious. I don't see anything wrong with what he said, and it DEFINITELY was not deserving of an indefinite suspension. The people that run the league are a bunch of fucking pussies. I wouldn't last 24 hours in the NHL if shit like that was a suspendable offense. I've said worse on, and off the field in sports I've played. I've said worse, to my bosses. I've said worse to customers. And I've said worse to competitors. Seriously? Sloppy seconds? That's offensive? Put your big girl undies on, and get the fuck over it. Really...

X2.

Really, an indefinate suspension over a comment? Gimme a friggin break. There's guys that have been seriously injured, and the person that caused the injury has gotten a game or two.

This is waaaay overkill for a friggin comment. If it was so bad, why did the media air it?
I guess because the media doesn't have standards, just another group of ignorant pieces of shit.

[03trubluGT]

I dont care much for hockey... I just think he should have some class and watch what he says cause little ears are still up when the news comes on. IMO


If you have little kids up at 10pm on a school night watching the news, you need to hone up on your parenting skills.

I have a 13 year old and a 10 year old and they are in bed by 9:30.

[JP135]

Avery is a special case and I agree with the league on this one. The organ-EYE-zation was playing captain Save-A-Ho when they picked him up; He has some things to offer but he's also widely known for being a complete asshole and doing something of this caliber every day.

He is a distraction that the Stars don't need right now. The story is that all the other players on the Stars hate his guts - he gets shit started and then won't show up and the rest of the team has to go fight battles he started.

I'd be willing to bet he's played his last game as a Star. I hope so.

[03trubluGT]

...and even with this silliness, hockey is still > *


Someone please explain this???

[ceyko]

Soooo..... why would anyone get mad over that comment?

[regaltip]

Because it was sloppy!

[David]

Someone please explain this???
Football and basketball suck. Golf, baseball, and soccer are the worst.

Therefore, hockey>* :D

But in all seriousness, starting to sound like Avery's time in Dallas is probably up.

[Yale]

It sounds like she left him, and now he's pissed. Honestly though, guys, how mad would you be if someone called your girlfriend "sloppy seconds" on international TV?

[jluv]

Serves him right. If he has a history of being a douchebag, he should have to watch what he says to the media. Look at it this way - he's not being suspended for being a jerk. He's being suspended for being stupid.

It's not like anyone is pressing charges or anything ridiculous like that. He's got an employer who expects him to live up to a certain standard and watch his mouth in front of the camera. If he doesn't like it he can quit the game and go do whatever the hell he wants to do. If people have a problem with how your boss runs shit, quit! No one is forcing him to do (or not do) a damn thing. He's not a slave or a prisoner. He has an amazing opportunity to make millions playing a sport. If he can't conform to the rules and wishes of the people that give him that opportunity, then he doesn't deserve it.

[ClockwrkOrangeS4]

Serves him right. If he has a history of being a douchebag, he should have to watch what he says to the media. Look at it this way - he's not being suspended for being a jerk. He's being suspended for being stupid.

It's not like anyone is pressing charges or anything ridiculous like that. He's got an employer who expects him to live up to a certain standard and watch his mouth in front of the camera. If he doesn't like it he can quit the game and go do whatever the hell he wants to do. If people have a problem with how your boss runs shit, quit! No one is forcing him to do (or not do) a damn thing. He's not a slave or a prisoner. He has an amazing opportunity to make millions playing a sport. If he can't conform to the rules and wishes of the people that give him that opportunity, then he doesn't deserve it.

Werd.

[Hollywood]

Serves him right. If he has a history of being a douchebag, he should have to watch what he says to the media. Look at it this way - he's not being suspended for being a jerk. He's being suspended for being stupid.

It's not like anyone is pressing charges or anything ridiculous like that. He's got an employer who expects him to live up to a certain standard and watch his mouth in front of the camera. If he doesn't like it he can quit the game and go do whatever the hell he wants to do. If people have a problem with how your boss runs shit, quit! No one is forcing him to do (or not do) a damn thing. He's not a slave or a prisoner. He has an amazing opportunity to make millions playing a sport. If he can't conform to the rules and wishes of the people that give him that opportunity, then he doesn't deserve it.


^I'm with stupid

[03trubluGT]

Serves him right. If he has a history of being a douchebag, he should have to watch what he says to the media. Look at it this way - he's not being suspended for being a jerk. He's being suspended for being stupid.

It's not like anyone is pressing charges or anything ridiculous like that. He's got an employer who expects him to live up to a certain standard and watch his mouth in front of the camera. If he doesn't like it he can quit the game and go do whatever the hell he wants to do. If people have a problem with how your boss runs shit, quit! No one is forcing him to do (or not do) a damn thing. He's not a slave or a prisoner. He has an amazing opportunity to make millions playing a sport. If he can't conform to the rules and wishes of the people that give him that opportunity, then he doesn't deserve it.

But the media supports this because they are the ones sticking the camera in his face and airing his comments. If you were a reporter and knew Avery's history, would you go looking to follow him? I wouldn't. I'd go looking for the more articulate players and try to catch a sound byte that was worth something. They knew exactly what the hell they were doing in this.

But, I do more or less agree with the second part about employee standards, providing your employer set out the ground rules at the beginning, and isn't trying to enforce a rule after-the-fact.

But this boils down to a suggestive comment. Come on folks, was it really that bad??? I have a feeling that an independant arbitrator would feel that this punishment was above and beyond the consistant punishment for an act of this type and would side with the player.

I would if I was the arbitrator. That's just too damn harsh for a comment like that. Now if he would have said that "her pussy stinks and she needs to wash that shit out with Listerene", then I would have a different opinion.

[Who Needs 8]

This just in: He's suspended 6 games unpaid retroactive to tuesday night, so he has 4 games left. And he has to enter Anger Management.

:rolleyes:

[David]

But the media supports this because they are the ones sticking the camera in his face and airing his comments. If you were a reporter and knew Avery's history, would you go looking to follow him? I wouldn't. I'd go looking for the more articulate players and try to catch a sound byte that was worth something. They knew exactly what the hell they were doing in this.

Of course they support it. You go where the goods are. Avery delivers on saying something controversial, controversy delivers readers.

Reporters care to report the good. However, like every where; you want the dirt, filth, anger, and straight retarded scenarios.

[03trubluGT]

Even TSN's website rates the clip as "14+", so it is ok for viewers 14 and above. If that's "OK", then there should be no suspension.

Bettman's just mad because he can't get a nice piece of tail like that.
Sloppy thirds, forths, or whatever.

[ceyko]

Serves him right. If he has a history of being a douchebag, he should have to watch what he says to the media. Look at it this way - he's not being suspended for being a jerk. He's being suspended for being stupid.

It's not like anyone is pressing charges or anything ridiculous like that. He's got an employer who expects him to live up to a certain standard and watch his mouth in front of the camera. If he doesn't like it he can quit the game and go do whatever the hell he wants to do. If people have a problem with how your boss runs shit, quit! No one is forcing him to do (or not do) a damn thing. He's not a slave or a prisoner. He has an amazing opportunity to make millions playing a sport. If he can't conform to the rules and wishes of the people that give him that opportunity, then he doesn't deserve it.


You're right for the most part. I don't like that, but you are. The reason I don't like it, is because I don't want hockey players to be too civilized. :)

[jluv]

You're right for the most part. I don't like that, but you are. The reason I don't like it, is because I don't want hockey players to be too civilized. :)

I can agree to that. And ya, they probably overreacted. But shit, it is what it is, and I don't feel too sorry for a guy who makes millions to play hockey. And it really was just a stupid comment. Did he really need to say that shit to the media to make himself feel better? And if you really think about it, does he only fuck virgins? Some real smack talk about hockey would be fine. If someting isn't done about these other stupid comments, the next thing you know, Fes is gonna pull up in his Escalade and they're gonna start trading lame "your mama" jokes.

[03trubluGT]

Here's an explanation from Ralph Strangis:

http://stars.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=396741

[LannyN9NE]

Here's an explanation from Ralph Strangis:

http://stars.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=396741


If it comes from Ralph's head I know it's better not to read it.

[tealsnake93]

That Ralph is a handsome devil!!

Avery is a good player, fun to watch, and truly talented.

But he is a king douche bag. I mean a real sack of dog shit. As his teamate I would'nt want all the flack that comes from all his douchebaggery. Although, for that kind of money I'd be cool with O.J. on my line.

[lolo89cpe]

she is pretty dang hott...

[03trubluGT]

If it comes from Ralph's head I know it's better not to read it.


Inside info?

[LannyN9NE]

Inside info?


A bit, plus I have never seen Ralph as someone who knows a whole lot of what is going on.

[kangol]

Dallas, TX December 14, 2008 – The Dallas Stars today announced that Sean Avery will not return to the NHL team. Representatives for both Avery and the Stars said they would continue to work together in support of Avery during “this sloppy time” for the player. All parties said there is a clear understanding that a second try to the Stars is not in the best interest of either the hockey club or Avery.