Polls are out

[Unseen]

UT makes gains in the AP and Coaches poll. KC here we come.

[DatDude]

UT makes gains in the AP and Coaches poll. KC here we come.
It isnt over yet... Oklahoma is ahead in the coaches poll still and took the lead in the computer average.... hell, took number one over Texas and Alabama. Harris should be online soon. Whoever is ahead in that poll takes the win.... unless its really, really, really close.

[Unseen]

It isnt over yet... Oklahoma is ahead in the coaches poll still and took the lead in the computer average.... hell, took number one over Texas and Alabama. Harris should be online soon. Whoever is ahead in that poll takes the win.... unless its really, really, really close.


Well crap I didn't see that. :o

[WhoaTX5.0]

here's the rankings.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

Oklahoma has a 1 point lead int he USA Today espn/coaches poll.
Texas gain in both polls.
Texas still has the higher SOS.

Cant wait for the harris poll..... I think it's going to be CLOSE.

I think TEXAS is still #2 in the BCS

[WhoaTX5.0]

It isnt over yet... Oklahoma is ahead in the coaches poll still and took the lead in the computer average.... hell, took number one over Texas and Alabama. Harris should be online soon. Whoever is ahead in that poll takes the win.... unless its really, really, really close.

Are you talking about the sagarin rankings?

[DatDude]

Are you talking about the sagarin rankings?
Im talking about all computer rankings this week. They are all released already.... you just have to do some searching.... or find a website that already lays it out for you.

[OkieJoe]

here's the rankings.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

Oklahoma has a 1 point lead int he USA Today espn/coaches poll.
Texas gain in both polls.
Texas still has the higher SOS.

Cant wait for the harris poll..... I think it's going to be CLOSE.

I think TEXAS is still #2 in the BCS
That's the AP dude. I don't think it is even used in computing the BCS.

[slow99]

That's the AP dude. I don't think it is even used in computing the BCS.

It isn't. The coaches poll, Harris Poll, and BCS computers do that.

[OkieJoe]

BCS computer polls are out OU is #1 followed by bama then texas. If the Harris still has OU ahead when it's released then it's OU vs. Mizzou.

[WhoaTX5.0]

That's the AP dude. I don't think it is even used in computing the BCS.

If you scroll down, its the ap, and USA today coaches poll

[Big Studly]

BCS computer polls are out OU is #1 followed by bama then texas. If the Harris still has OU ahead when it's released then it's OU vs. Mizzou.

what? where did you find this?

[OkieJoe]

A guy on OKDHM.com found it and posted it. Look under general chat in the forums. Thats Oklahoma dead horse mustangs.com.

[Juiceweezl]

2 first place votes for Oklahoma? Seriously? Just like last week when Florida got 2, those people shouldn't be allowed to vote. Like it or not, Alabama should be a unanimous number 1. Those 2 votes put OU ahead of UT by 1 point in the coaches' poll. What a joke that 2 people didn't vote or Alabama -- and I can't stand Alabama, but they are clearly the #1 team in the country.

[WhoaTX5.0]

BCS computer polls are out OU is #1 followed by bama then texas. If the Harris still has OU ahead when it's released then it's OU vs. Mizzou.

Well it's Texas ahead of OU in the Harris poll

[Nate]

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Nov_30_2008.pdf

UT over OU

Alabama (107) 2815 pts
Florida (4) 2619
UT (1) 2575
OU 2569

[DatDude]

It might not be enough points to overcome the other two polls..... its going to be very close either way. Fox is announcing it after the Giants game and they have already said there are big changes. It wont be long before everyone knows....

[OkieJoe]

This is crazy shit! got everybody on the edge of their seats.

[Big Studly]

2 first place votes for Oklahoma? Seriously? Just like last week when Florida got 2, those people shouldn't be allowed to vote. Like it or not, Alabama should be a unanimous number 1. Those 2 votes put OU ahead of UT by 1 point in the coaches' poll. What a joke that 2 people didn't vote or Alabama -- and I can't stand Alabama, but they are clearly the #1 team in the country.

yea, because we know only peoples opinions that favor Texas should matter to you UT fans.

[WhoaTX5.0]

This is crazy shit! got everybody on the edge of their seats.

No shit! LOL...... This is going to be VERY CLOSE

[Big Studly]

No shit! LOL...... This is going to be VERY CLOSE

I think the Harris Poll and the gain in the Coaches Poll locks it up for Texas.

[WhoaTX5.0]

I think the Harris Poll and the gain in the Coaches Poll locks it up for Texas.

Yeah, thats what I am hoping for, but it could be Oklahoma.

Oh yeah, i see you over there on the okdh.com

[Big Studly]

Yeah, thats what I am hoping for, but it could be Oklahoma.

Oh yeah, i see you over there on the okdh.com

yea, but I am hoping I am wrong...

anyone know where to find the results of the coaches poll, as in, each coaches ballot?

[Nate]

yea, but I am hoping I am wrong...

anyone know where to find the results of the coaches poll, as in, each coaches ballot?
You don't get to see those until the final vote of the year.

[WhoaTX5.0]

yea, but I am hoping I am wrong...

anyone know where to find the results of the coaches poll, as in, each coaches ballot?

yeah, but I hope your right... :D

I have been looking all over for the coaches poll ballot, and nothing yet.

[Big Studly]

You don't get to see those until the final vote of the year.

oh, I thought that it was for the final week of the season.

[Nate]

from another board.

Originally posted by minivette
Chip Brown said Texas just got a call that UT is #2 in BCS. We'll have to wait and see.

[Big Studly]

from another board.

That would have been my guess, I am going to go cry in a corner and finish my laundry.

[WhoaTX5.0]

You don't get to see those until the final vote of the year.

I thought it was made avaliable after the regular season?? :confused:

[Nate]

I thought it was made avaliable after the regular season?? :confused:
I thought it was just the final vote after Championship week...I may be wrong if someone wants to correct me.

[Juiceweezl]

yea, because we know only peoples opinions that favor Texas should matter to you UT fans.
No, I'd say the same if UT got first place votes. Notice I said Alabama should be unan. #1. That much is obvious.

[Juiceweezl]

I thought it was just the final vote after Championship week...I may be wrong if someone wants to correct me.
I thought the final season vote was made available along with the ending vote after bowls. I don't know for sure though.

[WhoaTX5.0]

I thought it was just the final vote after Championship week...I may be wrong if someone wants to correct me.

Not 100% sure on it...
Just thought it the coaches poll ballots were made public after the regular season and then the FINAL coaches poll, after the bowl games.

Alos what board did you see the comment about chip brown?

[Big Studly]

Boomer!

[WhoaTX5.0]

Oklahoma is #2 in the bcs....Its over.
Texas # 3
OU vs Mizzo

[Nate]

That was on another board...I have no clue who that guy is...UT did not get #2...OU is in the Big XII CG.

[Big Studly]

No, I'd say the same if UT got first place votes. Notice I said Alabama should be unan. #1. That much is obvious.

That is the deal with college football, because of so many teams, no team should EVER be a unanimous #1. It wouldn't make sense.

[Vertnut]

Oklahoma is #2 in the bcs....Its over.
Texas # 3
OU vs Mizzo
I can see how it could have gone either way. Congrats to OU.

[Badass2000gt]

Oklahoma is #2 in the bcs....Its over.
Texas # 3
OU vs Mizzo
Link?

[Nate]

Link?
Channel 4, fox.

[WhoaTX5.0]

Link?

that just showed it on Fox.
OU has a .935
Texas has a .922

[RJDCobra]

Let's see Texas beat both teams playing in the Big 12 Championship game next week. HHMMMMMM sounds like a great system to me.

[Big Studly]

Let's see Texas beat both teams playing in the Big 12 Championship game next week. HHMMMMMM sounds like a great system to me.

http://www.redstaplerchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kleenex.jpg

[Juiceweezl]

That is the deal with college football, because of so many teams, no team should EVER be a unanimous #1. It wouldn't make sense.
Alabama is undefeated in a major conference, and you don't think they should be unan #1 right now? Seriously? To think that for a second I actually had some football knowledge.

[Vertnut]

http://www.redstaplerchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kleenex.jpg
Try to be a gracious winner, Dickhead. :rolleyes:

[WhoaTX5.0]

I see his point completely..... on beating both OU and Mizzo
But maybe a repeat of 2003 BIG 12 Championship game?

And you may go get in the corner and cry afterall :D

[Big Studly]

Alabama is undefeated in a major conference, and you don't think they should be unan #1 right now? Seriously? To think that for a second I actually had some football knowledge.

and your point? LSU lost 2 games last year and won the national championship, and OU is ranked ahead of Texas. How good a team is isn't always about stats and wins and losses. People formulate opinions based on their observations and they are entitled to those opinions.

[WhoaTX5.0]

Alabama is undefeated in a major conference, and you don't think they should be unan #1 right now? Seriously? To think that for a second I actually had some football knowledge.

Yeah, thats kind of crazy there.
Only team from a BCS conference undefeated.
They should be the unanamious #1

[Big Studly]

Try to be a gracious winner, Dickhead. :rolleyes:

that is the only comment I have made after finding out the results...that I am actually surprised at. I am just sick of the whining by UT fans. It started a week ago, when UT was ahead in the BCS. Texas fans were whining then and they are going to get worse now. Texas should be whining that their secondary can't intercept a pass and two guys can't tackle Michael Crabtree when he is pinned up against the sideline. Either of those two things happen, the threads, debates, bitching, whining and controversy of the last week is erased.

[94StangFiveO]

Great. Everyone get ready to watch Chokelahoma get beat in another bowl game they didn't deserve in the first place.

[Kaji]

Let's see Texas beat both teams playing in the Big 12 Championship game next week. HHMMMMMM sounds like a great system to me.

Too bad they got beat by the 3rd place team in The Big 12 South. ;)

[Vertnut]

that is the only comment I have made after finding out the results...that I am actually surprised at. I am just sick of the whining by UT fans. It started a week ago, when UT was ahead in the BCS. Texas fans were whining then and they are going to get worse now. Texas should be whining that their secondary can't intercept a pass and two guys can't tackle Michael Crabtree when he is pinned up against the sideline. Either of those two things happen, the threads, debates, bitching, whining and controversy of the last week is erased.
For the most part, these are kids on here whining. After the first half with Tech, I was stunned that UT even made it a game. Hell, I even posted on a thread during the game saying so. I won't "get worse"...never have. You've always thought the press (or whoever) favored UT all season. Did you not hear all the knob-slobbering that crew did last night for Bradford? Holy shit! I happen to think OU or UT will/would beat 'Bama or Florida. It would be nice for OU to slip up against Mizzou, but it won't happen.

[Vertnut]

Too bad they got beat by the 3rd place team in The Big 12 South. ;)
...who beat the #1 team in the Big 12 by 10 points. :cool:

[emg]

For the most part, these are kids on here whining. After the first half with Tech, I was stunned that UT even made it a game. Hell, I even posted on a thread during the game saying so. I won't "get worse"...never have. You've always thought the press (or whoever) favored UT all season. Did you not hear all the knob-slobbering that crew did last night for Bradford? Holy shit! I happen to think OU or UT will/would beat 'Bama or Florida. It would be nice for OU to slip up against Mizzou, but it won't happen.


Florida would beat either Texas or Chokelahoma. too bad Texas is left out, all my friends Texas fans, i really wanted Texas vs Florida.

What if OU slips up against Mizzo. Will Texas(even if it didnt win the Big 12) make it to the NC game, or will USC jump them just cause they won their crappy conference?

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

that is the only comment I have made after finding out the results...that I am actually surprised at. I am just sick of the whining by UT fans. It started a week ago, when UT was ahead in the BCS. Texas fans were whining then and they are going to get worse now. Texas should be whining that their secondary can't intercept a pass and two guys can't tackle Michael Crabtree when he is pinned up against the sideline. Either of those two things happen, the threads, debates, bitching, whining and controversy of the last week is erased.
lmao....why would UT fans have a reason to whine until now? OU fans were the only fucking complainers and have been for weeks on end since they were behind UT in the standings. Using your theory that UT should have intercepted the pass or atleast tackled Crabtree.... Try this on for size: OU should be whining because had they beat Texas when they had a chance, the threads, debates, bitching, whining and controversy of the last week(s) is erased. Get your fucking story straight and the dick out of your ass you cock munching faggot.

UT has nothing to whine about......it is what it is. UT fans, especially posters on this board, have said that the Big 12 would benefit from a playoff system put in place to keep the naysayers in check. In this instance OU was soo scared they were gonna get left out and it almost happened. Now UT is left out unless a miracle happens.

[WhoaTX5.0]

Florida would beat either Texas or Chokelahoma. too bad Texas is left out, all my friends Texas fans, i really wanted Texas vs Florida.

What if OU slips up against Mizzo. Will Texas(even if it didnt win the Big 12) make it to the NC game, or will USC jump them just cause they won their crappy conference?

If OU loses to Mizzo, then it will be Texas vs the winner of the SEC championship

[Vertnut]

Florida would beat either Texas or Chokelahoma. too bad Texas is left out, all my friends Texas fans, i really wanted Texas vs Florida.

What if OU slips up against Mizzo. Will Texas(even if it didnt win the Big 12) make it to the NC game, or will USC jump them just cause they won their crappy conference?
No offense, but Florida ain't got shit but Tebow. OU's defense might struggle with him (after giving up 452 yards to OSU), but UT's defense is for real. It wou;d be a great match-up...and the Gator's would lose.

[WhoaTX5.0]

lmao....why would UT fans have a reason to whine until now? OU fans were the only fucking complainers and have been for weeks on end since they were behind UT in the standings. Using your theory that UT should have intercepted the pass or atleast tackled Crabtree.... Try this on for size: OU should be whining because had they beat Texas when they had a chance, the threads, debates, bitching, whining and controversy of the last week(s) is erased. Get your fucking story straight and the dick out of your ass you cock munching faggot.

UT has nothing to whine about......it is what it is. UT fans, especially posters on this board, have said that the Big 12 would benefit from a playoff system put in place to keep the naysayers in check. In this instance OU was soo scared they were gonna get left out and it almost happened. Now UT is left out unless a miracle happens.


Maybe that miracle can happen. ;)
Possibly a repeat of the 2003 BIG 12 championship game....

[the mex]

Maybe that miracle can happen. ;)
Possibly a repeat of the 2003 BIG 12 championship game....
typical ut.you guys beat us fair and square period.we had a bad game(like you guys did against tech)you beat osu on YOUR turf by what 4points?we beat them on THEIR turf by 20points.look at our non conference sos.look at how the teams we beat were ranked when we beat them.i would love to beat up on ut for the natl title but you guys just werent good enough to get there.

[exlude]

typical ut.you guys beat us fair and square period.we had a bad game(like you guys did against tech)you beat osu on YOUR turf by what 4points?we beat them on THEIR turf by 20points.look at our non conference sos.look at how the teams we beat were ranked when we beat them.i would love to beat up on ut for the natl title but you guys just werent good enough to get there.

We also never trailed them, OSU was not a clean 20 point win for OU. Stop talking stupid.

[the mex]

We also never trailed them, OSU was not a clean 20 point win for OU. Stop talking stupid.
i know,it was a 26 point win were it not for a very bad call.we were never trailing tech like you guys either.

[exlude]

i know,it was a 26 point win were it not for a very bad call.

Lmfao, time for you to walk away from the keyboard...and college football in general.

[Big Studly]

lmao....why would UT fans have a reason to whine until now? OU fans were the only fucking complainers and have been for weeks on end since they were behind UT in the standings. Using your theory that UT should have intercepted the pass or atleast tackled Crabtree.... Try this on for size: OU should be whining because had they beat Texas when they had a chance, the threads, debates, bitching, whining and controversy of the last week(s) is erased. Get your fucking story straight and the dick out of your ass you cock munching faggot.

UT has nothing to whine about......it is what it is. UT fans, especially posters on this board, have said that the Big 12 would benefit from a playoff system put in place to keep the naysayers in check. In this instance OU was soo scared they were gonna get left out and it almost happened. Now UT is left out unless a miracle happens.

you are fucking delusional. For the past week there has been nothing but whining by UT fans on how OU was ranked ahead of them in the Coaches and Harris Polls. You are right, they HAD nothing to whine about, oh but they were out in full force doing so. "Head-to-head" this and "45-35" that.

Why is there a thread about "OU nutswingers", started by a UT fan? I don't see shit on here started by an OU fan directed at UT fans.

As far as OU should be whining? OU doesn't have to, they are going to play in the Big 12 championship and UT is going to be sitting at home, undoubtedly whining.

[the mex]

Lmfao, time for you to walk away from the keyboard...and college football in general.
your right,it was a very smart move on osu's part to hurry hike the ball so stoops couldnt protest the call.due to them doing the hurry hike,they ended up with the ball and scored on it.the fact is,we beat them on their field worse than you beat them on your own field.the fact is,we are the team that is going to the big 12 and most likely the natl champ.i would love to see a playoff system so there wouldnt be an arguement about who deserves to go but in this case,we got the votes.

[WhoaTX5.0]

you are fucking delusional. For the past week there has been nothing but whining by UT fans on how OU was ranked ahead of them in the Coaches and Harris Polls. You are right, they HAD nothing to whine about, oh but they were out in full force doing so. "Head-to-head" this and "45-35" that.

Why is there a thread about "OU nutswingers", started by a UT fan? I don't see shit on here started by an OU fan directed at UT fans.

As far as OU should be whining? OU doesn't have to, they are going to play in the Big 12 championship and UT is going to be sitting at home, undoubtedly whining.


Dont let Mizzo win in the BIG 12 championship.... ;) (It's a long shot, but could happen)

i will be sending you alot of charmin tissue.....
fucked up on kleenex pic,
I hate OU, but as stated, I think Texas should be there, but OU is. So we'll see what happens saturday.

[94StangFiveO]

you are fucking delusional. For the past week there has been nothing but whining by UT fans on how OU was ranked ahead of them in the Coaches and Harris Polls. You are right, they HAD nothing to whine about, oh but they were out in full force doing so. "Head-to-head" this and "45-35" that.

Why is there a thread about "OU nutswingers", started by a UT fan? I don't see shit on here started by an OU fan directed at UT fans.

As far as OU should be whining? OU doesn't have to, they are going to play in the Big 12 championship and UT is going to be sitting at home, undoubtedly whining.
Because I can type anything and call anybody anything I want to on the fucking internet. I'll support my team on their best and worst days you sack of shit.

[Juiceweezl]

and your point? LSU lost 2 games last year and won the national championship, and OU is ranked ahead of Texas. How good a team is isn't always about stats and wins and losses. People formulate opinions based on their observations and they are entitled to those opinions.
Let's see. First you cry about the rankings are all about now as in this week/point in time of the season. Alabama destroyed Auburn, their biggest rival, and didn't allow a point in the game. They are undefeated, the only BCS conference team to be undefeated, yet you don't think they should be a unan #1. I give up. Of course I should expect no less than that from a idiot Okie like you. BTW, I love how Stoops attacks the computer in the past yet today in his press conference he praised them for looking at the complete season, blah, blah, blah. I guess they forgot to look at the part where he lost by 10 points on a neutral field to the team they edged out. The system is broken, and the Big 12 will change their process before next season. Mark my word.

[the mex]

Let's see. First you cry about the rankings are all about now as in this week/point in time of the season. Alabama destroyed Auburn, their biggest rival, and didn't allow a point in the game. They are undefeated, the only BCS conference team to be undefeated, yet you don't think they should be a unan #1. I give up. Of course I should expect no less than that from a idiot Okie like you. BTW, I love how Stoops attacks the computer in the past yet today in his press conference he praised them for looking at the complete season, blah, blah, blah. I guess they forgot to look at the part where he lost by 10 points on a neutral field to the team they edged out. The system is broken, and the Big 12 will change their process before next season. Mark my word.
dont be butt hurt beacuse you guys didnt do well enough to make it to the big 12 championship.neutral field?how the fuck is ou playing texas in texas a neutral field?have you ever been to ou/texas?ever notice the ratio of tx fans to ou fans?that would be like ou/tx being played at osu and us saying its a neutral field.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

dont be butt hurt beacuse you guys didnt do well enough to make it to the big 12 championship.neutral field?how the fuck is ou playing texas in texas a neutral field?have you ever been to ou/texas?ever notice the ratio of tx fans to ou fans?that would be like ou/tx being played at osu and us saying its a neutral field.
Wow....you are an idiot.....Please stop posting. Better yet drive a car off the cliff with Big Studly, bcoop, 99bringit, and that Canadian fucker that posts in the political forum in it.

[Big Studly]

Because I can type anything and call anybody anything I want to on the fucking internet. I'll support my team on their best and worst days you sack of shit.

45-35?

Try supporting them without being a whining little bitch next time!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/alphawolfau/kleenex.gif

[Juiceweezl]

dont be butt hurt beacuse you guys didnt do well enough to make it to the big 12 championship.neutral field?how the fuck is ou playing texas in texas a neutral field?have you ever been to ou/texas?ever notice the ratio of tx fans to ou fans?that would be like ou/tx being played at osu and us saying its a neutral field.
Can someone ban this guy from the sports forum please? The RRS is split 50/50 around the field, dumbass.

[Big Studly]

Let's see. First you cry about the rankings are all about now as in this week/point in time of the season. Alabama destroyed Auburn, their biggest rival, and didn't allow a point in the game. They are undefeated, the only BCS conference team to be undefeated, yet you don't think they should be a unan #1. I give up. Of course I should expect no less than that from a idiot Okie like you. BTW, I love how Stoops attacks the computer in the past yet today in his press conference he praised them for looking at the complete season, blah, blah, blah. I guess they forgot to look at the part where he lost by 10 points on a neutral field to the team they edged out. The system is broken, and the Big 12 will change their process before next season. Mark my word.

You apparently have no idea about human nature. Figures, you are a dumb ass Texas fan locked away in an outhouse wearing burnt orange boxers with shit stains in your teeth. Here is some shocking news, I don't vote in the polls, so what I think about Alabama didn't lose them any 1st place votes. Apparently there are other people in this world of ours..yes, it does extend beyond the UT campus and your mothers basement, that think the same thing, that at this week, Alabama isn't the best team in the nation. Wow, go figure some people think Florida is the best team in the nation. Fuck that one Texas fan that votes in the Harris Poll that voted UT the best team in the nation, and the Utah fan, they don't know anything about football. Well, the UT fan for sure. I guess a college football coach doesn't know anything about college football since they voted for Oklahoma and Florida either. Hell, Oklahoma LOST 1st place votes in the coaches poll anyway.

I can't comment on what Stoops said about the computers, but I can say the computers don't have a human element, so no brother-in-lawing for votes (OU's votes probably came from Leach and Mike Gundy or maybe even Spurrier), they just crunch real time numbers based on various elements of the game, and you know what, OU was 1st. The computers DO take into account the 45-35 loss, it just doesn't have the human emotion that goes along with it. Take the human emotion and agendas out and just look at the quality of the season, and OU is number 1. It is complex math and science and I am sure it is very hard to argue against the logic. That is also why it is only 1 part of the equation. People get influenced by scores, signs, planes flying overhead with a banner and head coaches calling in to interrupt a game to whine. The computers are not effected by that. Computers are not lazy either. You can't tell me there weren't some people that just saw they were the only undefeated team and voted them #1 based solely on that and that they are already at #1. Hell, there was one guy that forgot to vote in the harris poll last week. I am sure his opinion is VERY well educated. I am sure a coach coming off the field, preparing for next week really wanted to take the time to give a good evaluation of teams, they say 12-0 and voted them number 1 because that is where they have been all year.

Lastly, people are allowed to have opinions, that is why there isn't just one person to decide the rankings. Just because their opinion is different doesn't mean they are not an subject matter expert nor is their opinion less valid.

[exlude]

dont be butt hurt beacuse you guys didnt do well enough to make it to the big 12 championship.neutral field?how the fuck is ou playing texas in texas a neutral field?have you ever been to ou/texas?ever notice the ratio of tx fans to ou fans?that would be like ou/tx being played at osu and us saying its a neutral field.

You have brought new levels of dumb to the dfwstangs Sports Central, congrats.

[Big Studly]

Wow....you are an idiot.....Please stop posting. Better yet drive a car off the cliff with Big Studly, bcoop, 99bringit, and that Canadian fucker that posts in the political forum in it.


hahahaha....you know why I love seeing Texas lose? Not because I am an OU fan...well, yea that is one reason, but I love seeing all of the butt hurt UT fans bitch, moan, cry and complain about something when they do.

I spent last night laughing with my friend who is a 100% Michigan fan, whose wife and most of his friends are UT fans, about how he wanted OU to jump Texas just to "shut off of those dumb ass UT homers up".

My dad is a Tech fan, he laughed his ass off at the fact that UT fans would be bitching and moaning over this. He was right apparently.

What really makes my day is not OU jumping Texas, it is seeing all of you little bitches cry and continue to make excuses. I would probably just as happy if USC had some how jumped both UT and OU.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

hahahaha....you know why I love seeing Texas lose? Not because I am an OU fan...well, yea that is one reason, but I love seeing all of the butt hurt UT fans bitch, moan, cry and complain about something when they do.

I spent last night laughing with my friend who is a 100% Michigan fan, whose wife and most of his friends are UT fans, about how he wanted OU to jump Texas just to "shut off of those dumb ass UT homers up".

My dad is a Tech fan, he laughed his ass off at the fact that UT fans would be bitching and moaning over this. He was right apparently.

What really makes my day is not OU jumping Texas, it is seeing all of you little bitches cry and continue to make excuses. I would probably just as happy if USC had some how jumped both UT and OU.

DO NOT relate me to anything you have witnessed as being whining, a homer, or an excuse maker. If you would take them blinders off you would realize what I am typing or have typed. Unlike you, I don't suck dick nor do I only cheer for one team's ultimate success. I have stated many times that I am a fan of the Big 12 with UT being my favorite since I was 7 yrs. old. I have also stated numerous times to just let everything play out to see who goes where. You and countless other fucktards took the time to try and educate other fucking stupid people with facts that were regardless without definite outcome. You have more trouble reading then typing regurgitated bullshit. It's not UT's or their fans fault that you are dumb. Move along.

[Big Studly]

DO NOT relate me to anything you have witnessed as being whining, a homer, or an excuse maker. If you would take them blinders off you would realize what I am typing or have typed. Unlike you, I don't suck dick nor do I only cheer for one team's ultimate success. I have stated many times that I am a fan of the Big 12 with UT being my favorite since I was 7 yrs. old. I have also stated numerous times to just let everything play out to see who goes where. You and countless other fucktards took the time to try and educate other fucking stupid people with facts that were regardless without definite outcome. You have more trouble reading then typing regurgitated bullshit. It's not UT's or their fans fault that you are dumb. Move along.

hahaha, do you have amnesia or are you just that stupid? You have been on here just like every other UT fan making excuses and whining about head to heads and TTU "squeaking by" UT. You ARE a homer, a whiner, an excuse maker and a complete fucking idiot.

[Badass2000gt]

hahaha, do you have amnesia or are you just that stupid? You have been on here just like every other UT fan making excuses and whining about head to heads and TTU "squeaking by" UT. You ARE a homer, a whiner, an excuse maker and a complete fucking idiot.
OU is in the big 12 championship game because of a fucking computer. Lets just throw a fucking party now. :rolleyes:

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

hahaha, do you have amnesia or are you just that stupid? You have been on here just like every other UT fan making excuses and whining about head to heads and TTU "squeaking by" UT. You ARE a homer, a whiner, an excuse maker and a complete fucking idiot.
Quote me fag and then I will be more then glad to STFU.

[Big Studly]

Quote me fag and then I will be more then glad to STFU.

Why would I want you to shut up? I enjoy all of the butt hurt responses and seeing all of you UT fans get all pissy. I am not going to search through the treads to find your whining, but I do remember one instance after OU destroyed TTU about "TTU just squeaking by UT" or something trying to play off the loss as a last second loss, trying to defend the fact that UT got dominated and only led for 1:28 of that game.

"But we lost at the last second, sniff, sniff"!

[Badass2000gt]

Why would I want you to shut up? I enjoy all of the butt hurt responses and seeing all of you UT fans get all pissy. I am not going to search through the treads to find your whining, but I do remember one instance after OU destroyed TTU about "TTU just squeaking by UT" or something trying to play off the loss as a last second loss, trying to defend the fact that UT got dominated and only led for 1:28 of that game.

"But we lost at the last second, sniff, sniff"!
Ok when did Texas lose the lead. The last play of the game. If TT didnt score who would've won. Texas. I dont care if they were dominated the whole game until the last 1:28. I agree they were. But Texas had a chance of winning the game until the last play of the game. So how did they not lose the game on the last play?

[Big Studly]

Ok when did Texas lose the lead. The last play of the game. If TT didnt score who would've won. Texas. I dont care if they were dominated the whole game until the last 1:28. I agree they were. But Texas had a chance of winning the game until the last play of the game. So how did they not lose the game on the last play?

Tech scored on the last play of the game to re-take the lead, yes. A game is 60 minutes long, just ask Cal and Stanford. Texas lost that game way before the final play. Many teams get beat before they even step on the field.

[Badass2000gt]

Tech scored on the last play of the game to re-take the lead, yes. A game is 60 minutes long, just ask Cal and Stanford. Texas lost that game way before the final play. Many teams get beat before they even step on the field.
So are you saying if Texas somehow won that game (if they fuck head caught that easy INT), they were beat before they stepped on the field?

[Big Studly]

So are you saying if Texas somehow won that game (if they fuck head caught that easy INT), they were beat before they stepped on the field?

Texas' was beat at halftime and Tech let them back in it, which gave them back some life, just not enough to close it out.

[Badass2000gt]

Texas' was beat at halftime and Tech let them back in it, which gave them back some life, just not enough to close it out.
I dont think tech let them back in. I think Texas changed up the defense. Hell tech didnt score a TD in the second half until the last play of the game. I admit that Texas wasnt ready for some reason the first half. But I think the second half they proved why they were the #1 team in the nation. And I know a football game has two halfs in it and you better show up for both.

[Big Studly]

I dont think tech let them back in. I think Texas changed up the defense. Hell tech didnt score a TD in the second half until the last play of the game. I admit that Texas wasnt ready for some reason the first half. But I think the second half they proved why they were the #1 team in the nation. And I know a football game has two halfs in it and you better show up for both.

They might have proved it in the second half, but they also showed why they shouldn't be in the first. They were mentally beat and getting physically beaten up and down the field that day. They were fortunate enough to make a game out of it and Tech retook the lead on the last second. When you are dominated an entire game, you don't just lose on the last play, especially if you are the better team.

[Juiceweezl]

They might have proved it in the second half, but they also showed why they shouldn't be in the first. They were mentally beat and getting physically beaten up and down the field that day. They were fortunate enough to make a game out of it and Tech retook the lead on the last second. When you are dominated an entire game, you don't just lose on the last play, especially if you are the better team.
So UT mentally and physically whipping OU up and down the field in the second half to the point where their D was grabbing knees at the end means nothing then? You just don't get it. It's not a clear cut decision as to who should go. The teams are very, very close. However, one thing is certain when you compare the two teams -- UT beat OU by 10 on a neutral field. That point is beyond contention or discussion. It should count for more than it does.

[Juiceweezl]

You apparently have no idea about human nature. Figures, you are a dumb ass Texas fan locked away in an outhouse wearing burnt orange boxers with shit stains in your teeth. Here is some shocking news, I don't vote in the polls, so what I think about Alabama didn't lose them any 1st place votes. Apparently there are other people in this world of ours..yes, it does extend beyond the UT campus and your mothers basement, that think the same thing, that at this week, Alabama isn't the best team in the nation. Wow, go figure some people think Florida is the best team in the nation. Fuck that one Texas fan that votes in the Harris Poll that voted UT the best team in the nation, and the Utah fan, they don't know anything about football. Well, the UT fan for sure. I guess a college football coach doesn't know anything about college football since they voted for Oklahoma and Florida either. Hell, Oklahoma LOST 1st place votes in the coaches poll anyway.

I can't comment on what Stoops said about the computers, but I can say the computers don't have a human element, so no brother-in-lawing for votes (OU's votes probably came from Leach and Mike Gundy or maybe even Spurrier), they just crunch real time numbers based on various elements of the game, and you know what, OU was 1st. The computers DO take into account the 45-35 loss, it just doesn't have the human emotion that goes along with it. Take the human emotion and agendas out and just look at the quality of the season, and OU is number 1. It is complex math and science and I am sure it is very hard to argue against the logic. That is also why it is only 1 part of the equation. People get influenced by scores, signs, planes flying overhead with a banner and head coaches calling in to interrupt a game to whine. The computers are not effected by that. Computers are not lazy either. You can't tell me there weren't some people that just saw they were the only undefeated team and voted them #1 based solely on that and that they are already at #1. Hell, there was one guy that forgot to vote in the harris poll last week. I am sure his opinion is VERY well educated. I am sure a coach coming off the field, preparing for next week really wanted to take the time to give a good evaluation of teams, they say 12-0 and voted them number 1 because that is where they have been all year.

Lastly, people are allowed to have opinions, that is why there isn't just one person to decide the rankings. Just because their opinion is different doesn't mean they are not an subject matter expert nor is their opinion less valid.
One, college coaches shouldn't be allowed to vote unless it's made public. Spurrier still puts Duke 25th on his ballot because they gave him his first job. I'm sure there are others out there playing favorites as well for many teams. Coaches don't have enough time to watch other teams other than those they play against to give a true measure with their vote. They may look at a box score and highlights, but that's it. Those are the same people that probably think OSU light lost by 20 on Saturday when you, me, and everyone else knows that wasn't the case. Unfortunately, that system seems to only favor scoring. Sure, OU scored 45 on KU, 61 on OSU, 66 on aTm, but they surrendered 31, 41, and 28 respectively. UT scored 35, 28, and 49 against the same 3, but only surrendered 7, 24, 9. Average margin of victory = the same. UT showed domination on both the offensive side and on the defensive side. The polls put too much emphasis on scoring because people don't look at the teams and the games. I agree, whomever voted UT first should have their vote removed, but I said that about anyone that didn't vote Alabama #1. They are the only team in a major conference to be undefeated. They deserve to be a unan #1, and there's no way around it.

Two, as one of the ESPN analysts said, how many tackles have the computers or their programmers made? They don't know anything about the game and how tough it is to go against your biggest rival, play games in succession, or how much emotion does come into a game. They do so well at predicting the outcomes to games. Let's see, they probably predicted OU would beat UT, UT would beat Tech, and that Florida would beat Miss. Emotion is a part of college football, and it does have an effect on wins/losses. That's why the winners of the big games should be rewarded. The BCS is all about making every week count, or so they say, but I guess they don't mean it. The Big 12 is as much to blame for this as anyone for their flawed tiebreaker method. Maisel defined it perfectly, and you can bet they will change their system for next year.

[Big Studly]

So UT mentally and physically whipping OU up and down the field in the second half to the point where their D was grabbing knees at the end means nothing then? You just don't get it. It's not a clear cut decision as to who should go. The teams are very, very close. However, one thing is certain when you compare the two teams -- UT beat OU by 10 on a neutral field. That point is beyond contention or discussion. It should count for more than it does.

It does mean something, it means they played good enough to almost comeback and win, but not quite.

I do get it, I never said there was a clear cut favorite.

Since when was this a 2 team race? If I remember correctly there was a 3 way tie. The UT loss to Tech should count more than IT does because nobody brings it up.

[Big Studly]

One, college coaches shouldn't be allowed to vote unless it's made public. Spurrier still puts Duke 25th on his ballot because they gave him his first job. I'm sure there are others out there playing favorites as well for many teams. Coaches don't have enough time to watch other teams other than those they play against to give a true measure with their vote. They may look at a box score and highlights, but that's it. Those are the same people that probably think OSU light lost by 20 on Saturday when you, me, and everyone else knows that wasn't the case. Unfortunately, that system seems to only favor scoring. Sure, OU scored 45 on KU, 61 on OSU, 66 on aTm, but they surrendered 31, 41, and 28 respectively. UT scored 35, 28, and 49 against the same 3, but only surrendered 7, 24, 9. Average margin of victory = the same. UT showed domination on both the offensive side and on the defensive side. The polls put too much emphasis on scoring because people don't look at the teams and the games. I agree, whomever voted UT first should have their vote removed, but I said that about anyone that didn't vote Alabama #1. They are the only team in a major conference to be undefeated. They deserve to be a unan #1, and there's no way around it.

Two, as one of the ESPN analysts said, how many tackles have the computers or their programmers made? They don't know anything about the game and how tough it is to go against your biggest rival, play games in succession, or how much emotion does come into a game. They do so well at predicting the outcomes to games. Let's see, they probably predicted OU would beat UT, UT would beat Tech, and that Florida would beat Miss. Emotion is a part of college football, and it does have an effect on wins/losses. That's why the winners of the big games should be rewarded. The BCS is all about making every week count, or so they say, but I guess they don't mean it. The Big 12 is as much to blame for this as anyone for their flawed tiebreaker method. Maisel defined it perfectly, and you can bet they will change their system for next year.

The coaches shouldn't have a vote because they have some bias? That is rediculous and idiotic. By the way, not all coaches have votes...See Bob Stoops. Like I said somewhere, the coaches are the "experts", Harris Poll is the average fan and the computers just crunch the numbers. It ends up being a checks and balances.

As far as the computers, what does making a tackle have to do with programming a complex algorithm to analyze raw data? You need the computers to take the human element out becaues of what you described in your first paragraph. I agree with everything you said in the first paragraph, except coaches should have a vote and with so many opinions/reasons for voting how they do, there will never be a unanimous #1 unless the team is just down right dominant. My question is, if Alabama is the clear cut #1, why are they a 10 point underdog to Florida?

[bcoop]

Great. Everyone get ready to watch Chokelahoma get beat in another bowl game they didn't deserve in the first place.



Wow. Is that sand in your vagina, or do you have a wad of Daddy's splooge stuck in your throat? Either way, you're a sore fucking LOSER.

[Vertnut]

How would it feel to watch the Big 12 championship game, knowing you already beat both teams? Is that a silly scenario?

[94StangFiveO]

Wow. Is that sand in your vagina, or do you have a wad of Daddy's splooge stuck in your throat? Either way, you're a sore fucking LOSER.
2003
(3) Oklahoma (12-2, 8-0 Big 12) 14
(2) LSU (13-1, 7-1 SEC) 21

2004
(1) USC (13-0, 8-0 Pac-10) 55
(3) Oklahoma (12-1, 8-0 Big 12) 19

2005
(12) Oregon (10-2, 7-1 Pac-10) 14
(22) Oklahoma (8-4, 6-2 Big 12) 17


2006
5) Boise St (13-0, 8-0 WAC) 43
(11) Oklahoma (11-3, 7-1 Big 12) 42


2007
(9) West Virginia (11-2, 5-2 Big East) 48
(4) Oklahoma (11-3, 6-2 Big 12) 28


Looks like OU has been a more sore loser than myself after getting their asses raped 4 out of the last 5 years.

[bcoop]

How would it feel to watch the Big 12 championship game, knowing you already beat both teams? Is that a silly scenario?



This "both team" stuff doesn't really make sense to me. It doesn't matter that UT beat Mizzou. Why do you guys keep bringing it up?


How would it feel? Don't know, as I'm not the one in those shoes. The majority of the people on here aren't doing anything to rub it in. That guy is just a sore loser. Plain and simple. Waaa waaa waaa. It happened. Life will go on. Get over it.

[Vertnut]

2003
(3) Oklahoma (12-2, 8-0 Big 12) 14
(2) LSU (13-1, 7-1 SEC) 21

2004
(1) USC (13-0, 8-0 Pac-10) 55
(3) Oklahoma (12-1, 8-0 Big 12) 19

2005
(12) Oregon (10-2, 7-1 Pac-10) 14
(22) Oklahoma (8-4, 6-2 Big 12) 17


2006
5) Boise St (13-0, 8-0 WAC) 43
(11) Oklahoma (11-3, 7-1 Big 12) 42


2007
(9) West Virginia (11-2, 5-2 Big East) 48
(4) Oklahoma (11-3, 6-2 Big 12) 28


Looks like OU has been a more sore loser than myself after getting their asses raped 4 out of the last 5 years.
Hell, even Coop and Studly can't argue with that! :cool:

[bcoop]

2003
(3) Oklahoma (12-2, 8-0 Big 12) 14
(2) LSU (13-1, 7-1 SEC) 21

2004
(1) USC (13-0, 8-0 Pac-10) 55
(3) Oklahoma (12-1, 8-0 Big 12) 19

2005
(12) Oregon (10-2, 7-1 Pac-10) 14
(22) Oklahoma (8-4, 6-2 Big 12) 17


2006
5) Boise St (13-0, 8-0 WAC) 43
(11) Oklahoma (11-3, 7-1 Big 12) 42


2007
(9) West Virginia (11-2, 5-2 Big East) 48
(4) Oklahoma (11-3, 6-2 Big 12) 28


Looks like OU has been a more sore loser than myself after getting their asses raped 4 out of the last 5 years.


That's funny. Because after any of those losses, I haven't seen Stoops or any players showing such poor sportsmanship. Get over it, you dramatic cunt.

[94StangFiveO]

That's funny. Because after any of those losses, I haven't seen Stoops or any players showing such poor sportsmanship. Get over it, you dramatic cunt.
Makes sense you would say something like that. All you've got is name calling? Grow up.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

They have no basis for conversation other then stirring the pot and gloating. Fucking hypocrites if you will.

[bcoop]

Makes sense you would say something like that. All you've got is name calling? Grow up.



Dude, you're a poor sport. How else do you explain saying that OU doesn't deserve to be there? Really, I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting your response.


I call them like I see them. You're a sore loser. Plain and simple. You don't like it, go fuck yourself, faggot.

[bcoop]

They have no basis for conversation other then stirring the pot and gloating. Fucking hypocrites if you will.


Please, oh please show me where I've been gloating. Please. I'm begging you.

[Big Studly]

Hell, even Coop and Studly can't argue with that! :cool:

nope, can't argue with the losses....

but if OU beats Mizzou, at least they will have yet another shot at the national championship, where UT will be watching it on TV....again.

[Vertnut]

nope, can't argue with the losses....

but if OU beats Mizzou, at least they will have yet another shot at the national championship, where UT will be watching it on TV....again.
They'll beat Mizzou, and OU is about 1-5 in those "big games"... :cool:

[Big Studly]

They'll beat Mizzou, and OU is about 1-5 in those "big games"... :cool:

at least they had the opportunity. You can't win if you don't play. Besides, 2 of those losses, the best team did win, and would have beat anyone else that played them that day (Auburn included). The Boise St. game, I still say they didn't really get beat, they got tricked. No team is prepared for those plays; however, they should have never let Boise St. be in that game, so there is no excuse. I honestly don't remember last year.

[94StangFiveO]

Dude, you're a poor sport. How else do you explain saying that OU doesn't deserve to be there? Really, I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting your response.


I call them like I see them. You're a sore loser. Plain and simple. You don't like it, go fuck yourself, faggot.
Assuming OU beats Mizzou which is most likely to happen, you're telling me a team that has a history of choking in big games deserves to be playing for the National Championship? It's just shows what a joke the BCS system is.
Now you can fall off the edge of your seat and split your fucking face on the edge of your desk, dude. :rolleyes:

[Big Studly]

Assuming OU beats Mizzou which is most likely to happen, you're telling me a team that has a history of choking in big games deserves to be playing for the National Championship? It's just shows what a joke the BCS system is.
Now you can fall off the edge of your seat and split your fucking face on the edge of your desk, dude. :rolleyes:

This team doesn't have a history of choking in big games, the program might, but this is a different group of kids, why penalize them? Last year they were led by a freshman quarterback, who this year is arguably the best quarterback in the country and more experienced. They earned a shot and should not be penalized because of past games. This group of kids had nothing to do with 2003, 2004, 2006 and some had nothing to do with last year.

[Badass2000gt]

This team doesn't have a history of choking in big games, the program might, but this is a different group of kids, why penalize them? Last year they were led by a freshman quarterback, who this year is arguably the best quarterback in the country and more experienced. They earned a shot and should not be penalized because of past games. This group of kids had nothing to do with 2003, 2004, 2006 and some had nothing to do with last year.
Some of them might had something to do with 2006.

[94StangFiveO]

This team doesn't have a history of choking in big games, the program might, but this is a different group of kids, why penalize them? Last year they were led by a freshman quarterback, who this year is arguably the best quarterback in the country and more experienced. They earned a shot and should not be penalized because of past games. This group of kids had nothing to do with 2003, 2004, 2006 and some had nothing to do with last year.
It's a Sooner tradition. If they didn't want to play for a team that has a reputation of being a choke artist, they should've gone to a different school. It also isn't solely the players that this reflects onto.

Don't feel bad about being a fan of team you know can't hack it in the big games. I know how it is, me being a Cowboys fan and all...

[Badass2000gt]

It's a Sooner tradition. If they didn't want to play for a team that has a reputation of being a choke artist, they should've gone to a different school. It also isn't solely the players that this reflects onto.

Don't feel bad about being a fan of team you know can't hack it in the big games. I know how it is, me being a Cowboys fan and all...
That is why the cowboys have 5 superbowl rings. :rolleyes:

[stock85]

It's a Sooner tradition. If they didn't want to play for a team that has a reputation of being a choke artist, they should've gone to a different school. It also isn't solely the players that this reflects onto.

Don't feel bad about being a fan of team you know can't hack it in the bowl games. I know how it is, me being a Cowboys fan and all...

OU beat Mizzou twice last year with No. 1 and 11 rankings, beat Texas last year......beat No. 2 at home this year by 44 points, just beat the No. 11 ranked OSU Cowboys by 20 at home.........5 Big 12 Championships, going for number six.........I'd say those are pretty big games.........you will hear no argument from me about the bowl games, because........well........what can I argue.......at least they got there?

[Badass2000gt]

OU beat Mizzou twice last year with No. 1 and 11 rankings, beat Texas last year......beat No. 2 at home this year by 44 points, just beat the No. 11 ranked OSU Cowboys by 20 at home.........5 Big 12 Championships, going for number six.........I'd say those are pretty big games.........you will hear no argument from me about the bowl games, because........well........what can I argue.......at least they got there?
Wow they fucking got there. Big fucking deal. If you are just happy about them getting there and not winning, then you are no better then an A&M fan. Who thinks they have a successful season if they beat Texas and have a 4-7 record. :rolleyes:

[Juiceweezl]

Wow they fucking got there. Big fucking deal. If you are just happy about them getting there and not winning, then you are no better then an A&M fan. Who thinks they have a successful season if they beat Texas and have a 4-7 record. :rolleyes:
On behalf of educated and informed UT fans, please stop posting.

[stock85]

Wow they fucking got there. Big fucking deal. If you are just happy about them getting there and not winning, then you are no better then an A&M fan. Who thinks they have a successful season if they beat Texas and have a 4-7 record. :rolleyes:


Dude seriously........it's like you cannot comprehend anything because I'm a sooner fan........you see my name and immediately resort to hate........fucking relax dude.......take a moment to read what I actually typed......

[94StangFiveO]

That is why the cowboys have 5 superbowl rings. :rolleyes:
Not referring to the days of Aikman, Smith, Irvin or even earlier days when I wasn't even around to know what a fucking football was. Quit trying to dig for pointless arguements.

[Badass2000gt]

Not referring to the days of Aikman, Smith, Irvin or even earlier days when I wasn't even around to know what a fucking football was. Quit trying to dig for pointless arguements.
Not trying to argue anything. Hell I agree with most of your above post. But if you are talking about the cowboys recently then yes they do choke. The reason I call them the chokeboys.

[Badass2000gt]

On behalf of educated and informed UT fans, please stop posting.
Fuck off.

[bcoop]

On behalf of educated and informed UT fans, please stop posting.



LOL!

[94StangFiveO]

Not trying to argue anything. Hell I agree with most of your above post. But if you are talking about the cowboys recently then yes they do choke. The reason I call them the chokeboys.
Yep, so as of lately the Sooners choke, so nothing wrong with calling them Chokelahoma.

[bcoop]

Assuming OU beats Mizzou which is most likely to happen, you're telling me a team that has a history of choking in big games deserves to be playing for the National Championship? It's just shows what a joke the BCS system is.
Now you can fall off the edge of your seat and split your fucking face on the edge of your desk, dude. :rolleyes:



What does history have to do with anything? Yes, they deserve to be there. Just like I said UT would have, had they been the ones to make it. But, they didn't.


I'm not disagreeing that the BCS is a joke, I think it is. I want a playoff system. But, exactly how does history factor in to BCS? It doesn't. I'd tell you to stop while you are ahead, but, well.... You're not.

[Badass2000gt]

Yep, so as of lately the Sooners choke, so nothing wrong with calling them Chokelahoma.
Might have to start doing that. Thanks. :D