Springfield .45acp

[Mike69]

What's the difference between these 2 pistols? I want a .45 for carry & plan on getting my CHL. Would either one be good to carry?

http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397866679.html
http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397872267.html

[Yale]

The stainless one has a better hammer, trigger, grip safety, sights, and it's a safe bet it has a better barrel. They'd both be fine, but thy both look like they might snag on clothes. I carry a Light Weight Commander that's modded similarly, and it's a joy to shoot, fwiw. I have Pachmyr wrap-around grips, though. If you have big hands, they help a lot.

[Buzzo]

those are two heavy ass guns for everyday carry.

[Yale]

The LWC I carry feels almost as light as a Glock, but you're right. 1911's aren't always a great choice, short of the pocket guns being made by Kimber and such.

[Mike69]

What would you guys recomend for a good carry gun in a .45? I don't want a Glock either.

[Yale]

Why is .45 necessary? Also, the ONLY reason I don't swing Glock's short and curlies, is I don't like the way the gun feels in my hand. Beyond that, they're possibly the best mass-manufactured handgun in the world. They're forgiving shooters to say the least, and damn near indestructible.

[GT Dan]

I have one of these and love it... It was expensive but if I ever have to use the damn thing, I want to make sure I can count on it...

http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/cdp/ultra_cdp_II/

Springfield makes great guns. Beyond the 1911 line, they also make the XD.

It really depends on how much you can afford...

[Buzzo]

Im a huge HK fan. Theyre high as hell, but theyre awsome guns. You can pick up a used usp compact for around 650

Springfield makes hell of a nice polimer frame compact and supcompact 45 xd, theyre cheap, well made, and they offer a full lifetime warranty no matter if youre the orginal owner or the 20th owner. I think theyre very nice pistols

[big pappa pump]

i have this model it a loaded lightweight. sweet gun, i might build a shorter slide setup to have a carry pistol.

[SBBII]

For most males, a good IWB holster will make either carryable, but this is a case of "If you have to ask, you shouldn't be choosing between these two."

A GI model is a poor choice as a CCW. At the minimum, a carry 1911 needs good sights and a beavertail grip safety, as well as a little smithing for reliability and function. If it's a brand new gun I'd shoot a minimum of 500 rounds to ensure hardware functionality. And _you_ need to shoot at least that many with some training (someplace like http://www.texaspistol.com/ or http://www.txcqb.com/welcome.html or http://chltraining.com/ or http://www.seguns.com/classes.html) for your own proficiency. Merely carrying a firearm, or just passing the practical portion of the CHL is like handing the average dfwstanger a sharp scapel and saying "You got the right tool, remove my appendix."

The .45 ACP round is very good for self defense. My carry gun is a .38 cal S&W J-frame with Crimson Trace grips, cause "The first rule of a gunfight is have a gun." The vast majority of the time a private citizen uses a firearm in self-defense, merely drawing the weapon ends the incident. I mean maintaining distance (when you have the chance) and showing the assailant you're armed. The perp who plans to assault you with fists, a club or a knife usually decides the ROI isn't acceptable when finding a gun pointed at him.

That said, if you draw it, you better be willing to aim COM and pull the trigger as required. Don't brandish and dammit, don't fire warning shots.

[5111]

I carry two different 1911s. One is a Colt Officers model. It is heavy, but with a good holster you don't even notice the weight. The other is a Kimber UCII. It is much lighter, but with my holster I don't really notice a difference.

[Mike69]

My current gun is a Sig SP2022. It's a nice gun but have always wanted a .45

[dee]

i have the kimber CDP in full frame and i love it there a great choice and if the 1911 is a very reliable gun the army is starting to switch back to them most special forces are allready using them

[FatassLX]

A GI model is a poor choice as a CCW. At the minimum, a carry 1911 needs good sights and a beavertail grip safety, as well as a little smithing for reliability and function.

why? i rotate a GI in and out of carry. factory sights and no beavertail. no work done to it either aside from a set of pachmayr grips. a 1911 does not need all the fancy bullshit to shoot well.

i would carry either one of those two. you may also want to look at the colt officers, defender and commanders if your looking at smaller 1911's.

[NTexas_V-Star]

FWIW, I went to Gander and poked around after work today....any of you guys ever look into Para? They make a sub compact .45 called the Warthog; it is tiny, lightweight, and holds a 10 round magazine (staggered stack). Pretty nice little gun, if ya want the .45 but don't wanna carry a cannon around with ya.

As far as quality and whatnot....i don't know, thats the first I ever heard of them, when the guy behind the counter handed it to me.

[dee]

para's not bad they kinda pioneered the double stake/ high cap. mag 1911

[Mike69]

What about this Sig?
http://www.gunsamerica.com/968468265/Guns/Pistols/Sig-Sauer-Sigarms-Pistols/SIG_220_45_CARRY_ELITE.htm

[GT98SVO]

GI and Mil-spec are the entry level Springfield Armory pistols.

The $800 dollar has some better parts and is stainless steel compared to the $500 GI.

I recommend a striker-fired weapon for CCW. Cocked and Locked single action is for someone with experience and lots of recent practice. SA/DA is not bad like a CZ, Sig or H&K.

If you like 45 ACP but don't want striker-fired polymer, try a Para LDA. They have many sizes, finishes, features. Sig Sauer has a DAK(lightweight double action) and SAS. SAS is marketed as snag-free for CC. A new Sig is $800, or $1000 for the Elite.

[momo stallion]

speaking of 1911s... anyone got any feeback on the taurus pt 1911? its cheap and has a rebate putting it below 500 but has a shit ton of custom work making it comparable to models twice the price.

[big pappa pump]

speaking of 1911s... anyone got any feeback on the taurus pt 1911? its cheap and has a rebate putting it below 500 but has a shit ton of custom work making it comparable to models twice the price.

I haven't shot one but I did look at one for a while before i got my springfield. if i bought a new 1911 on a budget the taurus is the way to go.

[Yale]

FWIW, I went to Gander and poked around after work today....any of you guys ever look into Para? They make a sub compact .45 called the Warthog; it is tiny, lightweight, and holds a 10 round magazine (staggered stack). Pretty nice little gun, if ya want the .45 but don't wanna carry a cannon around with ya.

As far as quality and whatnot....i don't know, thats the first I ever heard of them, when the guy behind the counter handed it to me.
The only downside to a double stack mag .45 in a CC role is it's bulky. It really takes away from the concealability, while a single stack 1911 is much more slender. 10rds in something the size of a PPK is going to have a huge profile.

[momo stallion]

I haven't shot one but I did look at one for a while before i got my springfield. if i bought a new 1911 on a budget the taurus is the way to go.

which springfield did you go with?

[aggie97]

What would you guys recomend for a good carry gun in a .45? I don't want a Glock either.

Sig 220 Compact. I have one and love it! Full frame design and accuracy in a smaller package, but still fits a large hand. I carry this every where I can....

I also have two full frame 220's and can build them as a full frame or carry model in all stainless. Carry model has 8+1 capacity, just a shorter barrel.

the big issue is most compact .45's you will only get 7 rounds or less! My CZ 9mm has 14+1 but I rarely carry it.

If you are just looking for a noise maker to have and feel secure with, a Keltec .380 or 9mm work great and are VERY easy to carry in a pocket. Keep in mind most self defense shootings happen at less than 7 yards and the mere site of a weapon will usually make the offending party shit their pants and run.

[NTexas_V-Star]

The only downside to a double stack mag .45 in a CC role is it's bulky. It really takes away from the concealability, while a single stack 1911 is much more slender. 10rds in something the size of a PPK is going to have a huge profile.


Oh yea, the Warthog was a fat little gun, lol. I considered that while looking at it, but if I remember correctly, they also make a more slender, single stack pistol, I think it's called the SAS?? That would be the ticket.

[NTexas_V-Star]

speaking of 1911s... anyone got any feeback on the taurus pt 1911? its cheap and has a rebate putting it below 500 but has a shit ton of custom work making it comparable to models twice the price.


There's one at the pawnshop next to where I work for either 500 or 550.

That's all I know.

[big pappa pump]

which springfield did you go with?


look up towards the top of the thread

[momo stallion]

There's one at the pawnshop next to where I work for either 500 or 550.

That's all I know.

i saw it new at bullet trap for $550 and there is a $75 rebate. i'm thinking about getting it.

[momo stallion]

look up towards the top of the thread


good choice. im considering something like that or an operator myself... if not a kimber.