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Brandon-K
11-06-2008, 06:36 PM
I'd have pm'd you but apparently you've exceeded your pm storage space. I'm coming up on week 2 of my PH cycle. Just wondering if you have a favorite PCT supp. I was looking at the Novodex XT as its a featured product on lockout forums, but have heard from a few people that the 6-OXO is the way to go. Also I noticed that you said there are other good products with tren in them(besides the banned Tren-x). I wanted to try some magnadrol with some type of tren PH. Any input would be much appreciated.

exlude
11-06-2008, 08:05 PM
Which PH?

Also, to anyone reading, it's a bad idea to start a cycle without PCT and support on hand.

GRAYHORSE
11-06-2008, 08:09 PM
Brandon,

I fixed my pm box...

Personally if you want to do it right i would get a PCT with a estrogen blocker AND a natural test booster.
6-oxo is used during PCT stacked but is not a good PCT by itself.
However 6-oxo Xtreme is one of the best PCT's on the market. Problem is it only comes with a 2 week supply.

So with that said i would run one of the following.

1. Novedex XT/Vitrix/Fish Oil
2. 6-oxo Xtreme/Vitrix/Fish Oil
3. T Bomb II/6-oxo/Fish Oil

All those will be good for you and you can read about them each on the site.
If you want to go the cheap route then just get the Novedex XT but you'll keep almost all you gains if you do one of the above.


On the TRN-X, I have you covered. LGI is coming out with some strong stuff and Tren is in one of the stacks. They will have a Lean Stack and a Mass Stack and the good thing is that cycle support will be in the stack as well.
Purus Labs is also coming out with a couple of new products.

GRAYHORSE
11-06-2008, 08:14 PM
oh yeah, Tren is not banned, BOSC just ran out of raws and discontinued TRN-X which is 90mg of Tren daily.

Brandon-K
11-06-2008, 08:55 PM
Which PH?

Also, to anyone reading, it's a bad idea to start a cycle without PCT and support on hand.

It's called P-Factor by Anabolic Labs. I don't know if it is any good...but I am seeing pretty decent gains so far. A few guys at the gym have recommended it so I thought I'd give it a try. As for the PCT not being on hand, I have 3 places locally where I can get the stuff that I need. To be honest I just didn't have the change at the time. I will however keep all the peices on hand from the get go from now on. The P factor is 17a-methyl-5a-androst-2-een-17b-ol @ 10mg


oh yeah, Tren is not banned, BOSC just ran out of raws and discontinued TRN-X which is 90mg of Tren daily.

All good information Greg. I'll get with you when I need my next PH stack. I hear 2 weeks is a good cool down period in between cycles. This ok or does it need to be longer?

GRAYHORSE
11-06-2008, 09:06 PM
All good information Greg. I'll get with you when I need my next PH stack. I hear 2 weeks is a good cool down period in between cycles. This ok or does it need to be longer?


haha, try 2 months. Who told you 2 weeks?

Oh, you're taking PheraPlex. It's a mass gainer. I dont know much about that brand, you should be gaining some good weight on Phera, if not it's a trash raw...

HECDOGGIE
11-07-2008, 08:38 AM
Greg.. I am taking the 6 0x0 by itself,, I just finished trn/halovar on wed.


Started the 60x0 on tuesday..

What do you suggest?

The Raven
11-07-2008, 09:43 AM
You should cycle off for at least as long as you were on, and it's a good idea to have PCT in hand before even starting a cycle.

92gt
11-07-2008, 11:00 AM
Just came off of Tr-x and magnadrol today. I just took 3/ea/day for 30 days. I feel good right now and am a lot stronger than when I started. Not as strong as the majority of you interent warriors, but stronger than I was when I started. Yes it is a good idea to have your PCT ready before you begin, but we are talking about over the counter stuff here. All of it, including the PCT. You can just run down and grab that. I will run some novladex and a test booster along with the fish oil. I have enough Novladex for 2 weeks. I will update if I keep my gains or not. From my past experience, I would guess I will.

GRAYHORSE
11-07-2008, 11:22 AM
Greg.. I am taking the 6 0x0 by itself,, I just finished trn/halovar on wed.


Started the 60x0 on tuesday..

What do you suggest?

I'd pick up some Novedex XT for $29.99 to run with it. Cheap and effective.

HECDOGGIE
11-07-2008, 12:52 PM
I'd pick up some Novedex XT for $29.99 to run with it. Cheap and effective.


Oh,.,, do both?

GRAYHORSE
11-07-2008, 01:11 PM
Oh,.,, do both?


yes, 6 oxo is not an AI unless you're taking 6oxo Xtreme.

Brandon-K
11-07-2008, 11:40 PM
haha, try 2 months. Who told you 2 weeks?

Oh, you're taking PheraPlex. It's a mass gainer. I dont know much about that brand, you should be gaining some good weight on Phera, if not it's a trash raw...

The guy at DSN not knowing what he's talking about or just trying to sell me more shit. I've just now started to put on some weight..bout 3 pounds since I started. Well see how it works out in the end. We lost some people at my job so my work/eating schedule has been kinda wack.

Brandon-K
11-08-2008, 12:56 AM
Just ordered Novedex XT/Vitrix/CytoGain/ALRI C2 from ya under the email brandon.keathley@gmail.com

Good prices on the lot of it. Thanks for all the advice.

GRAYHORSE
11-08-2008, 01:10 AM
Just ordered Novedex XT/Vitrix/CytoGain/ALRI C2 from ya under the email brandon.keathley@gmail.com

Good prices on the lot of it. Thanks for all the advice.


I'll get it sent out in the morning with some samples too, thanks!

Oh yeah, that all makes a great PCT stack.

poopnut2
11-08-2008, 08:48 AM
Hey graypubes, did you ever get those weights from my pops?

GRAYHORSE
11-08-2008, 09:09 AM
Hey graypubes, did you ever get those weights from my pops?

naww, i didnt call. I've been really busy and with the economy the gym may be a little longer away. :(