The best man actually won!

[gpamp]

Seriously... you guys really are sore losers. Threads wishing death upon an American President elect? Really?

And Mustangman, if you're seriously ashamed of your country, I hear Kenya's nice. Get there.

[ayzo]

http://i36.tinypic.com/5y6u88.gif

[Temple 5.0]

Seriously... you guys really are sore losers. Threads wishing death upon an American President elect? Really?

And Mustangman, if you're seriously ashamed of your country, I hear Kenya's nice. Get there.

who did you hear that from and what made you say kenya? I don't agree with the wishing death but I thought it was strange that kenya borders Muslim loving countries. I also think it's strange that a large number of Muslim countries are the most f-d up places. If i wanted to change to a third world country i would have voted obama also. Brilliant post man, lets archive this and bring it back after presidential support has dropped through the floor.

[Stang Seller]

who did you hear that from and what made you say kenya? I don't agree with the wishing death but I thought it was strange that kenya borders Muslim loving countries. I also think it's strange that a large number of Muslim countries are the most f-d up places. If i wanted to change to a third world country i would have voted obama also. Brilliant post man, lets archive this and bring it back after presidential support has dropped through the floor.
You republicans are a bunch of sore losers and never have anything positive to say about anything on the other side of the fence. Fucking grow up, your side lost so stop being little bitches and whining about completely irrelevant shit. Be a man and take the loss like a man. Obama is the best thing that could have happened to the United States, and the WORLD agrees.
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[Vertnut]

The American people voted, and wanted change. Is it my guy? Nope. I don't recall wishing death on anyone. As a matter of fact, I've said I want Barry to live through his term, and do well. Nobody wants him to fail.

God knows why that stupid-ass canadian is on this board again, sticking his nose in America's business. I mean, really. I thought he had been banned... :cool:

[Denny]

You republicans are a bunch of sore losers and never have anything positive to say about anything on the other side of the fence. Fucking grow up, your side lost so stop being little bitches and whining about completely irrelevant shit. Be a man and take the loss like a man. Obama is the best thing that could have happened to the United States, and the WORLD agrees.
SS
Republicans didn't lose. The US lost... and ultimately the world loses.

I'm with Vertnut. I'm going to pray that he does what's best while in Office. Anyone wanting their President to fail is basically wanting the country to fail. I just hope "his best" is what is best for this nation. Whether it' happens to be right or wrong, failure in his position is serious failure to all of us.

[Mustangman_2000]

Seriously... you guys really are sore losers. Threads wishing death upon an American President elect? Really?

And Mustangman, if you're seriously ashamed of your country, I hear Kenya's nice. Get there.

First, I think the thread about the Obama death poll was stupid and in poor taste. And that is basically what I said when I saw that thread.

Secondly, I am ashamed at the direction we are taking. I'm ashamed at all the life long Republicans that sold out their base and voted for Obama on the basis of race. I'm ashamed that our country made a decision that compromises our safety. I could go on and on.

And I have a question for you that I know you can't answer. When Michelle Obama said after her husband won the Primary, that this is the first time she's been proud of this country. How did that make you feel? Did you send her a letter recommending that she move to Kenya?

She was never proud of this country prior to that moment. All of the sacrifices and accomplishments made that created a path for Obama to ascend into the highest office in the land. Nothing to acknowledge there, I guess?

Send the Obama's a copy of your feelings on the matter. Don't be so selective when you start hurling around tasteless insults such as this. Try and include everyone for the sake of fairness. You should understand the concept of fairness being an Obama supporter.

See, Michelle and I are a little different on this subject of pride. I was very prideful of this country from birth until last night. Michelle Obama was not proud of this country from birth up until 6 months ago.

Bummer, huh?

[topher]

Republicans didn't lose. The US lost... and ultimately the world loses.

I'm with Vertnut. I'm going to pray that he does what's best while in Office. Anyone wanting their President to fail is basically wanting the country to fail. I just hope "his best" is what is best for this nation. Whether it' happens to be right or wrong, failure in his position is serious failure to all of us.
As always you speak the truth.

My 4 year old asked me last night at dinner if I had a good time voting yesterday. I was blessed with a bright little girl who listens closely to me and wants to understand the things I do to the best of her ability. With the pride instilled in me by my grandparents and my parents I proudly answered her YES. She then asked me why I voted and what voting meant. I told her that it is our responsibility in this wonderful country to vote for and try and pick the best people to lead us and make big decisions for all of us. She then asked me if I voted for the best person and if they were going to win. I told her that I made the best decision to vote for the man I believed in to do his best for us. I also told her he may not win, but that it is our job to hold whoever is elected to his promises.

I too like Denny will be praying that Obama will do whatever is in his power to protect our country from harm and make this a better place to live. If not like I told my daughter he has 4 years and if he does not do his job it our duty to replace him with someone who will.

[Stang Seller]

The American people voted, and wanted change. Is it my guy? Nope. I don't recall wishing death on anyone. As a matter of fact, I've said I want Barry to live through his term, and do well. Nobody wants him to fail.

God knows why that stupid-ass canadian is on this board again, sticking his nose in America's business. I mean, really. I thought he had been banned... :cool:
"Bla bla bla, I'm butthurt because McCain lost and I have nothing constructive to add so I'll insult the 'Canuck'" - Vertnut
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[Vertnut]

"Bla bla bla, I'm butthurt because McCain lost and I have nothing constructive to add so I'll insult the 'Canuck'" - Vertnut
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You see? That's why you have no business on this board. I'm not on Canadian boards for any reason. Why? I have no BUSINESS on there, that's why. Thanks for proving my point with your "drivel" and lack of respect for what this country is going through.

[Mr Majestyk]

"Bla bla bla, I'm butthurt because McCain lost and I have nothing constructive to add so I'll insult the 'Canuck'" - Vertnut
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This is an American forum, by and for Americans. You aren't one, but rather a butthurt, irrelevant Iranian expat who hasn't the balls to stand up with his own countrymen. Have you reconsidered strapping on that vest yet and making something of yourself to someone who cares?

[Cooter]

Seriously... you guys really are sore losers. Threads wishing death upon an American President elect? Really?

And Mustangman, if you're seriously ashamed of your country, I hear Kenya's nice. Get there.

where are the threads wishing death upon an American President elect? :confused:

[bullet]

This election only proved that hope is stronger than fear.

[Mustangman_2000]

This election only proved that ignorance is more pervasive than reason.

Fixed.

[Vertnut]

This election only proved that hope is stronger than fear.
It also proves that the majority isn't always right.

[Mr Majestyk]

^^^^^
Applause

[bjtheman1]

I wasn't a big fan of Mccain, but neither Obama as well. I like some ideas, and beliefs they each had.
Only time will tell if Obama will be the right choice or not, I hope so for our countries sake.

[SuperWho?]

It also proves that the majority isn't always right.
no, 2004 did that, because in 2000, the majority lost out to Florida.

[STANGGT40]

the financial crisis killed mccain's chance to win. i believe that most of the voters that would've voted republican but voted for obama in this election did so because they were voting against a republican and not for obama. if you have an election during bad economic times, the opposite party from the one that's in office can say just about anything and people will jump on the bandwagon. in this case, all obama had to say was "change" and tons of people hopped on his side...no substance required.

[Mr Majestyk]

no, 2004 did that, because in 2000, the majority lost out to Florida.

LOL I still remember the humor in Al Gore losing in his home state that year.

[TexasDevilDog]

Congrats Obama.

[Vertnut]

no, 2004 did that, because in 2000, the majority lost out to Florida.
Actually, 1975 proved it. This is Jimmy Carter re-incarnate. The exact same formula, even down to the majorities in congress, the world economic climate, and foreign oil. We all know how that turned out, and the country still didn't learn.

[FSON]

Just because a hundred Frenchmen say it's so, don't make it right. And Buddy, we got us a whole country full of Frenchies.

[Nate]

Jesus christ so far today I've heard

"My life is going to change today!"

"This is the greatest day of my life..." (this girl is married and has a newborn....)

"We now will get what we deserve"

[Big Thumper]

The thing that gets me, out of all the Obama supporters, I only saw maybe 2 that could tell me why they were voting for him....his policies, etc... Most could only tell you, it was time for a change....

[Nate]

The thing that gets me, out of all the Obama supporters, I only saw maybe 2 that could tell me why they were voting for him....his policies, etc... Most could only tell you, it was time for a change....
You saw 1 more then I did then.

[1fastdem]

You saw 1 more then I did then.


I hope I was the one. Oh, heavens to Betsy, I hope it was me. :)

[Nate]

I hope I was the one. Oh, heavens to Betsy, I hope it was me. :)
LOL you were the one. :p

I'll hope Barry does well and leads this country in the coming 4 years and does not institute all of his policies but takes some bipartisan approach that's best for the country. The world is not over for conservatives just like all "our problems our solved" (not solved) for the people that I work with (like they are crowing about right now).

[Casper]

Actually, 1975 proved it. This is Jimmy Carter re-incarnate. The exact same formula, even down to the majorities in congress, the world economic climate, and foreign oil. We all know how that turned out, and the country still didn't learn.

I think it is more akin to Nixon as far as policy. Its hard to separate the two though.

Winning platform was to end the war and pull the troops back home, and once elected that kind of bogged down while Keynsian wage and price controls and subsidies were enacted, stifling the market.

Carter made it worse with a one-two punch by initiating a grain embargo and not vetoing subsidy increases to farmers and to transportation interests. Carter, actually set the stage for reagan's success by removing many of the market controls and just leaving energy for Reagan to deregulate.

[Vertnut]

I think it is more akin to Nixon as far as policy. Its hard to separate the two though.

Winning platform was to end the war and pull the troops back home, and once elected that kind of bogged down while Keynsian wage and price controls and subsidies were enacted, stifling the market.

Carter made it worse with a one-two punch by initiating a grain embargo and not vetoing subsidy increases to farmers and to transportation interests. Carter, actually set the stage for reagan's success by removing many of the market controls and just leaving energy for Reagan to deregulate.
Actually, his was not my thoughts, but historical guys smarter than me. I just lived it, and remembered it well enough to know we didn't need the same scenario. Carter's military weakness bothered me more as a young man, than his fiscal policy. We were wimps to the world, and I've never gotten over that. My first presidential election was in '80, and I haven't, nor will I, vote for a dem as president. I look at the "person" in local elections, and have voted for a wide range of people regardless of party.

[bullet*proof*GT]

As always you speak the truth.

My 4 year old asked me last night at dinner if I had a good time voting yesterday. I was blessed with a bright little girl who listens closely to me and wants to understand the things I do to the best of her ability. With the pride instilled in me by my grandparents and my parents I proudly answered her YES. She then asked me why I voted and what voting meant. I told her that it is our responsibility in this wonderful country to vote for and try and pick the best people to lead us and make big decisions for all of us. She then asked me if I voted for the best person and if they were going to win. I told her that I made the best decision to vote for the man I believed in to do his best for us. I also told her he may not win, but that it is our job to hold whoever is elected to his promises.

I too like Denny will be praying that Obama will do whatever is in his power to protect our country from harm and make this a better place to live. If not like I told my daughter he has 4 years and if he does not do his job it our duty to replace him with someone who will.


I agree with you. If he doesnt take care of US he wont last .

[black01gt]

The American people voted, and wanted change. Is it my guy? Nope. I don't recall wishing death on anyone. As a matter of fact, I've said I want Barry to live through his term, and do well. Nobody wants him to fail.


Good one Vert. Like it or not we have much more pressing issues to face than licking our wounds and getting sour cause our guy didn't win. I think our understanding of that is imperitive for our survival. Now that he's in it's still up to us to keep President Obama from getting too goofy with his policies. Once we get some "fires" put out I actually look for things to improve for America. The sky will not fall.

[Vertnut]

Good one Vert. Like it or not we have much more pressing issues to face than licking our wounds and getting sour cause our guy didn't win. I think our understanding of that is imperitive for our survival. Now that he's in it's still up to us to keep President Obama from getting too goofy with his policies. Once we get some "fires" put out I actually look for things to improve for America. The sky will not fall.
It's more important to me that we are all Americans, than whether or not my guy wins. Frankly, Bush had the last 4 years (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for the first 4, due to 9/11) to do something, and he didn't. I, like most folks, wanted change. I just felt like McCain was the change we needed... :cool:

[black01gt]

It's more important to me that we are all Americans, than whether or not my guy wins. Frankly, Bush had the last 4 years (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for the first 4, due to 9/11) to do something, and he didn't. I, like most folks, wanted change. I just felt like McCain was the change we needed... :cool:
And I felt like Ron Paul was the change we needed. Didn't happen. Let's get to work with what we've got.
The news said that Obama is keeping Gates on. Decent start...

[regaltip]

Obama has a lot to clean up regardless if it were McCain or him. I just don't feel too secure with Obama getting the job done. It has nothing to do with him being Black! I think McCain would have known how to deal with the Iraq troops and how to end things with Honor. That's the part that chaps me the most is how will Obama deal with Iraq?

I don't care about race and don't care about anything but what that person brings to the table. Obama is only a movement and a bunch of Hype it's not about White or Black it's about the facts that Obama doesn't have the knowledge to get it done!

[gpamp]

And I have a question for you that I know you can't answer. When Michelle Obama said after her husband won the Primary, that this is the first time she's been proud of this country. How did that make you feel? Did you send her a letter recommending that she move to Kenya?
It could possibly be because I understood her meaning, rather than the soundbite. Not to mention, she was excited. And sometimes you just ramble. Sometimes words don't come out the way you intended. Like when McCain said "You know, I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama's supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania lately. And you know, I couldn't agree with them more." I knew what he was trying to say with that. I didn't go posting on a forum... "See?? Look! McCain hates Western Pnnsylvania!!"

Half truths have become the weapon of the Right, and you've fallen prey to them. John Cleese said that if it had been Obama who had been tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp for 2 years, that the Right Wing would have ads that said "He hung out with Communists for TWO YEARS!!". Or the fake ad that SNL did where the McCain campaign goes around & around and end with "Do you want Charles Barkley as President??" based on the fact that Obama played basketball. The American people got tired of half-truth warfare and the guilt-by-association game. Any time you say someone's guilty for being associated with someone, politically, you will probably have an association with that same person (Khalidi), somehow. That, plus Sarah, lost the election last night.

[81redstang]

He's still just black-ish lying bastard he probably won't be able to do as much in office as he thinks he can but still liberal tree hugging hippies and the fornicated media that supports them lie and they played the right media game that's it, now we just have a racist muslium loving POS as president and I'm left praying that the next four years would just be over quickly.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/81redstang/obama-muslim.jpg

[gpamp]

It also proves that the majority isn't always right.
No, the last 8 years proved that pretty well.

[Vertnut]

No, the last 8 years proved that pretty well.
At least we agree on something other than you being queer...

[Technique]

The first term he will be busy cleaning up the biggest mess in history. The second term Obama will define his legacy.

[AL P]

Obama is the best thing that could have happened to the United States, and the WORLD agrees.
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LOL, well I'd hate to disagree with the world. If we did that, before you know it we would avoid another world war or something...

[Casper]

Actually, his was not my thoughts, but historical guys smarter than me. I just lived it, and remembered it well enough to know we didn't need the same scenario. Carter's military weakness bothered me more as a young man, than his fiscal policy. We were wimps to the world, and I've never gotten over that. My first presidential election was in '80, and I haven't, nor will I, vote for a dem as president. I look at the "person" in local elections, and have voted for a wide range of people regardless of party.

That isn't false either, it had a huge effect. I think wage caps on the Military killed any suport Carter had from that end too.

Do you remember how at the time the 55mph speed limit was a huge blot against Carter across the country? And the sound advice that instead of bitching about fuel oil prices the Northeast should learn to dress for the weather? That seems to be forgoten now. Or maybe it was just a phenomenon that I remeber being bigger than it was nationally.

Speaking of wimps to the world, that is very real; that is when China invaded Vietnam, . Mao had died and the new regime was hell bent on expansion. In fact I think Mao's death was a mini october (september actually) surprise working against Ford. After all the big bad commie was dead, we could all hold hands and clean up the planet together. Brezhnev took advantage too and built up the soviet military and invaded afghanistan. The final straw in the wimp label, to me, was the boycott of the olympics.

[AllStockRacer]

I don't really know what to think. I'm sour that my canidate didn't win. I didn't really pay a lot of attention to what Obama was doing or saying. I'm sure that he will do ok. I wish McCain would have won because you can see that the most important thing in his life is his country. Now we have a black president, and I hope that changes some lives by making the blacks do more. I know a lot of the blacks went out to vote just to see a black president win. That is fine, it just proves there are more ignorant people in this country then smart ones. So in my opinion I think that the world is declining on a daily basis. He would have been president regarless if it was this term or the next. I would rather it be this term then the next one because there will be no telling what we will be facing in the next term. A lot of the people that went out and voted this election will not go to the next one because they got what they wanted this time around. Hopefully this doesnt start a trend of unqualified people to run for president just because they know they can get people to vote simply by race. I hope that the economy gets better, and the world leaves us warless while he is in office.





Sorrry for the rant I just woke up.

[Cooter]

where are the threads wishing death upon an American President elect? :confused:

??? :confused: ???

[Muffrazr]

The thing that gets me, out of all the Obama supporters, I only saw maybe 2 that could tell me why they were voting for him....his policies, etc... Most could only tell you, it was time for a change....




You have seen two more than I have during this whole election. In regards to personal debates, not internet pissing matches.

My own father damn near got slapped by me this morning as his own statement almost sent me over the edge. He said, "It's about time America got on board and showed the world that we are past racism." :mad: :eek: :mad: How the fuck does that prove we are past racism? Even the news said it's not about race that we now have our first black president. :rolleyes:

I quickly asked him how this shows anything. Blank stare. :mad:
I asked him if he's ready for more taxes. He said Obama won't be implementing any more taxes than we already have. :rolleyes:
I reminded him that Pelosi wants to raise taxes, our congress is democratically controlled and they want to raise taxes, and Obama has already said who he will raise taxes on..... US!!!!!! and our fucking business!!!!

I'm so distraught this morning over my own father, that I'm just kinda floating around in a daze.

[Skidmark]

The first term he will be busy cleaning up the biggest mess in history. The second term Obama will define his legacy.

Where did all these Canadians come from?

[STANGGT40]

??? :confused: ???

he must be talking about this thread:

http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=375330

post #3 is the first one that i saw, but i didn't read any further.

[Denny]

The first term he will be busy cleaning up the biggest mess in history. The second term Obama will define his legacy.
We're FAR from the biggest mess in our history. :rolleyes:

[Sean88gt]

You have seen two more than I have during this whole election. In regards to personal debates, not internet pissing matches.

My own father damn near got slapped by me this morning as his own statement almost sent me over the edge. He said, "It's about time America got on board and showed the world that we are past racism." :mad: :eek: :mad: How the fuck does that prove we are past racism? Even the news said it's not about race that we now have our first black president. :rolleyes:

I quickly asked him how this shows anything. Blank stare. :mad:
I asked him if he's ready for more taxes. He said Obama won't be implementing any more taxes than we already have. :rolleyes:
I reminded him that Pelosi wants to raise taxes, our congress is democratically controlled and they want to raise taxes, and Obama has already said who he will raise taxes on..... US!!!!!! and our fucking business!!!!

I'm so distraught this morning over my own father, that I'm just kinda floating around in a daze.
Is that why you called me at the fucking crack of dawn?

[whiteboy]

Seriously... you guys really are sore losers. Threads wishing death upon an American President elect? Really?

And Mustangman, if you're seriously ashamed of your country, I hear Kenya's nice. Get there.

Muslims lick balls.

[Denny]

Muslims lick balls.
Pics or it didn't happen!!!


(hopefully no pics)

[Casper]

Where did all these Canadians come from?

AHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAA!

At least I think you hid the joke I saw.

[Muffrazr]

Is that why you called me at the fucking crack of dawn?


YEah, pretty much. Also wondering if you made it out of the fetal position.

[mustangguy289]

You republicans are a bunch of sore losers and never have anything positive to say about anything on the other side of the fence.
what positive things have you said about the Bush administration. It goes both ways man.

[Justa4banger]

Hey the Dem's have the house , senate and President........... Good for them.............. its also good for the Repub's also.......... SO If the shit goes crazy and the country goes to shit "faster" then atleast the Dem's can't blame the Repub's for causing the problems.....

One thing i know for sure. Had Obama been a White man with the SAME creditials, MCcain would have won. Obama won over the minorities that have never voted before. Hey good for him, he was able to do something no party has been able to do before. Did they vote using their head???? NO.

I do hope he can make some good change and i sure as hell don't want to see him killed. Right now is the Dem's chance to prove that they can actually do some good. So lets see it.

[FSON]

Hey I do hope he can make some good change and i sure as hell don't want to see him killed. Right now is the Dem's chance to prove that they can actually do some good. So lets see it.
What kind of good change can O'Bomba do, increase your taxes and further stifle the economy?

[wesman]

Jesus christ so far today I've heard

"My life is going to change today!"

"This is the greatest day of my life..." (this girl is married and has a newborn....)

"We now will get what we deserve"

Shall I guess the ethnicity of these people ? or is it pretty obvious ??? :rolleyes:

--wes

[Mustangman_2000]

It could possibly be because I understood her meaning, rather than the soundbite. Not to mention, she was excited. And sometimes you just ramble. Sometimes words don't come out the way you intended. Like when McCain said "You know, I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama's supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania lately. And you know, I couldn't agree with them more." I knew what he was trying to say with that. I didn't go posting on a forum... "See?? Look! McCain hates Western Pnnsylvania!!"

Half truths have become the weapon of the Right, and you've fallen prey to them. J.

You know, Greg. I don't think you realize that I've voted for the Democratic ticket since Clinton. This was my first time voting for a Republican candidate for President.

I didn't fall prey to anything. I feel like it was the Obama supporters that fell prey to his change propaganda. Jimmy Carter '76. Great success. :rolleyes: As a centrist Democrat, I cannot reach that far across the aisle to find common ground with Obama. I question his dubious affiliations and I question his policy.

You can argue semantics regarding Michelle's comment, but I'm pretty sure she meant what she said. It wasn't a slip of the tongue like the McCain statement you quoted. From a woman who embodies Public Allies, I believe she is being truthful when only feeling a sense of pride until a black man was successful in the race for POTUS.

You make remarks to me like I'm some gun toting zealot. Prior to two weeks ago my voting record is blue my friend. Obama is not my kind of Democrat. Obama was voted the most liberal in U.S. Senate in 2007. I can't identify with that. It's too far to the left. If he was more centered on policy, such as Bill Clinton, then this would be a different story. You may feel comfortable with a bleeding heart anything goes attitude, but I'm not comfortable with it. I still have one leg stuck in the past of old school politics. It's always been a dirty business, but the policy wasn't always careening on the outer fringes.

I'll even go as far to say that if you erase all of the Bill Ayers, J. Wright, ACORN, etc..then I might have voted for him out of allegiance to my party. However, the guy is just too shady dude. I'm sure you think it's all a right wing conspiracy to create and embellish these affiliations, but they are true. Obama always seems to find himself in leftist/radical circles and when he realized they were damaging to his campaign, he severed ties. Sorry you can't see that or acknowledge it. It's moot anyway. Your boy won. I think it was a epic mistake, but we'll see.

Get ready for a torrent of leftist agenda legislation to slide through Congress unabated. A wealth redistribution tax plan is a socialist doctrine. We had a Congress with the worse approval rating in history and we just gave them more seats. This is not cool. This is erosion.

[Nate]

Shall I guess the ethnicity of these people ? or is it pretty obvious ??? :rolleyes:

--wesFeel free...tell steph to hurry the fuck back up to Stream....lol.

[Magnus]

"Bla bla bla, I'm butthurt because McCain lost and I have nothing constructive to add so I'll insult the 'Canuck'" - Vertnut
SS
Stupid Shit?

[Sean88gt]

YEah, pretty much. Also wondering if you made it out of the fetal position.
Finally.

When they announced Obama as President I was like Brad Pitt in Se7en when he found out what was in the box.

[gpamp]

MM2000, I know you voted Dem. in the past. I've always known that. But you became a mouthpiece on this site, for all the tactics of politicking that John McCain threw out. That's what I was referring to when I said you "fell prey".

[exlude]

MM2000, I know you voted Dem. in the past. I've always known that. But you became a mouthpiece on this site, for all the tactics of politicking that John McCain threw out. That's what I was referring to when I said you "fell prey".

I find that claim particularly funny from an Obama voter.

[Magnus]

I find that claim particularly funny from an Obama voter.
QFT!

At least roughly half of the country isn't retarded. . . . yet.

[GT Dan]

MM2000, I know you voted Dem. in the past. I've always known that. But you became a mouthpiece on this site, for all the tactics of politicking that John McCain threw out. That's what I was referring to when I said you "fell prey".

I've got news for you, I've known him longer than he's been on this board and he isn't a mouthpiece for anyone. He has no problem expressing his opinion, regardless of anyone agreeing or disagreeing with him...

He gives his opinions based on the facts, not emotion... you could learn a lot from him...

[81redstang]

NO NO not only do Muslims lick balls Obama tickles the taint

[SS Junk]

We're FAR from the biggest mess in our history. :rolleyes:
Couldn't agree more. This is childs play compared to what will happen.

[SUX2BU]

Republicans didn't lose. The US lost... and ultimately the world loses.
I don't think the world agrees with you.

[The Punisher]

Seriously... you guys really are sore losers. Threads wishing death upon an American President elect? Really?

And Mustangman, if you're seriously ashamed of your country, I hear Kenya's nice. Get there.
do you personally know Obama? Do you know the real content of his character? How do you know he is the best man? What experience of his are you making that statement from?

[flashstang04]

I don't think the world agrees with you.


The world does in fact know this..that is why they are celebrating. The USA will not be a dominant superpower when Obama is finished..they are loving this.

[The Punisher]

I don't think the world agrees with you.
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[SUX2BU]

do you personally know Obama? Do you know the real content of his character? How do you know he is the best man? What experience of his are you making that statement from?
Could it be maybe it's his.....dare i say it...... opinion. :eek:

[Vertnut]

Could it be maybe it's his.....dare i say it...... opinion. :eek:
I guess it proves any dumbshit can drive an Escalade... :rolleyes: If you're going to debate, have a purpose.

[Boost Addict]

I don't think the world agrees with you.

Why is that?

[SUX2BU]

Why is that?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/nationworld/ats-bc-uselections-worldview4thld-writethrunov05,0,3799000.story
http://www.theworldwantsobama.org/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27542176/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_bi_ge/us_elections_world_view
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4995217&page=1

[81redstang]

Fuck Obama and all he stands for, as if us "Typical" white people haven't had to deal with enough pure hate and discrimination from Obama's people, from being blamed for all that is wrong with thier lifes and expected to feel bad for what happened over 200 years ago, I'm sorry but I don't. So be pissed off that YOUR PEOPLE sold your ancestors into slavery, be GLAD that your not anymore and do something other than make a million shitty songs a year.

I mean seriously you look in the dictonary next to Dumbass and there is a picture of your people, yes all of them.

I'm just tired of hearing them bitch, and honestly one of the main reasons they are crying is that Obama wants to increase welfare, since that is their peoples main source of income how could they not have voted.

In surmation FUCK Obama and all he stands for.
Now our country is truly fornicated.

[71chevellejohn]

??? :confused: ???


x2

[81redstang]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree with you, and it makes more sense they are more real than the stupid yagga ala-la.

[JMAC]

He's still just black-ish lying bastard he probably won't be able to do as much in office ..... now we just have a racist muslium loving POS as president and I'm left praying that the next four years would just be over quickly.
Pot meet kettle....

[81redstang]

yeah i'm neither black nor made of a mineral so define your "pot meet kettle" scenerio in more detail please, and Go Cowboys!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/81redstang/pot-kettle-black.jpg

[Jarhead93]

Muslims lick balls.
like i care..but fyi
http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/announcement.php?f=45

[81redstang]

How is that a racial slur? since it is descriptive and not a prerecognized racial slur then I don't see an issue with it.

[bcoop]

yeah i'm neither black nor made of a mineral so define your "pot meet kettle" scenerio in more detail please, and Go Cowboys!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/81redstang/pot-kettle-black.jpg



He was probably referring to you calling him 'black-ish' and then calling him a racist in the very same breath. You using that phrase, is deemed racist by some.

[Mr Majestyk]

The future of our country looks dark. If that's considered a racist statement by moronic Obama sheeple, tough shit. It so happens to be merely a statement of the truth.

[SUX2BU]

LOLz at all you racist bigot E-thugs. Like anyone of you would ever walk up to a muslim and say he licks balls or something. :rolleyes:

[Mr Majestyk]

Like you would ever walk up to anyone and say to their face that they are a racist. Go back up your ass where you belong.

[Denny]

LOLz at all you racist bigot E-thugs. Like anyone of you would ever walk up to a muslim and say he licks balls or something. :rolleyes:
I've said worse to a Muslim's face. Not because he was a Muslim either.

[SUX2BU]

Like you would ever walk up to anyone and say to their face that they are a racist. Go back up your ass where you belong.
If you said racist things to me i would call you out on it.

[SUX2BU]

I've said worse to a Muslim's face. Not because he was a Muslim either.
Wow thats kool. I'm sure everyone has gotten in someones face before in their lives.
You know what i meant.

[Mr Majestyk]

If you said racist things to me i would call you out on it.

I don't have the need to say "racist things", given that I have the intelligence necessary to say what needs to be said by normal means. For example, calling you stupid, a dumb fuck, etc, gets the point across quite adequately in simple terms you can understand, all without any racial slurs.

[Mustangman_2000]

LOLz at all you racist bigot E-thugs. Like anyone of you would ever walk up to a muslim and say he licks balls or something. :rolleyes:

Let me promise you this one thing. Not everybody is a paper tiger. ;)

[BreedLove]

We're FAR from the biggest mess in our history. :rolleyes:
why are all these people from toronto here?

[Denny]

why are all these people from toronto here?
They're in Canada and this is an "out." Can you blame them?

[Hmbre97]

The world does in fact know this..that is why they are celebrating. The USA will not be a dominant superpower when Obama is finished..they are loving this.

Sad, but true.

[SUX2BU]

Let me promise you this one thing. Not everybody is a paper tiger. ;)
Let me promise YOU one thing. All the ducks don't quack at the same time.

[Technique]

Sorry skidmark if you have an issue with my being Canadian and visiting this site. I am a fellow mustang enthusiast who really enjoys what this forum has to offer. I have learned a lot from some of this sites members and have enjoyed taking part in some discussions. I offered my opinion and it apparently diifers from yours. I don't see the problem. I also lived in the U.S. for approx. 7 years. Many friends and good times. Why do you have a problem with Canadians posting here? I usually welcome other worldly perspectives on different topics. Thats what the journey of life is all about.

[Denny]

Let me promise YOU one thing. All the ducks don't quack at the same time.
And let ME promise YOU something...

Red jump square letter pillow up cow.

[Denny]

Sorry skidmark if you have an issue with my being Canadian and visiting this site. I am a fellow mustang enthusiast who really enjoys what this forum has to offer. I have learned a lot from some of this sites members and have enjoyed taking part in some discussions. I offered my opinion and it apparently diifers from yours. I don't see the problem. I also lived in the U.S. for approx. 7 years. Many friends and good times. Why do you have a problem with Canadians posting here? I usually welcome other worldly perspectives on different topics. Thats what the journey of life is all about.
Our past Canadian posters did a lot of shitting on America, that's all.

[Technique]

Well Denny, I am a human being who has opinions and luckily the freedom of speech. Like I said I lived in the United States for a few years. Your country offered me a college education and I am eternally grateful. During that time I met people who were very different than me. They dressed different, spoke different and had different worldly opinions than me. Those years taught me more about myself because I was exposed to a different cultural view. I even thought different about my own country as a result. Some good some bad. Kinda like life. I'm sorry some Canucks have posted here in the past in a way that offended you. I lived in Atlanta when 9/11 occured. Had a few friends leave who were in the army. I even inquired about joining as a Canadian to be a part of the U.S. forces. I have never even fired a gun let alone be involved in combat. But I assure you, I did not think of myself as a Canadian or an American. I just wanted to bring the people responsible for the attack on America to justice and stand up for the country that had offered me so much. I realize this is a Texas based site. I realize George W. Bush is favored. I just don't think he made the right decisions. Granted who the hell would want to be in his position. I don't know what I would have done. I might have done the same. I love being Canadian. I love thinking about my times in the United States. I think Obama will do great things. I think the country will prosper. I think sunny skies will once again shine down upon all of you and I am grateful. Because to see the U.S. endure the struggles it has during the past eight years has been difficult for me. Sometimes change is good. I hope so in this case. Peace and friendship.

[Casper]

And let ME promise YOU something...

Red jump square letter pillow up cow.

I thought it was beef? Maybe things have changed.

[Casper]

... I think sunny skies will once again shine down upon all of you and I am grateful....

See, all the hugs and fellowship talk are fine, I'm sure most here feel the same about you, but where do you get the idea that sunny skies have not been shining down on us already?

I know business owners on here who have expanded and corporate people on here who have prospered very well over the last 10 years. There are others who have skills and trade jobs that have done quite well. Veterans who feel they have made a difference and feel the satisfaction of representing their country. People have raised families, gotten educations, become involved in the world instead of watching it pass by, and overall I think their journeys have been fairly succesful, in spite of a few who have lost bullshit jobs selling rolling papers and shit, but overall they have continued an upwards journey.

In spite of all your peace and love talk you are still talking down your nose to a lot of people when you tell them their situation can "finally, at long last, improve". That is insulting, as if we have not been able to improve our situation and prosper as it is.

[FSON]

Obama will improve our already prosperous condition.

[Skidmark]

You know what would have changed the outcome of this election? Mandatory drug testing for all voters.

Cleary someone on drugs is not able to make an educated decision. :)

[Technique]

Again your opinion skidmark and you are entitled to it. As far as talking down my nose at you or others, not sure how I implied that. I am speaking about record numbers of families who have lost their homes, cost of living becoming out of reach and lower income families who do what they can to get by while staying off social assistance. America as a whole prospering better. Not just the business owners and or corporate sector. The United States is trillions in debt and there are parts of the world that have leverage against you. If this brings about conflict Canada is usually involved in a support role for you. Our economics are linked with one another. So as far as peace and love talk goes, give me peace over conflict any day.

[Casper]

Again your opinion skidmark and you are entitled to it. As far as talking down my nose at you or others, not sure how I implied that. I am speaking about record numbers of families who have lost their homes, cost of living becoming out of reach and lower income families who do what they can to get by while staying off social assistance. America as a whole prospering better. Not just the business owners and or corporate sector. The United States is trillions in debt and there are parts of the world that have leverage against you. If this brings about conflict Canada is usually involved in a support role for you. Our economics are linked with one another. So as far as peace and love talk goes, give me peace over conflict any day.

You just don't get it. The people here have been, in general, prosperous throughout their lives, whether because of or in spite of the situations confronting them. Why would they see a campaign platform that punishes them for that prosperity as a ray of sunshine? We'll take any break we can get, that is a trait of a survivor. But another trait is to see in advance when opportunity looks like its drying up and the future is looking mighty arid. All this nonsense about failure is a product of yellow journalism; the fact that so many pure losers have been able to prosper this long is a good example of how easy we have had it for the last 50 years.

Maybe you can explain why you think obama farts in musical notes and how his advertised policies are going to make it better for me? I've spent the last 40-odd years working my way into a position where I can be lazy and comfortable, and yet all I see on the horizon is a future where even my kids are jealous of what I had to work with.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

Where was Canada during the 9-11 attacks? Probably the same place France was...having a party. :rolleyes:

[81redstang]

Well he is not fully white and he's not fully black but he is all Ghetto-Fab in a Carelton sort of way, I mean what should I call him? I just truly hate the fact that him as a person is going to be in office, that blows like an Escalade at the track.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/81redstang/omega_hypnotic_cadillac_escalade_2.jpg

[Technique]

Where was Canada you ask Torquetwister? Ummmm do some research. We have lost a hundred soldiers in this conflict with Iraq and Afghanastan in a support role for the United States. Canadian lives were also lost in the Twin towers. And our airports and hotels were full of American citizens who could not get home because the airspace was closed. My youngest son also American.

I understand that some have prospered in these times. In Canada we have a number of social assistance programs that are funded by the tax payer. What I mean when I say a better overall prosperity is the fewer people who rely on these programs as a way of life will relieve pressure placed on the prosperous ones in a social government. Obama pledges to help the lower and middle class. The more people who are middle class will make it better for everyone in your country. Do I wish I was taxed less in Canada, of course. But the amount I give up helps everyone do a little better. As a member of society it is my opinion that everyone is in it together. If my neighbor cares for his house my house is worth more. That kind of idea.

[81redstang]

yeah but here in America certain people represented by certain races want everything for free and feel they are owed it because of the past,and honestly have you seen most of thier houses, total shit, they single handedly destroyed not only the resale value but the community spirit itself, real estate agents call us leaving White flight and for any one to deny that it exists would only speak to thier own ignorance. Socialism won't work here Canada boy, we have a very different world over here go spend a week in harlem and you will see things are still very black and white, and that is mainly the blacks choosing.

[SUX2BU]

yeah but here in America certain people represented by certain races want everything for free and feel they are owed it because of the past,and honestly have you seen most of thier houses, total shit, they single handedly destroyed not only the resale value but the community spirit itself, real estate agents call us leaving White flight and for any one to deny that it exists would only speak to thier own ignorance. Socialism won't work here Canada boy, we have a very different world over here go spend a week in harlem and you will see things are still very black and white, and that is mainly the blacks choosing.
I voted for Obama mainly because of healthcare. It's a joke in this country and i think it should be gov funded. healthcare should be a right not a privilege, just like the fire department, police, ect. There are too many hard working people that can't afford healthcare in this country and it's a damn embarrasment.
I completly understand the repub's not wanting to give out hand outs. I hate mooches on society too, but i know alot of these programs are needed. I wouldn't mind an agency being formed to investigate the legitamcy of cases where government help is issued. Mandatory drug tests and what not if you want to recieve gov help.
Oh and also a tax credit for the fewer children you have not the more. You should be rewarded for not throwing more work at the gov, not penalized.

[Chopped54]

I voted for Obama mainly because of healthcare. It's a joke in this country and i think it should be gov funded. healthcare should be a right not a privilege, just like the fire department, police, ect. There are too many hard working people that can't afford healthcare in this country and it's a damn embarrasment.
I completly understand the repub's not wanting to give out hand outs. I hate mooches on society too, but i know alot of these programs are needed. I wouldn't mind an agency being formed to investigate the legitamcy of cases where government help is issued. Mandatory drug tests and what not if you want to recieve gov help.
Oh and also a tax credit for the fewer children you have not the more. You should be rewarded for not throwing more work at the gov, not penalized.

I worked with 3 different persons who came to America from social healthcare countries, and they said that Healthcare was one of the reasons they moved to America. Socialized healthcare sucks! We have a form of it now called Parkland. What needs to happen is the county hospitals need to be regulated more.

[FSON]

You know what would have changed the outcome of this election? Mandatory drug testing for all contestants.

Cleary someone on drugs is not able to make an educated decision. :)
fixed

[Nate]

Geez...the text I just got.

What do JFK and Obama have in common?

[Mr Majestyk]

I voted for Obama mainly because of healthcare. It's a joke in this country and i think it should be gov funded. healthcare should be a right not a privilege, just like the fire department, police, ect. There are too many hard working people that can't afford healthcare in this country and it's a damn embarrasment.
I completly understand the repub's not wanting to give out hand outs. I hate mooches on society too, but i know alot of these programs are needed. I wouldn't mind an agency being formed to investigate the legitamcy of cases where government help is issued. Mandatory drug tests and what not if you want to recieve gov help.
Oh and also a tax credit for the fewer children you have not the more. You should be rewarded for not throwing more work at the gov, not penalized.

Good post except for the health care part. The reason the quality of our health care is second to none is that the government stays out of it, except for Medicare and the VA, and we know what debacles those can be in many instances. The government should maybe provide asistance to those who can not afford it through no fault of their own, but should not run the health care system itself.

[Skidmark]

Where was Canada you ask Torquetwister? Ummmm do some research. We have lost a hundred soldiers in this conflict with Iraq and Afghanastan in a support role for the United States. Canadian lives were also lost in the Twin towers. And our airports and hotels were full of American citizens who could not get home because the airspace was closed. My youngest son also American.

I understand that some have prospered in these times. In Canada we have a number of social assistance programs that are funded by the tax payer. What I mean when I say a better overall prosperity is the fewer people who rely on these programs as a way of life will relieve pressure placed on the prosperous ones in a social government. Obama pledges to help the lower and middle class. The more people who are middle class will make it better for everyone in your country. Do I wish I was taxed less in Canada, of course. But the amount I give up helps everyone do a little better. As a member of society it is my opinion that everyone is in it together. If my neighbor cares for his house my house is worth more. That kind of idea.

Maybe we're all a little greedy over here, or just tired of the leaches of society. I do not want to have money taken away every check from me to provide for others who are fully capable of working, but do not.

[Casper]

Maybe we're all a little greedy over here, or just tired of the leaches of society. I do not want to have money taken away every check from me to provide for others who are fully capable of working, but do not.

Like AIG executives, LOL!

[Skidmark]

Like AIG executives, LOL!

I want to go on a 400k vacation. :mad:

[flashstang04]

You just don't get it. The people here have been, in general, prosperous throughout their lives, whether because of or in spite of the situations confronting them. Why would they see a campaign platform that punishes them for that prosperity as a ray of sunshine? We'll take any break we can get, that is a trait of a survivor. But another trait is to see in advance when opportunity looks like its drying up and the future is looking mighty arid. All this nonsense about failure is a product of yellow journalism; the fact that so many pure losers have been able to prosper this long is a good example of how easy we have had it for the last 50 years.

Maybe you can explain why you think obama farts in musical notes and how his advertised policies are going to make it better for me? I've spent the last 40-odd years working my way into a position where I can be lazy and comfortable, and yet all I see on the horizon is a future where even my kids are jealous of what I had to work with.


Qft

[SUX2BU]

Good post except for the health care part. The reason the quality of our health care is second to none is that the government stays out of it, except for Medicare and the VA, and we know what debacles those can be in many instances. The government should maybe provide asistance to those who can not afford it through no fault of their own, but should not run the health care system itself.
No offense but you shoould look into our health stats compared to other counrties. We are the sickest counrty in the world and spend the most money. Insurance companies are the devil. If they were a non profit organization that you paid dues so in the event you had major medical expenses you were covered it would be awsome. But ins companies are more interested in making $$ that your health.
Cops don't ask you for anything when you call cause someone broke into your house. they just go. The fire department doesn't verify anything if you call and say your house is on fire. Doctors should be the same way. if your sick or hurt you shouldn't have to worry if you can afford to go to the doctor. you should just go.
I'm not the kind to get into political debates much, i see no point. Thats why it's easier to just poke fun at it.

[Mr Majestyk]

You can just go. That's why Tarrant County has JPS and Dallas County has Parkland.

[STANGGT40]

Cops don't ask you for anything when you call cause someone broke into your house. they just go. The fire department doesn't verify anything if you call and say your house is on fire. Doctors should be the same way. if your sick or hurt you shouldn't have to worry if you can afford to go to the doctor. you should just go.
I'm not the kind to get into political debates much, i see no point. Thats why it's easier to just poke fun at it.

the reason that doctors ask for health insurance is because they have bills to pay and if they don't get paid, they go out of business.

[Weslie]

Good post except for the health care part. The reason the quality of our health care is second to none is that the government stays out of it, except for Medicare and the VA, and we know what debacles those can be in many instances. The government should maybe provide asistance to those who can not afford it through no fault of their own, but should not run the health care system itself.The health care debate is a tough one because I've seen it and lived it to know firsthand how hardworking people get screwed on both ends. I do not think we should have socialized health care, nor do I think the government should back out 100% and leave health care alone.

A perfect example is somebody who owns a small business (less than 5 employees) and struggles to make ends meet - not because they don't work hard, but because they're just going through a rough time. Since the company doesn't have enough employees, they cannot get decent rates on a group health plan. But let's say the employees are willing to pay the extra 20% for being part of a small group plan, they still have to have 70% of their employees sign up for it. That means that if only 3 people at that company want insurance coverage, the company is screwed and isn't allowed to have the group plan. Now those employees have to get individual insurance policies. But guess what, individual policies can be denied due to medical history, or at the very least will cost a fortune. You can forget it if you have even the smallest blemish in your past (i.e. I can't get an individual policy on my kids because my daughter had surgery when she was a baby - she's completely fine now, but she's either denied completely or they refuse to cover anything that has to do with her heart for the first 24 months).

While I don't think the government should raise taxes to give every citizen health care, I do like the idea of having a plan that individuals can buy into when they don't have another plan available to them. Is that such a bad idea?

[Casper]

I want to go on a 400k vacation. :mad:

You can just go. That's why Tarrant County has JPS and Dallas County has Parkland.

LOL, this is how I read the thread at first.

But now that you think about it, all these municipal bonds must look good to someone right now.

[Casper]

While I don't think the government should raise taxes to give every citizen health care, I do like the idea of having a plan that individuals can buy into when they don't have another plan available to them. Is that such a bad idea?

Everyone does. The difference now is only one of taxes, after all.

[SUX2BU]

You can just go. That's why Tarrant County has JPS and Dallas County has Parkland.
Yeah and sit for hours and hours while your affliction gets worse.
I've always had insurance and have never had a problem getting service anywhere. I'm just lookin out for all those working poor that have a full time job they work hard at but get paid shit.

[Casper]

Yeah and sit for hours and hours while your affliction gets worse.

I think we call this self-ownage.

Judges?

[SUX2BU]

the reason that doctors ask for health insurance is because they have bills to pay and if they don't get paid, they go out of business.
I'm talking about haveing a gov funded health care system. Where all the gov does is pay for it, not go all into your medical buisiness.

[SUX2BU]

While I don't think the government should raise taxes to give every citizen health care, I do like the idea of having a plan that individuals can buy into when they don't have another plan available to them. Is that such a bad idea?
I would have no problem paying the $2,250 a year (thats just for me and the wife) to the gov for universal healthcare instead of to United healthcare.
I've come to hate my ins company even more this year after they went to some retarded $1,800 partially company funded deductible. It was a hot ass mess having to deal with the ins to get billed correctly after my wife had her gall bladder taken out. :mad:

[67camino]

I'm talking about haveing a gov funded health care system. Where all the gov does is pay for it, not go all into your medical buisiness.
You have got to be the dumbest dipshit on here besides gpamp.
You say we have the worst healthcare in the world yet people come here from all over the world to get it :confused:
You say let the government run/pay for the health care system get real have you ever been to a V.A. Hospital????
BTW you can go into any hospital in this country and get help. ;)
But, by all means keep posting you will prove that you are dumber than gpamp. :D

[Mr Majestyk]

Yeah and sit for hours and hours while your affliction gets worse.
I've always had insurance and have never had a problem getting service anywhere. I'm just lookin out for all those working poor that have a full time job they work hard at but get paid shit.

I would have no problem paying the $2,250 a year (thats just for me and the wife) to the gov for universal healthcare instead of to United healthcare.
I've come to hate my ins company even more this year after they went to some retarded $1,800 partially company funded deductible. It was a hot ass mess having to deal with the ins to get billed correctly after my wife had her gall bladder taken out.

As opposed to waiting months inder socialized medicine for, say, surgery? What would you have rather done, deal with insurance billing issues or had your wife sit on a waiting list for gall bladder surgery? The short-sighted stupidity of the liberal mindset and the sheeple who follow it never fails.

[SUX2BU]

You have got to be the dumbest dipshit on here besides gpamp.
You say we have the worst healthcare in the world yet people come here from all over the world to get it :confused:
You say let the government run/pay for the health care system get real have you ever been to a V.A. Hospital????
BTW you can go into any hospital in this country and get help. ;)
But, by all means keep posting you will prove that you are dumber than gpamp. :D
Quote where i said the worst.
I love talking polotics :rolleyes:
Gonna go back to just posting stupid shit.

[Mr Majestyk]

Quote where i said the worst.
I love talking polotics :rolleyes:
Gonna go back to just posting stupid shit.

Good, stick to things where you have displayed real talent.

[67camino]

No offense but you shoould look into our health stats compared to other counrties. We are the sickest counrty in the world and spend the most money. Insurance companies are the devil. If they were a non profit organization easier to just poke fun at it.
Well if we are the sickest country in the world the we must have the worlds worst healtcare system? :eek:

[SUX2BU]

All hail the conservatives for they can never be wrong! Woo hoo! Liberals are always wrong, too bad the majority of the country agrees with them.

[67camino]

Glad you agree :D

[Boost Addict]

I voted for Obama mainly because of healthcare. It's a joke in this country and i think it should be gov funded. healthcare should be a right not a privilege, just like the fire department, police, ect. There are too many hard working people that can't afford healthcare in this country and it's a damn embarrasment.
I completly understand the repub's not wanting to give out hand outs. I hate mooches on society too, but i know alot of these programs are needed. I wouldn't mind an agency being formed to investigate the legitamcy of cases where government help is issued. Mandatory drug tests and what not if you want to recieve gov help.
Oh and also a tax credit for the fewer children you have not the more. You should be rewarded for not throwing more work at the gov, not penalized.


The constitution says "promote the general welfare". Not "provide welfare and healthcare for every tom, dick, and gonzalez that comes across the border".

You know, I think everyone needs a car, too. The gubment should just provide that, too. Cars for everyone.

Come to think of it, everyone needs a vacation as well. 2 weeks gubment payed vacation for everyone.

Where does it end? The government owes us nothing more than what's in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I think they go plenty far enough in spelling out what the government can't do to you. As for everything else, it's your responsibility to go out and EARN IT!

<--- Thinks that wastes of space that want the government to do everything for them should just go to Canada or Mexico. Leave and let us have our country back.

[Casper]

The constitution says "promote the general welfare". Not "provide welfare and healthcare for every tom, dick, and gonzalez that comes across the border".

You know, I think everyone needs a car, too. The gubment should just provide that, too. Cars for everyone.

Come to think of it, everyone needs a vacation as well. 2 weeks gubment payed vacation for everyone.

Where does it end? The government owes us nothing more than what's in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I think they go plenty far enough in spelling out what the government can't do to you. As for everything else, it's your responsibility to go out and EARN IT!

<--- Thinks that wastes of space that want the government to do everything for them should just go to Canada or Mexico. Leave and let us have our country back.


So can we put you down as a Ron Paul supporter? hehe.

[Boost Addict]

So can we put you down as a Ron Paul supporter? hehe.

I don't know that I really support anybody right now. But Ron Paul probably comes the closest.

The Republican party needs to pull back, regroup, get back to their basic conservative principles and present a clear distinction to the democratic party for the '10 elections.

There was too little distinction clarified between McCain and Obama. McCain was the better choice but he was by no means a true conservative.

The problem is that I think everyone at heart is a conservative. Think about it, what part of the conservative philosophy doesn't work in every household (or at least households that we want to build America out of):

1. Keep more of your hard earned money. This works in white families, black families, mexican families...across the board.

2. Basic freedoms entitled by the Consititution and Bill of Rights. If you don't value those freedoms, you shouldn't be here in the first place...you'd be in Europe, Russia or China. There is no inbetween...these documents are quite clear.

3. The right to pursue happiness...not be provided happiness, the right to pursue it. If you don't want to pursue it, work hard to get it, earn it and keep it...go to Europe, Russia or China and have the government provide them for you. If you want to have it handed to you through welfare, please don't let the door hit you in your worthless a$$ on the way out.

4. The right to free speech. Who doesn't want to be able to speak, unabridged, and with no interference? If you don't want to hear or read what I say then don't listen or read it. It's that simple. Democrats want to bring back the fairness doctrine...what's after that? The Gustapo coming to your door because someone turned you in for speaking out against the president? What household wants that?

Shall I go on? haha :)

[Casper]

Shall I go on? haha :)

If you enjoy preaching to the choir ;)

[Boost Addict]

If you enjoy preaching to the choir ;)

Is it still considered preaching when we're just showing the truth to the blind? Or are we educating the learning disabled? Or are we redirecting the herd? Maybe we're leading the lemmings away from the cliff?


Eh! Who am I kidding? You can't cure stupid. The next 4 years will learn 'em! :eek:

[Casper]

Is it still considered preaching when we're just showing the truth to the blind? Or are we educating the learning disabled? Or are we redirecting the herd? Maybe we're leading the lemmings away from the cliff?


Eh! Who am I kidding? You can't cure stupid. The next 4 years will learn 'em! :eek:

you know what I mean. You can't cure stupid but you can treat it with harsh doses of reality. Which is probably why all the 70s nuthanger idealists that are still around are either now working for the man or have never really worked. Or both.

[Boost Addict]

you know what I mean. You can't cure stupid but you can treat it with harsh doses of reality. Which is probably why all the 70s nuthanger idealists that are still around are either now working for the man or have never really worked. Or both.


Agreed. The thing is, they think their idealism is unrealized and has never been on display...however, it's been on display in Europe. Failed. Canada through socialized medicine. Failed. Hawaii through socialized medicine. Failed.