This will be my last post in the Political Forum

[Monsoon X]

..........for about 3 weeks. I'll be too busy readin your comments and LMAO

I'm speechless right now. Utterly.

Good night.

[Denny]

Nice...

[Got5onIt]

74% of the general U.S population is White.
Obama won by a fucking land slide. This country has come along way. A LONG WAY. We're in uncharted water folks. Buckle your seat belts.

[Mustangman_2000]

I'm glad you're laughing.

We've got an inexperienced radical left liberal Democrat, with a shady past, declared President of the most power country in the free world.

You know....I really think you are a sick person. I think you take joy in argument itself more than that actual topic. Your smugness was funny at first, but now you are just revealing your lack of tact.

95% of blacks in this country voted for this man simply because he is black. No time in the history of the voting process has any candidate had 95% of the vote by the same ethnicity. I don't care if this comes across as racist, but all of those people are a total and complete joke. Idiots. Blind leading the blind.

You've got your messiah. And you can have him. And 4 years from now when everybody's lives are exactly the same as they are now, I guess I'll be the one who is laughing.

Glad to hear you are taking a break. Don't hurry back.

[mikeb]

Sorry you are speechless, and sorry you are done with the political forum Jonathan.

It is true that the country has taken a hard veer to the left with obama. Many of us voted against it, but many more voted for it.

The country will get what it deserves. In spades.

[sc281_99-0135]

Sorry you are speechless, and sorry you are done with the political forum Jonathan.

It is true that the country has taken a hard veer to the left with obama. Many of us voted against it, but many more voted for it.

The country will get what it deserves. In spades.

pun?

[Bounty Hunter]

Did anyone else notice the panels of bulletproof glass around Obama's acceptance speech stage? What's up with all that...

[Skidmark]

Did anyone else notice the panels of bulletproof glass around Obama's acceptance speech stage? What's up with all that...

Saw that too and was wondering what it was. If it indeed was... the area was charted out for possible sniping location and they placed the barriers to block.

[Got5onIt]

Did anyone else notice the panels of bulletproof glass around Obama's acceptance speech stage? What's up with all that...

They've been reading the DFWstangs board. They know one of you gun totin' rednecks is already plottin' & schemin'. :D :D

[Geor!]

Tell me how that purchase of the new Lexus or BMW or Volvo or whatever other thing your "look at me" ass is coming in two years. Thanks for voting on race, and I hope you get what you have coming to you.

[Got5onIt]

Tell me how that purchase of the new Lexus or BMW or Volvo or whatever other thing your "look at me" ass is coming in two years. Thanks for voting on race, and I hope you get what you have coming to you.

Was this for me? :confused:

'Cuz if it is, sorry to disappoint you, my fair skinned friend. I ain't black.

[Geor!]

Was this for me? :confused:

'Cuz if it is, sorry to disappoint you, my fair skinned friend. I ain't black.
Do you post up every 2-6 months about the new BMW or Lexus you just bought or which one you should get? If not, then no, I was not talking about you. I was specifically referring to the OP. Sorry for the confusion.

[Cobra Commander]

I'm glad you're laughing.

We've got an inexperienced radical left liberal Democrat, with a shady past, declared President of the most power country in the free world.

You know....I really think you are a sick person. I think you take joy in argument itself more than that actual topic. Your smugness was funny at first, but now you are just revealing your lack of tact.

95% of blacks in this country voted for this man simply because he is black. No time in the history of the voting process has any candidate had 95% of the vote by the same ethnicity. I don't care if this comes across as racist, but all of those people are a total and complete joke. Idiots. Blind leading the blind.

You've got your messiah. And you can have him. And 4 years from now when everybody's lives are exactly the same as they are now, I guess I'll be the one who is laughing.

Glad to hear you are taking a break. Don't hurry back.



Half the members on this site and probably the same buddies you and me are "palin' around" with have a shady past.... 95% of Whites have done the very same thing throughout history. Like they always say - You live by the sword... You die by the sword... Don't hate the player... Hate the game...

[AL P]

Half the members on this site and probably the same buddies you and me are "palin' around" with have a shady past.... 95% of Whites have done the very same thing throughout history. Like they always say - You live by the sword... You die by the sword... Don't hate the player... Hate the game...

I've never hung out with a guy involved with a group that bombed a government building, killed two policemen and then said "that wasn't enough". Maybe I am just a square though.

[Skidmark]

I've never hung out with a guy involved with a group that bombed a government building, killed two policemen and then said "that wasn't enough". Maybe I am just a square though.

Sounds like you need new friends... geez get with the times.

[HobieF3]

95% of blacks in this country voted for this man simply because he is black.


So what if they did? Would Ted Kennedy have ever been elected to office if he was Ted Smith? Would George W. Bush have been elected president if his father was Joe the Plumber instead of a former President? Would Schwarzenegger or Reagan become governors of California if they had never been famous actors? Would George Washington been elected our first president if he wasn't a famous war hero?

Americans have been voting politicians into office for reasons that have nothing to do with actual qualifications since the birth of this nation. It's not as if it's a new concept.

[George G.]

95% of blacks in this country voted for this man simply because he is black. No time in the history of the voting process has any candidate had 95% of the vote by the same ethnicity. I don't care if this comes across as racist, but all of those people are a total and complete joke. Idiots. Blind leading the blind.....

Glad to hear you are taking a break. Don't hurry back.

I couldn't have said this better myself!

[thesource]

Did anyone else notice the panels of bulletproof glass around Obama's acceptance speech stage? What's up with all that...

I would imagine a good deal of this presidency will be surrounded by bullet proof glass . The democrats and Obama are not stupid . The shot could come from any direction including their own .

[Andrew]

Tell me how that purchase of the new Lexus or BMW or Volvo or whatever other thing your "look at me" ass is coming in two years. Thanks for voting on race, and I hope you get what you have coming to you.

JC worked hard for what he's got, didn't get handed anything, and can spend it any way he wants. Jealous much?

JC will suffer the same increased tax burden as the rest of the $250k+ income earners. Will you contribute more to our countries tax coffers than he will? Do you think if anyone should complain about it it should be him?

[bcoop]

JC will suffer the same increased tax burden as the rest of the $250k+ income earners.


Scratch that. Apparently you haven't watched the news in two weeks. About two weeks ago, that magical $250k number was dropped to $200k. Then $150k. The most recent I heard reported was $120k.

[Slowhand]

[ ] Awesome story.
[x] Good news.

[Cobra Commander]

I've never hung out with a guy involved with a group that bombed a government building, killed two policemen and then said "that wasn't enough". Maybe I am just a square though.

Yet, you may have hung out with someone who was racist, skin-head, cheater and/or a thief, womanizer, assaulter, etc. I am sure you did an FBI background check on everyone you know. Lets be real we talk about people here on DFWstangs that scam people. You say you never said the N word even in joking. Or been around family, friends, or neighbors that have had those beliefs? If not my friend you have been living in a bubble of love.... I hope none of us corrupt you.

[bcoop]

Yet, you may have hung out with someone who was racist, skin-head, cheater and/or a thief, womanizer, assaulter, etc. I am sure you did an FBI background check on everyone you know. Lets be real we talk about people here on DFWstangs that scam people. You say you never said the N word even in joking. Or been around family, friends, or neighbors that have had those beliefs? If not my friend you have been living in a bubble of love.... I hope none of us corrupt you.



LMFAO at the ignorance of trying to compare befriending a terrorist to ANY other immoral activities. You sir, are one ignorant douche nozzle. Leave it to a fucking Democrat to deflect and deny. After all, if we ignore it, it didn't happen, right? :rolleyes:

[Somewhere in Time]

I'm glad you're laughing.

We've got an inexperienced radical left liberal Democrat, with a shady past, declared President of the most power country in the free world.

You know....I really think you are a sick person. I think you take joy in argument itself more than that actual topic. Your smugness was funny at first, but now you are just revealing your lack of tact.

95% of blacks in this country voted for this man simply because he is black. No time in the history of the voting process has any candidate had 95% of the vote by the same ethnicity. I don't care if this comes across as racist, but all of those people are a total and complete joke. Idiots. Blind leading the blind.

You've got your messiah. And you can have him. And 4 years from now when everybody's lives are exactly the same as they are now, I guess I'll be the one who is laughing.

Glad to hear you are taking a break. Don't hurry back.

Well said man!

[poopnut2]

How about instead of all the assholes trying to find anything wrong with Obama that they possibly can, try and instead find out how we can start making this country a better place to live in? Jesus fucking Christ. Since when did this site become full of sinless saints? Worry about your own shit before attacking someone else. Have your taxes gone up? Has your house been bombed? Did you drive over a fucking IED after Barack won, in once again, a landslide.

For every black person that voted for Obama because he was black, there was a white person who DIDN'T vote for him for that same reason.

[Cobra Commander]

LMFAO at the ignorance of trying to compare befriending a terrorist to ANY other immoral activities. You sir, are one ignorant douche nozzle. Leave it to a fucking Democrat to deflect and deny. After all, if we ignore it, it didn't happen, right? :rolleyes:


If so I'm dipping my douch nozzle in your mouth... So KKK or Skin heads attempting to kill someone is not a terroristic act. I'm amused by the "end of days" talk of a black man becoming president. And how he's going to ruin the country worse than it already is right now. We should not be on here dividing but building this country to be what it used to be. He beat McCain fair and square and beat him not barely, but convincingly. You hate the fact that even with all that B/S about befriending a terrorist when McCain was doing the same thing. Or no one talks of Cindy McCain stealing prescription pain meds from her own charity. WTF! GET over the fact that you can't stand a Black Man being your President.

You know what just like Katt Williams said: "If you ain't got no haters, then you must not be doing something right!" BCoop=HATER!

[Geor!]

JC worked hard for what he's got, didn't get handed anything, and can spend it any way he wants. Jealous much?

JC will suffer the same increased tax burden as the rest of the $250k+ income earners. Will you contribute more to our countries tax coffers than he will? Do you think if anyone should complain about it it should be him?
I have no problem with how he spends his money -- God knows I spend mine in the worst ways possible. It's the fact that he comes on this board and flaunts it. I applaud you for sticking up for your friend but shut the fuck up, please, if you're going to misrepresent my opinion.

[bcoop]

How about instead of all the assholes trying to find anything wrong with Obama that they possibly can, try and instead find out how we can start making this country a better place to live in?

From where I'm sitting, there isn't a whole hell of a lot that can be done to fix this country. Too little, too late type of situation. And no, I'm not basing my comment on Obama being elected. This country has gone to shit, long before this election. McCain would be facing the same type of uphill battle had he been elected.



For every black person that voted for Obama because he was black, there was a white person who DIDN'T vote for him for that same reason.



I find that VERY hard to believe, when you look at the statistics of votes by race.

[Hollywood]

I find that VERY hard to believe, when you look at the statistics of votes by race.


Brent, I have to disagree. If I had a dollar for every white person I heard say "I ain't voting for that nigger" or "that nigger better not win", I could buy another 350z. Alot of people voted for McCain simply because he was white. Its a sensitive issue, but the vast majority of people are pissed off because a black man is going to be president.

[bcoop]

If so I'm dipping my douch nozzle in your mouth...

Actually, no you're not. Is this really all you've got? I call you ignorant, because it's a fact. And you come back with some weak ass shit like this? I bet your cunt mother is proud.


So KKK or Skin heads attempting to kill someone is not a terroristic act.

No, it's not a terrorist act. It's called a hate crime. But, please, humor me. Go find one fucking post where I've condoned someone taking the POTUS out. Please. I'll give you all the time you need.

I'm amused by the "end of days" talk of a black man becoming president. And how he's going to ruin the country worse than it already is right now.

Then why don't you go amuse yourself with the people talking about the 'end of days', because you have me confused with someone else. I've kept out of those threads for a reason. So again, please address those who've been making those comments, as I'm not the one.


We should not be on here dividing but building this country to be what it used to be.

Yeah, because I've got tons of political influence, let me tell you. :rolleyes:


He beat McCain fair and square and beat him not barely, but convincingly.
Once again, please point out where I've said anything different. Am I crying foul? Am I saying he cheated? Nope. Again, address it with someone who made those claims. You're barking up the wrong tree, Corky.


You hate the fact that even with all that B/S about befriending a terrorist when McCain was doing the same thing.

McCain was palling around with terrorists? News to me. Please, post a link from a non leftist news source, and I'll bow out on that comment.


Or no one talks of Cindy McCain stealing prescription pain meds from her own charity.

Quite honestly, I haven't heard of this. Again, post a news source. Otherwise, much like the rest of this ignorant post, what you say has zero merit.


WTF! GET over the fact that you can't stand a Black Man being your President.

Seriously? Please humor me again, and point out where I've made one negative comment about a black man being the President Elect. Why are YOU trying to make this about race with me? Did you see me in all the other threads calling him a ____? No, you didn't. Why don't you take it up with the people who have, instead of wasting your time with someone who has said nothing of the sort?


You know what just like Katt Williams said: "If you ain't got no haters, then you must not be doing something right!" BCoop=HATER!


If you get your words of wisdom and words to live by from Kat Williams, well.... That explains everything.

[Geor!]

Brent, I have to disagree. If I had a dollar for every white person I heard say "I ain't voting for that nigger" or "that nigger better not win", I could buy another 350z. Alot of people voted for McCain simply because he was white. Its a sensitive issue, but the vast majority of people are pissed off because a black man is going to be president.
Stephen, I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree after seeing the exit poll numbers last night. Let's see if I can't pull them up...

Edit: Nevermind, we're talking about person for person, not percentages. So yeah, I'll agree with Josh that for person to person, there were probably just as many whites voting on race as blacks. Percentage wise? No fucking way.

[Miss D]

How about instead of all the assholes trying to find anything wrong with Obama that they possibly can, try and instead find out how we can start making this country a better place to live in? Jesus fucking Christ. Since when did this site become full of sinless saints? Worry about your own shit before attacking someone else. Have your taxes gone up? Has your house been bombed? Did you drive over a fucking IED after Barack won, in once again, a landslide.

For every black person that voted for Obama because he was black, there was a white person who DIDN'T vote for him for that same reason.


Blame, God so much blame to go around, and why when you were telling everone how _ _ _ _ _ _ _ bad Bush or any other Pres. was did you or the rest of the God blessed country that voted for Obama try to fix the problems then. :eek:

[bcoop]

Brent, I have to disagree. If I had a dollar for every white person I heard say "I ain't voting for that nigger" or "that nigger better not win", I could buy another 350z. Alot of people voted for McCain simply because he was white. Its a sensitive issue, but the vast majority of people are pissed off because a black man is going to be president.



I think you're misunderstanding what I've said. I'm not denying that racism exists. I'm not denying that white voters simply voted against Obama, because he is black. But to say that all white voters voted for McCain simply because he is white, is nothing short of ignorant. You know, that thing that runs rampant around here, ESPECIALLY in this forum.


Look at the voting statistics. Then look at the ethnic breakdown in percentages and actual numbers. To say that for every black person that simply voted for Obama because he is black, is absurd.


Let me do some digging for actual numbers.

[BLAKE]

The figures I heard were:

Historically, blacks vote 95% Democrat.

In this election, 95% of voting blacks selected Obama.

So it's sort of 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other, though I'm sure an argument could be made that more blacks were inspired to vote this year, thereby increasing the total number, if not the overall percentage. Again, just what I heard.

Brent, I have to disagree. If I had a dollar for every white person I heard say "I ain't voting for that nigger" or "that nigger better not win", I could buy another 350z and then flip it.

lol, sorry, I couldn't resist. :D

[AL P]

Yet, you may have hung out with someone who was racist, skin-head, cheater and/or a thief, womanizer, assaulter, etc. I am sure you did an FBI background check on everyone you know. Lets be real we talk about people here on DFWstangs that scam people. You say you never said the N word even in joking. Or been around family, friends, or neighbors that have had those beliefs? If not my friend you have been living in a bubble of love.... I hope none of us corrupt you.

As I said, I'm virtually certain that I have never hung out with someone who thought setting off bombs to make a political statement is an acceptable practice.

I must congratulate you on a nice attempt at a smokescreen that you have crafted here in order to rationalize your bullshit apples to oranges comparison. Unfortunately for you, most of the members of this forum think for themselves.

[Hollywood]

I think you're misunderstanding what I've said. I'm not denying that racism exists. I'm not denying that white voters simply voted against Obama, because he is black. But to say that all white voters voted for McCain simply because he is white, is nothing short of ignorant. You know, that thing that runs rampant around here, ESPECIALLY in this forum.


Look at the voting statistics. Then look at the ethnic breakdown in percentages and actual numbers. To say that for every black person that simply voted for Obama because he is black, is absurd.


Let me do some digging for actual numbers.

I definitely don't agree with the comment that all people voting for McCain, voted simply because he was white. So, we agree on that. I just think McCain got alot of votes because he was the white candidate. If you look at the demographics of the states McCain won, you'll see it's mostly southern and midwestern states, areas that are known for their racial and religious bias, much more than say, the New England area.

[Hollywood]

The figures I heard were:

Historically, blacks vote 95% Democrat.

In this election, 95% of voting blacks selected Obama.

So it's sort of 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other, though I'm sure an argument could be made that more blacks were inspired to vote this year, thereby increasing the total number, if not the overall percentage. Again, just what I heard.



lol, sorry, I couldn't resist. :D


Blake...thats just wrong.....funny....but wrong, lol.

[bcoop]

I just think McCain got alot of votes because he was the white candidate.


Oh, I'm certain that's the case. There are a lot of old, proud white people in this country. The truth is, we'll never know how many voted for McCain just because he was white. You'd never get a lot of people to admit it. Sure some will, but it's definitely not the majority. The same goes for African Americans. Good luck in getting them to reveal they only voted for Obama because he was black (hypothetically, as I'm not claiming every black person voted for Obama solely on race).

I just think the 1:1 ratio is slightly absurd. Back in the 50s, that wouldn't be unheard of at all. Today, I think it's just a stretch for someone that's trying so hard to make this about race. It's not about race to me. Never was. Even with him winning, it is my opinion that this election set the country back many years, when it comes to equality.

[Weslie]

Quite honestly, I haven't heard of this. Again, post a news source. Otherwise, much like the rest of this ignorant post, what you say has zero merit.I know you don't necessarily consider the Washington Post credible, but I first heard about this on CNN at some point during the primaries. I don't give a shit about her drug addictions, but here is the link if you care to read about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/11/ST2008091103947.html

[BLAKE]

Blake...thats just wrong.....funny....but wrong, lol.


Heheh, you're a good sport man.

[bcoop]

I know you don't necessarily consider the Washington Post credible, but I first heard about this on CNN at some point during the primaries. I don't give a shit about her drug addictions, but here is the link if you care to read about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/11/ST2008091103947.html



Interesting stuff. I had never heard about that.


I guess the Dems didn't push it too hard, because of Obama's admitted drug use. By doing so, they would've only shot themselves in the foot.


Yeah, I don't particularly care, either. The only time drug use would be relevant in my eyes, is a longstanding history of drug abuse with drugs like LSD, ecstacy, etc.

Even then, relevance is relative. To some it's a sign of weakness, needing a crutch to deal, etc. I do however, find it funny that drug use has always been a big issue in politics. Damning, if you will. Until this election, anyways. I didn't hear one major news outlet make any mention of it during this election. I only know this, as it was referenced in excerpts from Obama's books.


What's wrong, Shaolin? Did I make you think too hard, and your head exploded? Are you trying to find a way to spin this, to make me appear racist? What's taking so long?

[Miss D]

Interesting stuff. I had never heard about that.


I guess the Dems didn't push it too hard, because of Obama's admitted drug use. By doing so, they would've only shot themselves in the foot.


Yeah, I don't particularly care, either. The only time drug use would be relevant in my eyes, is a longstanding history of drug abuse with drugs like LSD, ecstacy, etc.

Even then, relevance is relative. To some it's a sign of weakness, needing a crutch to deal, etc. I do however, find it funny that drug use has always been a big issue in politics. Damning, if you will. Until this election, anyways. I didn't hear one major news outlet make any mention of it during this election. I only know this, as it was referenced in excerpts from Obama's books.


What's wrong, Shaolin? Did I make you think too hard, and your head exploded? Are you trying to find a way to spin this, to make me appear racist? What's taking so long?

As an adult Obama admitted that during high school he used marijuana, cocaine, and alcohol

Hope he don't get to stressed out as Pres :mad:

[Cobra Commander]

Actually, no you're not. Is this really all you've got? I call you ignorant, because it's a fact. And you come back with some weak ass shit like this? I bet your cunt mother is proud.




No, it's not a terrorist act. It's called a hate crime. But, please, humor me. Go find one fucking post where I've condoned someone taking the POTUS out. Please. I'll give you all the time you need.



Then why don't you go amuse yourself with the people talking about the 'end of days', because you have me confused with someone else. I've kept out of those threads for a reason. So again, please address those who've been making those comments, as I'm not the one.




Yeah, because I've got tons of political influence, let me tell you. :rolleyes:



Once again, please point out where I've said anything different. Am I crying foul? Am I saying he cheated? Nope. Again, address it with someone who made those claims. You're barking up the wrong tree, Corky.




McCain was palling around with terrorists? News to me. Please, post a link from a non leftist news source, and I'll bow out on that comment.




Quite honestly, I haven't heard of this. Again, post a news source. Otherwise, much like the rest of this ignorant post, what you say has zero merit.




Seriously? Please humor me again, and point out where I've made one negative comment about a black man being the President Elect. Why are YOU trying to make this about race with me? Did you see me in all the other threads calling him a ____? No, you didn't. Why don't you take it up with the people who have, instead of wasting your time with someone who has said nothing of the sort?





If you get your words of wisdom and words to live by from Kat Williams, well.... That explains everything.



You're just proved how knowledgeable you are and how you can call someone names and talk about my mother as if you know me. Only because I disagree with you and now you wanna call people names as if it really matters. The fact that you're angry that a Black Man used his resources like other politicians in the past to get elected. Its people like you who keep racism and bigitry alive. The election is over and your party lost.

Its amazing how you can be a keyboard warrior... but you can't back it up or say it to my face.... I live in Irving too if you really wanna tell me off. C'mon back it up. My cell number is on my sig if you wanna say that shit to my face lets meet at Joe's.... You're a pussy and I know you don't have the balls. So lets end this shit before you get yourself hurt physically and emotionally.

[Cobra Commander]

As I said, I'm virtually certain that I have never hung out with someone who thought setting off bombs to make a political statement is an acceptable practice.

I must congratulate you on a nice attempt at a smokescreen that you have crafted here in order to rationalize your bullshit apples to oranges comparison. Unfortunately for you, most of the members of this forum think for themselves.


Thats fine I guess we can agree to disagree. I just hate when Pussies like BCoop can call someone names because you disagree with them. They show their ignorance and immaturity. Its funny how they can be keyboard post whores, but when you meet them in person they just act like everything is cool. That to me is two faced. Well Al P its been a while since I seen you or talked to you. I hope everything is going well for you. later

[poopnut2]

Blame, God so much blame to go around, and why when you were telling everone how _ _ _ _ _ _ _ bad Bush or any other Pres. was did you or the rest of the God blessed country that voted for Obama try to fix the problems then. :eek:

Let's ummm............make sense next time you post.

[bcoop]

You're just proved how knowledgeable you are and how you can call someone names and talk about my mother as if you know me. Only because I disagree with you and now you wanna call people names as if it really matters. The fact that you're angry that a Black Man used his resources like other politicians in the past to get elected. Its people like you who keep racism and bigitry alive. The election is over and your party lost.

Its amazing how you can be a keyboard warrior... but you can't back it up or say it to my face.... I live in Irving too if you really wanna tell me off. C'mon back it up. My cell number is on my sig if you wanna say that shit to my face lets meet at Joe's.... You're a pussy and I know you don't have the balls. So lets end this shit before you get yourself hurt physically and emotionally.



LMFAO. You just don't get it do you? If you're going to call someone racist, you better make sure you are calling out the right person. You still have yet to prove where I've said anything about being angry about who our next president is, or saying something to the effect of having a black man as president.

For the record, I'll gladly meet you at Joe's to tell you how ignorant you are. But alas, I'm playing golf today and tomorrow, so it won't happen until next week.

[Cobra Commander]

Oh, I'm certain that's the case. There are a lot of old, proud white people in this country. The truth is, we'll never know how many voted for McCain just because he was white. You'd never get a lot of people to admit it. Sure some will, but it's definitely not the majority. The same goes for African Americans. Good luck in getting them to reveal they only voted for Obama because he was black (hypothetically, as I'm not claiming every black person voted for Obama solely on race).

I just think the 1:1 ratio is slightly absurd. Back in the 50s, that wouldn't be unheard of at all. Today, I think it's just a stretch for someone that's trying so hard to make this about race. It's not about race to me. Never was. Even with him winning, it is my opinion that this election set the country back many years, when it comes to equality.

Lets talk about McCain not loving his country until the age of 31!


John McCain, the son and grandson of Navy Admirals, who attended the United States Naval Academy on the public's dime, did not appreciate our great country until well into his adulthood. On March 13 as a guest on Hannity and Colmes he said:

"I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company."

Sean Hannity immediately went ballistic and punched McCain in his face. Oh wait, no he didn't. He proceeded to toss McCain another softball and I'm positive he hasn't mentioned the exchange since.

Lest you think McCain's statement was uttered in a moment of confusion, back on September of 1999, when he actually was a straight talker and hated Bush, he said upon launching his 2000 presidential campaign the same thing virtually word for word:

"I was born into America's service, it wasn't until I was deprived of her company that I fell in love with America.

And again in December of 1999 he said:

"I was not in love with America until I was deprived of her company"

The similarity of the wording indicates that this was actually a talking point.

McCain said this!

[Cobra Commander]

LMFAO. You just don't get it do you? If you're going to call someone racist, you better make sure you are calling out the right person. You still have yet to prove where I've said anything about being angry about who our next president is, or saying something to the effect of having a black man as president.

For the record, I'll gladly meet you at Joe's to tell you how ignorant you are. But alas, I'm playing golf today and tomorrow, so it won't happen until next week.


You don't get it...

Heres your Facts Checked about the Terrorist:


Back in February, the Washington Post reported in a fact check, But the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one.(Washington Post, 2/18/08)

As part of a larger project where I'm compiling a long list of all the lies and smears spread about Obama, here are over two dozen lies about Ayers and Obama.

Tonight's Hannity's America featured more of these absurd lies about Obama and Ayers in Hannity's infomercial for idiocy, including an amazing interview with legendary anti-Semitic crackpot Andy Martin:

LIE: "My view is that the community organizer was really a sham event. Bill Ayers was testing him."(Andy Martin, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

TRUTH: Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's community organizing job. It's pure lunacy to imagine that Ayers was "testing" Obama.

LIE: Obama's "community organizing is a grand scheme perpetuated by none other than William Ayers."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

TRUTH: Obama's community organizing was not a vast conspiracy for revolution devised by Bill Ayers.

LIE: "They live half a mile from William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist" and "Just a half a mile from those homes is Louis Farrakhan."(Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

TRUTH: It's true, of course, that Obama lives in this same neighborhood, as do tens of thousands of other people who presumably are also guilty by geographical association. The logic of this argument would be, if you live half a mile from a sex offender, then you agree with child molesters.

LIE: Obama and Ayers "appeared together at various public engagements...it would seem that they are more than just a little bit friendly."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

TRUTH: Appearing on a speaking panel is not a sign of friendship. There is no evidence that Obama had any role in ever inviting Ayers to speak.

LIE: In 1995, Ayers and Dohrn "hosted a political coming out party for a young Barack Obama."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

TRUTH: This was an event for Alice Palmer, not a "coming-out party" for Obama. Obama was invited by Palmer to the event.

But long before tonight's Hannity, the right-wing has been spreading a series of lies about Obama and Ayers.

LIE: "Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist."

TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck.org noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground. (Factcheck.org)

LIE: "I'm sure he's very patriotic, but his relationship with Mr. Ayers is open to question....Because, if you're going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he's unrepentant, that he wished he'd bombed more. And then, the worst thing of all, that I think really indicates Senator Obama's attitude, is he had the incredible statement that he compared Mr. Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist -- an unrepentant terrorist, with Senator Tom Coburn. Senator Coburn, a physician who goes to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life.' (John McCain, April 20, 2008, ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos)

TRUTH: Obama was not friends with Ayers. Ayers did not kick off Obama's campaign. And Obama was not comparing Ayers' actions with Coburn. Obama was pointing out that he works with people even when he disagrees with them.

LIE: "Obama's oldest friend in politics is a murderer and unrepentant terrorist. Why are they friends?"(ExposeObama.com email, Sept. 7, 2008)

TRUTH: Ayers isn't Obama's oldest friend in politics.

LIE: Ayers was "Obama's boss."(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)

TRUTH: The chair of a foundation board is not the boss of the members.

LIE: Jerome Corsi claimed Alice "Palmer would never have introduced Obama to the Hyde Park political community at the Ayres-Dohrn home unless she saw an affinity between Ayers and Dohrn's radical leftist history, her own history of far-leftist politics, and the politics of Barack Obama."(p. 137)

TRUTH: The event wasn't held primarily for Obama. It was Palmer's own announcement that she would run for Congress. Obama was there as Palmer's endorsed successor for her Senate seat, but there's no evidence that he had any role in deciding to hold it at Ayers' home.

LIE: Jerome Corsi claims about Obama: "either he did not know Ayers and Dohrn are still radical leftists--in which case he is implausibly naive--or Obama did know, which would confirm he joined with Ayers and Dohrn because Obama too continues to believe, albeit silently and secretly, in the Far Left's radical agenda."(p. 140)

TRUTH: Obama probably knew Ayers was a leftist, but he didn't care. Obama believes in the notion of a free society, where you work with people you disagree with.

LIE: "Even today, Ayers appears to hold the same radical political beliefs he did in the Weather Underground, and Obama had to know that was also the case when he first met Ayers in 1995."(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)

TRUTH: Corsi doesn't explain how Obama "had to know" Ayers' views on politics when he first met him. Telepathy? Mind-reading?

LIE: David Freddoso calls Obama's distant connection with Bill Ayers "a remarkable relationship for a presidential nominee to have."(p. 122)

TRUTH: It reality, it's not remarkable at all. The notion that people should resign from foundations and refuse to speak in public in order to avoid any connection to a former radical never convicted of a crime is absurd.

LIE: "The major media simply have not reported on Obama's two years at New York's Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers."(Tony Blankley, September 24, 2008)

TRUTH: Thousands upon thousands of people lived near Bill Ayers in Manhattan. Obama didn't know Ayers.

LIE: Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)

TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit. According to the New York Times reporting, Obama was recruited by other CAC leaders who knew him through the Joyce Foundation.

LIE: Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)

TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.

LIE: "Obama is hanging around with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. By the way, Bill Ayers advertised himself as being a communist with a small c just when he was beginning to
partner with Obama on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Stanley Kurtz, Hudson Institute, Washington DC, October 1, 2008)

TRUTH: Contrary to this McCarthyist attack, there's no evidence that Obama ever knew that Ayers supposedly called himself a communist, nor is that a good reason for Obama to end his work on school reform and charitable activities.

LIE: "who provided Obama with the only executive experience he has ever had in his young life? Bill Ayers, unrepentant domestic terrorist, communist revolutionary... (Joseph Farah, World Net Daily, October 2, 2008)

TRUTH: Ayers did not provide Obama with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge job. And Obama has also had executive experience in community organizing, running a voter registration drive, as well as running his campaigns. The New York Times reported, "In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama's appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year."(Scott Shane, New York Times, October 4, 2008)

LIE: "Barack Obama is friends with Ayers, defending him as quote 'respectable and mainstream.'"(American Issues Project ad, August 2008)

TRUTH: David Axelrod described them as "friendly," not friends. Obama didn't call Ayers respectable and mainstream (although Ayers now is); Obama's campaign on his website posted an op-ed in the press that described Ayers that way.

LIE: "I can't understand why somebody who wants to be president of the United States, I'll be perfectly honest with you, would want to associate or not condemn the actions of people in the past."(Paul Ragonese, April 27, 2008, Fox News' Hannity's America)


TRUTH: Obama has condemned the past actions of Bill Ayers and called him somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago. (April 16, 2008 debate)

LIE: About Bill Ayers, "Barack Obama really couldn't bring himself to say 'you know, I really don't like that guy.' That was too much for him to say. He had to talk about what a decent guy he is and what a good professor."(Jim Geraghty, "Hype: The Obama Effect")

TRUTH: There is no record of Obama during the campaign calling Ayers "decent" and "a good professor." In fact, Obama really did bring himself to criticize Ayers, denouncing him during a Democratic debate as "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago."

LIE: "Obama was feted at a fundraising event" at Ayers' home.("Hype: The Obama Effect")

TRUTH: Obama never had a fundraising event at Ayers' home.

LIE: Barack Obama and Bill Ayers had a close working relationship...the two of them were running the foundation together. (Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)

TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence of a "close working relationship" beyond attending a few meetings together. The notion that Obama and Ayers were the only ones running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is absolutely false.

LIE: "The most important smoking gun is that Barack Obama was funding Bill Ayers' radical educational projects."(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)

TRUTH: This is false. Obama was the president of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, not its dictator. There's no evidence that Obama made any funding decisions. Moreover, it would have been completely unprofessional for anyone, including Obama, to ban Bill Ayers from receiving funding for educational projects because of alleged radical activities decades earlier which Ayers was never convicted of. Kurtz has no evidence that projects were judged based on anything other than their merits. This is a pure smear by association.

LIE: Emails "give us strong evidence that there may have been a cover-up in Bill Ayers' role choosing Barack Obama."(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)

TRUTH: This is a fabrication. The email Kurtz is referring to shows absolutely no kind of cover up. In fact, it shows exactly the opposite. In his blog, Kurtz quotes the entire email Ken Rolling wrote to CAC founders Warren Chapman and Anne Hallett and notes that Sam Dillon, Education Reporter for the New York Times, was working on an article. Rolling wrote about Dillon, He is trying to understand how Barack got 'picked' for the CAC board, by whom, why, etc. - I have avoided that question head-on though I believe Barack was Debbie Leff's/Joyce nomination." This email reveals no kind of cover-up, and the New York Times article found several sources that said Obama was not picked by Ayers.

LIE: "There is a secret group in the Obama-Biden campaign tasked with shutting off any leaks from the record that links Barack Obama to his longtime adviser and mentor Bill Ayers, professor of education at the University of Illinois and unrepentant Weatherman terrorist and fugitive from the 1970s....There is a substantial independent report from a major Democratic source that confirms Diamond's suspicions. The source confirms the unit is led by Bill Ayers himself and likely includes Tom Hayden and other members of 'Progressives for Obama.' Most critically, the Democratic source says this unit has direct access to media adviser David Axelrod of the Obama-Biden campaign."(John Batchelor, Human Events, September 12, 2008)

TRUTH: There is no "secret group." Hayden reports, "I am not part of any effort, personal or organized, trying to protect Obama against any leaks." The notion that Ayers is leading the "unit" is laughable. According to the University of Illinois library, "all papers have been available since August 26" about the school reform group that Ayers and Obama worked on. Diamond, the source cited for the existence of the "unit," declares, "I have no evidence of such a unit." Diamond added, "I told Batchelor that I would not speak to Human Events yet he made up a quote from me and placed it in his article."

[Cobra Commander]

McCain's own campaign manager is a crook also:


Newsweek confirms the story:

Freddie Mac had previously paid an advocacy group run by Davis, called the Homeownership Alliance, $30,000 a month until the end 2005, when that group was dissolved. That relationship was the subject of a New York Times story Monday, which drew angry denunciations from the McCain campaign. McCain and his aides have vehemently objected to suggestions that Davis has ties to Freddie Mac-an especially sensitive issue given that the Republican presidential candidate has blamed "the lobbyists, politicians and bureaucrats" for the mortgage crisis that recently prompted the Bush administration to take over both Freddie Mac and its companion, Fannie Mae, and put it under federal conservatorship.

But neither the Times story -- nor the McCain campaign -- revealed that Davis's firm, the Washington, D.C. based lobbying firm Davis Manafort, continued to receive $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac until last month-long after the Homeownership Alliance had been terminated. The two sources, who requested anonymity discussing sensitive information, told Newsweek that Davis himself approached Freddie Mac in 2006 and asked for a new consulting arrangement that would allow his firm to continue to be paid. The arrangement was approved by Hollis McLoughlin, Freddie Mac's vice president for external relations, because "he [Davis] was John McCain's campaign manager and it was felt you couldn't say no," said one of the sources. [McLoughlin did not return phone calls].

[Blown03_GT]

Damn dude give it a fricking rest. The election is over.

[Cobra Commander]

McCain's execution of Poor Judgement...

The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly intervening in 1987 on behalf of Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of a regulatory investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB). The FHLBB subsequently backed off taking action against Lincoln.

Lincoln Savings and Loan collapsed in 1989, at a cost of over $3 billion to the federal government. Some 23,000 Lincoln bondholders were defrauded and many elderly investors lost their life savings. The substantial political contributions that Keating had made to each of the senators, totalling $1.3 million, attracted considerable public and media attention. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

[Cobra Commander]

Damn dude give it a fricking rest. The election is over.


Dude, I got called out by this pussy... I thought I'd show him some research.

[Cobra Commander]

McCain's Vice President Candidate: Sarah Palin has ethics violations and used tax payer dollars inappropriately: What hipocracy


Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home
Taxpayers Also Funded Family's Travel

ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.

Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official "duty station" is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

The governor's daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

Gubernatorial spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said Monday that Palin's expenses are not unusual and that, under state policy, the first family could have claimed per diem expenses for each child taken on official business but has not done so.

Before she became the Republican Party's vice presidential nominee, Palin was little known outside Alaska. Now, with the campaign emphasizing her executive experience, her record as mayor of Wasilla, as a state oil-and-gas commissioner and as governor is receiving intense scrutiny.

During her speech at the Republican National Convention last week, Palin cast herself as a crusader for fiscal rectitude as Alaska's governor. She noted that she sold a state-owned plane used by the former governor. "While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for," she said to loud applause.

Speaking from Palin's Anchorage office, Leighow said Palin dealt with the plane and also trimmed other expenses, including forgoing a chef in the governor's mansion because she preferred to cook for her family. The first family's travel is an expected part of the job, she said.

"As a matter of protocol, the governor and the first family are expected to attend community events across the state," she said. "It's absolutely reasonable that the first family participates in community events."

The state finance director, Kim Garnero, said Alaska law exempts the governor's office from elaborate travel regulations. Said Leighow: "The governor is entitled to a per diem, and she claims it."

The popular governor collected the per diem allowance from April 22, four days after the birth of her fifth child, until June 3, when she flew to Juneau for two days. Palin moved her family to the capital during the legislative session last year, but prefers to stay in Wasilla and drive 45 miles to Anchorage to a state office building where she conducts most of her business, aides have said.

Palin rarely sought reimbursement for meals while staying in Anchorage or Wasilla, the reports show.

[Cobra Commander]

John McCain allowed the RNC to spend $150,000 on Sarah Palin's wardrobe.

Millions of Americans are in danger of losing their homes, and many spend less than that on a home...it shows they're elitists, and shows bad judgement.

Palin is an Elitist who said I didn't know how much the wardrobe cost. I can't believe she is so out of touch with brand names since she shops at consignment stores in Alaska: Bitch is lying $150K by the Republican Committee...

Cable television, talk radio and even shows like “Access Hollywood” seemed gripped with sartorial fever after campaign finance reports confirmed that the Republican National Committee spent $75,062 at Neiman Marcus and $49,425 at Saks Fifth Avenue in September for Ms. Palin and her family.

Advisers to Ms. Palin said on Wednesday that the purchases — which totaled about $150,000 and were classified as “campaign accessories” — were made on the fly after Ms. Palin, the governor of Alaska, was chosen as the Republican vice-presidential candidate on Aug. 29 and needed new clothes to match climates across the 50 states. They emphasized, too, that Ms. Palin did not spend time on the shopping, and that other people made the decision to buy such an array of clothes.

Yet Republicans expressed consternation publicly and privately that the shopping sprees on her behalf, which were first reported by Politico, would compromise Ms. Palin’s standing as Senator McCain’s chief emissary to working-class voters whose salvos at the so-called cultural elite often delight audiences at Republican rallies.

[Cobra Commander]

Obama is such a f-ing Socialist...lol's McCain's best interests at Heart!


In a new Center for American Progress Action Fund analysis, Michael Ettlinger documents how much the presidential candidates stand to personally benefit from the McCain and Obama tax proposals.

The McCains — who report an annual income of over $6 million — would receive well over $300,000 from John McCain’s tax plan. By contrast, both the Obamas and McCains would receive a substantial, albeit much smaller, savings under Obama’s tax plan:

John and Cindy McCain

Savings Under McCain Tax Plan $373,429 $49,329

Barack and Michelle Obama

Savings Under Obama Tax Plan $5,641 $6,124

[FSON]

John McCain allowed the RNC to spend $150,000 on Sarah Palin's wardrobe.

Millions of Americans are in danger of losing their homes, and many spend less than that on a home...it shows they're elitists, and shows bad judgement.

Palin is an Elitist who said I didn't know how much the wardrobe cost. I can't believe she is so out of touch with brand names since she shops at consignment stores in Alaska: Bitch is lying $150K by the Republican Committee...

Cable television, talk radio and even shows like “Access Hollywood” seemed gripped with sartorial fever after campaign finance reports confirmed that the Republican National Committee spent $75,062 at Neiman Marcus and $49,425 at Saks Fifth Avenue in September for Ms. Palin and her family.

Advisers to Ms. Palin said on Wednesday that the purchases — which totaled about $150,000 and were classified as “campaign accessories” — were made on the fly after Ms. Palin, the governor of Alaska, was chosen as the Republican vice-presidential candidate on Aug. 29 and needed new clothes to match climates across the 50 states. They emphasized, too, that Ms. Palin did not spend time on the shopping, and that other people made the decision to buy such an array of clothes.

Yet Republicans expressed consternation publicly and privately that the shopping sprees on her behalf, which were first reported by Politico, would compromise Ms. Palin’s standing as Senator McCain’s chief emissary to working-class voters whose salvos at the so-called cultural elite often delight audiences at Republican rallies.
You are absolutely right, she should have gone naked and unbathed with stubbly legs and armpit hair, no deodorant. The cost of the deodarant could have fed all the pygmies in Borneo for a year. I'm with you on this one, bro!

[Mustangman_2000]

LIE: "Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist."

TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck.org noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground. (Factcheck.org)

Complete and utter BS. You are a moron, sir. I'll happily debunk your non-sense and delusions.

Bill Ayers was a radical and a terrorist. Let's start with the definition of terrorism.

Terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. http://www.answers.com/topic/terrorism

Ayers girlfriend and close friend were killed while making a nail bomb to bomb a building. Ayers then became a fugitive later down the road. Bill Ayers participated in bombings of the NY Police HQ, Capitol Building, and Pentagon. They did this to in a misguided way hoping to destroy U.S. Imperialism and hoped to achieve a classless system. i.e. Communism.

Ayers dedicated his book Prarie Fire to Sirhan Sirhan.

Bill Ayers was a dangerous militant radical for the SDS/Weatherman group that promoted ideas of the "New Left". He was a terrorist. And he later regretted that he didn't do enough in a 2001 interview. He's a sick fuck. End of story.

This is a man that Obama once spoke very fondly of during his associations with him no matter how limited.

I just lost all faith in FactCheck.org They are no longer credible in my eyes and I won't use them as a source of fact checking.

[FSON]

OBAMA WILL CUT TAXES!

http://www.aim.org/press-release/aim-identifies-mysterious-obama-mentor-as-communist-party-revolutionary/

AIM Identifies Mysterious Obama Mentor As Communist Party Revolutionary


Press Release | February 19, 2008



WASHINGTON, February 19, 2008 -- A mysterious friend and adviser to Barack Obama when he was growing up in Hawaii is identified in a new column by Accuracy in Media editor Cliff Kincaid as a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. "Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency," Kincaid writes in the column, posted on the AIM web site www.aim.org

Obama's mentor "Frank" is Frank Marshall Davis, who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank," without a middle or last name.

Kincaid explains, "The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist front organizations."

AIM recently disclosed that Obama has connections to the Democratic Socialists of America and that he sponsored a "Global Poverty Act" designed to send hundreds of billions of U.S. foreign aid to the rest of the world, in order to meet U.N. demands. The bill has passed the House and a Senate committee and awaits full Senate action.

Accuracy in Media is a citizens' media watchdog organization whose mission is to promote fairness, balance, and accuracy in news reporting. Founded in 1969, AIM is the oldest non-profit press watchdog group in America. For more information, please visit www.aim.org.

To arrange an interview with AIM editor Cliff Kincaid, contact Sarah Schaerr Norton at (202) 364-4401

[bcoop]

Dude, I got called out by this pussy... I thought I'd show him some research.



Well, at least you are coming with something more legit, rather than just dismissing me as racist when you have no basis of doing so. I'm going to respond to what I have time for, but I'm about to head out the door for a round of golf with a couple customers. I'll respond later, to the items I can't get to before I go.

[Casper]

How about instead of all the assholes trying to find anything wrong with Obama that they possibly can, try and instead find out how we can start making this country a better place to live in?

I think there is a whole thread on this topic whereby everyone seemed to agree that obama dying would be a bad thing and not something anyone should be working towards.

In fact most threads that criticize obama have been very constructive in that regard, indicating that the country and the world could become a better place if obama would drop the dumbass ideas.

[bcoop]

McCain's Vice President Candidate: Sarah Palin has ethics violations and used tax payer dollars inappropriately: What hipocracy


Sarah Palin does NOT have ethics violations. She had ALLEGED ethics violations. Do you know the difference? I mean, this is America after all. Innocent until proven guilty. Which, by the way, she was cleared of any wrongdoing, by a committee that was run by a Democrat. I guess you didn't look too far in to that, since you don't have anything to back it up.


Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home
Taxpayers Also Funded Family's Travel

ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.

Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official "duty station" is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

The governor's daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

Gubernatorial spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said Monday that Palin's expenses are not unusual and that, under state policy, the first family could have claimed per diem expenses for each child taken on official business but has not done so.

Before she became the Republican Party's vice presidential nominee, Palin was little known outside Alaska. Now, with the campaign emphasizing her executive experience, her record as mayor of Wasilla, as a state oil-and-gas commissioner and as governor is receiving intense scrutiny.

During her speech at the Republican National Convention last week, Palin cast herself as a crusader for fiscal rectitude as Alaska's governor. She noted that she sold a state-owned plane used by the former governor. "While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for," she said to loud applause.

Speaking from Palin's Anchorage office, Leighow said Palin dealt with the plane and also trimmed other expenses, including forgoing a chef in the governor's mansion because she preferred to cook for her family. The first family's travel is an expected part of the job, she said.

"As a matter of protocol, the governor and the first family are expected to attend community events across the state," she said. "It's absolutely reasonable that the first family participates in community events."

The state finance director, Kim Garnero, said Alaska law exempts the governor's office from elaborate travel regulations. Said Leighow: "The governor is entitled to a per diem, and she claims it."

The popular governor collected the per diem allowance from April 22, four days after the birth of her fifth child, until June 3, when she flew to Juneau for two days. Palin moved her family to the capital during the legislative session last year, but prefers to stay in Wasilla and drive 45 miles to Anchorage to a state office building where she conducts most of her business, aides have said.

Palin rarely sought reimbursement for meals while staying in Anchorage or Wasilla, the reports show.


Can you post a link to the news source, along with the article? Did you happen to read the portion in bold? In fact, did you happen to read this article at all? I really don't see any wrongdoing here. The article fails to state any misuse of funds.

[bcoop]

Obama is such a f-ing Socialist...lol's McCain's best interests at Heart!


In a new Center for American Progress Action Fund analysis, Michael Ettlinger documents how much the presidential candidates stand to personally benefit from the McCain and Obama tax proposals.

The McCains — who report an annual income of over $6 million — would receive well over $300,000 from John McCain’s tax plan. By contrast, both the Obamas and McCains would receive a substantial, albeit much smaller, savings under Obama’s tax plan:

John and Cindy McCain

Savings Under McCain Tax Plan $373,429 $49,329

Barack and Michelle Obama

Savings Under Obama Tax Plan $5,641 $6,124


I fail to see anything wrong here, as well. Taxes and the way they are handled have long been a major contributing difference between Democrats and Republicans. I, happen to side with the Republicans on this. I don't believe in distributing the wealth. I don't believe in my hard earned income, going to someone who lacks the drive and perseverance to better themselves. You, Joe the Plumber, and every other Citizen have the same rights I do. I used to be a low income worker. I didn't like it very much. You know what I did? I changed it. I now do quite well for my family.


Look at this information. Take plenty of time to read through this, and then come tell me how it's not fair. Jealous that you haven't made as much in your life as McCain, or let's say Bill Gates?

http://www.brianpowellmusic.com/californiataxes.html

[CAD424]

A lot of us are disappointed by the election results, sure. The election is over and it was a total blow out. The way I see it, is I have two choices. I can be mad everyday for the next four years or I can support the President and take comfort in the fact that I still live in the best damn country in the world.

I served 7 years in the United States Army and I fully understand what McCain was saying about not loving America until he was deprived of it. I've always loved America but I never appreciated how great of a country it is and how lucky we are to be Americans until I spent time in some of the poorest and most corrupt countries in the world.

It's because I'm a Veteran that I will take the position of supporting the POTUS. I can suppot him without agreeing with him on all of his policies. Do I think the voters got it wrong, yes. That's just my opinion.

Obama was a more popular candidate and like every previous election this, too was a popularity contest in which the issues really took a back seat.

Besides, now I don't have to pay for gas or pay for my mortgage. :rolleyes:

[ALLAN]

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00219)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00217)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)

7. “Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.