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lee earley
11-03-2008, 07:04 AM
my ass this weekend. I did a 5k and made the mistake by taking one about 1 1/2 hours before the run. I started out really well first mile 8:05, second mile 8:25, then on the third mile my heart felt like it was coming out of my chest and the last mile was 10:00. I finished at 26:30. I should have been in the 24:20 range but oh well. I wont make that mistake again.

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 07:31 AM
my ass this weekend. I did a 5k and made the mistake by taking one about 1 1/2 hours before the run. I started out really well first mile 8:05, second mile 8:25, then on the third mile my heart felt like it was coming out of my chest and the last mile was 10:00. I finished at 26:30. I should have been in the 24:20 range but oh well. I wont make that mistake again.


Weird, Never made me feel any different, other than it making me feel really good,and that was probably only right off the bat.. Maybe only within the1st week,

Nice time btw

lee earley
11-03-2008, 07:54 AM
I have been taking them for a month or so, but not everyday. this is the first time i have taken one and ran. I will take one in the morning and go to the gym and i feel good. then i run in the evenings and it has worn off. so im just guessing the hyperdrive did it to me. my wife is a nurse and she said i was pretty stupid for doing that. she was pretty pissed about it.

GRAYHORSE
11-03-2008, 08:01 AM
. my wife is a nurse and she said i was pretty stupid for doing that. she was pretty pissed about it.


sounds like my wife, she's always going through my supps seeing what's in them. haha

lee earley
11-03-2008, 08:54 AM
sounds like my wife, she's always going through my supps seeing what's in them. haha

Yeah i know what you mean. I wanted to try the Halovar and when I was talking to her about it she went nuts. It was like I was asking her if i could bang one of her hot friends.

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 09:07 AM
Yeah i know what you mean. I wanted to try the Halovar and when I was talking to her about it she went nuts. It was like I was asking her if i could bang one of her hot friends.


I dated a nurse once... Man they are hot... and scrubs are cool! She tried to talk me out of some of the things I was taking, I said "You arent my esposa" :mad:

She has access to Growth Hormone but she wouldnt get me any... :(

Slowhand
11-03-2008, 09:12 AM
I said "You arent my esposa" :mad:


Ha!

lee earley
11-03-2008, 09:19 AM
I dated a nurse once... Man they are hot... and scrubs are cool! She tried to talk me out of some of the things I was taking, I said "You arent my esposa" :mad:

She has access to Growth Hormone but she wouldnt get me any... :(

Just tell her your dick will grow like 6 inches and then you can donkey punch her. I bet then she will get the stuff for you. :D and if that works please tell me, then i can try that with my esposa, and i hope that means wife.

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 09:22 AM
Just tell her your dick will grow like 6 inches and then you can donkey punch her. I bet then she will get the stuff for you. :D and if that works please tell me, then i can try that with my esposa, and i hope that means wife.


OOOh...6"! That means I would be gettin some strange huh?

And yes, esposa means strange

GRAYHORSE
11-03-2008, 10:01 AM
Yeah i know what you mean. I wanted to try the Halovar and when I was talking to her about it she went nuts. It was like I was asking her if i could bang one of her hot friends.


I have my wife convenced that HGH is the best thing a male over 30 can take for health and strength. So when i have a couple kids and im over 30 she said i can take it. :D

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 10:07 AM
I have my wife convenced that HGH is the best thing a male over 30 can take for health and strength. So when i have a couple kids and im over 30 she said i can take it. :D


I want some NOW. I turn 30 in december.

Hmmm.... ... . . ... .. .. .

lee earley
11-03-2008, 10:07 AM
I have my wife convenced that HGH is the best thing a male over 30 can take for health and strength. So when i have a couple kids and im over 30 she said i can take it. :D

maybe another angle i can use. i like your way of thinking.im over 30, but the wife is wanting to have a kid.

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 11:47 AM
:D maybe another angle i can use. i like your way of thinking.im over 30, but the wife is wanting to have a kid.


HGH does not affect you having a kid. Its expensive though, so that would be
the only drawback to it.

No Excuses Earley - Tell you what, you buy our HGH and I will sit beside you and do it with you., ,how does that sound

lee earley
11-03-2008, 12:05 PM
:D


HGH does not affect you having a kid. Its expensive though, so that would be
the only drawback to it.

No Excuses Earley - Tell you what, you buy our HGH and I will sit beside you and do it with you., ,how does that sound


That would be awesome. but a divorce would cost me lots of money and i dont think it is worth it.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 12:37 PM
You drugged out lazyshits can't do it naturally or what?
:confused:

SuperWho?
11-03-2008, 12:49 PM
You drugged out lazyshits can't do it naturally or what?
:confused:
Lol, I was waiting for it. Yeah, you got me convinced to go straight up and gain all natural like, just protein and creatine and my preworkout. Got my diet down to an art and stickin to it. It's a bitch, but I think this will be the best way.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 01:18 PM
Lol, I was waiting for it. Yeah, you got me convinced to go straight up and gain all natural like, just protein and creatine and my preworkout. Got my diet down to an art and stickin to it. It's a bitch, but I think this will be the best way.
Good to hear man.
I'm glad my shit-talkin to the druggies actually has a positive affect on people.
I just think more long term vs. how small my balls are compared to someone elses.
I've been 100% natural and I'm bigger and stronger than 95% of the people on this board.
It's hard, but dedication is your friend...I haven't missed one day this year.

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 02:30 PM
You drugged out lazyshits can't do it naturally or what?
:confused:


Have you seen BIGGER FASTER STONGER?

I wouldnt suggest it, it would piss you off..


Lazy has nothing to do with it. If i had HGH i would be on it in a heartbeat..

Just cause you take supplements doesnt make you lazy, even TEDS have to work hard to gain their size. ..

GRAYHORSE
11-03-2008, 02:32 PM
You drugged out lazyshits can't do it naturally or what?
:confused:


Im doing naturaly better than you, so i guess so.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 02:46 PM
Im doing naturaly better than you, so i guess so.
Natural my fucken ass...(you have already admitted to taking PH cycles, if your memory fails you, plus no telling whatever else you have put your body through).
So get outta here with that shit.

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 02:49 PM
Natural my fucken ass...(you have already admitted to taking PH cycles, if your memory fails you, plus no telling whatever else you have put your body through).
So get outta here with that shit.


Are you telling me you WOULDNT fuck a bitch with fake tits?

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 02:51 PM
Are you telling me you WOULDNT fuck a bitch with fake tits?
What does that have to do with this subject at hand?

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 02:53 PM
What does that have to do with this subject at hand?


Paying to look better.... Cheating...

You seem to be so against it, I figured you wouldnt bang a chick with fake tits cause she cheated, paid to look better....

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 02:54 PM
Have you seen BIGGER FASTER STONGER?

I wouldnt suggest it, it would piss you off..


Lazy has nothing to do with it. If i had HGH i would be on it in a heartbeat..

Just cause you take supplements doesnt make you lazy, even TEDS have to work hard to gain their size. ..
You just need to know the right people then.
Most of the time, the pushers aren't even on it.
It is very easy to find... if you know the right people.
I just find it funny how people feel the NEED to rely on supplements vs. old fashioned sweat and tears to achieve their goals.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 02:56 PM
Paying to look better.... Cheating...

You seem to be so against it, I figured you wouldnt bang a chick with fake tits cause she cheated, paid to look better....
I'm just not attracted to them, because most of them turn into attention whores.
Kinda like I laugh at guys in the gym that flex in the mirrors.
Only people I have been impressed by flexing...all came from Stroud's(including Johnnie Jackson, Branch Warren, and Jay Moore).

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 02:57 PM
You just need to know the right people then.
Most of the time, the pushers aren't even on it.
It is very easy to find... if you know the right people.
I just find it funny how people feel the NEED to rely on supplements vs. old fashioned sweat and tears to achieve their goals.


I can get it, Just cant shell out the $$ to get the proper amount..

Old fashioned sweat and tears + a lil help is bad?

I dont think anyone is wrong here, we are just firm on our stance on
supplements... You are a big guy, naturally. I was fucked and I stopped growing at 5'6", So my only way to grow is out...

HECDOGGIE
11-03-2008, 03:00 PM
I'm just not attracted to them, because most of them turn into attention whores.
Kinda like I laugh at guys in the gym that flex in the mirrors.
Only people I have been impressed by flexing...all came from Stroud's(including Johnnie Jackson, Branch Warren, and Jay Moore).


Now, I agree with attention whore part... I quit talking to the last girl I was with cause she posted her tits everywhere (clothed of course) but its still a turn off.
My main point was natural tits vs paid for tits...

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 03:04 PM
I can get it, Just cant shell out the $$ to get the proper amount..

Old fashioned sweat and tears + a lil help is bad?

I dont think anyone is wrong here, we are just firm on our stance on
supplements... You are a big guy, naturally. I was fucked and I stopped growing at 5'6", So my only way to grow is out...
Thank you...I respect your opinion as well.
Ectomorphs can put on size too, you just need to how to eat/train.
It's hard, but if it wasn't hard...we all would have perfect bodies.
The real question is...how bad do you want it and what are you willing to give...not take???

dsrtuckteezy
11-03-2008, 05:43 PM
Thank you...I respect your opinion as well.
Ectomorphs can put on size too, you just need to how to eat/train.
It's hard, but if it wasn't hard...we all would have perfect bodies.
The real question is...how bad do you want it and what are you willing to give...not take???

I like your style.

SuperWho?
11-03-2008, 06:31 PM
Ectomorphs can put on size too, you just need to how to eat/train.
It's hard, but if it wasn't hard...we all would have perfect bodies.
The real question is...how bad do you want it and what are you willing to give...not take???
No joke, I'm 6'4 and naturally thin, and i have been on the real shit and the ph's. I'm not judging, do what you gotta do. I have been at almost 240 before and was miserable getting there the fast way, the ph's got me to 230, but i wanted to lean out more, I'm just taking a different path and getting there with the big three. It just takes motivation and dedication. I like not having to worry about my liver any more.

LIFT BIG

EAT BIG

SLEEP BIG

GRAYHORSE
11-03-2008, 07:06 PM
Natural my fucken ass...(you have already admitted to taking PH cycles, if your memory fails you, plus no telling whatever else you have put your body through).
So get outta here with that shit.


I've taken a PH twice and i'm just ripped year round for the rest of life from them!! Of course they're just amino acids that i've waisted my money on too...

Vertnut
11-03-2008, 07:28 PM
I have been taking them for a month or so, but not everyday. this is the first time i have taken one and ran. I will take one in the morning and go to the gym and i feel good. then i run in the evenings and it has worn off. so im just guessing the hyperdrive did it to me. my wife is a nurse and she said i was pretty stupid for doing that. she was pretty pissed about it.
From personal experience, I never try anything "new" to my system before a competition. If you run/bike with it during training, you know what to expect when it counts.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-03-2008, 08:36 PM
I've taken a PH twice and i'm just ripped year round for the rest of life from them!! Of course they're just amino acids that i've waisted my money on too...

I guess your definition of "natural" differs from mine.
;)

I never said they didn't work.

Gaber
11-03-2008, 08:37 PM
Hyperdrive did absolutely nothing for me.

dsrtuckteezy
11-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Hyperdrive did absolutely nothing for me.

Same.

HECDOGGIE
11-04-2008, 02:10 AM
Hyperdrive did absolutely nothing for me.


how long did you take it gabe? Did you eat right and exercise on it?

Gaber
11-04-2008, 08:39 AM
how long did you take it gabe? Did you eat right and exercise on it?

Actually I tried it for 15 days, plus ate right and worked out. I felt the same as always. I'm sure it has different effects on different people. If I just eat right with high protein and low carbs, I can drop the weight fairly quickly.

HECDOGGIE
11-04-2008, 08:41 AM
Actually I tried it for 15 days, plus ate right and worked out. I felt the same as always. I'm sure it has different effects on different people. If I just eat right with high protein and low carbs, I can drop the weight fairly quickly.


I dont think you took it long enough bro, Honestly..

Stick with at least two bottles next time and you will notice a huge difference.

I lost weight and got really cut off the stuff...

GRAYHORSE
11-05-2008, 09:16 AM
I dont think you took it long enough bro, Honestly..

Stick with at least two bottles next time and you will notice a huge difference.

I lost weight and got really cut off the stuff...


Naah he's just not a responder because i can take 1 pill and be wired for 8 hrs. It's wierd how some say it does nothing and some lose 20lbs off one bottle.

HECDOGGIE
11-05-2008, 09:19 AM
Naah he's just not a responder because i can take 1 pill and be wired for 8 hrs. It's wierd how some say it does nothing and some lose 20lbs off one bottle.

Where is the sales man in you?

Here is what a true salesmans response would be"

Gaber, You didnt allow hyperdrive to get into your system,
Mr. Garcia is right, complete one bottle and start another minimum!
You should notice results then..


It doesnt get me "wired" I just feel "good"
and not hungry with helps PERIOD!

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 09:23 AM
Not being hungry = torture!

Gaber
11-05-2008, 09:30 AM
I might give it another go around. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

HECDOGGIE
11-05-2008, 09:30 AM
Not being hungry = torture!


I CANT AFFORD TO FEED MYSELF MAN! :D

I am a freakin animal over here..

HECDOGGIE
11-05-2008, 09:30 AM
I might give it another go around. Different strokes for different folks I guess.


Use the old sayin " Dont stop til some panties drop!"

GRAYHORSE
11-05-2008, 09:37 AM
Use the old sayin " Dont stop til some panties drop!"


A new PH hits the market tommorrow!! :cool:

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 09:38 AM
I CANT AFFORD TO FEED MYSELF MAN! :D

I am a freakin animal over here..
Come eat with me one time...I'll show you how a pig eats, lol.
I usually eat 5-7lbs of food and water in one sitting.
I usually order an appetizer, and at least two meals, with two glasses of water.
Not the healthiest approach but I also work 90hrs a week and train for 14 or so.
Detour bars and Supreme protein bars are my best friend.
I eat two of each a day(60g's) and also drink two protein shakes(100g's a day),
plus a can of chicken breast(75g's), then usually eat chicken and rice for dinner
each and every day.

Here is the way I see it:
Night out at the bar: $300
Weeks worth of protein/bars: $75-$100

Thank God I haven't drank one drop this entire year.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 09:40 AM
A new PH hits the market tommorrow!! :cool:
Is that the salesman in you talking?
Since you're all "natural"???
:D

GRAYHORSE
11-05-2008, 09:41 AM
Is that the salesman in you talking?
Since you're all "natural"???
:D


Im not natural i took a PH last year so im ripped 4 life!

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 09:58 AM
Im not natural i took a PH last year so im ripped 4 life!
Here is the question we all want to know then...
If the PH's are sooo good, why aren't you taking them anymore?

You were ripped before you started taking them, so don't go there.
Just like I am and was fat before I started working out.
Your stature and my stature is mainly attributed to our genetics, not your magic pills you took a year ago, lol.

HECDOGGIE
11-05-2008, 10:34 AM
Come eat with me one time...I'll show you how a pig eats, lol.
I usually eat 5-7lbs of food and water in one sitting.
I usually order an appetizer, and at least two meals, with two glasses of water.
Not the healthiest approach but I also work 90hrs a week and train for 14 or so.
Detour bars and Supreme protein bars are my best friend.
I eat two of each a day(60g's) and also drink two protein shakes(100g's a day),
plus a can of chicken breast(75g's), then usually eat chicken and rice for dinner
each and every day.

Here is the way I see it:
Night out at the bar: $300
Weeks worth of protein/bars: $75-$100

Thank God I haven't drank one drop this entire year.

I love the lower sugar Detour Bars..

Where in the hell do I get a can of chicken breast? What kind of sodium intake an I looking at there?

I havent drank in a long while...

For some reason, My belly likes to get big, I think thats why I need HGH- It will burn hec's belly fat!

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 10:46 AM
I love the lower sugar Detour Bars..

Where in the hell do I get a can of chicken breast? What kind of sodium intake an I looking at there?

I havent drank in a long while...

For some reason, My belly likes to get big, I think thats why I need HGH- It will burn hec's belly fat!
Yea, I eat those low sugar Detours, but the regular Detour bars only have 6 grams of sugar in them.
Think of a 12 oz coke…which has 30-40 grams of sugar as a good comparison value.

I consume a TON of sodium, but mainly because I'll be the first to admit...I LOVE salt!
I get all of my chicken breast meat at Sams…$2 a can(5 for $10).
It is good quality and like I said…I bring my lunch daily and eat the same thing day in and day out.

About the drinking thing...I feel 100% better knowing that I will wake up feeling
fine the next day and not miss any or halfass any of my workouts.

HECDOGGIE
11-05-2008, 10:54 AM
I get all of my chicken breast meat at Sams…$2 a can(5 for $10).
It is good quality and like I said…I bring my lunch daily and eat the same thing day in and day out.

About the drinking thing...I feel 100% better knowing that I will wake up feeling
fine the next day and not miss any or halfass any of my workouts.

Are they like tuna cans? how many ounces per can?
Interesting,

Drinking gets old.. Nothing good ever comes out of getting drunk.
Feeling like shit in the morning and not being productive gets old too, Unless
you make minimum wage and just dont give a fuck, then you deserve to get
drunk and waste your life.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Are they like tuna cans? how many ounces per can?
Interesting,

Drinking gets old.. Nothing good ever comes out of getting drunk.
Feeling like shit in the morning and not being productive gets old too, Unless
you make minimum wage and just dont give a fuck, then you deserve to get
drunk and waste your life.
13 oz cans = 75 grams
A lot of people dislike the taste(smells exactly like tuna), but I am used to it.
I am more so into it for the nutrition vs. taste.
Hence why I pig out soooo much whenever we go out to eat.

I agree, I have a lot to lose and work to much to come in here hungover.
I speak with professional people on a daily basis, so it wouldn't be tolerated.

SuperWho?
11-05-2008, 12:11 PM
I buy all my meat at Sam's now. Frozen chicken breast, tuna steaks, lean ground beef, canned chicken breast, etc. It's a lot cheaper, plus they got 5lb bags of eas 100% whey for like 30 bucks. Saves me a ton of dough. But damn, 7lbs of food? Good god. Your food bills must be ridiculous.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-05-2008, 12:21 PM
I buy all my meat at Sam's now. Frozen chicken breast, tuna steaks, lean ground beef, canned chicken breast, etc. It's a lot cheaper, plus they got 5lb bags of eas 100% whey for like 30 bucks. Saves me a ton of dough. But damn, 7lbs of food? Good god. Your food bills must be ridiculous.
Sam's don't carry lean ground beef.
Lean = 4% or less

But yea, I buy a ton of meat from them as well.
Yea, my main expenditure is definately FOOD fo sho!
Yea, if you knew me...you would know I can out eat the fattest man alive!
I don't think I have ever met a guy who could outeat me, out drink yea...but not outeat! haha
If you guys ever see Sam's carrying Twisted protein bars, let me know.
I got 24 of them suckers for like $8 and now they stopped carrying them.
Bastards!!!
:mad:

SuperWho?
11-05-2008, 12:27 PM
Sam's don't carry lean ground beef.
Lean = 4% or less

But yea, I buy a ton of meat from them as well.
Yea, my main expenditure is definately FOOD fo sho!
Yea, if you knew me...you would know I can out eat the fattest man alive!
I don't think I have ever met a guy who could outeat me, out drink yea...but not outeat! haha
If you guys ever see Sam's carrying Twisted protein bars, let me know.
I got 24 of them suckers for like $8 and now they stopped carrying them.
Bastards!!!
:mad:
I meant the 90% That's lean enough for me.

Gaber
11-05-2008, 12:44 PM
Here is the way I see it:
Night out at the bar: $300
Weeks worth of protein/bars: $75-$100

Thank God I haven't drank one drop this entire year.

Damn...$300? T Bar or regular bar? Either way, damn. I can just hang at a sports bar and spend maybe $25, and that's including a bite to eat.

I usually buy my chicken at S. Wally World. They've got skinless large C. Breast for $5 a pack. Not to bad.

MotoMan
12-01-2008, 06:01 PM
I started back on the Hyperdrive last week and jumped to 2 a day for the first time... I've never felt so jittery.