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[slow55]

I was going to ask this over on the TBHO site but didn’t want to listen to the nameless gum smackers running their mouths.
On the tranny rule of no Lenco/Bruno, I can understand a few years this rule would have keep higher power cars out and keep them from ruining the class.
In the last few where the technology has advanced at a rapid rate in power glide design there really isn’t a issue of glides not being able to hold any amount power a person can make, Look lynch running 6.50s@3000 pounds with a glide.
I know that the Lenco/ Bruno set up is not any faster than a glide, they just don’t break as often, but now with the glides ATI and COAN are putting out that’s not a problem anymore either.
Any chance of getting this rule changed over the winter?
I would still outlaw clutch cars and also maybe take the cubic inch limit down to under 700” instead of 799. As of right now I don’t think there are any cars in that class with anything over 700 as it is so no one would be affected on that one.
Just thought I would ask.

[JamesB]

you should see the number of glides they go through. They carry several of them wherever they go. Its a badass glide but they are still breaking. Kevin had the same setup in Lynch's car and broke it several times. It was so bad Kevin was trying to get his money back from ATI. He is going away from the glide and doing a Bruno/Lenco setup now.

[slow55]

you should see the number of glides they go through. They carry several of them wherever they go. Its a badass glide but they are still breaking. Kevin had the same setup in Lynch's car and broke it several times. It was so bad Kevin was trying to get his money back from ATI. He is going away from the glide and doing a Bruno/Lenco setup now.
Just trying to save a person the trouble of changing a car over and having to spend another 5k on a new glide.
Last weekend I also seen and talked to a few pro mod guys that were running glides and they weren't having any issues with them breaking.

[Thehead]

Just trying to save a person the trouble of changing a car over and having to spend another 5k on a new glide.
Last weekend I also seen and talked to a few pro mod guys that were running glides and they weren't having any issues with them breaking.
yeah, but promods are light! outlaw cars aren't. :o

[slow55]

yeah, but promods are light! outlaw cars aren't. :o
Thats true but they also have a big ass tire that doesn't slip much.

[fastfullsize]

I know of two that have 706ci that ran almost every race last year

[HEMIROC]

If you let in the bruno lenco's then all the KOTH cars are are legal and it instantly takes a 4.50 or better to run with them

[slow55]

I know of two that have 706ci that ran almost every race last year
Who?

[slow55]

If you let in the bruno lenco's then all the KOTH cars are are legal and it instantly takes a 4.50 or better to run with them
Thats where the cubic inch limit would come in. I can deal with the rule, was just trying to save someone from spending alot of money to convert.
It won't be long before some of these big motor koth cars start putting these new glides in and before long it will be 4.50 class either way.

[Littlemoney]

Here is the deal. There are alot of the KOTH guys that run the lenco/bruno, example: Grant, Kevin Hargett, Candyman if I am not mistaken, Shortridge, Brantley" he wanted to run a race with us to test, but he was not legal due to bruno".

I know I am missing some, but this was the only way we could stop some of them coming over and ripping the class apart. Yes you are correct about the power glides getting better.

We also have 1 738" that runs with us, but he only runs one stage of nitrous.

I am sorry but we can not change that rule at this time. We are trying to secure some sponsor monies so we can split the class all together "small tire and big tire".

[slow55]

Thats cool, just thought I would throw that out there and test the waters.
I would still look into lowering that cubic inch limit especialy if it's only going to affect one car as of right now. Also if it's who I'm thinking they have 600" motor they can run also.

[fastfullsize]

The two 706ci I know of are big tire cars. I agree slow55 its getting hard to keep up with some of these guys that can afford these huge ci motors. I am going to try and run every race next season as long as I can stay compettitve in the small tire class.

[slow55]

This is a cool class and even though I have never raced in it I like it. It just won't take much for it to get out of hand like koth did.
Whats going to happen if Marquis puts a glide in his car and comes out running 40's? He is still under the 799 limit. I would lower that to 699 or even 655 and a few simple turbo sizes. Easier to catch something now than wait till it becomes a big problem and kills off the class.

[fastfullsize]

It would probably help a little if they would limit it to one carb.

[slow55]

It would probably help a little if they would limit it to one carb.
Thats a thought, also no sheet metal intakes, cast only

[Littlemoney]

Man, I can't cut out half the class. We built this class for the guys that didnt want to run other certain classes. We are having a meeting at the end of the season to discuss rules and possible changes. I know we will make some people mad either way we do this. Also stop and think about it, we already limit the big tire cars to 2 stages of nitrous. We will also be looking at twin turbos.

[slow55]

Not trying to cut people out, just throwing some ideas out there to avoid koth repeat. I was one of the orginal koth members that helped make the rules up in a parking lot way back when. It started out simple and at the time most of the "top cars" that the class was ment for was all closely matched. Leaving the rules vague and not looking to the future caused it to go to hell in two years. At first everyone was worried about keeping "chassis" cars out. So a simple rule was made that it had to have factory or bolt in front frame and stock firewall and that was it. Well no one expected Kenny barnes to build a then state of the art backhalf car that questioned every rule there was at the time. This class is starting to get popular and has the potential to maybe become what koth once was. Got to sit back and look at the big picture and see where this class can go and not worry to much about hurting a few people now. A few simple rules to help keep cost to were normal people can still run. If they are left to open people will push them and find loop holes.