John Edwards' $500 haircut...

[gpamp]

doesn't seem so elitist, now, does it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/3242189/Republicans-spent-more-than-150000-on-Sarah-Palins-clothes.html

Quick! Spin!

[silverhatch]

Your a few hours late on this one. This was already posted and discussed.

[exlude]

I just read that on my google news homepage. I find it funny. I never had a huge problem with Edward's haircut, but find it all ridiculous. Unfortunately, people are too dumb to understand the issues so upwards of 80% of it is in the appearance. (Read: looking good and speaking eloquently.) It's sad, but who can we blame but the voters? They are the one's that the Reps and the Dems are catering to.

None of the other candidates do any differently, it's not just Palin, it's not just Obama.

[gpamp]

Your a few hours late on this one. This was already posted and discussed.
Shit.

Well, my thread title puts the hypocrisy in the spotlight a little more.

[exlude]

Shit.

Well, my thread title puts the hypocrisy in the spotlight a little more.

I do, however, better accept the money being put into more durable goods than on a haircut.

Hell, a $500 haircut every two weeks is about 52 grand a year. Yikes.

[72 El Camino]

doesn't seem so elitist, now, does it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/3242189/Republicans-spent-more-than-150000-on-Sarah-Palins-clothes.html

Quick! Spin!


Lets not worry about the 600 +million the other side has raised, or what they are doing with it.

[gpamp]

I do, however, better accept the money being put into more durable goods than on a haircut.

Hell, a $500 haircut every two weeks is about 52 grand a year. Yikes.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, they spent $4,716.49 on her hair & makeup for September.

[gpamp]

Lets not worry about the 600 +million the other side has raised, or what they are doing with it.
Campaigning?

[exlude]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, they spent $4,716.49 on her hair & makeup for September.

I don't feel good about any of it. It's all a huge fucking sham and a waste of money. But they are going to do whatever they need to do to get YOU (the voter) to mark their name. Substantial or not. It's all stupid.

[gpamp]

I don't feel good about any of it. It's all a huge fucking sham and a waste of money. But they are going to do whatever they need to do to get YOU (the voter) to mark their name. Substantial or not. It's all stupid.
Well, I think McCain picked Palin for the simple reason of getting him elected. Whereas Obama picked Biden for the work he can do once he IS elected. They're trying to polish her up and throw her out there as McCain's best bet.

Unfortunately, polls are showing that she's more of a drag on his campaign than Bush is.

[Big Thumper]

So be it. If they have it and want to spend it on that, that is their deal.

That is like me bitching about Tim Lynch spending 200k on his car.

[FSON]

What do you expect, they only wear jeans and flannel shirts in Alaska. Step into the real world of womens clothes, boink.

[46Tbird]

Hell, a $500 haircut every two weeks is about 52 grand a year. Yikes.No it's not. lol

[Somewhere in Time]

Shit.

Well, my thread title puts the hypocrisy in the spotlight a little more.

You sir define the word hypocrisy to a tee. Go fuck yourself.

[HOOCBB]

Campaigning?

buying cigarettes and booze for people to fraudulently register to vote in multiple districts? ***cough*** ACORN ***cough***

[gpamp]

buying cigarettes and booze for people to fraudulently register to vote in multiple districts? ***cough*** ACORN ***cough***
Or 175k paid by the McCain campaign to these guys:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/22/uselections2008-republicans

It's one thing to write in Mickey Mouse just to get cash for doing nothing, really. But another all-together to actually mess with real people's real registrations.

[The Punisher]

doesn't seem so elitist, now, does it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/3242189/Republicans-spent-more-than-150000-on-Sarah-Palins-clothes.html

Quick! Spin!
man, if I had a quarter for every stupid post you made.... I'd be in the tax bracket Obama wants to further tax the shit out of

[gpamp]

man, if I had a quarter for every stupid post you made.... I'd be in the tax bracket Obama wants to further tax the shit out of
I LOVE when you post shit like this. Because you don't argue against my post. You just throw your hands up and insult me, out of your inability to retort properly.

[01WhiteCobra]

I LOVE when you post shit like this. Because you don't argue against my post. You just throw your hands up and insult me, out of your inability to retort properly.

Shut up.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/tmq_obama_bush_200.jpg

[347Mike]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o233/mdt02/halloween1.jpg

[The Punisher]

I LOVE when you post shit like this. Because you don't argue against my post. You just throw your hands up and insult me, out of your inability to retort properly.
why retort something when the person posting it has a lack of brain cells in the first place?

[01WhiteCobra]

why retort something when the person posting it has a lack of brain cells in the first place?

It's fun.

Damn, the wrist is feeling better.

[Magnus]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, they spent $4,716.49 on her hair & makeup for September.

I still wonder how much was spent on hillary's wardrobe and styling for all of her campaign running.

Of course, we'll never see those numbers, because then the dems wouldn't have fingers left to point. :)

[The Punisher]

Then why not mention that obama has spent 4x the amount on his campaign then McCain. That is if you actually want to compare apples to apples as I am sure you dont. FYI He spent $87.5 million just last month

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_money_11
hell, just take a look at the 800k Obama has given to ACORN out of his campaign money to help them steal the election...

[89gt-stanger]

Well, I think McCain picked Palin for the simple reason of getting him elected. Whereas Obama picked Biden for the work he can do once he IS elected. They're trying to polish her up and throw her out there as McCain's best bet.

Unfortunately, polls are showing that she's more of a drag on his campaign than Bush is.

Biden is the dumbest liberal up there. Your fucked up. The only reason why he was picked was because his only controversy is botox. He dumber than a sack of shit.


You know what I think about this election, America is so misinformed about Obama. If ANYone votes for Obama/Biden, their IQ is in the lower double-digits.

[01WhiteCobra]

hell, just take a look at the 800k Obama has given to ACORN out of his campaign money to help them steal the election...

Gotta pay for those smokes some how.

[89gt-stanger]

Or 175k paid by the McCain campaign to these guys:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/22/uselections2008-republicans

It's one thing to write in Mickey Mouse just to get cash for doing nothing, really. But another all-together to actually mess with real people's real registrations.


Please realize you are getting your info from THE UK! They are so fucked up over there, even more than the USA.

[89gt-stanger]

Check this one out on Clinton. This year, taxpayers covered his $420,000 phone bill.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9531.html

[DON SVO]

If you guys would quit replying, he might stop posting. I cannot ban him for being stupid... sorry... hopefully, his psychiatrist changes his meds.

[5.0_CJ]

I LOVE when you post shit like this. Because you don't argue against my post. You just throw your hands up and insult me, out of your inability to retort properly.

You're a forum troll and you're politically retarded. It's evident you don't know much about politics in general, you just hate republicans. The weakest of the weak. Every post is a flame, or something controversial - if there is ANY content to a reply you completely ignore it all together.

[Mustangman_2000]

Quick! Spin!

Ok. I will.

I agree that spending that kind of money on clothing is excessive, campaign or no campaign.

However, I think this is the part of that article that you missed.


"It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign."

There's no charity in a $500 haircut.

[Trip McNeely]

gumps is a liberal pussy. Please go join the moveon forums and get the fuck out of here. No one wants to hear your left wing propaganda from your left wing sources.

[360 Notch]

Well, I think McCain picked Palin for the simple reason of getting him elected. Whereas Obama picked Biden for the work he can do once he IS elected. They're trying to polish her up and throw her out there as McCain's best bet.

Unfortunately, polls are showing that she's more of a drag on his campaign than Bush is.


says the liberal media... yea, great source. Shes not a drag, and I still think Bush has done a better job than your beloved slick willie.

You are now on ignore.

[Geor!]

You don't think Obama has paid that much, if not more, on his appearance? You're sadly mistaken, fuckhole.

Since we're speaking of spending, why has your prophet spent more than any other presidential candidate in history on trying to buy -- whoops, I'm sorry -- win this election?

[exlude]

No it's not. lol

You know, it isn't at all, lmfao. I'm not sure where I got that math. I even punched it into my calculator on my phone. I wonder what I was hitting...

Nevermind, I got it. I was thinking a haircut twice a week...which makes no sense at all. Carry on...lmfao

[gpamp]

Ok. I will.

I agree that spending that kind of money on clothing is excessive, campaign or no campaign.

However, I think this is the part of that article that you missed.



There's no charity in a $500 haircut.
What about the $4,716.49 that was spent on her hair & makeup in September, alone, that the article mentioned? Are some orphaned kids going to be blessed with some lipstick on napkins or something?

[5.0_CJ]

What about the $4,716.49 that was spent on her hair & makeup in September, alone, that the article mentioned? Are some orphaned kids going to be blessed with some lipstick on napkins or something?

lets get one thing straight, how much someone spends on a haircut is immaterial. Now, a candidate that fucks another woman while his wife is dying shows a lack of character. This argument is absolutely ridiculous and weak - and typical.

[sonic03gt]

Well, I think McCain picked Palin for the simple reason of getting him elected. Whereas Obama picked Biden for the work he can do once he IS elected. They're trying to polish her up and throw her out there as McCain's best bet.

Unfortunately, polls are showing that she's more of a drag on his campaign than Bush is.

WTF??!!! That's a retarded-ass statement. Obama and McCain picked their running mates for the exact same reasons. 1) They can help them get elected. 2) They can help them after being elected. Period.

Obama selected Biden because of Biden has experience in foreign policy, where Obama lacks the most experience.

McCain selected Palin because she is a reformer AND she's a woman (in an attempt to swing Hilary supporters to the right).

[Mustangman_2000]

What about the $4,716.49 that was spent on her hair & makeup in September, alone, that the article mentioned? Are some orphaned kids going to be blessed with some lipstick on napkins or something?

You want to argue about a woman spending $4,700 on hair and makeup? OK.

Here is my spin.

How about Obama pledging to use the public campaign finance system for his campaign and then go back on his pledge later by opting out. What that did is not cap or limit his campaign finance in any way. McCain used the public system keeping to his word and his is limited to $84 million for Sept - Oct. Obama's campaign has generated $600 million since he has no set limit due to opting out. His campaign money has dwarfed McCain's funds in all comparisons. I wonder how many more resources you have at your disposal with 600 million vs. 84 million.

Obama is a liar and because of that he has been able to outspend McCain in every regard. There is your decadent behavior. I'll take Palin's vanity any day of the week over that BS.

[01WhiteCobra]

You want to argue about a woman spending $4,700 on hair and makeup? OK.

Here is my spin.

How about Obama pledging to use the public campaign finance system for his campaign and then go back on his pledge later by opting out. What that did is not cap or limit his campaign finance in any way. McCain used the public system keeping to his word and his is limited to $84 million for Sept - Oct. Obama's campaign has generated $600 million since he has no set limit due to opting out. His campaign money has dwarfed McCain's funds in all comparisons. I wonder how many more resources you have at your disposal with 600 million vs. 84 million.

Obama is a liar and because of that he has been able to outspend McCain in every regard. There is your decadent behavior. I'll take Palin's vanity any day of the week over that BS.

Or the fact he has said... due to the economy... maybe his plan won't work right away and they'll have to do something else until the economy rights itself. Wait, I thought his plan was good for the economy.

Oh yea, he also realized as of late he maybe giving tax money back to people THAT DONT FUCKING WORK! Oh, we'll fix that too.

Whatever it takes to get elected. Which is my main point about Obama. He doesn't give a shit about this country. He only cares about getting elected. He'll be malleable enough to make it happen.

[jyro]

Obama went to the Bon Jovi compound in New Jersey and personally greeted guests who each paid 30,800 dollars for the privilege of meeting the nominee.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j3-FPZv40jw45DL-rF9_ljcfM1ng

[gpamp]

lets get one thing straight, how much someone spends on a haircut is immaterial. Now, a candidate that fucks another woman while his wife is dying shows a lack of character. This argument is absolutely ridiculous and weak - and typical.
DING DING DING DING

McCain fucked another woman (Cindy) while his WIFE was disabled due to a car wreck.

You were saying?

[gpamp]

WTF??!!! That's a retarded-ass statement. Obama and McCain picked their running mates for the exact same reasons. 1) They can help them get elected. 2) They can help them after being elected. Period.

Obama selected Biden because of Biden has experience in foreign policy, where Obama lacks the most experience.

McCain selected Palin because she is a reformer AND she's a woman (in an attempt to swing Hilary supporters to the right).
He selecter her because she's a reformer? That's extremely vague, if not a massive overstatement. The only part of that sentence that's verifiabley true, is the 2nd part. He ONLY picked her to get the far-religious-right (Pentecostals, etc), and if a few women who felt betrayed by the Democrats jumped on the Palin train, then bonus. But being that she doesn't even KNOW WHAT A VICE PRESIDENT DOES, I'm pretty sure he didn't select her because he thought she'd do a bang up job in the White House.

[gpamp]

You want to argue about a woman spending $4,700 on hair and makeup? OK.

Here is my spin.

How about Obama pledging to use the public campaign finance system for his campaign and then go back on his pledge later by opting out. What that did is not cap or limit his campaign finance in any way. McCain used the public system keeping to his word and his is limited to $84 million for Sept - Oct. Obama's campaign has generated $600 million since he has no set limit due to opting out. His campaign money has dwarfed McCain's funds in all comparisons. I wonder how many more resources you have at your disposal with 600 million vs. 84 million.

Obama is a liar and because of that he has been able to outspend McCain in every regard. There is your decadent behavior. I'll take Palin's vanity any day of the week over that BS.

Well stated argument, but calling Obama is a liar is a bit much. He had a loophole to get out of that. He simply didn't promise to do what you think he did. He said he'd "discuss" it.

However, the bigger liar, would be the one who actually helped write the bill, and uses the same loopholes.

"And McCain's campaign, which had not disclosed most of these donors until last week, has taken the concept to new levels, encouraging deep-pocketed supporters to write checks of more than $70,000, by adding state parties as beneficiaries of his fundraising. All told, about 2,000 people gave $25,000 or more to each candidate's various joint fundraising committees through September."

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/31364669.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUec7Pa P3E77K_0c::D3aDhUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU

[5.0_CJ]

DING DING DING DING

McCain fucked another woman (Cindy) while his WIFE was disabled due to a car wreck.

You were saying?

Do you just talk directly out of your ass? Can you not even bother to open up a google window to do some research before you embarrass yourself? He requested a divorce 8 months before he met the woman, *dated* her, and then his current wife finished the paperwork and finalized. McCain even acknowledges his biggest moral failure was not making that marriage work. Big fucking difference between that, and fucking a woman while your wife is dying of cancer - then lying about it in front of the entire country hundreds of times. But, this is your typical bullshit gpamp - If I make a point contrasting yours, you completely ignore the point and make a McCain jab. You're so narrow minded and predictable I'm embarrassed for you. Is this is when you ignore my point and stop posting in the thread? See, the funny thing for me and Zarathustra was even though he was politically misguided he was somewhat intelligent in his ability to talk politics - I could respect that. However, you're absolutely disgustingly terrible at talking politics, you're downright childish when it comes to discussions, you just want to do your drive bys, spread your baseless propaganda, insult people personally, and then disappear until you can find someone else you think will get you attention to post up. I am absolutely confident without any doubt that you're depth in political knowledge is nothing more than a google search. Now, if you remember I challenged you to a debate in person - debating politics is pretty much what I do - I'd like to see you in an actual debate so I can assess just how much you actually do know - because frankly, I'm certain you're misguided as hell and just basing your opinions off of rampant bias.

[gpamp]

Do you just talk directly out of your ass? Can you not even bother to open up a google window to do some research before you embarrass yourself? He requested a divorce 8 months before he met the woman, *dated* her, and then his current wife finished the paperwork and finalized. McCain even acknowledges his biggest moral failure was not making that marriage work. Big fucking difference between that, and fucking a woman while your wife is dying of cancer - then lying about it in front of the entire country hundreds of times. But, this is your typical bullshit gpamp - If I make a point contrasting yours, you completely ignore the point and make a McCain jab. You're so narrow minded and predictable I'm embarrassed for you. Is this is when you ignore my point and stop posting in the thread? See, the funny thing for me and Zarathustra was even though he was politically misguided he was somewhat intelligent in his ability to talk politics - I could respect that. However, you're absolutely disgustingly terrible at talking politics, you're downright childish when it comes to discussions, you just want to do your drive bys, spread your baseless propaganda, insult people personally, and then disappear until you can find someone else you think will get you attention to post up. I am absolutely confident without any doubt that you're depth in political knowledge is nothing more than a google search. Now, if you remember I challenged you to a debate in person - debating politics is pretty much what I do - I'd like to see you in an actual debate so I can assess just how much you actually do know - because frankly, I'm certain you're misguided as hell and just basing your opinions off of rampant bias.
The only thing I was wrong about, was that he wasn't fucking CINDY while he was still married (not separated) to Carol, his first wife. He has ADMITTED to having "extramarital affairs" upon coming home to the U.S. at that time.

A debate? In public? Are you serious? I guess by saying "I get 4 hours of sleep a night, because of jobs/obligations", you think I'm scared to debate, don't you? Nice. Throw it out there, knowing that it's idiotic to think anyone would take you up on it, that way, in the decline, you can claim some sort of retarded victory.

[5.0_CJ]

The only thing I was wrong about, was that he wasn't fucking CINDY while he was still married (not separated) to Carol, his first wife. He has ADMITTED to having "extramarital affairs" upon coming home to the U.S. at that time.

A debate? In public? Are you serious? I guess by saying "I get 4 hours of sleep a night, because of jobs/obligations", you think I'm scared to debate, don't you? Nice. Throw it out there, knowing that it's idiotic to think anyone would take you up on it, that way, in the decline, you can claim some sort of retarded victory.

The last time I asked you disappeared from the thread. Idiotic to think anyone would take me up on it? I think someone who is questioning their ability on politics might think it's idiotic, but you seemed pretty confident in this thread. I'm not in this for a victory, just in it to see how much knowledge of politics and how sound your beliefs are.

[72 El Camino]

Campaigning?


revamped jet made up to be similar to Air Force 1, with your personal "logo" all over it, maybe its just me but that way out does the other things listed so far. $500,000 buys a lot of clothing :)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

[Skidmark]

No it's not. lol

Glad you caught that, i was about to post something about it :p

[Vertnut]

The last time I asked you disappeared from the thread. Idiotic to think anyone would take me up on it? I think someone who is questioning their ability on politics might think it's idiotic, but you seemed pretty confident in this thread. I'm not in this for a victory, just in it to see how much knowledge of politics and how sound your beliefs are.
His knowledge of anything pertinent, would fit in a thimble; the rest is bullshit, just like his messiah, Barry. Smoke and mirrors and an empty suit.

[gpamp]

I like the portrait pained last night.

McCain compared Obama to Paris Hilton in an ad... then got her to be his VP.

[sonic03gt]

He selecter her because she's a reformer? That's extremely vague, if not a massive overstatement. The only part of that sentence that's verifiabley true, is the 2nd part. He ONLY picked her to get the far-religious-right (Pentecostals, etc), and if a few women who felt betrayed by the Democrats jumped on the Palin train, then bonus. But being that she doesn't even KNOW WHAT A VICE PRESIDENT DOES, I'm pretty sure he didn't select her because he thought she'd do a bang up job in the White House.

Okay... before you made this statement, I would have said you at least had some degree of common sense, but not now. John McCain is a Republican and therefore would already have the support of the "far-religious-right" over Obama by a wide, wide margin. If McCain felt the need to gain support in the religious circles, there are other potential running mates better suited.

And once again, you mention "... she doesn't even KNOW WHAT A VICE PRESIDENT DOES..." when Joe Biden himself said in the VP debate that the VP isn't the head of the Senate! WTF?!

One good thing will come out of Obama being elected; we'll all get to tell you "I told you so".

[gpamp]

Okay... before you made this statement, I would have said you at least had some degree of common sense, but not now. John McCain is a Republican and therefore would already have the support of the "far-religious-right" over Obama by a wide, wide margin. If McCain felt the need to gain support in the religious circles, there are other potential running mates better suited.

And once again, you mention "... she doesn't even KNOW WHAT A VICE PRESIDENT DOES..." when Joe Biden himself said in the VP debate that the VP isn't the head of the Senate! WTF?!

One good thing will come out of Obama being elected; we'll all get to tell you "I told you so".
It might possibly be drowned out by the "I told you so's" from the past 8 years.