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Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 10:13 AM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

AL P
10-20-2008, 10:16 AM
I'd still vote for him if he would run.

Mr Majestyk
10-20-2008, 10:24 AM
The only political endorsement I consider is whether the NRA backs one candidate versus another. I couldn't care less who Colin Powell, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, yada yada yada endorses.

Vertnut
10-20-2008, 10:27 AM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!
Actually, his vote pretty much nullified your list of "goodies" about him. His actions and words, pretty much tell the story of Powell and his politics. Sorry...

Denny
10-20-2008, 10:28 AM
I'd still vote for him if he would run.
Sucker!!!


I didn't endorse Powell last week on the weekly "I'm not a racist" thread. I did, however, say that I would vote for Alan Keyes. Actually, he'd be my choice over ANY person in the US right now. If he endorses Obama, as God as my witness, I'll vote for him too. That's how much trust I have in Keyes.

I better see his black ass on the 2012 Ballot!!! :mad:

Somewhere in Time
10-20-2008, 10:29 AM
Seems to me like you thrive on racial issues and jump at the chance to slam the white man. Maybe you are the one with the problem.

STANGGT40
10-20-2008, 10:29 AM
The only political endorsement I consider is whether the NRA backs one candidate versus another. I couldn't care less who Colin Powell, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, yada yada yada endorses.

did the nra endorse mccain? i don't know exactly where he stands on firearms, but i seem to remember him leaning a little left on that issue.

Sean88gt
10-20-2008, 10:30 AM
I never said anything either way:)

I'm either way on General Powell. I have huge respect for what the man has done, but I don't think he would make a good President. I don't understand how a guy can say he is a conservative and then go against what his core beliefs (or at least those of the party) to vote for someone.

I do think every bit of his decision is because of the Bush administration trying to screw him over.

STANGGT40
10-20-2008, 10:31 AM
btw, powell is the only character that the "W" movie seemed to portray as intelligent...everyone else were just a bunch of bumbling idiots, according to the movie.

Vertnut
10-20-2008, 10:31 AM
did the nra endorse mccain? i don't know exactly where he stands on firearms, but i seem to remember him leaning a little left on that issue.
Look into Obama and Biden's firearm histroy, and it will make you shudder. Biden was the originator of the "assault-weapons ban", that finally lapsed. You know the one that said a 15 round mag was "an assault weapon"? :confused: Obama fought (and voted) against many gun reform bills in Illinois.

STANGGT40
10-20-2008, 10:32 AM
Look into Obama and Biden's firearm histroy, and it will make you shudder. Biden was the originator of the "assault-weapons ban", that finally lapsed. You know the one that said a 15 round mag was "an assault weapon"? :confused: Obama fought (and voted) against many gun reform bills in Illinois.

oh, i knew about obama...i didn't even consider that the nra would even think of endorsing him.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 10:33 AM
No one party has all the answers. You have to vote for the best candidate. Last time I was Republican, this time I'm Dem. Choose the best candidate.

That is all.

Magnus
10-20-2008, 10:33 AM
I liked powell until i heard this. Not BECAUSE of this, but because it made me look further into the man. I guess you can say I liked him for the same reason most people like Obama: they only see the surface, and don't look past it.

After looking a little bit more into him, i woudl definately vote for him over Obama, but it's eerily apparent his endorsement is one out of spite. Maybe not race, but out of spite against republicans.

AL P
10-20-2008, 10:37 AM
Sucker!!!


I didn't endorse Powell last week on the weekly "I'm not a racist" thread. I did, however, say that I would vote for Alan Keyes. Actually, he'd be my choice over ANY person in the US right now. If he endorses Obama, as God as my witness, I'll vote for him too. That's how much trust I have in Keyes.

I better see his black ass on the 2012 Ballot!!! :mad:

I think he would have to run as a left leaning Republican if he did run. He's not liberal enough for the Dems.

Nate
10-20-2008, 10:38 AM
No one party has all the answers. You have to vote for the best candidate. Last time I was Republican, this time I'm Dem. Choose the best candidate.

That is all.
Why is he the best candidate for you? As an affluent man that makes good money it would seem you would be better off as voting for the other. I respect you and your opinion and am just curious to see as why he is the best candidate in your eyes.

Denny
10-20-2008, 10:41 AM
I think he would have to run as a left leaning Republican if he did run. He's not liberal enough for the Dems.
Keyes is nowhere NEAR the middle. He's Obama's negative.

Denny
10-20-2008, 10:42 AM
No one party has all the answers.
Not true.

Denny
10-20-2008, 10:44 AM
Last time I was Republican, this time I'm Dem. Choose the best candidate.

That is all.
That is NOT all. You just sold your moral values out for a "hope" that the economy MIGHT turn for the better. That is nowhere close to the end of that and you know better than most about what I'm talking about Jonathan. :mad:

Cartman
10-20-2008, 10:48 AM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

i noticed the same thing but we already know how most people think on here.

AL P
10-20-2008, 10:48 AM
Keyes is nowhere NEAR the middle. He's Obama's negative.

I was talking about Powell.

46Tbird
10-20-2008, 10:48 AM
I have no problem with him endorsing any candidate he wants to.



I respect Powell AND I disagree with his support of Obama. You think I agree with everything McCain stands for? LOL!!

thesource
10-20-2008, 10:49 AM
While I am sure some of his decision was based on race , I really don't think Powell is voting solely for that reason . He's an educated black man thats made his way through the ranks of the military and served under both Bush presidents . I'm sure he's a little pissed about how things turned out with the Bush boys and that probably had more to do with his decision than anything else . If a black person votes for Obama because they feel he's the best person running , great . In my opinion , I see most blacks voting for Obama simply because they feel they are going to be a part of something historical even if its not the right person for the job .

Notice I used the term blacks instead of the other word . Those other types will either not vote , can't vote or will without a doubt vote for Obama because he's black and no other reason .

I still have respect for both Powell and Rice . They are what all blacks should strive to be in life .

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 10:49 AM
Why is he the best candidate for you? As an affluent man that makes good money it would seem you would be better off as voting for the other. I respect you and your opinion and am just curious to see as why he is the best candidate in your eyes.

1.) I could give a crap about firearms
2.) His stance on abortion is pretty much the same as McCain's. That issue is deep but, it's not gonna determine why I vote for a candidate.
3.) His Health Care plan makes sense for me and my business and employees.
4.) I happen to be a small business owner that falls outside of his 95% when it comes to business earnings and I'm also way outside of that same % when it comes to personal as well but, I'm okay with that. The economy needs healing, there are people out there that are less fortunate than myself. The last point took alot of research on my part and in the end, because trust me when I say........I HATE PAYING THESE TAXES. Our personal taxes that wwe have to pay equals what 60% of people on this board make all year long. SO I HATE PAYING AT A 32% RATE. Thank God for good CPAs. :D
5) McCain is rash, Obama has a cool head.
6) Biden or Palin during a break glass in case of an emergency scenario? C'mon..........get real.

My decision is out of research and NOT about some stupid partly alignment that isn't bullet proof for running this country.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 10:51 AM
That is NOT all. You just sold your moral values out for a "hope" that the economy MIGHT turn for the better. That is nowhere close to the end of that and you know better than most about what I'm talking about Jonathan. :mad:

God will still be God, no matter what who is in office. The repulican conservative evangelical base is NOT the spiritual measuring stick in this nation.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 10:54 AM
Not true.

Unless, Jesus is running for President. No one has what's best for this country.

Neither candidate wants to change the definition of traditional marriage so I'm happy with that.

Who Needs 8
10-20-2008, 10:55 AM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

Funny how that works with a bunch of country bumpkin racists.

I will say this, for a "celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative", he sure did get screwed while in office and after leaving office by both the Bush Administration and the Republican party.

I'm not saying that had anything to do with his decision, but it did happen.

Nate
10-20-2008, 10:55 AM
1.) I could give a crap about firearms
2.) His stance on abortion is pretty much the same as McCain's. That issue is deep but, it's not gonna determine why I vote for a candidate.
3.) His Health Care plan makes sense for me and my business and employees.
4.) I happen to be a small business owner that falls outside of his 95% when it comes to business earnings and I'm also way outside of that same % when it comes to personal as well but, I'm okay with that. The economy needs healing, there are people out there that are less fortunate than myself. The last point took alot of research on my part and in the end, because trust me when I say........I HATE PAYING THESE TAXES. Our personal taxes that wwe have to pay equals what 60% of people on this board make all year long. SO I HATE PAYING AT A 32% RATE. Thank God for good CPAs. :D
5) McCain is rash, Obama has a cool head.
6) Biden or Palin during a break glass in case of an emergency scenario? C'mon..........get real.

My decision is out of research and NOT about some stupid partly alignment that isn't bullet proof for running this country.
I can respect that more than what I overheard this morning.

"I like what he sez and stuff over what the old white man said on his commerical"

Who Needs 8
10-20-2008, 10:55 AM
I'd still vote for him if he would run.

What if he ran as a Democrat?

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 10:56 AM
If all Blacks are voting just because we want to be apart of something Historic and not because Obama is the best candidate, then why wasn't Jesse Jackson one of our past Presidents?

Nate
10-20-2008, 10:59 AM
If all Blacks are voting just because we want to be apart of something Historic and not because Obama is the best candidate, then why wasn't Jesse Jackson one of our past Presidents?
Because Jesse Jackson is a complete utter moron with waaaaaaaaaaaay to much dirt on him that could not be deflected off. He would lose his cool and blow it months before the election and the Dem party would be scrambling to find a replacement candidate before the election.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:00 AM
Because Jesse Jackson is a complete utter moron with waaaaaaaaaaaay to much dirt on him that could not be deflected off. He would lose his cool and blow it months before the election and the Dem party would be scrambling to find a replacement candidate before the election.

So then Obama is a good candidate then? Did he make it this far because he's a good candidate or because he's Black?

BLAKE
10-20-2008, 11:00 AM
I'm going to do my best to post this in every thread where JC makes a comment based on race. I have a feeling he's going to be seeing it a lot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Auto_Racing_Black_White.svg/800px-Auto_Racing_Black_White.svg.png

hedkutter18
10-20-2008, 11:00 AM
If all Blacks are voting just because we want to be apart of something Historic and not because Obama is the best candidate, then why wasn't Jesse Jackson one of our past Presidents?

Cause he'd cut their nuts off.

Denny
10-20-2008, 11:01 AM
God will still be God, no matter what who is in office. The repulican conservative evangelical base is NOT the spiritual measuring stick in this nation.
Hey bro, it's your chioce to prioritize. I'm not going to pass judgement, but I am disappointed.

Nate
10-20-2008, 11:02 AM
So then Obama is a good candidate then? Did he make it this far because he's a good candidate or because he's Black?
I don't think either candidate is a good candidate currently. He is a better candidate than Jackson for sure. I have no idea how either of these guys got to be in this posistion. :o

Denny
10-20-2008, 11:03 AM
Unless, Jesus is running for President. No one has what's best for this country.

Neither candidate wants to change the definition of traditional marriage so I'm happy with that.
I was just waiting for a "Who?" as a response so I could say every party has all the answers, just not all of the right ones ;)

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:04 AM
Hey bro, it's your chioce to prioritize. I'm not going to pass judgement, but I am disappointed.

You can be disappointed but, I've been deep into the religious game longer than you. There are things that I FIRMLY believe and that you're missing. If you want to chat more indepth feel free to shoot me a PM and we'll talk.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:05 AM
I don't think either candidate is a good candidate currently. He is a better candidate than Jackson for sure. I have no idea how either of these guys got to be in this posistion. :o


And that's what happens. We have 2 to choose from whether we like it or not. Last time it was Bush and Gore. Choose the lesser of two evils.

Nate
10-20-2008, 11:07 AM
And that's what happens. We have 2 to choose from whether we like it or not. Last time it was Bush and Gore. Choose the lesser of two evils.
Kerry was in there too...

and yes they both suck. Hell I'm not to opposed to blowing up congress and starting over with logical people if we could as well.

Denny
10-20-2008, 11:09 AM
You can be disappointed but, I've been deep into the religious game longer than you. There are things that I FIRMLY believe and that you're missing. If you want to chat more indepth feel free to shoot me a PM and we'll talk.
No da way!

AL P
10-20-2008, 11:10 AM
What if he ran as a Democrat?

About as likely as monkeys flying out of my butt.

Sean88gt
10-20-2008, 11:10 AM
You can be disappointed but, I've been deep into the religious game longer than you. There are things that I FIRMLY believe and that you're missing. If you want to chat more indepth feel free to shoot me a PM and we'll talk.

Don't take this wrong, but I'd seek more spiritual guidance.

Obama is not a good person, he will take a country that is bent over gasping for air and take us to our knees.

People are hurting because of long standing policies that he believes in and preaches.

89gt-stanger
10-20-2008, 11:11 AM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

He had a very, very quick change of heart on which party he is with, and his reasons are that "Barack is energetic, yet calm enough to run this country, and that is why I'm voting for Barack Obama."

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:12 AM
Don't take this wrong, but I'd seek more spiritual guidance.



I always do. You can't question someone's spirituality simply over gray issues.

But Nov. is a ways off. Still more time for all people to be sure.

bcoop
10-20-2008, 11:13 AM
I have no idea how either of these guys got to be in this posistion. :o



It's because Obama is so smooth when delivering a steaming pile of bullshit, even he believes it.

TOMMY
10-20-2008, 11:19 AM
Peeks in...Yeah, JC vs. DFWstangs again.... :D

AL P
10-20-2008, 11:21 AM
It's because Obama is so smooth when delivering a steaming pile of bullshit, even he believes it.

I am very confident that if Obama is elected we will have test new lows in the approval rating of the president. We've certainly soared to new heights with our new Congress who haven't done a thing they said they were going to do.

Sean88gt
10-20-2008, 11:22 AM
I always do. You can't question someone's spirituality simply over gray issues.

But Nov. is a ways off. Still more time for all people to be sure.

I wasn't questioning your spirituality, just saying you need some serious prayer if you're throwing the nod to Obama. And I don't think the issues are so gray.

I also don't understand people that have to 'get to a conclusion.' I know what I believe. Everyday I wake up I know what I believe. My values are unchanging and unflappable and there is no way (regardless of party, race, etc) that I could cut against my own grain and vote for a candidate like Obama.

Then again, I'm not a black man, so I don't understand your plight.

JC, I ask this question out of seriousness. OJ, did he kill Ron and Nicolle or was it the Illuminati?

Sean88gt
10-20-2008, 11:24 AM
I am very confident that if Obama is elected we will have test new lows in the approval rating of the president. We've certainly soared to new heights with our new Congress who haven't done a thing they said they were going to do.
Imagine how bad they will be when Biden has to step in.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:24 AM
JC, I ask this question out of seriousness. OJ, did he kill Ron and Nicolle or was it the Illuminati?


The courts said he didn't do it. That used to be enough for people until a priveleged Black Man got set free. :p

Dangit, there I go being racist again.

AL P
10-20-2008, 11:25 AM
JC, I ask this question out of seriousness. OJ, did he kill Ron and Nicolle or was it the Illuminati?

It was Colonel Mustard with a candlestick...

thesource
10-20-2008, 11:31 AM
If all Blacks are voting just because we want to be apart of something Historic and not because Obama is the best candidate, then why wasn't Jesse Jackson one of our past Presidents?

I think J.J. is a little too extreme and cannot be polished like they have done with Obama . Make no mistake , if J.J was at some point in time the front runner like Obama is , I think just as many blacks would show up for him . Fortunately , he's not ........

I personally think that Obama has this in the bag but he will have the white women voters to thank and not the black community for putting him in the white house . I honestly doubt the black community will actually show up in force to make a significant difference in the race . Those who do show up will almost definitely vote for B.O except for the guy who called Obama's mama trash .

In the end , its going to probably come down to a couple of states that make the difference just like in the past two elections . I hope McCain gets the nod but we shall see .

thesource
10-20-2008, 11:33 AM
It's because Obama is so smooth when delivering a steaming pile of bullshit, even he believes it.

Clinton II in the making .......

bcoop
10-20-2008, 11:35 AM
It was Colonel Mustard with a candlestick...



In the laundry room.....

Sean88gt
10-20-2008, 11:35 AM
The courts said he didn't do it. That used to be enough for people until a priveleged Black Man got set free. :p

Dangit, there I go being racist again.
Take 'California' out of the equation and answer the question! :D

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:36 AM
Honestly, whoever is elected. The world will not end.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 11:37 AM
Take 'California' out of the equation and answer the question! :D


im jus sayin

thesource
10-20-2008, 11:50 AM
If Obama gets elected , I will personally hold Mike Ditka responsible . Fucker wouldn't take on for the team . Greedy white bastard ....

Denny
10-20-2008, 12:03 PM
Honestly, whoever is elected. The world will not end.
It might get thing rollin', though.

Monsoon X
10-20-2008, 12:07 PM
It might get thing rollin', though.


It's been rolling since Bush got in office. The Nation's of the world are set against us. Probably several seals were broken when we invaded Iraq. Won't know for sure, never will know for sure until the "End" is upon us.

line-em-up
10-20-2008, 12:25 PM
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Denny
10-20-2008, 12:28 PM
It's been rolling since Bush got in office. The Nation's of the world are set against us. Probably several seals were broken when we invaded Iraq. Won't know for sure, never will know for sure until the "End" is upon us.
We'll know at least 42 months out. That's for sure. Rapture? Now THAT'S the million dollar question!

jones4stangs
10-20-2008, 12:33 PM
Sucker!!!


I didn't endorse Powell last week on the weekly "I'm not a racist" thread. I did, however, say that I would vote for Alan Keyes. Actually, he'd be my choice over ANY person in the US right now. If he endorses Obama, as God as my witness, I'll vote for him too. That's how much trust I have in Keyes.

I better see his black ass on the 2012 Ballot!!! :mad:
http://www.alankeyes.com/

It looks like he is trying to get on the 2008 ballot as an Independent.

With the failure of leadership in the Republican Party, it’s time for a new beginning for principled conservatives. Please help Alan Keyes lay the groundwork for the revival in America of government of, by, and for the people!

Stevo
10-20-2008, 12:36 PM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

He decided to to go totally against his own political standings to endorse a fellow black man because he is black, what do you want everyone to say? He basically said in the Tom Brokaw interview. I am disappointed that someone I had held in such a standing would do this, but am glad to know now versus later. I guess voting strictly on skin color is acceptable after all.

Now just for you. I have noticed the last month an increase in your barrage of passive-aggressive attacks on whites, which after doing you then stand back and wait for everyone to come to your defense and say "oh you just don't know him, he's just joking around." It might have been cute the first 25 times or so, now it is just old. Get a new act.


Stevo

5.0_CJ
10-20-2008, 12:38 PM
............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

I just fundamentally don't understand how anyone who calls themselves a conservative could support the most liberal candidate ever. Either Powell isn't a conservative, or Obama isn't a liberal, and we all know what the truth is here.

Denny
10-20-2008, 12:40 PM
http://www.alankeyes.com/

It looks like he is trying to get on the 2008 ballot as an Independent.

With the failure of leadership in the Republican Party, it’s time for a new beginning for principled conservatives. Please help Alan Keyes lay the groundwork for the revival in America of government of, by, and for the people!
Right. The push is just a little too late. :( It's a shame too. I think he would give the office an honest effort.

big_tiger
10-20-2008, 01:04 PM
I just fundamentally don't understand how anyone who calls themselves a conservative could support the most liberal candidate ever. Either Powell isn't a conservative, or Obama isn't a liberal, and we all know what the truth is here.

I remembered they said the same thing about John Kerry. How could they say the same thing about Obama... oh wait Obama wasn't around four years ago. :rolleyes:

I wonder if we are going to trade Powell back to the blacks. :p

67camino
10-20-2008, 01:06 PM
I wonder if we are going to trade Powell back to the blacks. :p

Maybe will get Bill Clinton in return :D

thesource
10-20-2008, 01:11 PM
Regardless of who wins , I think this could get very ugly after the election is over . I hope the American people can put it behind them and unite under one leader , which ever person that might be but ...........

One thing is crystal clear , racism is alive and well in this country . I've received several messages on myspace calling me a racist and saying that the black community is going to paint the white house black in 2008 . The only thing I have even related to the election is a clip of Biden saying Obama was not ready to lead . I have not received a single comment from anyone else about the subject .

big_tiger
10-20-2008, 02:10 PM
Maybe will get Bill Clinton in return :D

I see I made your sig with that. Thanks. :p

bcoop
10-20-2008, 03:27 PM
I remembered they said the same thing about John Kerry. How could they say the same thing about Obama... oh wait Obama wasn't around four years ago. :rolleyes:




If you don't understand this, you might as well give up because there is no hope.


Obama WASN'T around 4 years ago, you fucking twit. He was when it comes to state politics. But he wasn't involved in Federal politics until his run for Senate. Jesus tap dancing Christ. :rolleyes:

jones4stangs
10-20-2008, 03:46 PM
The only political endorsement I consider is whether the NRA backs one candidate versus another. I couldn't care less who Colin Powell, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, yada yada yada endorses.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_pr/nra_mccain_2

WASHINGTON – The National Rifle Association is endorsing Republican presidential nominee John McCain. NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre announced the endorsement Thursday.

big_tiger
10-20-2008, 04:08 PM
If you don't understand this, you might as well give up because there is no hope.


Obama WASN'T around 4 years ago, you fucking twit. He was when it comes to state politics. But he wasn't involved in Federal politics until his run for Senate. Jesus tap dancing Christ. :rolleyes:

I hope that wasn't directed towrds me, because you are just adding to my post. I knew he wasn't around four years ago. But in three years he has became the most liberal voter in the senate. :p That was my point.

Vertnut
10-20-2008, 04:09 PM
If you don't understand this, you might as well give up because there is no hope.


Obama WASN'T around 4 years ago, you fucking twit. He was when it comes to state politics. But he wasn't involved in Federal politics until his run for Senate. Jesus tap dancing Christ. :rolleyes:
Really? Maybe it just seems longer than that since that's all I see when I turn the FRIGGING T.V. ON EVERY NIGHT! HOLY SHIT!

Mustangman_2000
10-20-2008, 08:55 PM
Powell disappointed a lot of conservatives with his endorsement of Obama. Being a lifelong Republican and a career military officer, there is no way in hell he has the same political views as Obama. Remember Obama is the most liberal Senator in the party. Like McCain said during one of the debates, it's difficult to reach that far across the aisle. Therefore, logic would dictate that Powell's decision was simply about race. That, and he probably feels like he was thrown under the bus by the Bush Admin. He's a great guy, but my god what a shallow course of action on his part.

I said in that racists thread that Alan Keyes would be someone that I would gladly vote for. He's very black and very conservative. And he's no charlatan either. Someone that actually has a value system and thinks society should follow suit. :eek:

Race in this election has been blown out of proportion to the point of absurdity. If Obama was a centrist Democrat he would probably get my vote. However, he is not. He is the most liberal politician in the Senate. He has a hard on for policy that oddly mirrors socialism. His predilection for associating with radicals (Ayers, Wright), but then only to sever ties with them when it becomes politically damning to his campaign. People labeling him the messiah?!?! Obama and his acolytes are creepy folks. End of story. No one that is reasonable can identify with that non-sense. That's why us crackers don't like Obama.

HookEm
10-20-2008, 09:04 PM
Powell is a RINO. Pro quotas, pro affirmative action, pro choice. Powell has never endorsed any Causcasian, liberal democrats...why the sudden desire to support a black Marxist?

And Limbaugh NAILED it:

I said, "Secretary Powell says this endorsement's not about race. Okay, fine. What I'm doing now Jonathan is researching Powell's past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal white candidates that he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with." Then the next paragraph I sent to Jonathan Martin of the Politico said, "As for Powell's statement of concern that he would have difficulty with two more Republican Supreme Court nominees, I was unaware that he had dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy, and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Ronald Reagan making him a four-star general. I guess he also regrets George Bush making him secretary of state. I guess he also regrets George H. W. Bush naming him chairman of the Joint Chiefs. I guess he's also upset that a Republican appointed his son to head the FCC. Yeah, let's hear it for transformational figures," because Powell had said Obama's a transformational figure, and yet Colin Powell is who he is and is a household name because of Republicans.

So I fired that off, and forgot about it. And the next thing I know, into my e-mail comes a Google alert. Martin got that thing up in five minutes and it's all over the Internet with Google and Drudge has linked to it. I hit the shower, got ready for the game, head down, got on the bus, head on over to Green Bay for the game. Apparently all hell is breaking loose and I'm not even aware of it because, of course, Jonathan said, "I really envy you, your Sundays." He said, "I had tickets to the Redskins game today but I can't go because of this Powell thing." I said, "Jonathan somebody has to enjoy life, and it's me, and don't worry, Jon, I'll cover you next week because I'm going to Pittsburgh next week for the Giants and then after that I'm going to Indianapolis for the Patriots. So I'll cheer for you, just tell me which teams you like." So we go to the game, a fabulous time at the game, and I picked the Packers in my little pool. Snerdley walked in today, I said, "How are you?" "Been better." I figured it was the Powell endorsement or something to do with the campaign. He's bent out of shape about the Cowboys. A lot of Cowboys fans are bent out of shape about the Cowboys.

At any rate, flew home after the game, I guess we rolled in at 10:45 or so, got into the house at 11:30. I still wasn't aware how much it had blown up. I did a little work when I went home, went up to bed, it was a long, taxing, exhausting day. I'll tell you, it is tough physically going to a football game. I can't imagine playing in one. I got home last night feeling like I had played in the game. So I got up this morning and talked to Cookie. Cookie says, "Okay, here's a preview of the sound bite roster," and, lo and behold, the media had a cow over this. Folks, I must have struck a nerve on this because everybody in the Drive-By Media has something snarky to say about my two little paragraphs to Jonathan Martin at The Politico regarding the Powell endorsement. Now, there's something else interesting -- I got one thing wrong. It was not a Republican that nominated his son, Michael Powell, to head the FCC. Michael Powell, by the way, has not only endorsed McCain, Colin Powell's son has endorsed McCain, he is campaigning for him. Colin Powell's son is debating Obama surrogates on communications issues. What actually happened was -- and this is even more fascinating -- what actually happened was, and my friend Professor Hazlett informed me of this, it was McCain who got Michael Powell appointed to the FCC by Clinton in order to forge a relationship with his father, Colin Powell, as was reported at the time.




............and I knew it. Last week some of you guys were praising Powell. Black man, Republican, member of Bush's first administration, "oh it's not about race" , "why can't a black conservative run"?

Here we have a celebrated, Republican, War hero, ex Bush cabinet member, Conservative. Admired by you guys only JUST last week. But instead of his decision being based off his making a good decision by stepping back to take a good look at each candidate AND their running mate and their proposed plans, he's just simply a nigger lover.

funny.


Flame on!

71chevellejohn
10-20-2008, 09:25 PM
I've received several messages on myspace calling me a racist and saying that the black community is going to paint the white house black in 2008 . The only thing I have even related to the election is a clip of Biden saying Obama was not ready to lead .

The people leaving comments like that after watching the clip on of Biden probably don't even know who Biden is. They are the same ones who Howard Stern had interviewed on the the streets of Harlem and said they were voting Obama even after being attributed with McCain's policies. The same group that thinks they are going to "win" something if Obama gets elected.

Ignorance is running rampant more than ever this election year.



Vote Bigfoot!!

mopar63
10-20-2008, 09:40 PM
No one party has all the answers. You have to vote for the best candidate. Last time I was Republican, this time I'm Dem. Choose the best candidate.

That is all.

Negative Ghost Rider.

bcoop
10-20-2008, 09:48 PM
I hope that wasn't directed towrds me, because you are just adding to my post. I knew he wasn't around four years ago. But in three years he has became the most liberal voter in the senate. :p That was my point.



I guess your post just struck me the wrong way, becuase I read it the opposite of the way you meant it.

Got5onIt
10-20-2008, 10:22 PM
Obama needs the support of whites to win the election. So what does that tell you? :confused:

Slowhand
10-20-2008, 10:26 PM
Sucker!!!


I didn't endorse Powell last week on the weekly "I'm not a racist" thread. I did, however, say that I would vote for Alan Keyes. Actually, he'd be my choice over ANY person in the US right now. If he endorses Obama, as God as my witness, I'll vote for him too. That's how much trust I have in Keyes.

I better see his black ass on the 2012 Ballot!!! :mad:

Thank God.

MonsoonX, you generally seem to have your head on straight, but you've just gone off the fucking deep end this week. My vote has SHIT to do with race. Hell, after I realized what a cook Ron Paul was, my support immediately shifted to Alan Keyes. Where does race play a part here?

You're missing the point that race isn't the issue; Obama is the issue. I don't care what color a motherfucker is, if he lends his support to Obama he's going to lose a shitton of credibility with me. Simple as that.

Got5onIt
10-20-2008, 10:33 PM
If none of you have figured it out by now, it's not a black, white, brown, red issue. It's all about one thing....the GREEN. How much green can the white collar criminal, known as our elected government officials, can steal from the unknowing working American people.