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Nate
09-22-2008, 08:28 AM
Very interesting...not surprising but interesting.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u16/nbh4112/ap_poll_race_america.jpg

Magnus
09-22-2008, 08:55 AM
You mean, black people AREN'T responsible for constantly portraying themselves negatively in their own movies/music videos/personal life?

bcoop
09-22-2008, 09:01 AM
You mean, black people AREN'T responsible for constantly portraying themselves negatively in their own movies/music videos/personal life?



Whitey held them at gunpoint and made them do it.

Magnus
09-22-2008, 09:08 AM
Unicorn held them at gunpoint and made them do it.
Fixed.

98COBRA#770
09-22-2008, 10:46 AM
Racism is VERY much a two way street how else can you explain a group of african
americans ganging up on a white without so much as a word being said. Yes racism is alive and well but not the typical it almost like it has been reversed.


Example:

Regenal Deny (I can't sp for shit)
The poor white girls in Oakland that where beat too death
The Jena 6 (oh yea it was one white boy no matter what he did)
just about any fight where the odds are one single white person and a group
of african americans the beating will follow unless it's a white cop.

I think that just under the surface we as a country will have too deal with this
issue and it will be ugly.

I am not racisis unless it's projected against me then yea I am. I am older than
most of you kids (I'm 42) so I grew up during the 70's & 80's so this is not new.

For those of you that think there is not a problem go too Oakcliff at midnight and
ask directions.

AL P
09-22-2008, 10:52 AM
Of course there is racism. More importantly though is that white people tend to view a lot of blacks as irresponsible. And rightfully so, there are many statistics to support it. Blacks tend to take that as racism when it is nothing more than reality biting them in the ass.

BreedLove
09-22-2008, 11:02 AM
Of course there is racism. More importantly though is that white people tend to view a lot of blacks as irresponsible. And rightfully so, there are many statistics to support it. Blacks tend to take that as racism when it is nothing more than reality biting them in the ass.
Ignorance my good man, it's called ignorance.

98COBRA#770
09-22-2008, 11:13 AM
I think the question is when will another civil war happen.

I figure just as soon as it gets going good we will see China invade and show
us we really had no problems.

Sean88gt
09-22-2008, 11:32 AM
Of course there is racism. More importantly though is that white people tend to view a lot of blacks as irresponsible. And rightfully so, there are many statistics to support it. Blacks tend to take that as racism when it is nothing more than reality biting them in the ass.

Your statistics are nothing but accurate stereotypes MAN!

So let me get this straight, this poll only asks about blacks and whites, do we no longer care for the beaners, gooks, ragheads, carpet riders, injuns, japs, kykes, wops, chinks, parakeets, bamboo coons, dune coons, big noses, pan faces, slant eyes, slopes, camel jockeys, cave niggers, bomb builders, clit choppers, ching chongs, coin slots, rice eaters, sleepwalkers, zipperheads, cheesers, ice niggers, chiggers, noodle niggers, harpoon chuckers, filthy pinos, frogs, border bunnies, cholos, dry-wallers, wet backs, taco benders, buttonheads, dot knots, slurpee jockeys, and lest we forgot the motherfucking micks, firecrotches, drunk white nigger Irish?

At least the blacks and whites have realized they are the only groups that matter;)

black01gt
09-22-2008, 12:15 PM
So let me get this straight, this poll only asks about blacks and whites, do we no longer care for the beaners, gooks, ragheads, carpet riders, injuns, japs, kykes, wops, chinks, parakeets, bamboo coons, dune coons, big noses, pan faces, slant eyes, slopes, camel jockeys, cave niggers, bomb builders, clit choppers, ching chongs, coin slots, rice eaters, sleepwalkers, zipperheads, cheesers, ice niggers, chiggers, noodle niggers, harpoon chuckers, filthy pinos, frogs, border bunnies, cholos, dry-wallers, wet backs, taco benders, buttonheads, dot knots, slurpee jockeys, and lest we forgot the motherfucking micks, firecrotches, drunk white nigger Irish?


You left out the Nipanese. Racist!

jones4stangs
09-22-2008, 12:29 PM
Very interesting...not surprising but interesting.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u16/nbh4112/ap_poll_race_america.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/elections/ap_poll_race_obama.jpg

46Tbird
09-22-2008, 12:41 PM
Self-proclaimed White Democrats must be pretty stupid.




















:D jk

We have some serious unresolved issues with regards to race. But hey, you can't completely blame whitey, look at the things that black culture idolizes in its media. It's not pretty.

Magnus
09-22-2008, 12:46 PM
I'm not being racist when i say this, but coming from a school that was right at %50 black, and only having %1 of the graduating with honors class being black, i don't think that "adjective" is an empty stereotype.

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2002/droppub_2001/

as far as drop out rates are concerned, as of 2000:
27.8 percent for Hispanics
13.1 percent for Blacks
6.9 percent for Whites

http://www.publicagenda.org/files/charts/ff_education_satrace.png.png
http://www.publicagenda.org/charts/sat-scores-race

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104716.html

Even with Hispanics being so much higher at risk of drop out, here are the unemployment numbers:

White
Total, 16 years and over 4.2%
Total, 16–19 years 12.7 14.5
Men, 20 years and over 3.7
Women, 20 years and over 3.6

Black
Total, 16 years and over 8.6
Total, 16–19 years 29.0
Men, 20 years and over 8.0%
Women, 20 years and over 7.0

Hispanic or Latino
Total, 16 years and over 6.6
Total, 16–19 years 17.7
Men, 20 years and over 5.2
Women, 20 years and over 6.6


If black people are tired of the "dumb, lazy" stereotype, maybe they should stop being "dumb and lazy".

FYI, i'm not being racist, these are statical numbers. I've never claimed that black people, or any other race was dumb as lazy. I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about how they are picked on for unjust reasons, when it seems like there is a little bit of truth in there somewhere.

Vertnut
09-22-2008, 12:48 PM
I think elections are seen by some white folks as "pay back time". We are still a silent majority. We take the blame for every fucking problem in societyand we pay most of the taxes. Every once in a while, the white folks bow their neck, and this may be one of those times.

jones4stangs
09-22-2008, 02:51 PM
If black people are tired of the "dumb, lazy" stereotype, maybe they should stop being "dumb and lazy".

FYI, i'm not being racist, these are statical numbers. I've never claimed that black people, or any other race was dumb as lazy. I'm just sick of hearing people bitch about how they are picked on for unjust reasons, when it seems like there is a little bit of truth in there somewhere.
Are you a little beyond first impressions? Sound more like you want to prove it to be true.

46Tbird
09-22-2008, 03:00 PM
How well do you think a person would test if they were half black, half asian?

Vertnut
09-22-2008, 03:01 PM
How well do you think a person would test if they were half black, half asian?
It depends on whether they live in Oak Cliff or Tokyo... ;)

Magnus
09-22-2008, 03:04 PM
Are you a little beyond first impressions? Sound more like you want to prove it to be true.
In case you can't figure it out, the statistics show you what first impression is being given off. When the majority of who you run across meets the same criteria, multiple first impressions begin to pile up.

Doesn't help that if you completely forget about assumptions, and rely on the facts. . . . well, the facts start to support the assumptions.

Sounds more like you're in denial of what's been statistically proven. I could care less what the skin color of an individual is. . . a lazy, dumb piece of shit is a lazy, dumb piece of shit.

How well do you think a person would test if they were half black, half asian?

They polled them too. Of course, since there was black in them, the person was called black, and not mixed. Just like Obama is black, and doesn't have a hint of anything else in him . . .

Mr Majestyk
09-22-2008, 03:07 PM
How well do you think a person would test if they were half black, half asian?

Or, what if they were half black, half white, and half messican?

AL P
09-22-2008, 03:14 PM
Are you a little beyond first impressions? Sound more like you want to prove it to be true.

You don't have to try hard to prove it, just look at statistics. A huge part of the problem is pop culture.

46Tbird
09-22-2008, 03:19 PM
Or, what if they were half black, half white, and half messican?
My dog says, "Sounds like good eatin."

jones4stangs
09-22-2008, 03:35 PM
In case you can't figure it out, the statistics show you what first impression is being given off. When the majority of who you run across meets the same criteria, multiple first impressions begin to pile up.

Doesn't help that if you completely forget about assumptions, and rely on the facts. . . . well, the facts start to support the assumptions.

Sounds more like you're in denial of what's been statistically proven. I could care less what the skin color of an individual is. . . a lazy, dumb piece of shit is a lazy, dumb piece of shit.

I'm in denial of what, that black people are lazy and dumb? You are the one who has drawn poor conclusions based on stereotypes and misinformation. If you think the majority of black people are lazy and dumb then you are the one ignoring facts.

Magnus
09-22-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm in denial of what, that black people are lazy and dumb? You are the one who has drawn poor conclusions based on stereotypes and misinformation. If you think the majority of black people are lazy and dumb then you are the one ignoring facts.
Proven statistics thrown in your face, and you accuse others of what you're doing.
Damn, that sounds like the race card black people love to play.

No one is saying that black people ARE lazy and dumb, we're showing you statistical proof that as a race in america, by percentage, they are the laziest and dumbest race currently attending US high schools and taking US SAT tests.

jones4stangs
09-22-2008, 04:18 PM
Proven statistics thrown in your face, and you accuse others of what you're doing.
Damn, that sounds like the race card black people love to play.

No one is saying that black people ARE lazy and dumb, we're showing you statistical proof that as a race in america, by percentage, they are the laziest and dumbest race currently attending US high schools and taking US SAT tests.
The things you posted don't claim to represent laziest or dumbest, but you want them used to prove laziness and dumbness.

They have lowest formal educations, sure. They are most likely to be unemployed, ok.

What SAT score makes a person dumb? According to your chart, the average black SAT score is 1291. UT Arlington requires a 1150 if your in the 3rd quarter of your hs class for admission. So, the average black student is smart enough to get in to UT Arlington, but black people are dumb?

What percentage of unemployment worthies a group to be called lazy? 8.6% unemployment for black people. So, 91.4% of employable black people are currently employed, but black people are lazy?

You don't have facts to prove your point. You have your opinions that show you've bought into incorrect stereotypes and not facts.


About 12% percent of the white people polled thought black people were lazy.
Thank goodness for that 88% of reasonable white people.

Magnus
09-22-2008, 04:25 PM
The things you posted don't claim to represent laziest or dumbest, but you want them used to prove laziness and dumbness.

They have lowest formal educations, sure. They are most likely to be unemployed, ok.

What SAT score makes a person dumb? According to your chart, the average black SAT score is 1291. UT Arlington requires a 1150 if your in the 3rd quarter of your hs class for admission. So, the average black student is smart enough to get in to UT Arlington, but black people are dumb?

What percentage of unemployment worthies a group to be called lazy? 8.6% unemployment for black people. So, 91.4% of employable black people are currently employed, but black people are lazy?

You don't have facts to prove your point. You have your opinions that show you've bought into incorrect stereotypes and not facts.


About 12% percent of the white people polled thought black people were lazy.
Thank goodness for that 88% of reasonable white people.
Swing, and a miss.

Nate
09-22-2008, 05:22 PM
What SAT score makes a person dumb? According to your chart, the average black SAT score is 1291. UT Arlington requires a 1150 if your in the 3rd quarter of your hs class for admission. So, the average black student is smart enough to get in to UT Arlington, but black people are dumb

Are you really not grasping the fact that SAT scores have changed from what used to be an 1150 of just two subjects is not the same as 1150 now. I scored an 1150 when it was only possible to get a 1600...that would be good enough to get into UTA and I wouldn't have had to take the third section...

UTA is a fucking joke don't use it as any sort of comparison of how hard/easy it is to get into to prove whether black people on average are or are not dumber etc.

Mustangman_2000
09-22-2008, 05:36 PM
Everything is a matter of perspective.

In my opinion people's perception of racism is proportional to how much they feel like a victim. The people that I have met that feel like they are being affected by institutional racism also feel like victims and complain about their lot in life.

Barriers only exist in the minds of lazy and unmotivated people.

Barrack Obama did pretty damn good being born from a hippy chick and a radical muslim growing up in humble surroundings. Guy has a degree from Harvard and is a candidate for President last time I checked. Oprah Winfrey is the wealthiest female entertainer on the planet. Whoopie gets paid a million dollars annually to tell Liz Hasselbeck that she and her live in two different worlds. She lives in a world of oppression and Hasselbeck lives in a world of privilege.

How these [black] people were able to flourish and succeed in our oppressive and stifling society is a miracle, I guess. I wonder if it has anything to do with ambition and toil.

This subject is trite and a complete waste of time.

Vertnut
09-22-2008, 06:20 PM
Everything is a matter of perspective.

In my opinion people's perception of racism is proportional to how much they feel like a victim. The people that I have met that feel like they are being affected by institutional racism also feel like victims and complain about their lot in life.

Barriers only exist in the minds of lazy and unmotivated people.

Barrack Obama did pretty damn good being born from a hippy chick and a radical muslim growing up in humble surroundings. Guy has a degree from Harvard and is a candidate for President last time I checked. Oprah Winfrey is the wealthiest female entertainer on the planet. Whoopie gets paid a million dollars annually to tell Liz Hasselbeck that she and her live in two different worlds. She lives in a world of oppression and Hasselbeck lives in a world of privilege.

How these [black] people were able to flourish and succeed in our oppressive and stifling society is a miracle, I guess. I wonder if it has anything to do with ambition and toil.

This subject is trite and a complete waste of time.
But...but...those aren't REAL black people... :cool: