Bond 22: Quantum of Solace

[talisman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4jY8WxcFMo


New trailer. First Bond movie to ever take up immediatly where the last one left off. Action looks top notch.

[poopnut2]

Looks good. Casino Royale was the shit so hopefully this will not disappoint either.

[BLAKE]

I can't fucking wait, I can't fucking wait, I can't fucking wait!


I dig on some bond, but 21 was an out of the park home run. This new brand of gritty, realistic Bond is a wonderful rejuvination of the brand. I want more. :)

This one will be an interesting change, as Casino Royale was the first book, and the film was a nice modern interpretation. This next one is entirely removed from Ian Flemming.

[talisman]

I can't fucking wait, I can't fucking wait, I can't fucking wait!


I dig on some bond, but 21 was an out of the park home run. This new brand of gritty, realistic Bond is a wonderful rejuvination of the brand. I want more. :)

This one will be an interesting change, as Casino Royale was the first book, and the film was a nice modern interpretation. This next one is entirely removed from Ian Flemming.



W3rd. I was very concerned because I thought Brosnan was the best Bond since Connery, but hell. New guy might even give old Sean a run for his money. It will take a few more films to decide, but the first one superceeded every expectation I had.

[momo stallion]

this movie looks good.

i like craig's bond better than brosnan. im not really fond of the proper brit image combined with corny jokes that brosnan offered.

[BLAKE]

W3rd. I was very concerned because I thought Brosnan was the best Bond since Connery, but hell. New guy might even give old Sean a run for his money. It will take a few more films to decide, but the first one superceeded every expectation I had.


I felt the same way, and really, Brosnan was perfect for that bond. I really liked most of those movies ( fucking Christmas Jones, nuclear scientist, right? :rolleyes: ). But this new version is something else entirely. Bond vs Bond, Craig would give Connery a good fight, he'd have Brosnan crying like a little bitch, and he'd have Moore wearing a skirt and lip gloss and calling him daddy.

Dalton doesn't rate, and poor George Lazenby didn't serve Her Majesty's Secret Service long enough to make the cut.

[Sean88gt]

Looks badass! I've always wanted to see a pissed off Bond.

[GE]

I wish they'd re-release everything in HD. heh.

[talisman]

Comes out tomorrow.

[Slowhand]

I heard a few things about a lack of the typical Bond plot and that apparently it's become a generic action flick with lots of good action but a terrible plot (i.e. no Q, No M). I can only hope that what I've heard is wrong.

[71chevellejohn]

I heard a few things about a lack of the typical Bond plot and that apparently it's become a generic action flick with lots of good action but a terrible plot (i.e. no Q, No M). I can only hope that what I've heard is wrong.

The last movie had M in it and the promos show M, so...

[talisman]

I heard a few things about a lack of the typical Bond plot and that apparently it's become a generic action flick with lots of good action but a terrible plot (i.e. no Q, No M). I can only hope that what I've heard is wrong.



M is all over the preview for the new one. The actor that played Q died shortly after Die Another Day was filmed(He was in 19 of the 20 first Bond movies that spanned 40 years). Unless they bring back John Cleese. Haven't checked the IMDb to see if he is credited in this, but I'm not sure he would fit with the new direction they've taken.

[bjtheman1]

Going to see this Saturday, can't wait. I liked Casino Royale alot. Craig does a great job as bond, he's more exciting to watch

[Vertnut]

Going to see this Saturday, can't wait. I liked Casino Royale alot. Craig does a great job as bond, he's more exciting to watch
I agree. To me (old guy), Sean Connery will always be Bond, but Craig is a close second. He portrays a "dark side" to Bond that the others struggled with.

[jluv]

Well, you can mark me down as the only person alive that doesn't like the new Bond bullshit.

My girl had never seen a Bond movie, and I hadn't yet seen Casino Royale, so we rented it this past weekend. I briefed her before the movie and explained that she was going to see some badass cars and a bunch of cool gadgets. The car scenes were cut very short. After he wrecked the Aston Martin, I was fully expecting an even cooler car chase scene somewhere later in the movie. And no Q? No gadgets whatsoever? The plot was lame and choppy. The main chick wasn't very hot (for a Bond girl). The villian was weak. I also prefer a diginified Bond over a dark Bond. Leave that dark shit to Batman. Just my opinion.

I'll wait and rent this newest one when it comes out on Bluray. If they don't bring back Q and the cool toys and badass car chase scenes, I'm going to give up.

[Sgt Beavis]

I just got back from seeing it. Fucking Greatness!

One other bonus, the new StarTrek trailer. That movie might actually be good..

[tenacious j]

Well, you can mark me down as the only person alive that doesn't like the new Bond bullshit.

My girl had never seen a Bond movie, and I hadn't yet seen Casino Royale, so we rented it this past weekend. I briefed her before the movie and explained that she was going to see some badass cars and a bunch of cool gadgets. The car scenes were cut very short. After he wrecked the Aston Martin, I was fully expecting an even cooler car chase scene somewhere later in the movie. And no Q? No gadgets whatsoever? The plot was lame and choppy. The main chick wasn't very hot (for a Bond girl). The villian was weak. I also prefer a diginified Bond over a dark Bond. Leave that dark shit to Batman. Just my opinion.

I'll wait and rent this newest one when it comes out on Bluray. If they don't bring back Q and the cool toys and badass car chase scenes, I'm going to give up.


well your obviously a faggot

[AL P]

well your obviously a faggot

He is, he loves the Cawknballs!!

[SVT Lurch]

Well, you can mark me down as the only person alive that doesn't like the new Bond bullshit.

My girl had never seen a Bond movie, and I hadn't yet seen Casino Royale, so we rented it this past weekend. I briefed her before the movie and explained that she was going to see some badass cars and a bunch of cool gadgets. The car scenes were cut very short. After he wrecked the Aston Martin, I was fully expecting an even cooler car chase scene somewhere later in the movie. And no Q? No gadgets whatsoever? The plot was lame and choppy. The main chick wasn't very hot (for a Bond girl). The villian was weak. I also prefer a diginified Bond over a dark Bond. Leave that dark shit to Batman. Just my opinion.

I'll wait and rent this newest one when it comes out on Bluray. If they don't bring back Q and the cool toys and badass car chase scenes, I'm going to give up.
Casino Royale didn't have Q because he "didn't exist yet". It was supposed to be the first one.

[talisman]

Well Jared, you will get your Aston Martin chase thirst quenched in the first 5 minutes of the new one. Some crazy as fuck crashes. I didn't like this one nearly as much as Casino Royale, but it was pretty good. Plenty of leftovers for the next one(James Bond Will Return ever present at the end of the credits) and a neat omage to Goldfinger with oil playing the part of gold. Some overly arsty editing made a couple of the action seques hard to follow. Daniel Craig reprises the role well.

[jakesford]

Casino Royale didn't have Q because he "didn't exist yet". It was supposed to be the first one.

I don't think everyone gets that... These movies are supposed to explain why bond is bond. Quantum finishes up the dark story telling part, and I think the next one will be more like the past movies. Instead of love and revenge, its back to meaningless killing and fucking :cool:

I have to admit Its different watching the newest ones after you are used to all the gadgets, and over the top villains with their plans of world domination... :o

[NTexas_V-Star]

So....it was good?

[talisman]

So....it was good?



I'll buy it when it comes out on DVD. I think I'm only missing 6 or 7 of them now.

[NTexas_V-Star]

Good enough for me, I guess I'll go see it early next week sometime.

[Sgt Beavis]

So....it was good?

Yea, very...

I rarely go to the movie theater these days because it is too much of a hassle. However this movie was totally worth it.

[oreos_stang3]

Yea, very...

I rarely go to the movie theater these days because it is too much of a hassle. However this movie was totally worth it.
i guess i will have to make an apperance and see it. it looked pretty good and bond is pretty kool. i still think moore was one of the better bonds though

[BLAKE]

I get to go see this tonight, finally!

I'm excited as hell. :)

[tenacious j]

i saw it monday. bad ass!! i didnt think any bond will ever be as cool as sean connery but i am rethinking that.

[BLAKE]

Yeah, so it was beyond fucking good.

I liked how everything with Bond and his girl situation was wrapped up all nice and tidy, so he can move on and kill/fuck like bond should from here on.

Nice callback to Goldfinger with the way Strawberry Fields got dealt with.

Car chase...boat chase...plane chase... success!

He's a bad mofo for sure. Can't wait for the next one. :D

[32VfromHell]

i really dont like how SPECTRE is now known as Quantum. I really would have dug the old school throwback to SPECTRE

[Barbie]

I thought Casino Royale was better

[IHaveAMustang]

I need to go back and watch Casino...I can't even remember what it was about other than he flipped some car down the highway.

But I am just a normal mindless drone, I will toss my money in the AMC money bucket and watch the movie and enjoy it like the drone I am.

[SY04Mustang]

saw it this weekend- it was a pretty good action flick, i agree that it was lacking a bit as far as the story line goes, but the action was bad ass.

[raider5.0]

I was upset at the plot, no gadgets,and no big bad villains

[STANGGT40]

as far as an action movie goes, it was pretty good in my opinion.

[jluv]

I was upset at the plot, no gadgets,and no big bad villains

That's what I hated about the first one. Made zero sense to me. I really like the old James Bond stuff, but Casino just seemed like a bunch of random, boring bullshit.

Anyone care to summarize what the heck happened in Casino Royale? Here's what I got:

Bond kills a dude that owes M money. Chases a guy with a bomb around on some buildings. There's a guy who cries blood and is obviously the villain, but why? What makes him bad or scary, and why the hell is Bond playing cards with him instead of just killing him if he's so bad? He bangs a hot chick with a horse and then fakes a relationship with an ugly broad (why?), and then she drowns.

Okay, I'll admit - I wasn't sober when I watched it. But I kept waiting for a badass car chase scene and some cool gadgets. Then the movie ended without delivering either. What I did see was a lot of really boring card games and some ugly broad talking to him in the corner.

Hopefully the new one is better! I'll wait to rent it though.

[71chevellejohn]

That's what I hated about the first one. Made zero sense to me. I really like the old James Bond stuff, but Casino just seemed like a bunch of random, boring bullshit.

Anyone care to summarize what the heck happened in Casino Royale? Here's what I got:

Bond kills a dude that owes M money. Chases a guy with a bomb around on some buildings. There's a guy who cries blood and is obviously the villain, but why? What makes him bad or scary, and why the hell is Bond playing cards with him instead of just killing him if he's so bad? He bangs a hot chick with a horse and then fakes a relationship with an ugly broad (why?), and then she drowns.

Okay, I'll admit - I wasn't sober when I watched it. But I kept waiting for a badass car chase scene and some cool gadgets. Then the movie ended without delivering either. What I did see was a lot of really boring card games and some ugly broad talking to him in the corner.

Hopefully the new one is better! I'll wait to rent it though.

You do know that Casino Royale is a prequel, right?
No Q branch= no gadgets


Here's the plot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)#Plot) - or you could watch it again and pay attention! :D


Oh, and the chick he fakes the relationship with is hot, IMO

[BLAKE]

That's what I hated about the first one. Made zero sense to me. I really like the old James Bond stuff, but Casino just seemed like a bunch of random, boring bullshit.

Anyone care to summarize what the heck happened in Casino Royale? Here's what I got:

Bond kills a dude that owes M money. Chases a guy with a bomb around on some buildings. There's a guy who cries blood and is obviously the villain, but why? What makes him bad or scary, and why the hell is Bond playing cards with him instead of just killing him if he's so bad? He bangs a hot chick with a horse and then fakes a relationship with an ugly broad (why?), and then she drowns.

Okay, I'll admit - I wasn't sober when I watched it. But I kept waiting for a badass car chase scene and some cool gadgets. Then the movie ended without delivering either. What I did see was a lot of really boring card games and some ugly broad talking to him in the corner.

Hopefully the new one is better! I'll wait to rent it though.

Yeah, you fucked that one up pretty bad homie. :D


Anyone care to summarize what the heck happened in Casino Royale?
Plot Summary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film))

There's a guy who cries blood and is obviously the villain, but why? What makes him bad or scary, and why the hell is Bond playing cards with him instead of just killing him if he's so bad?

Hoping that a defeat would force Le Chiffre to aid the British government in exchange for protection from his creditors, MI6 enters Bond into the tournament. Meaning, Le Chiffre is worth more alive than dead, but he's more useful as a desperate, crooked banker who's afraid of his client's retribution than he is a hostile prisoner or corpse.

He bangs a hot chick with a horse and then fakes a relationship with an ugly broad (why?), and then she drowns.

The relationship with Vesper is legit. This is the one and only time that Bond falls in love, and the emotional scar from her betrayal helps to make him the massogenist (sp?), calculated ass kicker/womanizer that he's always been. CR is the first book in the series, and sets up the character. There are intentionally no gadgets or anything in it.


Okay, I'll admit - I wasn't sober when I watched it. But I kept waiting for a badass car chase scene and some cool gadgets.

Then that might not have been the Bond for you. There are 20 other Bond flicks that have plenty of what you're talking about. I personally prefer this deeper version of Bond.

[jluv]

You do know that Casino Royale is a prequel, right?
No Q branch= no gadgets

Yes. I didn't know that before I watched it though.

Here's the plot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)#Plot) - or you could watch it again and pay attention! :D

Thanks. I'll go check that out. I was paying attention. I just think the movie was done poorly. Whatever "style" they were going for, I didn't dig it.


Oh, and the chick he fakes the relationship with is hot, IMO

Yuck.

[momo stallion]

well i watched it last night. i give it a rating of 'pretty good'

it has far too much high speed action. seems like daniel craig is constantly in a fight smashing crap up and getting bloody.

the main chick didnt do much for me either.

plot seemed strange. i'll give the plot another chance when it comes to dvd.

but still, action and violence = good.

[jluv]

Yeah, you fucked that one up pretty bad homie. :D

What, so I left out the part about the airplane almost being destroyed? lol

Oh, and he was poisoned! I remember! Even Wikipedia didn't mention that.

Other than that, I think my version was pretty much dead on. I could have done without any of the card playing bullshit.

I will say this - the Bluray disc I rented from Blockbuster froze up when Bond was talking to the ugly chick in the corner of the casino room between games, and I was forced to skip ahead. I totally missed him winning and also her being kidnapped. Perhaps more shit was tied together in that section that I missed.

Why would they want to work with the bloody eyed dude if he's so crooked? Was he supposed to lead them to more bad guys?

Reading that shit made a little more sense, but at the time of watching the flick, I had no idea who the guy in the bathroom was (other than Bond's first kill) and the guy in the desk was that he shot. I remember him saying something about owing M some money.


I think maybe the jist of what pissed me off in this flick was the lack of character development, or even solid identification. Look, a bad guy! Why's he bad? Why is he here? Doesn't matter, he's dead now! Let's play cards.

[BLAKE]

Other than that, I think my version was pretty much dead on.


Hahah, except for not knowing anything about the villain or that he wasn't faking the relationship with Vesper, yeah, you nailed it. lol


Why would they want to work with the bloody eyed dude if he's so crooked? Was he supposed to lead them to more bad guys?

Yes, Le Chiffre is not nearly as important as the bad guys he's connected to.


I will say this - the Bluray disc I rented from Blockbuster froze up when Bond was talking to the ugly chick in the corner of the casino room between games, and I was forced to skip ahead. I totally missed him winning and also her being kidnapped. Perhaps more shit was tied together in that section that I missed.

Well, that explains a lot. Also, I think you're being a little harsh on Vesper. I don't think she's the hottest thing in the world, but I sure wouldn't call her ugly. I think Batman has the market cornered on ugly love interests.

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/flickr/86/04/002432828604.jpg


Reading that shit made a little more sense, but at the time of watching the flick, I had no idea who the guy in the bathroom was (other than Bond's first kill) and the guy in the desk was that he shot. I remember him saying something about owing M some money.


It doesn't matter who those douches are, they aren't part of the main story, just setting up that they were Bond's first kills, which upgrade him to double O status.

[jluv]

Hahah, except for not knowing anything about the villain or that he wasn't faking the relationship with Vesper, yeah, you nailed it. lol.

That's just it. The fact that I didn't know much about the villain (or that he was even going to end up being the antagonist of the film until it was over) is the fault of the movie itself, or those who put it together. He was just some pansy with a leaky eye who didn't even seem interesting until it became obvious that there wouldn't be anyone more interesting than that.

I get that he fell in love with Vesper. But the "relationship" was faked from the beginning in front of the others in the casino. Was it not?

Yes, Le Chiffre is not nearly as important as the bad guys he's connected to.

Okay, well I can buy into that I guess. I definitely missed the part of the movie where it was explained who he was and why Bond was there to dick around with him. I mean, I know he was there to beat him in cards and take his money. I thought they said something about getting th money from him so he couldn't fund terrorists, which I thought was pretty weak and that Bond should have just killed him.


Well, that explains a lot. Also, I think you're being a little harsh on Vesper. I don't think she's the hottest thing in the world, but I sure wouldn't call her ugly. I think Batman has the market cornered on ugly love interests.

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/flickr/86/04/002432828604.jpg



Yes, that chick is way uglier than ol' Vespa.

It doesn't matter who those douches are, they aren't part of the main story, just setting up that they were Bond's first kills, which upgrade him to double O status.

I guess I would have appreciated it more if they had started back even further so I could know why he was killing those dudes in the first place.

[BLAKE]

That's just it. The fact that I didn't know much about the villain (or that he was even going to end up being the antagonist of the film until it was over) is the fault of the movie itself, or those who put it together.

Well, I would think it would be more fair to place the blame on a skipping blu ray disc and your mental state than the film makers.

Somebody liked it, and rotten tomatoes is a tough crowd:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/casino_royale/

[jluv]

Well, I would think it would be more fair to place the blame on a skipping blu ray disc and your mental state than the film makers.

Somebody liked it, and rotten tomatoes is a tough crowd:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/casino_royale/


Before the disc skipped, and even though I wasn't sober, I still think the ball was dropped when it came to identifying this guy as, or developing him into a solid villain. That's all.

Lots of folks liked it. But there aren't a whole lot of movies I get real excited about.

[talisman]

The chick that played Vespa and Maggie Gyllenhaal are both hot. You 2 turn in your man cards.

[BLAKE]

The chick that played Vespa and Maggie Gyllenhaal are both hot. You 2 turn in your man cards.


You've got to be kidding. Maggie looks like someone sculpted a hot chick out of wax and then left it out in the sun.

And there's nothing wrong with Vesper.

[jluv]

You are all fags.

[BLAKE]

You are all fags.

lol, ya got me there man.

[talisman]

Just bought it on DVD. I stand by my original assesment after rewatching it. Not as good as Casino Royale, but good and interesting nontheless.

[bjtheman1]

Just bought it on DVD. I stand by my original assesment after rewatching it. Not as good as Casino Royale, but good and interesting nontheless.


Agreed, it was good but not like the first one.