What does Obama really want to do?

[Tx Redneck]

http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm

[sc281_99-0135]

fucking hilarious.

[Tx Redneck]

13 views and no one will say anything. :confused:

Edit: Ninja posted before me.

[NITESTANG]

fuck them all... even the crowd favorite BUSH!!! thats who all the smart people voted for..lol

[sc281_99-0135]

how can a man that flip flops as much as this guy, and is stupid enough to flip flop all over the camera,

how the fuck havent the american people come to realize this guy for what he is???


i may not agree with mccain on all the issues, but i agree with obama on NONE of his!

[Pro88LX]

what a fucking idiot.

[krazy kris]

[QUOTE=Pro88LX]what a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE

your avatar is greatness

[big_tiger]

how can a man that flip flops as much as this guy, and is stupid enough to flip flop all over the camera,

how the fuck havent the american people come to realize this guy for what he is???


i may not agree with mccain on all the issues, but i agree with obama on NONE of his!


Must be the love the media has for him, lol.

http://www.johnmccain.com/video/love.htm

[line-em-up]

I didn't like him from the beginning and the more I see of him of him, the more I'm convinced of what a two faced tool he is.

[Slowhand]

I didn't like him from the beginning and the more I see of him of him, the more I'm convinced of what a two faced tool he is.

The man is the epitome of the modern day politician.

[Denny]

I'd take a 3rd Bush term before that mother fucker!

[gpamp]

So, sc281_99-0135, since flip-flopping is your pet peeve, what candidates have you backed? Because... I'll be honest, whoever you say, there are probably many flip-flops performed by said candidate. Whether it be McCain, Romney, Hillary, Romney, Giulianni, or Mit Romney.

You may as well stay home in November, if flipflopping is where you draw the line.

[sc281_99-0135]

So, sc281_99-0135, since flip-flopping is your pet peeve, what candidates have you backed? Because... I'll be honest, whoever you say, there are probably many flip-flops performed by said candidate. Whether it be McCain, Romney, Hillary, Romney, Giulianni, or Mit Romney.

You may as well stay home in November, if flipflopping is where you draw the line.


thats why i supported RON PAUL and to a lesser extent john edwards.

i dont give a shit what party you are from, just give your stance and stand by it.


i may think ur an idiot for cockgobbling obama like ya do, but at least ur consistently gobblin ze balls.

[bcoop]

but at least ur consistently gobblin ze balls.


LMGDAO!

[black01gt]

So, sc281_99-0135, since flip-flopping is your pet peeve, what candidates have you backed? Because... I'll be honest, whoever you say, there are probably many flip-flops performed by said candidate. Whether it be McCain, Romney, Hillary, Romney, Giulianni, or Mit Romney.

You may as well stay home in November, if flipflopping is where you draw the line.
I can name you a republican candidate that did not flip-flop one iota. He didn't need to. He wasn't just pandering and "hustling" votes.

yeah I know, "maybe he should have"...so he could be as much a flake as every other candidate. :rolleyes:

[gpamp]

You know... dispite insulting me, I absolutely respect Ron Paul and his supporters. If it were between him & Obama, I'd be a little more aprehensive until November. I didn't mention him, because I don't see him much lately.

[slow99]

You know... dispite insulting me, I absolutely respect Ron Paul and his supporters. If it were between him & Obama, I'd be a little more aprehensive until November. I didn't mention him, because I don't see him much lately.

Serious question...nothing more, nothing less. What is the extent of your exposure to Economics?

[gpamp]

Serious question...nothing more, nothing less. What is the extent of your exposure to Economics?
The same as the majority of Americans. I am an employed consumer.

Not sure of the range of your question.

[Denny]

i may think ur an idiot for cockgobbling obama like ya do, but at least ur consistently gobblin ze balls.
gpamp gets a beat-down from a dfwstangs member for the 34560387546th time!!!

Dammit boy!

[black01gt]

Serious question...nothing more, nothing less. What is the extent of your exposure to Economics?
How much exposure do you need, to know the current economic plans don't seem to be working too well?

[Taylor]

How much exposure do you need, to know the current economic plans don't seem to be working too well?

I think what he's getting at is what economic exposure you do need to know who can fix the economy and who cannot, and how to go about doing it.

Fact: A Democrat has never fixed the economy. Aside from moving to socialism/marxism (and that is not a fix), they can't.

[Denny]

The same as the majority of Americans. I am an employed consumer.

Not sure of the range of your question.
So is a drug dealer and a hooker. He's wanting to know if you've been exposed to studying economics systematically. Ya know, disecting the process, analyzing trends, speculating, putting ideas to work in the process, etc.

[bcoop]

[QUOTE=Denny]So is a drug dealer and a hooker. QUOTE]


Hookers and Blow: Economics 101 FTMFW!!!

[Denny]

I think what he's getting at is what economic exposure you do need to know who can fix the economy and who cannot, and how to go about doing it.

Fact: A Democrat has never fixed the economy. Aside from moving to socialism/marxism (and that is not a fix), they can't.
Anyone that really understands economics knows that a president doesn't change economy one way or the other. Now, the right combination of a presidential administration, congress, fed, etc. can have a BIG impact. Ultimately, though, it all falls on the disposition of the people as a whole. Guess what?


We ain't got no fix as of right now!

[gpamp]

So is a drug dealer and a hooker. He's wanting to know if you've been exposed to studying economics systematically. Ya know, disecting the process, analyzing trends, speculating, putting ideas to work in the process, etc.
Um... same as anyone here, I would imagine.

Now, I'm guessing you're just speaking for him, Denny. That may not be what he meant. So, I'll ask you... why do you want to know that? And what is your exposure to composing classical music?

[sc281_99-0135]

[QUOTE=Denny]So is a drug dealer and a hooker. QUOTE]


Hookers and Blow: Economics 101 FTMFW!!!


thats the fix the economy needs tax hookers and blow. then well cut the national debt out in no time :D

[slow99]

The same as the majority of Americans. I am an employed consumer.

Not sure of the range of your question.

Not much more range than that, was simply curious...that's all.

[gpamp]

Anyone that really understands economics knows that a president doesn't change economy one way or the other. Now, the right combination of a presidential administration, congress, fed, etc. can have a BIG impact. Ultimately, though, it all falls on the disposition of the people as a whole. Guess what?


We ain't got no fix as of right now!
I think most people know that the president, as one person, can't shift the economy one way or the other. But, a good presidential administration can build confidence in the market, therefore helping it to grow, even if it's a round-about way. It's a butterfly effect, as well.

Don't worry. I know that just because a timeline will show that our economy has blown for the past 8 years, and it just so happened that George W. Bush was president for the past 8 years, doesn't mean he made the economy go south.

But it'll sure look good in the history books. :D

[Denny]

Um... same as anyone here, I would imagine.

Now, I'm guessing you're just speaking for him, Denny. That may not be what he meant. So, I'll ask you... why do you want to know that? And what is your exposure to composing classical music?
Seeing that I'm only 32, anything I've composed isn't "classical" now, is it?

He wants to know because your opinions seem to be going against the grain. slow99 is a very intelligent person and he is very open-minded. That being said, one of his characteristics that have lead him to where he is, is to disect something to the point where it either makes complete sense or is absolutely wrong. People like that don't settle for much less, if any.

[Taylor]

Don't worry. I know that just because a timeline will show that our economy has blown for the past 8 years, and it just so happened that George W. Bush was president for the past 8 years, doesn't mean he made the economy go south.

But it'll sure look good in the history books. :D

For once I'm going to have to agree. Just like Clinton took credit for the economy in the 90s.

[Denny]

I think most people know that the president, as one person, can't shift the economy one way or the other. But, a good presidential administration can build confidence in the market, therefore helping it to grow, even if it's a round-about way. It's a butterfly effect, as well.

Don't worry. I know that just because a timeline will show that our economy has blown for the past 8 years, and it just so happened that George W. Bush was president for the past 8 years, doesn't mean he made the economy go south.

But it'll sure look good in the history books. :D
If you think that the economy's down-swing, which did happen to start about 8 years ago, was the direct result of the Bush Administration, then your opinions of the economy are going to be shit, real quick. Besides, the Clinton Administration went on cruise control LONG before he left office. Then it followed a delayed unsure election process, which led to the beginning of the Bush Administration. More things happened during the Bush Administration that was a direct result of the Clinton Administration's short-comings, nay, neglegence, than any other administration had to address with urgency since WWII.

[gpamp]

More things happened during the Bush Administration that was a direct result of the Clinton Administration's short-comings, nay, neglegence, than any other administration had to address with urgency since WWII.
So... Bush's approval rating is because of Clinton?

*snicker*

[Denny]

So... Bush's approval rating is because of Clinton?

*snicker*
Are you even reading these posts?!?! God, I swear you're the dumbest dumbass of all these dumbasses on this dumbass board!

Bush's approval rating was earned by Bush, himself. Basically for his efforts (or lack thereof) in addressing shit that should have been taken care of by the previous administration.

[black01gt]

Bush's approval rating was earned by Bush, himself. Basically for his efforts (or lack thereof) in addressing shit that should have been taken care of by the previous administration.
Numero uno for me:
"Osama Bin Laden, Dead or Alive!" It can't be that difficult but he makes it look impossible. Tough talk when you can't back it up only leads to embarrassment. :o

[Denny]

Numero uno for me:
"Osama Bin Laden, Dead or Alive!" It can't be that difficult but he makes it look impossible. Tough talk when you can't back it up only leads to embarrassment. :o
At least he has taken proactive steps to do the job, unlike Clinton...

CIA: "I got him in the cross hairs, can I take the shot?"

Clinton: "Uhhhh, no, nawwww... I have a better idea. I think we need to wait for the RIGHT time."

CIA: ???

Clinton: "Dude, you know what I mean."

[slow99]

Numero uno for me:
"Osama Bin Laden, Dead or Alive!" It can't be that difficult but he makes it look impossible. Tough talk when you can't back it up only leads to embarrassment. :o

Way to perfectly make Denny's point.
Jesus, I'm going to bed.

[gpamp]

At least he has taken proactive steps to do the job, unlike Clinton...

CIA: "I got him in the cross hairs, can I take the shot?"

Clinton: "Uhhhh, no, nawwww... I have a better idea. I think we need to wait for the RIGHT time."

CIA: ???

Clinton: "Dude, you know what I mean."
So... you're saying Clinton knew about 9/11, and wanted it to happen??

OMG!

Denny = Officially a Right Wing nutjob.

[Denny]

So... you're saying Clinton knew about 9/11, and wanted it to happen??

OMG!

Denny = Officially a Right Wing nutjob.
Once again, do you even read what the fuck I'm trying to tell you?!?! No wonder your daddy gave up on you.

[Denny]

Way to perfectly make Denny's point.
Jesus, I'm going to bed.
ROTFLMMFGDAO!!!!!!!!!!

[black01gt]

Way to perfectly make Denny's point.
Jesus, I'm going to bed.
So that's, uh...4 presidential terms now that we've been "making points'. Somebody just kill the motherfucker already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've given up on his head on a stick. I'll settle for a picture with blood. Lots of blood! We have unsettled business. :cool:

[Denny]

So that's, uh...4 presidential terms now that we've been "making points'. Somebody just kill the motherfucker already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've given up on his head on a stick. I'll settle for a picture with blood. Lots of blood! We have unsettled business. :cool:
If it was allowed, and I had access to government funding with no questions asked, I'd do it personally and would donate ther reward to some sort of fallen soldier fund... or at least die trying.

There's too much shit someone would get if that was to be attempted, though. Mostly from Congress, of course. Like I've said before... I'm going to do as much as I can to help the effort since no one is allowed to take it in their own hands and run with it.

[Sean88gt]

The same as the majority of Americans. I am an employed consumer.

Not sure of the range of your question.

I don't think you're giving small business peeps their due.

Gpamp, is Obama a contradicting flip flopper that only has consistency when changing his position?

[Fox466]

This thread is an excellent representation of the total lack of comprehension that is gpamp. It's still relatively short and has several posts that can't be described as anything but highlights.

And Black01, seriously. If you think finding a needle in a haystack comprised of several thousand square miles of the most inhospitable terrain on Earth, riddled with caves and tunnels is easy, please do step up to lead the expedition. Based on your comments you should be able to get it wrapped up within, say, a week or so?

[gpamp]

I don't think you're giving small business peeps their due.

Gpamp, is Obama a contradicting flip flopper that only has consistency when changing his position?
Actually, I'm employed by a small business.

Your loaded question blows. And you should ask yourself the same of McCain.

[mustangguy289]

I keep hearing that he wants to change things.

[gpamp]

This thread is an excellent representation of the total lack of comprehension that is gpamp. It's still relatively short and has several posts that can't be described as anything but highlights.
Your statement, like most others you post, is asinine. This post proves that you're techniques of throwing out generalizations without acknowledging one actual word said by the person you're attempting to box in, are getting tiresome.

You can't discount everything someone says just by ignoring the bulk of it, and saying "nu uh."

[Sean88gt]

Actually, I'm employed by a small business.

Your loaded question blows. And you should ask yourself the same of McCain.

Answer the question and quit avoiding them.

McCain disgusts me on a lot of issues, but he does have some level of consistency. I have seen him soften on issues that require the conservative vote but not go through a complete ideological transformation like Obama has to reposition himself towards center.

[Sean88gt]

Your statement, like most others you post, is asinine. This post proves that you're techniques of throwing out generalizations without acknowledging one actual word said by the person you're attempting to box in, are getting tiresome.

You can't discount everything someone says just by ignoring the bulk of it, and saying "nu uh."

You do the same by never answering questions and constantly acting on the defense about your Messiah.

[bcoop]

Your statement, like most others you post, is asinine. This post proves that you're techniques of throwing out generalizations without acknowledging one actual word said by the person you're attempting to box in, are getting tiresome.

You can't discount everything someone says just by ignoring the bulk of it, and saying "nu uh."

Oh, really? Why not?


That's what you've done here.

So... Bush's approval rating is because of Clinton?

*snicker*


and here

So... you're saying Clinton knew about 9/11, and wanted it to happen??

OMG!

Denny = Officially a Right Wing nutjob.


ESPECIALLY here, this is word for word what you're telling him he can't do.

I just read this:

"Who hasn't screwed a goat? Where I come from, it's the same thing as tossin' horse shoes. We'd screw goats, and if they squealed, we'd gut them with our knives. In honor of the Dark Lord, of course." -John McCain 1996

And now it's on the internet, so it MUST be true!! Again!!!

and here


I mean... I read that passage twice, and didn't see where "black racism... it's a good thing" summed it up, at ALL. And in high school and college, I may have really sucked at the math portion of any test, I always did great on the reading comprehension parts.


and here

Haha. You totally discredited my post! You're a genius! :rolleyes:


That's just from the last few days. Would you like me to keep going?

[gpamp]

Answer the question and quit avoiding them.

McCain disgusts me on a lot of issues, but he does have some level of consistency. I have seen him soften on issues that require the conservative vote but not go through a complete ideological transformation like Obama has to reposition himself towards center.
You're fucking kidding me.

Number one, your question blows. It's a loaded question, that allows you to 90Notch-it and say "ANSWER THE QUESTION!! YOU'RE AVOIDING!!"

Secondly, John McCain is slowly becoming "conservative" to make consveratives like you, happy. He FLIP FLOPPED. Not "softened". The fact that you came up with the word "soften" to replace "flip flop" is a form of justification. The rose-colored conservative glasses you're wearing, came up with that word.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9111.html

[Sean88gt]

You're fucking kidding me.

Number one, your question blows. It's a loaded question, that allows you to 90Notch-it and say "ANSWER THE QUESTION!! YOU'RE AVOIDING!!"

Secondly, John McCain is slowly becoming "conservative" to make consveratives like you, happy. He FLIP FLOPPED. Not "softened". The fact that you came up with the word "soften" to replace "flip flop" is a form of justification. The rose-colored conservative glasses you're wearing, came up with that word.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9111.html

Sorry Kitten, The republicans don't espouse my believes in a lot of cases. I'm not justifying anything. McCain hasn't out and out dropped his ideals to appease anyone. He still has 'conservatives' outraged at how central he is.

Obama went from 'Fuck America!' to 'Hey, can't we all just get along and make this place better for Us?'

Are you a US Citizen, Gpamp?

[gpamp]

Sorry Kitten, The republicans don't espouse my believes in a lot of cases. I'm not justifying anything. McCain hasn't out and out dropped his ideals to appease anyone. He still has 'conservatives' outraged at how central he is.

Obama went from 'Fuck America!' to 'Hey, can't we all just get along and make this place better for Us?'

Are you a US Citizen, Gpamp?
I'm sorry... show me where Obama has said "Fuck America". I'm lost. I mean, sure you can tell me that because he said __________, I, Sean88gt, feel that he's said "Fuck America", but that don't make it so, Joe.

[black01gt]

If it was allowed, and I had access to government funding with no questions asked, I'd do it personally and would donate ther reward to some sort of fallen soldier fund... or at least die trying.

There's too much shit someone would get if that was to be attempted, though. Mostly from Congress, of course. Like I've said before... I'm going to do as much as I can to help the effort since no one is allowed to take it in their own hands and run with it.
Are you saying that even this retarded congress would have a problem with pulverizing Bin Laden et al? I don't think so. They're pretty worthless but they're not stupid enough to try and protect and prevent revenge on that scurge. It's not like it would start some shit with extreme muslims. It's been started and ongoing. Fuck em (up).

I've NEVER felt that we needed permission from anybody to get him. We just didn't...get him. OK Clinton let him go...so did Bush at Tora Bora. I don't buy the "well he was hiding in caves" bullshit. They can watch me scratch my ass from outer space if they want to. And I don't care for blame at this point or looking backwards. It's waaaay past time and would offer up some very positive results. Like I've said, it would have been better and more positive results in 01/02, but it needs to be done. I'm afraid the p.o.s. will die of natural causes....

[Denny]

Are you saying that even this retarded congress would have a problem with pulverizing Bin Laden et al? I don't think so. They're pretty worthless but they're not stupid enough to try and protect and prevent revenge on that scurge. It's not like it would start some shit with extreme muslims. It's been started and ongoing. Fuck em (up).

I've NEVER felt that we needed permission from anybody to get him. We just didn't...get him. OK Clinton let him go...so did Bush at Tora Bora. I don't buy the "well he was hiding in caves" bullshit. They can watch me scratch my ass from outer space if they want to. And I don't care for blame at this point or looking backwards. It's waaaay past time and would offer up some very positive results. Like I've said, it would have been better and more positive results in 01/02, but it needs to be done. I'm afraid the p.o.s. will die of natural causes....
That's exactly what I'm saying. They'd rather have him out there than Bush have his victory... I shit you not.

[Vertnut]

That's exactly what I'm saying. They'd rather have him out there than Bush have his victory... I shit you not.
If they find Osama before November, Obama is sunk. Mark my words.

[black01gt]

That's exactly what I'm saying. They'd rather have him out there than Bush have his victory... I shit you not.
9-11 + OBL's picture on Rotten.com with his eyeballs hanging out = Victory for THE USA. (not the dems, not the repubs but fucking America!!!)

[black01gt]

If they find Osama before November, Obama is sunk. Mark my words.
Oh what a great campaign tactic.... :rolleyes:

(that's sarcasm)

[bcoop]

Are you saying that even this retarded congress would have a problem with pulverizing Bin Laden et al?


Of course they would. It helps the Dem stance, that Bush didn't do what he set out to do, therefore getting a Dem in the oval office is the answer.

QUOTE=black01gt] They can watch me scratch my ass from outer space if they want to. [/QUOTE]


To me, this COMPLETELY contradicts what you are saying in your entire post. In fact, it PROVES your very first sentence.

I happen to agree. They can hone in on you scratching your ass if they wanted to, so why hasn't he been found?

Most American's have lost touch with the hurt, anger, passion, and Patriotism that 9/11 envoked. It's no secret. Look around. Why in the hell would the Dems support Bush reaching his goal, when their goal is to get a Dem in the oval office? IMHO, they'd do everything in their power to prevent it, and help Obama's chances.

[Vertnut]

Oh what a great campaign tactic.... :rolleyes:

(that's sarcasm)
In 2004, there were some folks who thought they (Reps) were ready to arrest Osama right before the election to cinch GW's victory...

[Paladin]

Are you saying that even this retarded congress would have a problem with pulverizing Bin Laden et al? I don't think so. They're pretty worthless but they're not stupid enough to try and protect and prevent revenge on that scurge. It's not like it would start some shit with extreme muslims. It's been started and ongoing. Fuck em (up).

I've NEVER felt that we needed permission from anybody to get him. We just didn't...get him. OK Clinton let him go...so did Bush at Tora Bora. I don't buy the "well he was hiding in caves" bullshit. They can watch me scratch my ass from outer space if they want to. And I don't care for blame at this point or looking backwards. It's waaaay past time and would offer up some very positive results. Like I've said, it would have been better and more positive results in 01/02, but it needs to be done. I'm afraid the p.o.s. will die of natural causes....

Let me join the ever growing list of people who think Bin Laden not getting caught is exactly what the dems want. You are way too biased in your Bush-hating if you can't see they benefit by him not being caught.

[black01gt]

Most American's have lost touch with the hurt, anger, passion, and Patriotism that 9/11 envoked. It's no secret. Look around. Why in the hell would the Dems support Bush reaching his goal, when their goal is to get a Dem in the oval office? IMHO, they'd do everything in their power to prevent it, and help Obama's chances.
If Bush's goal was/is to capture OBL and avenge America for 9-11, he's fucked that up nine ways out of 10.

[Denny]

9-11 + OBL's picture on Rotten.com with his eyeballs hanging out = Victory for THE USA. (not the dems, not the repubs but fucking America!!!)
I see it that way, you see it that way, most see it that way... the fucktards in Congress don't.

[black01gt]

Let me join the ever growing list of people who think Bin Laden not getting caught is exactly what the dems want. You are way too biased in your Bush-hating if you can't see they benefit by him not being caught.
OK...so what was happening the first 6 or 7 years since 9-11 before it becomes a 2008 campaign issue? We should have been done talking about 9-11 and OBL 5 years ago.

"Paladin, Paladin Where do you roam?
Paladin, Paladin, Far, far from home." :D

[bcoop]

If Bush's goal was/is to capture OBL and avenge America for 9-11, he's fucked that up nine ways out of 10.


I completely agree. What about the rest of what I said, though?

[Sean88gt]

I'm sorry... show me where Obama has said "Fuck America". I'm lost. I mean, sure you can tell me that because he said __________, I, Sean88gt, feel that he's said "Fuck America", but that don't make it so, Joe.

You really are Literal Larry. In your case, I'm pro-abortion.

[Casper]

how can a man that flip flops as much as this guy, and is stupid enough to flip flop all over the camera,

how the fuck havent the american people come to realize this guy for what he is???


i may not agree with mccain on all the issues, but i agree with obama on NONE of his!

Because Americans love an underdog, and will drop them as soon as they get to the top. The election is a few months away, McCain has to make some good choices or Obama won't be in kicking mode until January.

[Paladin]

OK...so what was happening the first 6 or 7 years since 9-11 before it becomes a 2008 campaign issue? We should have been done talking about 9-11 and OBL 5 years ago.

"Paladin, Paladin Where do you roam?
Paladin, Paladin, Far, far from home." :D

The borders being still open and OBL being alive are the two biggest areas I have serious problems with Bush about, no doubt.

[black01gt]

I completely agree. What about the rest of what I said, though?
OK...sorry...been busy finding food...bring back to cave. make$ wife happy.

Alright
Brent sez the dems don't want OBL caught or killed:
Of course they would. It helps the Dem stance, that Bush didn't do what he set out to do, therefore getting a Dem in the oval office is the answer.

QUOTE=black01gt] They can watch me scratch my ass from outer space if they want to. [/QUOTE]

To me, this COMPLETELY contradicts what you are saying in your entire post. In fact, it PROVES your very first sentence.

I happen to agree. They can hone in on you scratching your ass if they wanted to, so why hasn't he been found?

They're pretty goofy but the notion that the democratic party wants to prevent the capture of OBL is ridiculous. The notion that they have the power to prevent such a capture is ridiculous. If they did somehow have said power they would fuck it up. He HAS been found (come on, if the whole fucking world has known for years now that he's been along Afgan/Pakistan border regions like he was when we had him surrounded I have to believe Dubya and Dick have known also...maybe not?). Question is why hasn't he been captured? I have strong opinions about that but I'm gonna spare pages of horseshit argument and keep it to myself. It wouldn't be anything that I haven't posted numerous times before. I will say that in the past nor currently it has nothing to do with the democratic party. I'll say again, If Bush's intent really was to capture or kill OBL he shouldn't admit it because it is proof of how inept he and Dick actually are as "war time" leader$.

Honestly something I didn't see coming after 9-11 was the concerned conservative men of America losing focus on the persuit of OBL. What happened to allow him to be an American 2008 political campaign ploy? 4 terms now and going on 5. FUCKING SICK!!! :mad:

Not sure if I've answered your question. Not even sure of what your question was but there's a stab at it.