Cheney's been workin' overtime...

[Zarathustra]

I thought they had something up their sleeve...

Who else has noted all the ramping up of wartime rhetoric lately? Seems like they've linked every anti-American policy or anti-Israeli viewpoint or struggle in the middle east to Tehran, now all that needs to happen is some event that causes a loss of american lives. 63 monkeys could get together and bomb an airport or something, and they'd still blame it on Tehran.

I'll bet Cheney's just scratching for a catalyst, like he hasn't made enough money and gained enough power by the current clusterfuck.

Linkopolis (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/040907_cheney_orders.htm)

"It will be heavy sustained assault on the airwaves, designed to knock public sentiment into a position from which a war can be maintained. Evidently they don’t think they’ll ever get majority support for this—they want something like 35-40 percent support, which in their book is “plenty.”

Rubin subsequently confirmed with a second source that the propaganda coup had been launched and the individual, another top Neo-Con at a major think tank, had this to say about it: “I am a Republican. I am a conservative. But I’m not a raging lunatic. This is lunatic.”

On August 1st, 2005 the American Conservative reported that Cheney had tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan involved a massive air strike on Iran which included the use of nuclear weapons.

The publication reported that, "The response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States," meaning that any such attack will immediately be blamed on Iran and any evidence to the contrary will be buried.

[Zarathustra]

The U.S. government is openly funding and supporting the activities of Jundullah, a Sunni Al-Qaeda terrorist group formerly headed by the alleged mastermind of 9/11, to carry out bombings in Iran and destabilize Ahmadinejad's power base

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[HookEm]

<TABLE class="infobox biography vcard" style="FONT-SIZE: 95%; WIDTH: 22em; TEXT-ALIGN: left" cellSpacing=5><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.25em; PADDING-TOP: 4pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" colSpan=2>Alex Jones is your source? What a joke.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/AlexJones.jpg/200px-AlexJones.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AlexJones.jpg)


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February 11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_11), 1974 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974) (1974-02-11) (age 34)
Dallas, Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas%2C_Texas), U.S. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)</TD></TR><TR><TH style="PADDING-RIGHT: 1em; PADDING-LEFT: 0.2em; FONT-SIZE: 90%; BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.2em; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2em; PADDING-TOP: 0.2em; TEXT-ALIGN: left">Occupation</TH><TD class="" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.2em; PADDING-LEFT: 0.2em; FONT-SIZE: 90%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.2em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.3em; PADDING-TOP: 0.2em">Radio host (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio), television host (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_host), film producer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_producer)</TD></TR><TR><TH style="PADDING-RIGHT: 1em; PADDING-LEFT: 0.2em; FONT-SIZE: 90%; BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.2em; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2em; PADDING-TOP: 0.2em; TEXT-ALIGN: left">Spouse</TH><TD class="" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.2em; PADDING-LEFT: 0.2em; FONT-SIZE: 90%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.2em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.3em; PADDING-TOP: 0.2em">Violet Nichols</TD></TR><TR><TD class="" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.2em; PADDING-LEFT: 0.2em; FONT-SIZE: 90%; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.2em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.3em; PADDING-TOP: 0.2em; TEXT-ALIGN: center" colSpan=2>Website
InfoWars.com (http://infowars.com/)
PrisonPlanet.com (http://prisonplanet.com/)
InfoWars.net (http://infowars.net/)
PrisonPlanet.tv (http://prisonplanet.tv/)
The Jones Report (http://jonesreport.com/)
TruthNews.us (http://truthnews.us/)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Zarathustra]

That guy is a bad ass. He's got the nuts to fight back against the machine of global corporate fascism. He's got more willpower in his little finger that you have in your whole body.

Not to mention he'd crush your pansy ass in an argument in his sleep.

[HookEm]

He's as credible as The Onion.

That guy is a bad ass. He's got the nuts to fight back against the machine of global corporate fascism. He's got more willpower in his little finger that you have in your whole body.

Not to mention he'd crush your pansy ass in an argument in his sleep.

[Slowhand]

That guy is a bad ass. He's got the nuts to fight back against the machine of global corporate fascism. He's got more willpower in his little finger that you have in your whole body.

Not to mention he'd crush your pansy ass in an argument in his sleep.

i'm giggling like a little school girl :D

[Zarathustra]

He's as credible as The Onion.

Horseshit.

You and I both know that's not true.

Oh, and good job misquoting Einstien.

He would have laughed at people like you.

[Zarathustra]

i'm giggling like a little school girl :D

You are a little school girl... :D

[Slowhand]

You are a little school girl... :D

this is true. i guess it fits.

[red93coupe]

That guy is a bad ass. He's got the nuts to fight back against the machine of global corporate fascism. He's got more willpower in his little finger that you have in your whole body.

Not to mention he'd crush your pansy ass in an argument in his sleep.


So is EVERYTHING the government does self-serving and morally deplorable? Are ALL of our leaders (elected, I'll remind you) out to fuck us over? Is it all just an evil plot? Are the Arab nations really good, and we are the root of the worlds evil?

prisonplanet.com - are you seriously posting shit from the stinky asshole of the internet as a reference point?

You are the nuttiest fucking guy ever! I don't know you, but I would literally punch your face in if I saw you if only to save just one more person from your special brand of crazy. Crazy ass tin-foil warrior....amazing.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

[Pro Trash]

That guy is a bad ass. He's got the nuts to fight back against the machine of global corporate fascism. He's got more willpower in his little finger that you have in your whole body.

Not to mention he'd crush your pansy ass in an argument in his sleep.

Seriously this is a guy who wants to rebuild the pervert church in Waco you the Davidians, he bashes Marines, yeah he is so bad ass that in 2000 when he was to run for election to the House of Representatives District 48 here in Texas he withdrew before the Spring Primaries. He is really not very bad ass.

[Vertnut]

Alex Jones makes "The Inquirer" look like the Wall Street Journal...

[HookEm]

Whether it's his connection to the Christian Identity movement, his belief that Koresh was a peaceful guy, or his claims that we did 911, or his ridiculous Y2K crap...the guy is a first class tool

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9365/jones3cb7.gif

[Zarathustra]

So is EVERYTHING the government does self-serving and morally deplorable? Are ALL of our leaders (elected, I'll remind you) out to fuck us over? Is it all just an evil plot? Are the Arab nations really good, and we are the root of the worlds evil?

prisonplanet.com - are you seriously posting shit from the stinky asshole of the internet as a reference point?

You are the nuttiest fucking guy ever! I don't know you, but I would literally punch your face in if I saw you if only to save just one more person from your special brand of crazy. Crazy ass tin-foil warrior....amazing.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase "World Trade Center conspiracy" and you'll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.

Huh. Wonder why?


This is all I had to read to throw out this Hearst publishing inspired heap of garbage.

Do you know what Hearst publishing Corp. is?

Are your eyes open right now?

Are you mentally retarded?

[Zarathustra]

The only reason AJ is so widely persecuted is because everyone knows in their gut that he's right. We're just too scared about the consequences that would come from such an unearthing of the truth. You show weakness and ignorance, among other things in your reluctance to hear what the guy has to say.

Why not just go on about your lives and ignore the guy, and dismiss him as a lunatic? Too damn easy, you guys just take the easy way out...

Not me.

[Zarathustra]

Can someone acknowledge the arguments instead of attacking me and my sources?

I know its possible.

If the guy's such a lunatic, refute HIS arguments.

If the shit he says is so ludicrous, don't dismiss it, come up with reasons why it's ludicrous.

I challenge you, all.

[HookEm]

"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

George Sylvester Viereck, "What Life Means to Einstein", The Saturday Evening Post, 26 October 1929.

Einstein was also Jewish. You would have wanted him in Auschwitz.

Horseshit.

You and I both know that's not true.

Oh, and good job misquoting Einstien.

He would have laughed at people like you.

[Vertnut]

"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

George Sylvester Viereck, "What Life Means to Einstein", The Saturday Evening Post, 26 October 1929.

Einstein was also Jewish. You would have wanted him in Auschwitz.
Damn good find...

[Zarathustra]

"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene....No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

George Sylvester Viereck, "What Life Means to Einstein", The Saturday Evening Post, 26 October 1929.

Einstein was also Jewish. You would have wanted him in Auschwitz.


You're so right, GeneralizeEm, I don't know how you do it.

I know the truth about Einstein, you've apparently been fed a line of bullshit by your preacher or some such other waste of space. Continue thinking that Einstein embraced christ as his savior and believed in your god and I'll keep knowing you're wrong.

[Vertnut]

You're so right, GeneralizeEm

I know the truth about Einstein, you've apparently been fed a line of bullshit by your preacher or some such other waste of space. Continue thinking that Einstein embraced christ as his savior and I'll keep knowing you're wrong.
I'm beginning to think you don't know shit. At least admit when you've been busted. The man busted your ass...

[Zarathustra]

I'm beginning to think you don't know shit. At least admit when you've been busted. The man busted your ass...

What??!?

hahahahahaa

[Zarathustra]

HookEm thinks he saw GOD!!! He thinks Jesus will one of these days drop out of the clouds and lift him underneath the arms and ascend with him to heaven.

This is not what Einstein meant.

This should explain

At this point the host tried to silence him by invoking the fact that even Einstein harbored religious beliefs. "It isn't possible!" the skeptical guest said, turning to Einstein to ask if he was, in fact, religious. "Yes, you can call it that," Einstein replied calmly. "Try and penetrate with our limited means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible laws and connections, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To that extent I am, in fact, religious."

Strikingly NOT the contemporary conception and interpretation of God.

Very different, in fact.

[HookEm]

Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p. 214)


In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)

[Zarathustra]

This is the full quote that GeneralizeEm posted. Missing the first sentence.

You accept the historical existence of Jesus? "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

[Zarathustra]

Do you believe in God? "I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."

Is this a Jewish concept of God? "I am a determinist. I do not believe in free will. Jews believe in free will. They believe that man shapes his own life. I reject that doctrine. In that respect I am not a Jew."

Again, strikingly different from your delusion.

[red93coupe]

Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase "World Trade Center conspiracy" and you'll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.

Huh. Wonder why?


This is all I had to read to throw out this Hearst publishing inspired heap of garbage.

Do you know what Hearst publishing Corp. is?

Are your eyes open right now?

Are you mentally retarded?

you didn't answer my question.

[Zarathustra]

Einstein tried to express these feelings clearly, both for himself and all of those who wanted a simple answer from him about his faith. So in the summer of 1930, amid his sailing and ruminations in Caputh, he composed a credo, "What I Believe," that he recorded for a human-rights group and later published. It concluded with an explanation of what he meant when he called himself religious: "The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man."

This most certainly does not say he believes in your God.

[HookEm]

Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish. ~Albert Einstein


"Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God.
It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
Albert Einstein

Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.

Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot

The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer.

[Zarathustra]

This is me winning this argument, you ready for this?

Directly from Einstein's mouth:

When asked if he believed in God in a telegram this is what he replied:

"I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals himself in the lawful harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."

[Zarathustra]

Some religious Jews reacted by pointing out that Spinoza had been excommunicated from Amsterdam's Jewish community for holding these beliefs, and that he had also been condemned by the Catholic Church. "Cardinal O'Connell would have done well had he not attacked the Einstein theory," said one Bronx rabbi. "Einstein would have done better had he not proclaimed his nonbelief in a God who is concerned with fates and actions of individuals. Both have handed down dicta outside their jurisdiction."

[Zarathustra]

But there was one religious concept, Einstein went on to say, that science could not accept: a deity who could meddle at whim in the events of his creation.

[Zarathustra]

"The main source of the present-day conflicts between the spheres of religion and of science lies in this concept of a personal God," he argued.

[Zarathustra]

His belief in causal determinism was incompatible with the concept of human free will. Jewish as well as Christian theologians have generally believed that people are responsible for their actions. They are even free to choose, as happens in the Bible, to disobey God's commandments, despite the fact that this seems to conflict with a belief that God is all knowing and all powerful.

[HookEm]

In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views

[Zarathustra]

And for the icing on the cake and a huge-handed slap to one whole side of your head,

For some people, miracles serve as evidence of God's existence. For Einstein it was the absence of miracles that reflected divine providence. The fact that the world was comprehensible, that it followed laws, was worthy of awe.

[HookEm]

I see you changed your sig.
Pwn3d.




His belief in causal determinism was incompatible with the concept of human free will. Jewish as well as Christian theologians have generally believed that people are responsible for their actions. They are even free to choose, as happens in the Bible, to disobey God's commandments, despite the fact that this seems to conflict with a belief that God is all knowing and all powerful.

[Zarathustra]

This is me winning this argument, you ready for this?

Directly from Einstein's mouth:

When asked if he believed in God in a telegram this is what he replied:

"I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals himself in the lawful harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."

[Zarathustra]

You.

Are.

Wrong.

Deal with it.

Einstein was a Deist, not a theist like yourself.

Translation: you lose.

[HookEm]

Reading is fundamental. You've been slapped around so many times, it appears you enjoy it.



And for the icing on the cake and a huge-handed slap to one whole side of your head,

For some people, miracles serve as evidence of God's existence. For Einstein it was the absence of miracles that reflected divine providence. The fact that the world was comprehensible, that it followed laws, was worthy of awe.

[HookEm]

Go stuff a taco, fuzzy.
You're doing precisely what he said makes him angry.
And, why did you change your sig?


You.

Are.

Wrong.

Deal with it.

Einstein was a Deist, not a theist like yourself.

Translation: you lose.

[Zarathustra]

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaaahahahahahahahahahaha

Again, after losing yet ANOTHER argument, you resort to talking about my restaurant

I changed my sig way before this argument happened. A looong time before you tried to lump his thoughts in with yours.

I have since proven you wrong, and now you won't be able to quote him as an agreeable in your quest for affirming your faith. You are truly a sad, sad man.

On a side note, you know where I can get some good cocaine?

[TexasDevilDog]

I go this far and no farther.

Cheney Orders Media To Sell Attack On Iran


You think Cheney can order the media around. :rolleyes:

[Slowhand]

On a side note, you know where I can get some good cocaine?

1982.

[Zarathustra]

Damn, I'm on a roll the last couple days...

I'll never forget this thread.

[Zarathustra]

I go this far and no farther.



You think Cheney can order the media around. :rolleyes:

They're all his friends. Rupert Murdoch owns Fox News AND The Wall Street Journal.

Of course, he's fuckin Dick Cheney, he's got all the money in the world to do with whatever he chooses.

I know you're not THAT naive...

[HookEm]

You think Alex Jones is a good source.

You OBVIOUSLY can't read Engrish.

You've been beaten up worse than a Ranger pitching staff after a trip to NY, but you still want more.

It's sad, really. Taco slingers are usually 15-19 years old, or illegal.




Oh...and it isn't YOUR taco stand. It's your PARENTS taco stand. Just because you clean the floors doesnt mean you own it.

[Zarathustra]

You think Alex Jones is a good source.

You OBVIOUSLY can't read Engrish.

You've been beaten up worse than a Ranger pitching staff after a trip to NY, but you still want more.

It's sad, really. Taco slingers are usually 15-19 years old, or illegal.



Or they own it, and make 3 times your annual income in one quarter.

You think Einstein was a christian. You obviously can't read the bible.

It's sadder really, Cocaine users are usually 19-24 years old, or black.

[Zarathustra]

Wez Canz ALL GeneralizEmz!!

[HookEm]

But, I thought YOU owned it?
Caught in your own lie, kid.
Again, after losing yet ANOTHER argument, you resort to talking about my restaurant

Now, as to your RACIAL PROFILING comment, it's usually affluent, lates 20s early thirties whities. You suck at racial profiling.

Freaking liar. Sad.

Or they own it, and make 3 times your annual income in one quarter.

You think Einstein was a christian. You obviously can't read the bible.

It's sadder really, Cocaine users are usually 19-24 years old, or black.

[Slowhand]

It's sadder really, Cocaine users are usually 19-24 years old, or black.

Crack Cocaine and Cocaine are very different things.

Rich, affluent white people in the limelight use cocaine. It's the 80's celeb thing to do.

[Zarathustra]

But, I thought YOU owned it?
Caught in your own lie, kid.


Now, as to your RACIAL PROFILING comment, it's usually affluent, lates 20s early thirties whities. You suck at racial profiling.

Freaking liar. Sad.

It's OUR restaurant, collectively, we all put in our dues, and likewise all reap the benefits. You only wish you have what I do.

Are you justifying your cocaine use?

[Zarathustra]

And, good job changing the subject after getting your ass handed to you in yet ANOTHER argument.

[Slowhand]

And, good job changing the subject after getting your ass handed to you in yet ANOTHER argument.

no one handed anyone an ass in this argument; you both did succeed, however, in making asses of yourselves...again.

[Zarathustra]

Then your comprehension skills are of the same level of worth as GeneralizeEm's.

Now that you're the sole measure of who wins an argument...

Please...

Shouldn't you be in bed? This is a school night!

[HookEm]

http://www.lostwackys.com/images/original-series/16th/ram-a-liar-16.jpg

[Zarathustra]

This is YOUR brain on yuour drug of choice, cocaine

Explains ALOT!

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/phd/PHD293/brain-activity-and-cocaine-use-~-54093.JPG

[HookEm]

At least I can spell your.......

This is YOUR brain on yuour drug of choice, cocaine

Explains ALOT!

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/phd/PHD293/brain-activity-and-cocaine-use-~-54093.JPG

[mikeb]

I'm beginning to think you don't know shit. At least admit when you've been busted. The man busted your ass...

Believe me, zara knows shit quite well.

[Zarathustra]

Believe me, zara knows his shit quite well.

Thanks buddy, I knew you'd come around.

[Zarathustra]

At least I can spell your.......

I hope you learned something from this thread.

It will probably be around for a while, so you can read through it more than once.

[Pro Trash]

I hope you learned something from this thread.

It will probably be around for a while, so you can read through it more than once.

You are so wise that you can google anything? Seriously get over yourself and start citing your work and stop acting as if you come up with this on your own. You can google but that is all you are is an essential google machine.

http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/EinsteinGodReligionScience.ht

[Pro Trash]

Einstein tried to express these feelings clearly, both for himself and all of those who wanted a simple answer from him about his faith. So in the summer of 1930, amid his sailing and ruminations in Caputh, he composed a credo, "What I Believe," that he recorded for a human-rights group and later published. It concluded with an explanation of what he meant when he called himself religious: "The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man."

This most certainly does not say he believes in your God.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607298,00.html, go down about 26 paragraphs and bam the exact comment. I will no longer give you an ounce of credit for ideas until you start citing your work and crediting those who did the actual work. Stop plagiarizing please.

[Zarathustra]

You are so wise that you can google anything? Seriously get over yourself and start citing your work and stop acting as if you come up with this on your own. You can google but that is all you are is an essential google machine.

http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/EinsteinGodReligionScience.ht


In an argument like that, one in which I knew I was right, but just had to prove it to him, I have to have visual aids. It's a consequence of the medium through which we communicate, google's just the first thing that comes up. In fact, GeneralizeEm was perusing the same webpage with a dialog between Einstein and a reporter or some such other interlocutor, and he was only picking the (weak) lines out that would support his limp dick argument.

Einstein needed defending, and I came to his rescue.

The difference here is that I actually know and understand what Einstein actually meant, not just me--a LOT of people.

Check this out, this is what Richard Dawkins has to say in The God Delusion:

"Much unfortunate confusion is caused by failure to distinguish what can be called Einsteinian religion from supernatural religion. Einstein sometimes invoked the name of God (and he is not the only atheistic scientist to do so), inciting misunderstanding by supernaturalists eager to understand and claim so illustrious a thinker as their own".


He's doing the same thing with Darwin in his sig

GeneralizeEm tried to lump him in with his ilk in search of affirmation for his quandaries about life and inability to come up with his own answers. I couldn't let that happen, Einstein was a profoundly religious person, but he absolutely did not believe in the God that most everybody does today.

See what I'm saying?

By the way, where do you get your information?

[Zarathustra]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607298,00.html, go down about 26 paragraphs and bam the exact comment. I will no longer give you an ounce of credit for ideas until you start citing your work and crediting those who did the actual work. Stop plagiarizing please.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That post better for ya'?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wasn't

I figured it was common sense that all that shit was copied and pasted. I was just trying to prove a point. And I did.

What, did you think I made all that up?

[Pro Trash]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That post better for ya'?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wasn't

I figured it was common sense that all that shit was copied and pasted. I was just trying to prove a point. And I did.

What, did you think I made all that up?

Nope but you did not provide any references and made little or no use of quotation marks. I mean for a highly evolved educated person such as yourself even you comprehend the courtesy of giving credit for ones work, correct?

[Zarathustra]

I will no longer give you an ounce of credit for ideas until you start citing your work and crediting those who did the actual work. Stop plagiarizing please.

So you'll only give me credit for ideas if they come from somewhere else, and you have proof of them coming from somewhere else?

Doesn't make sense...

I like to be a little more original than that.

Sounds like the teacher in you is coming out. Aren't you a teacher?

Most of what I type in here comes right off the top of my head, I'd say 70-80%. I post up articles sometimes, like everybody else, so every one can comment, or talk shit about the subject as it turns out at times.

[Zarathustra]

Nope but you did not provide any references and made little or no use of quotation marks. I mean for a highly evolved educated person such as yourself even you comprehend the courtesy of giving credit for ones work, correct?

I usually do, thanks. This isn't a scholastic paper, or anything education oriented, not for me at least. I'm rattling off on my laptop, I'm sorry if I miss a few quotes now and then. Good investigative work by the way, Sheriff.

[Pro Trash]

I usually do, thanks. This isn't a scholastic paper, or anything education oriented, not for me at least. I'm rattling off on my laptop, I'm sorry if I miss a few quotes now and then. Good investigative work by the way, Sheriff.

Remember if you can read this thank a teacher.

[Zarathustra]

Remember if you can read this thank a teacher.

Are you not one yourself?

You think you could maybe respond to my questions in the other posts? I'm not trying to be a dick but I'm just thinking, or posting, I guess, faster than you.

I guess I could just copy and paste one question at a time, But I don't have time for that, at least not right now, I'm about to drop in on a local bar.

[HookEm]

No, I just wanted to force you to change your sig. I made a bet with someone that I could do it in less than an hr: I won.

Thanks for playing.




In an argument like that, one in which I knew I was right, but just had to prove it to him, I have to have visual aids. It's a consequence of the medium through which we communicate, google's just the first thing that comes up. In fact, GeneralizeEm was perusing the same webpage with a dialog between Einstein and a reporter or some such other interlocutor, and he was only picking the (weak) lines out that would support his limp dick argument.

Einstein needed defending, and I came to his rescue.

The difference here is that I actually know and understand what Einstein actually meant, not just me--a LOT of people.

Check this out, this is what Richard Dawkins has to say in The God Delusion:

"Much unfortunate confusion is caused by failure to distinguish what can be called Einsteinian religion from supernatural religion. Einstein sometimes invoked the name of God (and he is not the only atheistic scientist to do so), inciting misunderstanding by supernaturalists eager to understand and claim so illustrious a thinker as their own".


He's doing the same thing with Darwin in his sig

GeneralizeEm tried to lump him in with his ilk in search of affirmation for his quandaries about life and inability to come up with his own answers. I couldn't let that happen, Einstein was a profoundly religious person, but he absolutely did not believe in the God that most everybody does today.

See what I'm saying?

By the way, where do you get your information?

[HookEm]

Excellent find, PT.

This kid lies like a rug.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607298,00.html, go down about 26 paragraphs and bam the exact comment. I will no longer give you an ounce of credit for ideas until you start citing your work and crediting those who did the actual work. Stop plagiarizing please.

[Zarathustra]

No, I just wanted to force you to change your sig. I made a bet with someone that I could do it in less than an hr: I won.

Thanks for playing.

And I'm the liar?

[HookEm]

And I'm the liar?



PT busted you in a BLATANT plagarism, and you busted yourself with the "I own it...oops, my parents own it" nonsense.

Liar.

[Zarathustra]

PT busted you in a BLATANT plagarism, and you busted yourself with the "I own it...oops, my parents own it" nonsense.

Liar.

My family owns it, we're all one entity. Is that so hard for you to understand?

You were digging out of the same exact conversation with Einstein and some guy talking about his faith, or the lack thereof. You were equally guilty.

You lose, one more time.

Wrong.


Again... :(

[HookEm]

I attributed my quotes to Einstein.

You took credit for someone elses analytical comments.


SLIGHT difference.


My family owns it, we're all one entity. Is that so hard for you to understand?

You were digging out of the same exact conversation with Einstein and some guy talking about his faith, or the lack thereof. You were equally guilty.

You lose, one more time.

Wrong.


Again... :(

[Zarathustra]

I attributed my quotes to Einstein.

You took credit for someone elses analytical comments.


SLIGHT difference.

What analytical comments are you talking about?

Please point them out.


If you don't, you're the liar.

[HookEm]

Einstein tried to express these feelings clearly, both for himself and all of those who wanted a simple answer from him about his faith. So in the summer of 1930, amid his sailing and ruminations in Caputh, he composed a credo, "What I Believe," that he recorded for a human-rights group and later published. It concluded with an explanation of what he meant when he called himself religious: "The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man."

This most certainly does not say he believes in your God.

What analytical comments are you talking about?

Please point them out.


If you don't, you're the liar.

[Zarathustra]

Einstein tried to express these feelings clearly, both for himself and all of those who wanted a simple answer from him about his faith. So in the summer of 1930, amid his sailing and ruminations in Caputh, he composed a credo, "What I Believe," that he recorded for a human-rights group and later published. It concluded with an explanation of what he meant when he called himself religious: "The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man."

This most certainly does not say he believes in your God.

There is a quotation mark at the end of it.

People as intelligent as yourself should be able to know that came from someone else.

Einstein denounced your idea of a God.

[HookEm]

No, there's a quote in the middle of it with quotations. You tried to take credit for the rest of it.

There is a quotation mark at the end of it.

People as intelligent as yourself should be able to know that came from someone else.

Einstein denounced your idea of a God.

[Strychnine]

To everyone quoting famous people...
WTF makes their opinion any better or worse than anyone else in the world? NONE of us here on this site know the "truth" about anything discussed in this subforum. NONE.

Deal with it.

Try this one on for size...




"A witty saying proves nothing."

- Voltaire




He said, she said... blah fucking blah. You're all retards and this forum has become nothing more than a burden on the already strained bandwith of this site.



PS.

The difference here is that I actually know and understand what Einstein actually meant.

You're not Einstein. Don't put words in people's mouth... no matter how "right" you feel you are.



Let me know when you guys have something more interesting to talk about than taco stands, thermite bombs, economic conspiracies stupid played out nicknames,

[Zarathustra]

Well put, sir.

[Pro Trash]

He said, she said... blah fucking blah. You're all retards and this forum has become nothing more than a burden on the already strained bandwith of this site.
,

Then STFU and march on out if any of this bothers you, you seem to be the only one crying.

[BreedLove]

einstein actually didn't believe in a so called "god". He believed in a higher being but as for his belief in god I don't think he ever gave a straight answer. We had a huge debate in one of my philosophy classes.

[Zarathustra]

People like GeneralizeEm can't understand things so simply put..