Wal-Mart to film gun sales in bid to fight crime

[Falcongunner]

Wal-Mart to film gun sales in bid to fight crime

http://news.yahoo.com:80/s/nm/20080414/ts_nm/usa_guns_walmart_dc_1

I would't buy crap from Walmart. I dont care how cheap their ammmo is. Cheaper than Dirt or mail order for me. Bastards!

Wayne in FW

[SMOKEY]

SInce we all know that criminals go to Wal-Mart to buy guns.

[Falcongunner]

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April 14, 2008
Bloomberg's 10-Point Code For Wal-Mart
Wal-Mart, the nation's largest seller of firearms, which Azi notes has been unsuccessful to date at getting a toehold in the city, agreed today a 10-point "responsible firearms" code championed by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the group fronted and funded by prominent anti-illegal gun activist, Mayor Bloomberg.

The deal, announced at the Mayors Against Illegal Guns National Summit underway in Washington, D.C., calls for Wal-Mart to implement the following standards "over time" (no exact schedule was given):

1. Videotaping the Point of Sale for All Firearms Transactions. Participating retailers will videotape the point-of-sale of all firearms transactions and maintain videos for 6 months to deter illegal purchases and monitor employees.

2. Computerized Crime Gun Trace Log and Alert System. Mayors Against Illegal Guns will develop a computerized system that participating retailers will implement over time to log crime gun traces relating to the retailer.

Once the program is in place, if a customer who has a prior trace at that retailer attempts to purchase a firearm, the sale will be electronically flagged. The retailer would have discretion to proceed with the sale or stop the sale.

3. Purchaser Declaration. For sales flagged by the trace alert system, participating retailers will ask purchasers to fill out a declaration indicating that they meet the legal requirement to purchase the firearm.

4. Deterring Fake IDs. Participating retailers will only accept valid federal- or state-issued picture IDs as primary identification. Retailers will utilize additional ID checking mechanisms.

5. Consistent Visible Signage Consistent Visible Signage. Participating retailers will post signage created by the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership to alert customers of their legal responsibilities at the point-of-sale.

6. Employee Background Checks Employee Background Checks. Participating retailers will conduct criminal background checks for all employees selling or handling firearms.

7. Employee Responsibility Training. Participating retailers will participate in an employee responsibility training program focused on deterring illegal purchasers. The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership will create an online training system based on Wal-Mart’s training program.

8. Inventory Checking. Participating retailers will conduct daily and quarterly audits. Guidelines will be based on Wal-Mart’s existing audit procedures.

9. No Sales Without Background Check Results. Participating retailers would prohibit sales based on “default proceeds,” which are permitted by law when the background check has not returned a result within 3 days.

10. Securing Firearms. Participating retailers will maintain firearms kept in customer accessible areas in locked cases or locked to racks.

[Trip McNeely]

How about filming thugs buying them in alleys, or stealing them from lawful gun owners. Oh wait..

[Falcongunner]

Does Walmart even sell handguns anymore? I thought 95% or so of all gun crimes were committed with handguns.

Wayne in Fw

[DanielB]

The Wal-Mart I live by no longer sells guns...just ammo.

[Fox466]

Same with the walmart out here.

What I find so damned laughable about this is that you already have to show ID to purchase firearms. And fill out some neat little form. Then wait. Yet now they are going to film it? What the hell does that accomplish that wasn't already taken care of? :confused:

[92Notch]

who ever came up with that idea was on crack

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Same with the walmart out here.

What I find so damned laughable about this is that you already have to show ID to purchase firearms. And fill out some neat little form. Then wait.I don't have to wait. :DYet now they are going to film it? What the hell does that accomplish that wasn't already taken care of? :confused:What I got from the articles is that that cocksucker Bloomberg needs some feel-good regulations in place before he'd consider allowing Wal-Mart to sell guns in New York City. I could be totally wrong, though, because I was too busy laughing and shaking my head to read it all.

[Fox466]

I don't have to wait. :DW

I'm working on mine now... :cool:

[Sean88gt]

I'll go elsewhere.

I bought a 22 there, but nothing else. They don't sell anything crime worthy anyway.

[03trubluGT]

I know the WM in Mansfield still sells guns. That's where I bought my son's Marlin Model 60. Most places you go to buy guns have video cameras, so you're being recorded anyway.

The Wal-Marts that chose to keep their FFL (the store manager has the option of having a dealer's license) can also order guns that they don't normally stock. I like buying guns from them because they have good prices, and I get my 10% off as well.

I walked out with the a stainless Marlin Model 60 for $186 total.

[aggie97]

fuck em'. Let them spend the money on it for nothing, they can afford it.

What's funny is the guide lines in that group's system appears that they don't even understand the way a gun is typically purchased legally. It's like they think you walk in, show and ID and leave 30 seconds later...?

What's even funnier is that the article mentions the ATF's data that says 46% of gun crimes involve a gun purchased by someone other than the trigger man... yeah, these cameras will stop that! :rolleyes:

[PooterWS6]

I dont give a fuck one way or the other, if they want to waste film on little ole me(not that I buy firearms there anyway), then fine. Im not breaking the law, so I dont care. Its not going to do anything, but if the liberals feel safer, so be it... :rolleyes:


The only thing ive bought there is WWB, because its cheaper than everyone else....

[bcoop]

I'm working on mine now... :cool:




:confused:


Shoot me a pm. I thought you were in the same boat I'm in. I REALLY want to find a way around it. :(

[Fox466]

:confused:


Shoot me a pm. I thought you were in the same boat I'm in. I REALLY want to find a way around it. :(


Too much typing. I'll call you later and give you the scoop.

[ScottsMach03]

Sounds like registering without going to the register office.

[1985GT]

i read that a little different... i'm sure its a ploy, but half of that list sounds like Wal-mart is tired of their POS employees selling guns illegally or stealing them.