Trans Texas Corridor 69

[Muffrazr]

Well, the Gov't is going around to some of the towns to get a response from the locals. They are planning on being in Longview at the Maude Cobb center here soon. They started in Carthage and are working their way here.

They are saying it will take 50 years to build. I didn't get a whole lot of specifics as it was playing on the news just now.

They did mention that they will not be answering any questions, simply getting responses. They want to avoid swaying how people think so they won't answer questions. That sounds like a load of bullshit. In the last comment as the broadcast was fading out I swear I heard them say it is already approved to happen. I wonder if that really is the cas and it will be done regardless of how Texans feel.


They were seriously downplaying how much Spain will own.

[staticX]

What is the Trans Texas Corridor exactly?

[David]

What is the Trans Texas Corridor exactly?
It's a super highway autobahn thing. I beleive it'll link up with other super highway plans in the US.

[staticX]

It's a super highway autobahn thing. I beleive it'll link up with other super highway plans in the US.

Whats the super part about the HWY? Bigger lanes? Faster speed limits?

[EatYurZ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Texas_Corridor

The Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC) is a transportation network in the planning and early construction stages in the U.S. state of Texas. The network, as planned, would be composed of a 4,000-mile (6,000 km) network of supercorridors up to 1,200 feet (370 m) wide to carry parallel links of tollways, rails, and utility lines.[1] The tollway portion would be divided into two separate elements: truck lanes and lanes for passenger vehicles. Similarly, the rail lines in the corridor would be divided among freight, commuter, and high-speed rail. Services expected to be carried in the utility corridor include water, electricity, natural gas, petroleum, fiber optic lines, and other telecommunications services. The Trans-Texas Corridor will allow passenger vehicular speed limits of up to 85 mph (140 km/h).[2] The network will be funded by private investors and built and expanded as demand warrants.

[Muffrazr]

Whats the super part about the HWY? Bigger lanes? Faster speed limits?


Originally it was supposed to be a quarter mile wide with railroads running along with it.


The major stink I have with it is the land that will be taken away from people due to imminent domain, along with the strong possibility that it will be owned by a company from another country. If it were owned by Texas, then I probably wouldn't gripe too much.

[staticX]

Originally it was supposed to be a quarter mile wide with railroads running along with it.


The major stink I have with it is the land that will be taken away from people due to imminent domain, along with the strong possibility that it will be owned by a company from another country. If it were owned by Texas, then I probably wouldn't gripe too much.

A quarter mile wide?? Jeez :eek:

[mikeb]

What is the Trans Texas Corridor exactly?

rick perry's golden ticket, cintra's cash cow, and a good screwing to the people of texas and the US by opening a big old fat pipeline into mexico. For example, the overseas shipping that now comes onto both US shores can and will be bypassed and sent to mexico instead where it will be offloaded by low dollar mexican labor, and will be trucked up into the US by mexican trucking companies, which will be allowed free access to the US highway system. This of course puts US citizens out of work, and also to some degree reduces the effectiveness of US customs because the customs load at the mexican border will become unbearable, and when backups start to occur there will be great political pressure to expedite shipping thru customs as fast as possible. This of course means that some shipping will get thru without being checked. This should scare you.

The highway will also encourage businesses to move production to just south of the border to take advantage of the situation. I believe the only things that will be crossing the border from the US into mexico will be empty trucks returning for another load and moving vans relocating businesses to mexico. The highway unfairly seizes private property. It is a horrible deal for the US and for texas.

[Muffrazr]

Now that I have a few people's attention on this I will divulge my motive.



I have noticed that the folks behind this seem to be going to small towns only for their feedback. This is my observation from local news stations. It seems as though they are avoiding heavily populated areas. I could be wrong about this, but I doubt it.

I would be happy to represent folks who cannot get out to one of these discussions. I would like to know if this whole highway plan is going to happen regardless of how we feel, though.

Or, we can have a GTG and bombard these folks with our thoughts.

[Mr Majestyk]

Is this boondoggle being put up for a vote or is it a done deal?

[Sean88gt]

What is the Trans Texas Corridor exactly?

A really bad idea.

[Mustangman_2000]

Interesting

[ayzo]

rick perry's golden ticket, cintra's cash cow, and a good screwing to the people of texas and the US by opening a big old fat pipeline into mexico. For example, the overseas shipping that now comes onto both US shores can and will be bypassed and sent to mexico instead where it will be offloaded by low dollar mexican labor, and will be trucked up into the US by mexican trucking companies, which will be allowed free access to the US highway system. This of course puts US citizens out of work, and also to some degree reduces the effectiveness of US customs because the customs load at the mexican border will become unbearable, and when backups start to occur there will be great political pressure to expedite shipping thru customs as fast as possible. This of course means that some shipping will get thru without being checked. This should scare you.

The highway will also encourage businesses to move production to just south of the border to take advantage of the situation. I believe the only things that will be crossing the border from the US into mexico will be empty trucks returning for another load and moving vans relocating businesses to mexico. The highway unfairly seizes private property. It is a horrible deal for the US and for texas.

GO NAFTA!!!!!!

http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/2760.htm

http://i13.tinypic.com/6o5v2nn.jpg

and the only man with the balls to stop it

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[Nestromo]

Damn it all to hell.

[BP]

Is this boondoggle being put up for a vote or is it a done deal?

It's going to happen regardless of what we vote for. No different than the interstate highway system, people bitched and thousands of them lost their land anyways.

[line-em-up]

I've been trying to let people know about this fucked up crap for years. As it stands now, it will go about 2 miles from my house.

Here is a website with LOTS of info and history about it.

http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm

[line-em-up]

GO NAFTA!!!!!!

http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/2760.htm

http://i13.tinypic.com/6o5v2nn.jpg

and the only man with the balls to stop it

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Ron Paul did a really nice job of expressing his view. I think the squirrel from Arlington that asked that question was trying to make RP look bad.

[Muffrazr]

I've been trying to let people know about this fucked up crap for years. As it stands now, it will go about 2 miles from my house.

Here is a website with LOTS of info and history about it.

http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm



The new proposal for using a corridor for the proposed I-69 seemes to be more beneficial for revenue in the State of Texas. I foresee this one happening versus the I-35 corridor. The new proposal puts the super-highway very close to all ports in Texas. It will run through an area of less population which is better as well.

The flipside is, this crap will still take away other people's land. It will not be owned by Texas. Those two things alone are enough to make me want to vote against it.

I feel that if each state that this thing runs through owned the roads to make revenue from, then it would be beneficial enough to offset the land issue, as long as the funds were properly handled. It would also have Texas at the forefront of setting an example on how to keep illegal activity from entering the country. As it stands to happen now, Texas will get the blame while another country allows all sorts of shit to come through.

[shlby123]

We seem to slowly but surely be morphing into medieval England with all the taxes and tolls and what not. I know that being free does cost something, but Perry is such a bitch ass.

I remember meeting him back in '99 and hearing him lecture a very small group of us (Bush was supposed to be giving the lecture at the time but was too "busy" when time came for the lecture to come up) and just getting the major douche vibe from him. Maybe it would be slightly less irking if the road was owned by Texas or some American entity, but still 4K miles worth of Tolls? Next they'll be be feeding the public some funny shit like it'll take 650 years before the roads pay for themselves and the tolls "can be removed".

[AL P]

.... as long as the funds were properly handled.

LMAO, made my day. You would be better off letting a meth head manage the money. Seriously, look at what has happened to the money from the lottery that was supposed to fund education. Look at what happens to the money collected from gas taxes.

I can't figure out why people fall for this line of bullshit.

[Muffrazr]

LMAO, made my day. You would be better off letting a meth head manage the money. Seriously, look at what has happened to the money from the lottery that was supposed to fund education. Look at what happens to the money collected from gas taxes.

I can't figure out why people fall for this line of bullshit.



Yeah, no shit. I was laughing when I typed it. TxDot can't seem to manage their money worth a shit either. It sucks too, because we could have an even better state than we already have with smarter children to keep it going for a half century or so.

[AL P]

Yeah, no shit. I was laughing when I typed it. TxDot can't seem to manage their money worth a shit either. It sucks too, because we could have an even better state than we already have with smarter children to keep it going for a half century or so.

At least with the meth head managing things we would KNOW where the money is going.

[Muffrazr]

At least with the meth head managing things we would KNOW where the money is going.



Hell, we had a coke head in there for a little while and things seemed to be better than they are now.

[thesource]

Not looking foward to that POS highway at all . Its planned to go right through my property and I like living in the boon docks without some fucking major highway going through my back yard .....

[black01gt]

and the only man with the balls to stop it

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AND HE AIN'T JUST WISTLIN DIXIE. HE CAN'T BE BOUGHT!!!

[black01gt]

Is this boondoggle being put up for a vote or is it a done deal?
I don't remember what the state vote was for now, but the super highway was in the fine print at the bottom of the page. We voted for it. :o

You can thank Ric Williamson for all this bullshit. I grew up in West Texas with him and went to college with him. We used to play poker and he would bring cases of beer for everybody else and a 6 pack of DP for himself :rolleyes: clever. I drank his beer and took his money but he was always pretty shrewd and looking for an "angle".

When he and Good Hair became butt buddies it was like a trainwreck for the citizens of Texas waiting to happen. He just about shit a brick when someone wanted to name a highway after Willie Nelson. Willie told em to just keep their damned highway.

He died a couple of weeks ago and I don't usually like to speak ill of the dead, but he was a real piece of shit when it came to having any respect at all for his fellow man.

Have a look for yourself:
http://www.firericwilliamson.com/

[Fox466]

AND HE AIN'T JUST WISTLIN DIXIE. HE CAN'T BE BOUGHT!!!

Hmmmph. I liked what he had to say.

[Muffrazr]

I don't remember what the state vote was for now, but the super highway was in the fine print at the bottom of the page. We voted for it. :o

You can thank Ric Williamson for all this bullshit. I grew up in West Texas with him and went to college with him. We used to play poker and he would bring cases of beer for everybody else and a 6 pack of DP for himself :rolleyes: clever. I drank his beer and took his money but he was always pretty shrewd and looking for an "angle".

When he and Good Hair became butt buddies it was like a trainwreck for the citizens of Texas waiting to happen. He just about shit a brick when someone wanted to name a highway after Willie Nelson. Willie told em to just keep their damned highway.

He died a couple of weeks ago and I don't usually like to speak ill of the dead, but he was a real piece of shit when it came to having any respect at all for his fellow man.

Have a look for yourself:
http://www.firericwilliamson.com/


So it's a done deal?

Figures. Well, sounds like we're stuck with gorilla tactics to keep our sovereignty. OK, that sounds extreme for today, but let's look back on this in the future to see who really has a tinfoil hat collection. They'll be the ones saying "I told you so".


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[black01gt]

So it's a done deal?

Figures. Well, sounds like we're stuck with gorilla tactics to keep our sovereignty. OK, that sounds extreme for today, but let's look back on this in the future to see who really has a tinfoil hat collection. They'll be the ones saying "I told you so".


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I think so unless it's appealed.

That's hilarious...in a sick and scary way. :o

[Zarathustra]

The north american union is upon us, gentlemen. But there is alot we can still do to stop them from destroying American's sovereignty, NAFTA is just a slower more methodical way of joining Canada, Mexico, and the United States into one single entity, with one government, one currency, and one language. Disguising such a concept behind a trade agreement is par for the course. Disinformation is rampant these days. That highway will serve to bring all the chinese goods in from mexico on the pacific side. After this section is built, they'll focus on enhancing the route form the ports in mexico to the texas/mexico border at the expense of american, namely texan taxpayers.

This is what I've been ranting and raving about guys, we are slaves to the dollar and it's only going to get worse. Why do you think nobody gives a shit about closing our border with mexico? This is the global elite in action right here in our own fucking backyard!

[black01gt]

This is what I've been ranting and raving about guys, we are slaves to the dollar and it's only going to get worse. Why do you think nobody gives a shit about closing our border with mexico? This is the global elite in action right here in our own fucking backyard!
Hmmm...
No wonder I've been feeling a strong sense of that.

Dang it! They tricked me again. I'm just not gonna trust em anymore.

[Yale]

Hmmm...
No wonder I've been feeling a strong sense of that.

Dang it! They tricked me again. I'm just not gonna trust em anymore.

Our same governor that pushed so hard for the passage of Prop 2 also got busted by his wife with a dude. In the sack. Doin' it. Don't trust the politicians. Trust the Military, they're our only hope.

[Zarathustra]

They bought up all the newspapers in and around the proposed site(s) where they're going to bumrush and ransack folks off their land and carve out a super-highway in order to discourage dissent and harbor good feelings about the project. The day has come where our democracy as we once knew it has vanished before our eyes, literally. There will never be another president of the united states unless they are part of the global elite community, our candidates and presidents have been chosen long before election time, that's why I think all this hype surrounding the primary elections is bullshit, completely pointless. The candidates and president have already been picked and the new president already knows if he/she is going to win office. This is just another step in the forming of this 'New World Order' with the illuminati puppeteers behind the scenes pulling the strings and herding us into the big cities like fucking sheep. It's all part of their master plan to create one world government and destroy personal freedom.


Furthermore, I disagree with the notion that Ron fucking Paul is the only one with balls enough to stand up to this tyranny. Alex Jones is the man with the plan when it comes to fighting the corporate fascism that is running increasingly rampant through the dark corridors and back alleys of our American society.

[black01gt]

Furthermore, I disagree with the notion that Ron fucking Paul is the only one with balls enough to stand up to this tyranny. Alex Jones is the man with the plan when it comes to fighting the corporate fascism that is running increasingly rampant through the dark corridors and back alleys of our American society.
Maybe so, but Ron Paul is having a hard enough time getting his platform known while running for President, which if he's successful would give him a little more leverage than Alex Jones with his radio show and films.

But you do agree that Ron Paul has the cajones to stand up to the tough guys, no?

[black01gt]

Our same governor that pushed so hard for the passage of Prop 2 also got busted by his wife with a dude. In the sack. Doin' it. Don't trust the politicians. Trust the Military, they're our only hope.
Probably puffing on Ric Williamson's pecker.

I do keep the faith that with our military leaders not being politicians that they are ultimately on our side.

[Slowhand]

They bought up all the newspapers in and around the proposed site(s) where they're going to bumrush and ransack folks off their land and carve out a super-highway in order to discourage dissent and harbor good feelings about the project.

lmao!

I hate this shit as much of you, but this really just sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

I'd like to see some evidence of this, at which point I will read the rest of the shit you typed.

[black01gt]

lmao!

I hate this shit as much of you, but this really just sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

I'd like to see some evidence of this, at which point I will read the rest of the shit you typed.
I haven't done my homework that far yet, but the plan is to "acquire" over a million acres...one way or another.

[Slowhand]

I haven't done my homework that far yet, but the plan is to "acquire" over a million acres...one way or another.

the landsnatching I understand.

I don't understand his theory about the government buying out the newspapers.

[black01gt]

the landsnatching I understand.

I don't understand his theory about the government buying out the newspapers.
I've still got major suspicians of Cintra, the wealthy proposed owners and partners from Spain they quit talking about.

Can't catch em "out in the open", but I did find these:
http://transtexascorridor.blogspot.com/

http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/herring/070901

then of course you've got the demo version:
http://www.governor.state.tx.us/priorities/transportation/ttc_factsheet/view

[Zarathustra]

Maybe so, but Ron Paul is having a hard enough time getting his platform known while running for President, which if he's successful would give him a little more leverage than Alex Jones with his radio show and films.

But you do agree that Ron Paul has the cajones to stand up to the tough guys, no?

Oh absolutely, but that's precisely the reason he won't win, or even get close to winning. He's a free thinker, corporate fascism is not his strong suit. Precisely the reason why he's so unpopular.

[black01gt]

Precisely the reason why he's so unpopular.
In spite of their efforts he's not so unpopular. I still have a little faith in the average American citizen. He already passed over $1.1 Million in donations...today. Over $3 Mill for the month. That's not from 4 or 5 major corporations, but from thousands of fed up American citizens speaking to them in their own language. Might work. The NY Giants proved anything can happen.

[line-em-up]

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For the hat or the gorrilla warfare uniform?

[Zarathustra]

In spite of their efforts he's not so unpopular. I still have a little faith in the average American citizen. He already passed over $1.1 Million in donations...today. Over $3 Mill for the month. That's not from 4 or 5 major corporations, but from thousands of fed up American citizens speaking to them in their own language. Might work. The NY Giants proved anything can happen.



This is not the NFL, and this is not a democracy.

It's a sad day when a guy like Ron Paul, a guy who actually speaks the truth, gets so much support. He's not illuminati, he won't be president. It's that simple.

[jyro]

This is not the NFL, and this is not a democracy.

It's a sad day when a guy like Ron Paul, a guy who actually speaks the truth, gets so much support. He's not illuminati, he won't be president. It's that simple.

http://www.democrats.org/a/2008/01/paul_tops_mccai_2.php

Paul Tops McCain in 2008 Democratic Party Republican Straw Poll
It may be snowing here in Washington, D.C., but the sun is apparently shinning on Congressman Ron Paul, who edged out Senator John McCain in the 2008 Democratic Party Republican Straw Poll. Meanwhile, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani ended up in a familiar place: sixth.

Full results:

Candidate %
Rep. Ron Paul 25.72%
Sen. John McCain 24.73%
Gov. Mike Huckabee 17.17%
Gov. Mitt Romney 12.14%
Sen. Fred Thompson 10.07%
Mayor Rudy Giuliani 6.74%
Rep. Duncan Hunter 3.42%

[Muffrazr]

For the hat or the gorrilla warfare uniform?



I like to keep my options open. ;) I am a former Boy Scout so I'm always prepared.

[jyro]

Q: You charged at the YouTube debate that eminent domain would be used to build a new international highway from Canada through the US down to Mexico, suggesting that maybe there was a plan to create some sort of North American Union, similar to the European Union. That is now being denied by a lot of folks in Washington, including a spokesman for the Federal Highway Administration, saying: "There is no such super highway like the one he's talking about. It doesn't exist in plans or anywhere else."

A: We have a bill in the Congress to stop all of the funding for this particular highway, and I think we have over 50 co-sponsors of it. To be in denial of this, that this is not planned, they're not going to admit it. It's subtle. They'll say, we are just improving highways. But how come they had a meeting in April 2005 with the president of Mexico, the US & Canada, and they talk about these things? They do believe in globalism. So I don't think there is any doubt about the plans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzjSX2kO07Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSe8_1U7ryk

[ayzo]

Its going to be billed in congress under infrastructure maintenance, anyone who reads the bill would vote against it then be labeled as inconsiderate to drivers and wreckless about the economy.