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AL P

01-14-2008, 04:48 PM

Please go down to the jail and pin a medal on this guy's chest for me:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322386,00.html

Cops: Dad Sodomized Teen Stepson to Avenge Rape of Daughter
Saturday, January 12, 2008

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FORT WORTH, Texas — A father sodomized his 18-year-old stepson to avenge the teenager's alleged rape of the man's 8-year-old daughter, police said.

The father, 32, turned himself into to authorities on Friday and was released from jail Saturday after posting a $17,500 bond. He faces a charge of aggravated sexual assault.

The stepson was arrested Jan. 2 and charged with suspicion of aggravated sexual assault. Police say the father caught him assaulting his daughter, and a subsequent examination at a hospital revealed the girl had been sodomized.

Sgt. Cheryl Johnson, supervisor of the Fort Worth sex crimes unit, said in a story posted Saturday on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram's Web site that people need to "allow the criminal justice system to work for them."

"This is a very unique case, but we have a criminal justice system in place, and no one can take the law into their own hands," Johnson said.

The Star-Telegram didn't identify the father or the stepson to protect the identity of the girl. Fort Worth police didn't immediately return phone and e-mail messages from The Associated Press.

When the stepson was arrested, the man warned his wife not to get the teenager out of jail. She posted bond for the teen's release. When he called home Jan. 3 after getting released, the father took the call and picked him up, police said.

Instead of taking the teenager home, the Arlington man drove to an abandoned house in Fort Worth, beat his stepson with a baseball bat and sodomized him with a metal tool, police said.

After the man left, the stepson found a pay phone and called police, who searched the abandoned home.

"We did find evidence at the scene to corroborate our victim's story," Johnson said.

forever_frost

01-14-2008, 05:34 PM

Damn. I like this guy. Save time our the CJ system

bcoop

01-14-2008, 05:41 PM

Kudos to the man. I was relieved to read later in the story that he didn't actually fuck him in the ass, using a "metal tool" instead. Fuck a metal tool. Use the big end of the baseball bat. Fucking piece of shit. :mad:

GVazquez

01-14-2008, 05:54 PM

Mustangman_2000

01-14-2008, 07:12 PM

That's awesome!

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

01WhiteCobra

01-14-2008, 09:32 PM

That's awesome!

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

And in the ass in this case.

Denny

01-15-2008, 06:46 AM

32 with an 18 year old stepson?!?! That dude got him one of dem dar Cougars!

Fox466

01-15-2008, 07:53 AM

What's fucked up about the charges is that the stepson, who was caught red handed, was charged with "suspicion of aggravated sexual assault", while the stepdad, who was not caught redhanded, was charged with actual "aggravated sexual assault".

Heh... :rolleyes:

Kudos to the dad though.

black01gt

01-15-2008, 08:00 AM

And the kid sez..."Mom, next time just leave me in jail." :( But then there may very well NOT be a next time...this time.

Fox466

01-15-2008, 08:04 AM

And the kid sez..."Mom, next time just leave me in jail." :( But then there may very well NOT be a next time...this time.

If he thinks that daddy was mean to him he's going to be in for quite a shock when he actually gets sentenced to prison... ;)

jones4stangs

01-15-2008, 09:27 AM

I hope he gets a minimum sentence. After all the dad did, I'm amazed he didn't kill the kid too. That's self control.

Muffrazr

01-15-2008, 01:06 PM

Well, I feel an overwhelming urge to set up a defense fund for this father.

I don't know if I would have the restraint to allow the 18 year old to live after catching him red-handed.

jewozzy

01-15-2008, 03:03 PM

i would say the step father might not even do much jail time. gotta remember its a jury by your peers and as shown on here a lot of us feel what he did was justified. anyone remember the case in la. when a fathers son was kidnapped and taken out to cali? when the guy that kidnapped him was caught and flown back to la. to be jailed the father was waiting for him at the airport and shot him in the back of the head as he walked by. the father was sentenced to prohbation.

black01gt

01-15-2008, 07:05 PM

anyone remember the case in la. when a fathers son was kidnapped and taken out to cali? when the guy that kidnapped him was caught and flown back to la. to be jailed the father was waiting for him at the airport and shot him in the back of the head as he walked by. the father was sentenced to prohbation.
Yep. 6 months probation. I've seen a film of that several times. He was pretending to be on the phone and when they walked by with the guy he reached out with his pistol and...instant kharma...to the head.

jewozzy

01-16-2008, 01:42 AM

Yep. 6 months probation. I've seen a film of that several times. He was pretending to be on the phone and when they walked by with the guy he reached out with his pistol and...instant kharma...to the head.

ahh the crime of passion....

black01gt

01-16-2008, 08:56 AM

ahh the crime of passion....
Except crimes of passion usually aren't planned out too well. This guy was very meticulous. I think he had some help from inside the NOLA police.

black01gt

01-16-2008, 09:06 AM

Fox466

01-16-2008, 09:16 AM

Except crimes of passion usually aren't planned out too well. This guy was very meticulous. I think he had some help from inside the NOLA police.

I wouldn't doubt that at all.

lefty1300

01-17-2008, 05:50 PM

Yea If You Watch The Vid , You Can Hear One Of The Cops Say His Name ..i Dont Remeber It ..but Its Like .......robert Dont Lol :d

Paladin

01-17-2008, 05:53 PM

I understand why you guys are cheering the step-dad, but several things concern me. The savageness of the crime committed on the 18 year old and the time between the assault on the child and the assault on the 18 year old.

It will probably get the step-dad some time in jail, maybe even more than the 18 year old. I don't have near as much faith in juries as you guys do. Remember, the average person on a jury is someone who was not smart enough to get out of the duty. This leaves some pretrty big idiots to dominate the majority of juries.

I was the sergeant for this unit before I was transferred back to patrol and I know Sgt Johnson very well. We were both sex crimes detectives and she really knows her stuff.

BTW, before someone tries to imply I have too much sympathy for the 18 year old, I have spent almost 1/3 of my career in LE investiating sex crimes. I have no sympathy for sex offenders, especailly those who prey on children.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 01:07 AM

Notch,
Are you working on this deal? What's this town coming to with the kids?

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) - Several teenage gang members have been arrested on suspicion of forcing girls as young as 12 into a prostitution ring, police said Tuesday.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080116/D8U70D9O0.html

I am now in patrol, so my days of specialized units are over for now. I am not involved in any of those investigations, but like I said, I was the sergeant in the sex crimes unit about a year ago, so I would have been all over this if I was still there.

black01gt

01-18-2008, 08:45 AM

I understand why you guys are cheering the step-dad, but several things concern me. The savageness of the crime committed on the 18 year old and the time between the assault on the child and the assault on the 18 year old.

At least the 18 yr old boy will much better understand what happened to him and why, than the 8 yr old little girl.

What do you mean by "...and the time between the assault on the child and the assault on the 18 year old"?

AL P

01-18-2008, 08:53 AM

aggie97

01-18-2008, 09:02 AM

I'd have to hear the story to decide. I'd be a lot more sympathetic in the second scenario.

You know damn good and well that the cops were probably laughing their asses off at what happened to the kid. :p

Strychnine

01-18-2008, 09:21 AM

I was the sergeant for this unit before I was transferred back to patrol and I know Sgt Johnson very well. We were both sex crimes detectives and she really knows her stuff.

Benson and Stabler?

Fox466

01-18-2008, 09:31 AM

What do you mean by "...and the time between the assault on the child and the assault on the 18 year old"?

The time that the kid was in jail and that the dad couldn't get to him? :confused:

black01gt

01-18-2008, 09:42 AM

The time that the kid was in jail and that the dad couldn't get to him? :confused:
I think the Dad tried to do the right thing after catching him red handed by telling the wife to leave him in jail. When that didn't happen he "took em to school".

AL P

01-18-2008, 10:01 AM

Not to mention the fact that I would bet she used Dad's money to bail him out.

Muffrazr

01-18-2008, 10:24 AM

Not to mention the fact that I would bet she used Dad's money to bail him out.

Well, I beleive she would get it in the ass as well.

I feel for the little girl who has no understanding of why this happened to her. That single action has formed her in a way she may never understand, and pity to the poor soul who tries to get intimate with her when she is older.

If it turns out that the step-dad was molesting the boy, and this is what brought him to return the action to his daughter, then the step-dad should see jail time, in the same cell as the 18 year old. If the 18 year old did this simply to do it, then the step-dad should be given a medal.

black01gt

01-18-2008, 10:56 AM

If it turns out that the step-dad was molesting the boy, and this is what brought him to return the action to his daughter, then the step-dad should see jail time, in the same cell as the 18 year old. If the 18 year old did this simply to do it, then the step-dad should be given a medal.
With the lack of hesitation on step dad's part I would bet on the latter.

Fox466

01-18-2008, 11:08 AM

I think the Dad tried to do the right thing after catching him red handed by telling the wife to leave him in jail. When that didn't happen he "took em to school".

When you look at that factor, I'm leaning more and more to the little prick having developed a smart mouth on the way home (as mentioned above) and paying the price as a result. But then again when the dad headed out to pick him up he could have started brooding and brewing...

Muffrazr

01-18-2008, 11:21 AM

When you look at that factor, I'm leaning more and more to the little prick having developed a smart mouth on the way home (as mentioned above) and paying the price as a result. But then again when the dad headed out to pick him up he could have started brooding and brewing...

I would bet on the brooding to have begun as his blood pressure spiked during the phone call from jail.

For me it would have been an instant blood boiling fire rushing thru my veins when I answered the phone with an almost simultaneous calming realization that I am the only one available to pick him up.

aggie97

01-18-2008, 11:28 AM

For me it would have been an instant blood boiling fire rushing thru my veins when I answered the phone with an almost simultaneous calming realization that I am the only one available to pick him up.

Same here....oh, and the kid wouldn't have been able to make the phone call because he would have been dead. :mad:

Muffrazr

01-18-2008, 11:56 AM

Same here....oh, and the kid wouldn't have been able to make the phone call because he would have been dead. :mad:

That's what I was getting at with the comment on the realization that I would be the only one available to know anything. I just didn't want to let the devious one out of his cage in my imagination. That tricky little fucker found the key for a little while.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 03:53 PM

At least the 18 yr old boy will much better understand what happened to him and why, than the 8 yr old little girl.

What do you mean by "...and the time between the assault on the child and the assault on the 18 year old"?

The assault on the 18 year old happened after he was arrested and had spent some time in jail. If it had happened at the house before calling the police and seconds after discovering the child being assaulted, the dad might not have even been arrested. They might have just gone to the GJ with it and if he got no-billed then it would all be dropped.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 03:55 PM

I think he means premeditation or something to that extent.

To me it really depends on the particulars of the case. Is the dad some sort of sexual predator himself? Could be very possible that he has molested the boy before and that is why the boy molested the girl.

On the other hand, at least to me, its also possible that the dad just got mad as hell at the defiant little son of a bitch and lost it in a fit of rage that got carried away.

I'd have to hear the story to decide. I'd be a lot more sympathetic in the second scenario.

I think dad has some criminal history, but I don't know for sure. I sure hope you aren't tryig to excuse/minimize/explain the assault on the child by saying the 18 year old may have been molested himself.

I have a story for you if that is where you are going.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 03:56 PM

Benson and Stabler?

I know Benson, don't know Stabler.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 03:57 PM

The time that the kid was in jail and that the dad couldn't get to him? :confused:

Exactly right. The longer the time between both crimes is bad for step-dad.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 03:59 PM

With the lack of hesitation on step dad's part I would bet on the latter.

Very perceptive on your part. Very few molesters would call the police on another molestor IMO.

AL P

01-18-2008, 04:07 PM

I think dad has some criminal history, but I don't know for sure. I sure hope you aren't tryig to excuse/minimize/explain the assault on the child by saying the 18 year old may have been molested himself.

I have a story for you if that is where you are going.

Where in the hell would you get "excuse" out of what I wrote? Explain? possibly. It's pretty well known fact that victims are more prone to become molestors themselves later in life.

I suppose you thought my statement had to do with the 18 year old kid. I was speaking about sympathy for the father.

I think the kid should face a firing squad. I think the dad should be judged based on his actions. Is he a sex pervert that has done this before? Or did he just go totally insane with rage and give the kid a quick education? In the second instance I'd have sympathy for dad.

Paladin

01-18-2008, 04:11 PM

Where in the hell would you get "excuse" out of what I wrote? Explain? possibly. It's pretty well known fact that victims are more prone to become molestors themselves later in life.

I suppose you thought my statement had to do with the 18 year old kid. I was speaking about sympathy for the father.

I think the kid should face a firing squad. I think the dad should be judged based on his actions. Is he a sex pervert that has done this before? Or did he just go totally insane with rage and give the kid a quick education? In the second instance I'd have sympathy for dad.

//ducks// I was just asking //ducks//

Sorry! :o

AL P

01-18-2008, 04:13 PM

//ducks// I was just asking //ducks//

Sorry! :o

It's not your fault it's the internet. I went back and read what I said and I can see where you got it.

Fox466

01-18-2008, 04:15 PM

Exactly right. The longer the time between both crimes is bad for step-dad.

Even though there was no way that he could get to him, or is it because it represents a cooling off period?

AL P

01-18-2008, 04:16 PM

Even though there was no way that he could get to him, or is it because it represents a cooling off period?

Usually they'll try to say that cooling off equals planning time. Or pre-meditation.

silvercobra03

01-18-2008, 10:37 PM

hahaha good for the dad!!!!!!

Fox466

01-18-2008, 10:41 PM

Usually they'll try to say that cooling off equals planning time. Or pre-meditation.

Kinda what I was thinking...

Paladin

01-19-2008, 01:08 AM

Even though there was no way that he could get to him, or is it because it represents a cooling off period?

The step-dad walked in on the crime if I have my info correct. That would have been the time for the beating and the sexual assault. The time between the assault on the child and the 18 year old being assaulted by step-dad was at least a few hours, if not a few days. The longer the time between the two shows pre-meditation and less likelihood the step-dad was emotionally overwhlemed to commit the crime.

It may look like a very well planned crime, since he took the 18 year old to an abandoned house and did the assault.

BTW, I would probably kill anyone who was caught assaulting my daughter. No doubt about it.

Fox466

01-19-2008, 06:31 AM

Same with my children. I'm not certain that I would be able to keep it together at all were I to encounter something like that. And I pray that I never have to find out what I would do if anyone accosts a member of my family.

black01gt

01-19-2008, 09:22 AM

BTW, I would probably kill anyone who was caught assaulting my daughter. No doubt about it.
Have to say the same. It would at least give me a better chance of getting any sleep at night.
My extreme condolences to any family that has been through this stuff.

Muffrazr

01-19-2008, 02:02 PM

The step-dad walked in on the crime if I have my info correct. That would have been the time for the beating and the sexual assault. The time between the assault on the child and the 18 year old being assaulted by step-dad was at least a few hours, if not a few days. The longer the time between the two shows pre-meditation and less likelihood the step-dad was emotionally overwhlemed to commit the crime.

It may look like a very well planned crime, since he took the 18 year old to an abandoned house and did the assault.

BTW, I would probably kill anyone who was caught assaulting my daughter. No doubt about it.

We never truely know how we would react to a situation, but knowing how it would appear if there were time in between the crimes, then my decision is set in stone.