So is Hillary done?

[01WhiteCobra]

I think after she gets trounced in New Hampshire she calls it quits.

[KJ94GT]

Let's hope so.

[David]

Maybe as a presidential candidate, but I wouldnt be surprised if she became someones VP pick.

[5.0_CJ]

I think after she gets trounced in New Hampshire she calls it quits.

Hard to say... The clinton machine likes to bitch and whine, but I dont think I've ever seen them in this bad a shape... it will be new ground. You may be right, after her balling on camera last night, she definitely is going to be winning any office though.

[mikeb]

I sure hope not; the conservatives need her to be nominated to bring out the conservative vote. Uneducated conservatives might see obama as a moderate and not come out to vote. But to answer the question it is starting to not look good for her.

[5.0_CJ]

Maybe as a presidential candidate, but I wouldnt be surprised if she became someones VP pick.

I highly doubt that will happen, she has tons of negative image, it could only hurt the primary candidate.

[01WhiteCobra]

after her balling on camera last night, she definitely is going to

That's what really made me go... hmmmm...

I think that hurt her more than her "she-devil" personality. People can put up with a she-devil but not a she-devil that cries.

At some point I see her making buddies with either Edwards or Obama and becomes the VP.

[KJ94GT]

That's what really made me go... hmmmm...

I think that hurt her more than her "she-devil" personality. People can put up with a she-devil but not a she-devil that cries.

At some point I see her making buddies with either Edwards or Obama and becomes the VP.
Video of her crying? Or summary of it all?

[JP135]

You guys are giving her credit for having enough class to concede defeat. Hillary will stay until bitter end. And if she does get beat, it won't be because people hate her for the worthless scumbag she is; it'll be because of a vast conspiracy out to get her.

...and Hillary won't be done running when this election is over.

[Vertnut]

The tears did Edwin Muskie in back in the '72 election. Folks don't want to see a weakness in a candidate, male or female.

[01WhiteCobra]

The tears did Edwin Muskie in back in the '72 election. Folks don't want to see a weakness in a candidate, male or female.

Now vert... all these youngins are going... "Who the fuck was Muskie?"

[01WhiteCobra]

Video of her crying? Or summary of it all?

Ok, we're not talking aligator tears here but a sign of weakness.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/85609

[5.0_CJ]

Now vert... all these youngins are going... "Who the fuck was Muskie?"

I know exactly about that actually, but yes I would assume most won't.

[Zarathustra]

I try and stay away from all the media hype surrounding the elections. It's all a bunch of useless windbag talking heads, IMO. Nothing any one of them says matters much if at all...

[Slowhand]

I try and stay away from all the media hype surrounding the elections. It's all a bunch of useless windbag talking heads, IMO. Nothing any one of them says matters much if at all...

what the hell does that have to do with the issue at hand?

[AL P]

The USS Hillary has taken a torpedo amidships and is listing badly....

Captain: "Bill, what can we do? We need damage control now!!?"

Bill: "I know, she needs to cry on TV to show the world that the cast iron fat ass bitch persona is just a show...."

[Slowhand]

The USS Hillary has taken a torpedo amidships and is listing badly....

Captain: "Bill, what can we do? We need damage control now!!?"

Bill: "I know, she needs to cry on TV to show the world that the cast iron fat ass bitch persona is just a show...."

she really is a nice person once you get to know her! :rolleyes:

[slow99]

Bill: "I know, she needs to cry on TV to show the world that the cast iron fat ass bitch persona is just a show...."

That's just her internet persona. She's really nice in person.

[thesource]

I hope she goes down early in the race . She's a fucking cunt bag ....

[Zarathustra]

what the hell does that have to do with the issue at hand?

Umm, are you serious?

I'll tell you.

NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS. IT'S ALL HYPE.

[Vertnut]

Now vert... all these youngins are going... "Who the fuck was Muskie?"
Kinda like what they'll say in 35 years about Ron Paul? ;) Muskie was actually a front-runner until his display of emotion. I have nothing against it, but the reality is that most folks see that as a weakness in a leadership role.

[ayzo]

No even if she loses NH and SC she'll still be in it for super tuesday. Remember that Obama and Clinton are tied nationally among registered democrats. What gives Obama the lead is his support from independents and republicans. She still has a shot at winning the nomination with closed primary states but I think the democrats learned a lesson from 2004 that electability counts. Otherwise Gravel or Kucinich would be the front runners.

[Mustangman_2000]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[01WhiteCobra]

No even if she loses NH and SC she'll still be in it for super tuesday. Remember that Obama and Clinton are tied nationally among registered democrats. What gives Obama the lead is his support from independents and republicans. She still has a shot at winning the nomination with closed primary states but I think the democrats learned a lesson from 2004 that electability counts. Otherwise Gravel or Kucinich would be the front runners.

Don't know, dude. Presidential campaigns require a shit load of money and I understand they are close to fumes at the moment (fumes being 15-25MM, lol!)

An ass-kicking in NH isn't going to do much for her gathering up new primary money.

[Sean88gt]

I hope she pushes on!

I think her genuine tears will grab all those guys in touch with their feminine side.

yeck.

[Vertnut]

I hope she pushes on!

I think her genuine tears will grab all those guys in touch with their feminine side.

yeck.
I finally saw the footage of the wench last night. Those looked like crocodile tears to me. "There's so much good to be done"... :rolleyes:

[Mr Majestyk]

I try and stay away from all the media hype surrounding the elections. It's all a bunch of useless windbag talking heads, IMO. Nothing any one of them says matters much if at all...

Sounds like an accurate description of yourself and your idiotic posts, FudgePecker.

[SBBII]

...after her balling on camera last night...

:eek: :eek: :eek: YACK. Someone, please help me erase that mental image.

Spell check, aisle three. Bawling on camera: way different than balling on camera.

[Fox466]

I finally saw the footage of the wench last night. Those looked like crocodile tears to me. "There's so much good to be done"... :rolleyes:


I'm with you on this one, as it did sound scripted, and was no doubt crafted to draw in the woman vote, and those in touch with their feminine sides as noted above.

Possibly a mild sign of desperation?

[ceyko]

Regardless what it is, she would be the President - that office has no room for anyone in it as a leader to be crying. Regardless if it is for show or not. I think most people would agree with me on that one.

[Denny]

I try and stay away from all the media hype surrounding the elections. It's all a bunch of useless windbag talking heads, IMO. Nothing any one of them says matters much if at all...
No, really... he does have a point. In the end, the President almost always bases his decision on his patry's popular opinion anyway. You'll NEVER elect just one person into office, just parties. This is all about who can put on the best "show" to get their party into office.

[Denny]

Regardless what it is, she would be the President - that office has no room for anyone in it as a leader to be crying. Regardless if it is for show or not. I think most people would agree with me on that one.
You cry, you die...

[ayzo]

Regardless what it is, she would be the President - that office has no room for anyone in it as a leader to be crying. Regardless if it is for show or not. I think most people would agree with me on that one.

I have to disagree, I'm not defending Clinton because it came across as scripted just like everything else she does, but presidents are humans too and one thing humans do is show emotion. Bush held the tears back but you could see it in his eyes when he addressed the country after the 9.11 attacks, if he had showed no emotion then I would be worried. A lot of politicians come across as fake but only because we force them to live up to impossible standards, they have a little bit of a soul left you know ;)

[ceyko]

I have to disagree, I'm not defending Clinton because it came across as scripted just like everything else she does, but presidents are humans too and one thing humans do is show emotion. Bush held the tears back but you could see it in his eyes when he addressed the country after the 9.11 attacks, if he had showed no emotion then I would be worried. A lot of politicians come across as fake but only because we force them to live up to impossible standards, they have a little bit of a soul left you know ;)

I understand what you're saying. Maybe a bit of emotion is okay depending on the circumstances. However, if you're crying during election - (fake or not) I gotta assume you're going to be a bawling baby in actual office.

I've never been President (obvious), but I'd imagine the stress and drama is like no other job. Well, besides what military leaders have to deal with.

I just don't think crying in office is a good idea in general. If you're crying during election....

Take care,

[Slowhand]

I try and stay away from all the media hype surrounding the elections. It's all a bunch of useless windbag talking heads, IMO. Nothing any one of them says matters much if at all...

I see what you're trying to say, but it does matter because the "undecideds" and uneducated voterse listen to these "useless windbag talking heads."

[Mr Majestyk]

"All" is a gross oversimplification. The media can and does provide useful information to individuals able to discern hype from facts.

[BP]

I have to disagree, I'm not defending Clinton because it came across as scripted just like everything else she does, but presidents are humans too and one thing humans do is show emotion. Bush held the tears back but you could see it in his eyes when he addressed the country after the 9.11 attacks, if he had showed no emotion then I would be worried.)

To not show emotion would have meant he's a psychopath. Not really a good quality for a president.

[ceyko]

I see what you're trying to say, but it does matter because the "undecideds" and uneducated voterse listen to these "useless windbag talking heads."

Where else do you get your education about politicians? IMO, the only way we have to learn about them is to read as much stuff as you can. Newspapers, TV, Military articles (VA, AL, VFW...etc), hell...even forums.

Unless you're with the candidates everyday, you have no other way to really know what they do as opposed to say.

Just like the American public does not have a clue what goes on in military environmnets. The media sucks - the way to get both sides is from people who "were there" and other articles that show the other side.

Take care,

[jones4stangs]

Ok, we're not talking aligator tears here but a sign of weakness.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/85609
Oh man, naw I didn't like that.
If you're not talking about a dead loved one, I don't what to see you getting choked up.

I woman who is going to lead men must be a bitch! Anything less won't be respected.

[Sean88gt]

I finally saw the footage of the wench last night. Those looked like crocodile tears to me. "There's so much good to be done"... :rolleyes:

It would have been fine, had it been warranted, but it just wasn't. "Hey look! The cunt running the country is sobbing again, our only hope is that the terrorists are afraid of rain"

[Denny]

I have to disagree, I'm not defending Clinton because it came across as scripted just like everything else she does, but presidents are humans too and one thing humans do is show emotion. Bush held the tears back but you could see it in his eyes when he addressed the country after the 9.11 attacks, if he had showed no emotion then I would be worried. A lot of politicians come across as fake but only because we force them to live up to impossible standards, they have a little bit of a soul left you know ;)
Are you comparing holding tears back after 9/11 to crying after a campaign ass-whooping? Please!

And yes, Presidents are human and have emotion, but not in front of the country. It's their time to be bold and confident when the people need someone to be. That person is our ultimate representative.

[Muffrazr]

How about menopause? What the fuck is she gonna do with us then? Bill will be screwed and hopefully he'll get the shit end of the stick. How old is she anyway?

[ayzo]

Are you comparing holding tears back after 9/11 to crying after a campaign ass-whooping? Please!


LOL no, i'm just saying we have to accept our politicians for who they are. All this showed us is that Clinton just isn't ready to run a country, much less a campaign. But a little display of emotion isn't always a bad thing, before Romney cried on meet the press I thought he was just zombie Nixon. Now at least I know theres a human underneath that hair.

[ceyko]

LOL no, i'm just saying we have to accept our politicians for who they are. All this showed us is that Clinton just isn't ready to run a country, much less a campaign. But a little display of emotion isn't always a bad thing, before Romney cried on meet the press I thought he was just zombie Nixon. Now at least I know theres a human underneath that hair.

You mean a campaign, muchless a country right? Or do I have that whole thing backwards?

[ayzo]

You mean a campaign, muchless a country right? Or do I have that whole thing backwards?

LOL yea my bad, i've been up for 19 hours now i'm too lazy to do any proofreading.

[White trash wagon]

It appears to be "not yet".

[Vertnut]

How about menopause? What the fuck is she gonna do with us then? Bill will be screwed and hopefully he'll get the shit end of the stick. How old is she anyway?
She just had her 60th birthday bash.