I write to you, Barack and Hillary.

[Slowhand]

Over the break, my government professor gave my class an assignment over the 2008 Presidential race and that we could write about whatever aspect of the race we wanted, so I chose to write to my fellow classmates about why I see voting for Barack and Hillary is a poor choice.

To the few lefties on this board: read the whole fucking thing before you make one of the retarded statements that seem to be so typically of the rhetoric of the liberals on this site.

And so it begins:

Perhaps what the two of you are doing is a good thing...that is, if we were living in a socialist country.

However, the United States has never been, nor should it ever be, a socialist country. We are a country founded upon the basics of freewill and democracy, but most of all, we are a country founded upon capitalism.

Kid yourself all you want, lefties, but the reason our country exists today is purely out of financial motivation. Let’s flip through the pages of our not-oft used textbooks and do a small amount of background reading. George III was, for lack of a better phrase, taxing the shit out of English colonists living in the New World. Colonists get pissed off, Colonists get guns, Colonists loosely band together, and Colonists kick limey ass. So keep this in mind for future reference within this mini-essay: Americans themselves are (on an elementary basis) created out of a desire for an economic system free from government control.

Spell ‘socialism’, speller #1776.
“Definition, please.”
“Socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.”

Our founding fathers established this country in an attempt to free themselves from the economic pressures of a socialist. However, does it not seem like the democratic frontrunners’ government programs (and although Hillary’s plans grossly overshadow Obama’s, don’t be fooled into thinking he does not align with the same train of thought) are exactly the opposite of what our founding fathers intended to happen?

But even furthermore, I find it shocking that so many young people are latching onto the ideas that Barack is presenting to us all. In a generation that prides itself on our ability to “make ourselves” and create our own paths, why are we willing to accept the ideas of a man that wants to take what is ours and give it to other people? If I wanted to provide charity, I would donate to Goodwill. Not only that, we are most definitely a generation that will bitch and moan about the destruction of civil liberties until the cows come home (especially the lefties of our generation; see: increased visibility of the ACLU in the late 20th and early 21st centuries), yet we’re willing to let someone take our money in the name of the “Greater Good?” I’m willing to pay my share of taxes to support the country, but at the same time, I’m not going to have my money taken from me only to be told what doctors to whom I can go to seek sub-par healthcare. Competition (most notably competition in economic markets) has made this country into what we know it as today, and the regressive, socialist plans of the Democratic candidates will slowly lead to the downfall of this country’s economic prowess. Think “Russia circa 1989).” Have fun left wing loonies, I’ll be somewhere else.

For all I know, Socialism may be a great system, and maybe Barack and Hillary are right (I’m giggling as I type both of these statements). However, Socialism isn’t America. I’m not saying that your ideas are wrong, but a vote for a Democrat in this race is a vote against all that America stands for. Try Canada, or even better, France, if you want socialism. But allow those of us who want to preserve freewill to let freedom ring within the United States.
This does not go to say that the Republican candidates are correct in all of their viewpoints by any means, but I’ve yet to see a Republican candidate in this race take a stance that has been so unequivocally un-American as those that Barack and Hillary have taken themselves up with.

Now, with my departure for Switzerland (hopefully) at semester’s end, perhaps this will be a problem I won’t have to live through. I will have 4 years to myself in one of Europe’s more conservative (fiscally, at least; just as socially liberal as the rest of Europe, which I should be ok with) countries. However, I plan to come back to the states after college for at least short period of time, and that is a period of time in which I want to be able to enjoy myself and my money.
I’m not telling you how to vote, just to think about how the decision you make will affect you not today, but 10, 20, and 30 years down the road.

End.

Discuss...I might even make a few changes if you fuckers convince me to. But don't get your hopes up coughBADLX302cough or whatever you changed your name to.

[SlowLX]

Over the break, my government professor gave my class an assignment over the 2008 Presidential race and that we could write about whatever aspect of the race we wanted, so I chose to write to my fellow classmates about why I see voting for Barack and Hillary is a poor choice.

To the few lefties on this board: read the whole fucking thing before you make one of the retarded statements that seem to be so typically of the rhetoric of the liberals on this site.

And so it begins:

Perhaps what the two of you are doing is a good thing...that is, if we were living in a socialist country.

However, the United States has never been, nor should it ever be, a socialist country. We are a country founded upon the basics of freewill and democracy, but most of all, we are a country founded upon capitalism.

Kid yourself all you want, lefties, but the reason our country exists today is purely out of financial motivation. Let’s flip through the pages of our not-oft used textbooks and do a small amount of background reading. George III was, for lack of a better phrase, taxing the shit out of English colonists living in the New World. Colonists get pissed off, Colonists get guns, Colonists loosely band together, and Colonists kick limey ass. So keep this in mind for future reference within this mini-essay: Americans themselves are (on an elementary basis) created out of a desire for an economic system free from government control.

Spell ‘socialism’, speller #1776.
“Definition, please.”
“Socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.”

Our founding fathers established this country in an attempt to free themselves from the economic pressures of a socialist. However, does it not seem like the democratic frontrunners’ government programs (and although Hillary’s plans grossly overshadow Obama’s, don’t be fooled into thinking he does not align with the same train of thought) are exactly the opposite of what our founding fathers intended to happen?

But even furthermore, I find it shocking that so many young people are latching onto the ideas that Barack is presenting to us all. In a generation that prides itself on our ability to “make ourselves” and create our own paths, why are we willing to accept the ideas of a man that wants to take what is ours and give it to other people? If I wanted to provide charity, I would donate to Goodwill. Not only that, we are most definitely a generation that will bitch and moan about the destruction of civil liberties until the cows come home (especially the lefties of our generation; see: increased visibility of the ACLU in the late 20th and early 21st centuries), yet we’re willing to let someone take our money in the name of the “Greater Good?” I’m willing to pay my share of taxes to support the country, but at the same time, I’m not going to have my money taken from me only to be told what doctors to whom I can go to seek sub-par healthcare. Competition (most notably competition in economic markets) has made this country into what we know it as today, and the regressive, socialist plans of the Democratic candidates will slowly lead to the downfall of this country’s economic prowess. Think “Russia circa 1989).” Have fun left wing loonies, I’ll be somewhere else.

For all I know, Socialism may be a great system, and maybe Barack and Hillary are right (I’m giggling as I type both of these statements). However, Socialism isn’t America. I’m not saying that your ideas are wrong, but a vote for a Democrat in this race is a vote against all that America stands for. Try Canada, or even better, France, if you want socialism. But allow those of us who want to preserve freewill to let freedom ring within the United States.
This does not go to say that the Republican candidates are correct in all of their viewpoints by any means, but I’ve yet to see a Republican candidate in this race take a stance that has been so unequivocally un-American as those that Barack and Hillary have taken themselves up with.

Now, with my departure for Switzerland (hopefully) at semester’s end, perhaps this will be a problem I won’t have to live through. I will have 4 years to myself in one of Europe’s more conservative (fiscally, at least; just as socially liberal as the rest of Europe, which I should be ok with) countries. However, I plan to come back to the states after college for at least short period of time, and that is a period of time in which I want to be able to enjoy myself and my money.
I’m not telling you how to vote, just to think about how the decision you make will affect you not today, but 10, 20, and 30 years down the road.

End.

Discuss...I might even make a few changes if you fuckers convince me to. But don't get your hopes up coughBADLX302cough or whatever you changed your name to.
wow I hope you don't expect them actually read that, I mean they wouldn't anyways since you're just a highschool kid and they're kind of busy. But no candidate would take a letter seriously from someone who couldn't refrain from shit and fuck for a short essay?

[Slowhand]

wow I hope you don't expect them actually read that, I mean they wouldn't anyways since you're just a highschool kid and they're kind of busy. But no candidate would take a letter seriously from someone who couldn't refrain from shit and fuck for a short essay?

it's not a letter to them at all. perhaps the title is poorly phrased.

and although I'm just a highschool kid, I will be voting in the upcoming election.

and the profanity probably does need editing.

edit: W flipped off a camera rolling tape one time, so I figure small doses of profanity shouldn't be an issue.

[mopar63]

Well Spoken without being to tough on them.

[DOHCTR]

fuck politics

[Slowhand]

fuck politics

if only it were that simple.

politics can be annoying as fuck, but they're also a part of your daily life whether you like it or not. even if you don't take politics into account, they're effecting your life.

[DOHCTR]

if only it were that simple.

politics can be annoying as fuck, but they're also a part of your daily life whether you like it or not. even if you don't take politics into account, they're effecting your life.
politics have never actively affected my everyday life

I have enjoyed the same standard of living under bush's administation that I did under clintons. Who gives a shit.... with the system we have in place right now, its too damn hard to get any shit done or come to an understanding on any significant issue.

I stopped caring when I realized this.

[Slowhand]

politics have never actively affected my everyday life

I have enjoyed the same standard of living under bush's administation that I did under clintons. Who gives a shit.... with the system we have in place right now, its too damn hard to get any shit done or come to an understanding on any significant issue.

I stopped caring when I realized this.

I won't disagree with that, but for most of Clinton's administration, both of us were far too young to notice.

and on a daily basis, you won't notice, but longterm, the way things are going, you will. anyone aged 30-40 probably didn't notice Social Security (aside from the gaping hole in their paychecks) on a daily basis, but longterm, they're now seeing that the politics of it has fucked them.

I used to care a lot more about politics until I realized 1. that I didn't know shit about politics and 2. I couldn't find a reason that I cared so much, so I stopped caring for the most part. recently I've ramped back up in my zeal for politics, but still to a lesser degree than before.

[Slowhand]

politics have never actively affected my everyday life


you're supposed to leave the dumb, ignorant comments for me :rolleyes:

[slow99]

Not bad at all. If your teacher is a grammar Nazi, I'd clean it up a bit. I thought you were going to Baylor for school. :confused:

[Vertnut]

politics have never actively affected my everyday life

I have enjoyed the same standard of living under bush's administation that I did under clintons. Who gives a shit.... with the system we have in place right now, its too damn hard to get any shit done or come to an understanding on any significant issue.

I stopped caring when I realized this.
If you are pre-med as you have stated, you'd better start caring about politics. Politics will VASTLY affect your career, one way or the other.

[DOHCTR]

you're supposed to leave the dumb, ignorant comments for me :rolleyes:
I said actively, not passively. By meaning, a bill has never been passed that completely altered my way of life even in the slightest.

[DOHCTR]

If you are pre-med as you have stated, you'd better start caring about politics. Politics will VASTLY affect your career, one way or the other.
From what I have seen, it wont really matter.


Even if medicine becomes "socialized", the elite will still pay to see a doctor who has credentials, rather than the guy who accepts all medicare/medicaid and has a 2 month waiting list.

I figure you open up a practice where there are a lot of elderly, wealthy baby boomers and fly a banner that says "MEDICARE NOT ACCEPTED", then your golden. But in all honesty, im not in it for the money.... and IMO no doctor should be. Do I think it would be ridiculous for young men and women who spent 4 years in med school to get paid a low government-mandated salary? Yes! But lets get real... that wont happen. What inspiration would one have to go through additional schooling if only a minimum wage lifestyle was guaranteed?

Any wise guy in washington could figure that out. Im not one for politics or economics, but if you take away the incentive of financial gain/security, then the motivation to go above and beyond the societal standard is eliminated.



While typing this rant, I was reminded yet again why I hate politics.

[mikeb]

I started caring a lot more about politics when I started my own business, and realized that the bozos in congress could cost me a lot of money. I also started caring when I realized that some politicians want to create legislation that takes the country the wrong way (ie: towards socialsm, or bankruptcy with elaborate giveaway programs). Social security is already broke, i'll probably never see a cent of what i've already paid in during my retirement. The politician thieves robbed social security for years to fund other, questionable purposes and now the bill has come due. I'll wager that most of the people on the hill have never read or studied the constitution.

[Slowhand]

Not bad at all. If your teacher is a grammar Nazi, I'd clean it up a bit. I thought you were going to Baylor for school. :confused:

Professor could care less about grammar (JuCo ftw! although I myself am a grammar nazi, just not when...high) or profanity.

I was just about locked into Baylor an International Finance major that I'd really like to do along with maybe doing a double major in economics. plus, it's Eurpoe...I figure why the hell not?

[Slowhand]

I started caring a lot more about politics when I started my own business, and realized that the bozos in congress could cost me a lot of money. I also started caring when I realized that some politicians want to create legislation that takes the country the wrong way (ie: towards socialsm, or bankruptcy with elaborate giveaway programs). Social security is already broke, i'll probably never see a cent of what i've already paid in during my retirement. The politician thieves robbed social security for years to fund other, questionable purposes and now the bill has come due. I'll wager that most of the people on the hill have never read or studied the constitution.

reasons I care about the politics of now, becuase in 20 years, they could make or break our lives, country, and world.

[Mustangman_2000]

Not bad, but not good at the same time. If you want it to be something to be taken into real consideration, then you need to refrain from curse words and being heaving handed when you introduce a statement.

Considering this is a college paper to be submitted for a grade, I would clean up the language and don't address the Democrats as "lefties". That is a colloquial slang word for a political ideology that is not appropriate in a real essay. It makes you come across as being a smart ass. That is apropos for DFWStangs, but I would go a different direction on a school paper. That is if you want to come across as a mature, educated, and reasoned individual. If this is just something you're writing to simply vent your frustrations, then ignore my previous comments.

Here is my constructive criticism....

You seem to have a genuine interest in the subject of politics and don't seem to talk like a complete idiot. However, certain portions of your essay quickly reveals your age. If you address that one issue, I think you'll be well rounded.

Don't infuse too much emotion and try to be dispassionate as humanly possible without compromising your position. It is possible to do so, without using curse words or antagonism, being overt or carefully concealed.

Good luck.

[Slowhand]

Not bad, but not good at the same time. If you want it to be something to be taken into real consideration, then you need to refrain from curse words and being heaving handed when you introduce a statement.

Considering this is a college paper to be submitted for a grade, I would clean up the language and don't address the Democrats as "lefties". That is a colloquial slang word for a political ideology that is not appropriate in a real essay. It makes you come across as being a smart ass. That is apropos for DFWStangs, but I would go a different direction on a school paper. That is if you want to come across as a mature, educated, and reasoned individual. If this is just something you're writing to simply vent your frustrations, then ignore my previous comments.

Here is my constructive criticism....

You seem to have a genuine interest in the subject of politics and don't seem to talk like a complete idiot. However, certain portions of your essay quickly reveals your age. If you address that one issue, I think you'll be well rounded.

Don't infuse too much emotion and try to be dispassionate as humanly possible without compromising your position. It is possible to do so, without using curse words or antagonism, being overt or carefully concealed.

Good luck.

If this was an essay essay, I completely agree with you, but this is really just a non-formal paper that she's having us write over the break, and she really just let's us throw our ideas down without much concern for structure as long as it's coherent and makes a point.

That said, it could be a lot better like you said, but thanks for pointing those few things out to me; I'll keep them in mind for the future.

[exlude]

You seemed to have changed who you were talking to about midway through the essay without ever addressing your new audience.

I can't tell if you are calling Clinton and Obama "lefties" or if you are talking to the "lefties" in your class, which may be the problem. Either keep to one audience or make it a clearer transition.

I liked the spelling bee prose, however, it seemed to jump out of nowhere. Again, a transitional error. But this is stylistic and doesn't change the meaning at all (like my last point), so it's your choice. I just think it breaks up the essays flow.

Past that, if it were more formal, I would take a more formal (less namecalling, less emotes) approach. But you seem to see the lax writing already, so do whatcha want.

[01WhiteCobra]

Ummm... America wasn't founded on Capitalism.

[exlude]

Ummm... America wasn't founded on Capitalism.

Good point, didn't even think about that.

[Slowhand]

Ummm... America wasn't founded on Capitalism.

that's really not exactly what I was trying to say. more of that the capitalistic drive we see today out of this country is directly related to the economic climate that sparked our seperation from England, and that it is a cornerstone of our country.

[Vertnut]

that's really not exactly what I was trying to say. more of that the capitalistic drive we see today out of this country is directly related to the economic climate that sparked our seperation from England, and that it is a cornerstone of our country.
Religious freedom had a little to do with that split, too...

[Yale]

The economic impetus to us being split from England had more to do with a few rich people recognizing a good hustle and deciding to take it over. Beyond that, a vote for either party is the same. It's become a popularity contest run by the same shit bags, pandering to the same shit bag special interests on both sides. Think a Republican won't fuck us up economically? You haven't been paying attention.