You go Vlad!

[01WhiteCobra]

Citing sources inside the president's administration, Belkovsky claims that after eight years in power Putin has secretly accumulated more than $40bn (£20bn). The sum would make him Russia's - and Europe's - richest man.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2230924,00.html

[Muffrazr]

Isn't that something. I thought I heard that Time magazine made him a person of the year. Is that true?

[01WhiteCobra]

Yup.

[Denny]

Ladies and gentlemen... may I present to you, the Anti-Christ!

[Muffrazr]

Ladies and gentlemen... may I present to you, the Anti-Christ!


I've had him and the latest Pope lined up for nomination of Anti-Christ for a while now.

[Fox466]

Ladies and gentlemen... may I present to you, the Anti-Christ!


What all points you to that conclusion? Specifically what predictions/prophecies etc?

<---curious

[Denny]

I've had him and the latest Pope lined up for nomination of Anti-Christ for a while now.
He MIGHT end up being a one-world religon pontieff or something. I doubt it's this guy, though.

[Denny]

What all points you to that conclusion? Specifically what predictions/prophecies etc?

<---curious
Eastern European, anti-semetic, very influential, etc. I wasn't totally serious, but I've got my eye on him.

[Fox466]

Eastern European, anti-semetic, very influential, etc. I wasn't totally serious, but I've got my eye on him.

I'm curious as to what biblical prophecies come to bear in it. Still wish I could find a listing of things like that that have been born out.

[Muffrazr]

What all points you to that conclusion? Specifically what predictions/prophecies etc?

<---curious



Mine is just a gut feeling from observing him and his non-verbal communications compared to what he actually says. I just basicly don't trust him at all. Add that with Denny's notes and you get why I feel that way.

As for the Pope, I don't really know why I don't trust him. He just gives me odd thoughts when I try to figure him out. It's almost like every time I watch him speak my skin begins to crawl and whatnot.

[Denny]

I'm curious as to what biblical prophecies come to bear in it. Still wish I could find a listing of things like that that have been born out.
I've agreed with everything this guy talks about as far as identifying the AC, but the fact that he doesn't think that Putin is. Most of his findings/research lead all back towards Putin. Look at the biblical referencing.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Anti-ChristsProphecies.html

Who else can come from the North of Isreal with an army greater than theirs AND have the influence of most of the world at that time AND can have 10 nations with their backing AND pull off a treaty that'll put the rest of the world at peace with Israel?

[Denny]

Mine is just a gut feeling from observing him and his non-verbal communications compared to what he actually says. I just basicly don't trust him at all. Add that with Denny's notes and you get why I feel that way.

As for the Pope, I don't really know why I don't trust him. He just gives me odd thoughts when I try to figure him out. It's almost like every time I watch him speak my skin begins to crawl and whatnot.
The AC will have a religious leader to form his one-world religion.

[Denny]

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104415262&gclid=CNmU2-aAupACFQqiQQod3HPfGA

[Denny]

This word is used only by the apostle John. Referring to false teachers, he says (1 John 2:18,22; 4:3; 2 John 1:7), "Even now are there many antichrists."

the "little horn" of the "king of fierce countenance" (Dan. 7:24-25; 8:23-25).

the "false Christs" spoken of by our Lord (Matt. 24:5, 23-24).

the "man of sin" described by Paul (2 Thess. 2:3-4, 8-10).

the "beast from the sea" (Rev. 13:1; 17:1-18).

[JP135]

Who else can come...

You know, I grew up being told that the Pope is the AntiChrist. In fact, the London Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689 officially makes it the position of the Baptist Church that the Pope is the AntiChrist.
http://www.fbcrh.org/doctrine.htm
Of course, that's been long since tossed to the wind.

I don't think Putin is the guy either.

But how does this sound? I keep thinking that it will be someone from Islam who will fill the shoes of the AntiChrist. Please discuss...

WHY DO GOOD THREADS COME ALONG WHEN I HAVE TO LEAVE?

[Muffrazr]

Well, the prediction that Nostradamus made stated the 3rd Anti-christ will wear a blue robe. I think it mentioned some sort of headdress, but I'm not sure on that. Of course, Nostradamus isn't the greatest source, but I gathered the prediction seemed to be towards a middle eastern, possibly Islamic person.

[01WhiteCobra]

It will be interesting in Russia next year. Putin is up against term limits so he can't run again in March (2 consecutive terms) but he could run again in 2012.

He did mention he would become Prime Minister, if choosen, if the United Russia party won in 2008 (his party).

[Mustangman_2000]

After reading through this thread. It looks to me like it's in the wrong forum.

Theology is a few blocks over.

[Denny]

After reading through this thread. It looks to me like it's in the wrong forum.

Theology is a few blocks over.
Religion and Politics are synonomous. As much as people hate to admit it, they are.

[Zarathustra]

Ladies and gentlemen... may I present to you, the Anti-Christ!

You're a sick man...

[Zarathustra]

Religion and Politics are synonomous. As much as people hate to admit it, they are.


What? Could you explain, maybe back this claim?How do you figure?

What is your major argument behind this nonsense?

[01WhiteCobra]

Religion and Politics are synonomous. As much as people hate to admit it, they are.

Of course they are. Well, other than atheist USSR.

[Denny]

What? Could you explain, maybe back this claim?How do you figure?

What is your major argument behind this nonsense?
All of person's beliefs derive from the same place, be it a religious topic, political topic, etc. Whatever their stances are based on, their foundation comes from one inner source. Laws, morals, punishments, etc... even "non-religious" people have a religion of some sort and it's what drives them to make ANY decision.

[Vertnut]

What? Could you explain, maybe back this claim?How do you figure?

What is your major argument behind this nonsense?
The entire Middle East is fucked because of religious differences...you of all people on this fucking earth should know that.

[Denny]

Of course they are. Well, other than atheist USSR.
If that's their religion ;)

[Denny]

Every single decision a person makes is based religiously, if you really think about it.

[Muffrazr]

Every single decision a person makes is based religiously, if you really think about it.


In a vague sense of the word, yes. Beleif system or ideals would be better suited if I were to state something similar, but that's my opinion. I get what you're saying, though.

[01WhiteCobra]

If that's their religion ;)

Technically, atheism would be a religion.

So would these dudes.

http://www.venganza.org/


P.S. I have included an artistic drawing of Him creating a mountain, trees, and a midget. Remember, we are all His creatures.

http://www.venganza.org/him2.jpg

[AL P]

Technically, atheism would be a religion.

So would these dudes.

http://www.venganza.org/

You god damn zealot...just put it in your sig!!!

[01WhiteCobra]

You god damn zealot...just put it in your sig!!!

I must spread the good word of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Back to the topic... I don't care what Vlad believes in. The dude has 40 billion stashed away and that is damn impressive for a 55 year old... I don't care if you believe in God, Bhuda, Mohammed or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I'm materialistic, sue me.

[Muffrazr]

I must spread the good word of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Back to the topic... I don't care what Vlad believes in. The dude has 40 billion stashed away and that is damn impressive for a 55 year old... I don't care if you believe in God, Bhuda, Mohammed or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I'm materialistic, sue me.


Maybe I will sue you, then I can be rich.

[01WhiteCobra]

Maybe I will sue you, then I can be rich.

Bring it. One of my early life lessons... get to be friends with as many lawyers as you possibly can. :D

[Muffrazr]

Bring it. One of my early life lessons... get to be friends with as many lawyers as you possibly can. :D


Oh yeah.......well, I'll go resurrect Johnny.

[Zarathustra]

All of person's beliefs derive from the same place, be it a religious topic, political topic, etc. Whatever their stances are based on, their foundation comes from one inner source. Laws, morals, punishments, etc... even "non-religious" people have a religion of some sort and it's what drives them to make ANY decision.


This inner root of all decision making and cognitive action is loosely referred to as the psyche. Some people refer to it as the soul, but for sake of discussion, we'll call it a psyche. Non-religious people lack a religion, and rely on themselves as an end, in and of themselves. They typically denounce religion as an institution, the religion they hold according to you, would be more accurately referred to as a psyche's sense of spirituality. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with this the psyche as a whole, lending nothing to one's immediate thoughts and actions. It is only when one conjures up a master-slave mentality enough to bring and accept as true a religion in their life that they draw on the spiritual side of the psyche (soul). This religion acts as a second-check on all of their daily activities, including but not limited to laws, morality, justice, virtue. These things are completely possible results of cognitive actions brought forth by humans, but none of them requires the presence of some type of god.

All that being said, you still didn't say how religion and politics are synonymous.

[Fox466]

Every single decision a person makes is based religiously, if you really think about it.


When I decide to go take a dump Denny, the closest it gets to religion is when I let loose with an "Oh my God"...


<--- Straight to hell...

[black01gt]

Bring it. One of my early life lessons... get to be friends with as many lawyers as you possibly can. :D
Mine works for a bottle of Gentleman Jack. :D

[Denny]

This inner root of all decision making and cognitive action is loosely referred to as the psyche. Some people refer to it as the soul, but for sake of discussion, we'll call it a psyche. Non-religious people lack a religion, and rely on themselves as an end, in and of themselves. They typically denounce religion as an institution, the religion they hold according to you, would be more accurately referred to as a psyche's sense of spirituality. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with this the psyche as a whole, lending nothing to one's immediate thoughts and actions. It is only when one conjures up a master-slave mentality enough to bring and accept as true a religion in their life that they draw on the spiritual side of the psyche (soul). This religion acts as a second-check on all of their daily activities, including but not limited to laws, morality, justice, virtue. These things are completely possible results of cognitive actions brought forth by humans, but none of them requires the presence of some type of god.

All that being said, you still didn't say how religion and politics are synonymous.
I seriously think that you just want to oppose anything I just, even if it makes you looks as stupid as possible... that's cool. It's your religion ;)

[mikeb]

The AC will have a religious leader to form his one-world religion.

look for a link with catholicism.

[Denny]

look for a link with catholicism.
Ya, I'm thinking it's coming from there as well. Their structure is almost that of the old Jewish Sanhedrin, politically speaking, right before their collapse. They will soon be moving towards judging themselves from within. Once they get there, it'll be a no-brainer.

[Zarathustra]

I seriously think that you just want to oppose anything I just, even if it makes you looks as stupid as possible... that's cool. It's your religion ;)


Yea. And dodging contradicting questions after making outrageous claims is your religion...

[01WhiteCobra]

Religion or not, Vlad got some serious cash.

[Zarathustra]

That's for damn sure. But not anywhere near the amount that gw has acquired while he's been in office alone. Who knew being president could set you and your grandkids up for life?

[01WhiteCobra]

That's for damn sure. But not anywhere near the amount that gw has acquired while he's been in office alone. Who knew being president could set you and your grandkids up for life?

40 Billion? Nah... the Bush Dynasty doesn't have 40 billion... yet.

[Stng5Pnt8]

http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

[black01gt]

http://www.bushisantichrist.com/
That's amazing. I always thought the antichrist would be smarter and have some class.

Perhaps Cheney is the antichrist and Dubya and Rove are his deciples?

Just playin...shit's too heavy for me. Even though I know it's real.

[Zarathustra]

40 Billion? Nah... the Bush Dynasty doesn't have 40 billion... yet.

Yea right. They probably had that before the second term started.

[01WhiteCobra]

Yea right. They probably had that before the second term started.

Nah, GW has a few mil squirreled away in CDs, mutual funds, US treasuries and a tree farm company.

The Bush Dynasty is probably the most successful political dynasty in American history. Prescott started the dynasty back in the early 1900s when he was a political advisor to Hoover.

But, Prescott married smart when he married Dorothy Walker. The Walker family was a widely connected family in banking and business.

GW's daddy continued in the process of marrying smart when he married Barbara.

Barbara's daddy was Marvin Pierce. Marvin was the President of the McCall Corporation (Redbook and McCall magazines).

Barbara was also a descendant of Franklin Pierce, the 14th President of the US (maternal grandfather of GW Bush.)

This concludes our worthless trivia portion of today. Thanks for reading.

[Zarathustra]

My pleasure, sir.


Smells like illuminati...

[mikeb]

http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

I see that the writer of that piece has a little issue with the bible verses that suggest the antichrist will come from the middle east. Isaiah's prophecies refer to the antichrist as the "Assyrian" and "the king of Assyria" (The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria). John speaks about the origin of the antichrist in Revelation 13, which ties into Daniel 7.

[Zarathustra]

Yawn...

[mikeb]

Yawn...

JOB 11:12 But a witless man can no more become wise than a wild donkey's colt can
be born a man :D