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clean89
11-10-2007, 12:50 PM
those of you who juice how do you get clomid and other meds to offset the test intake. Go into dr's office and say hey i need this b/c im doing this or what?

You can pm me if you dont want to answer on the fourm.

Tyrone Biggums
11-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Gonna try and beat up the dude your ex is banging?

davbrucas
11-10-2007, 01:00 PM
Clomid used to offset test intake? Man, you have some reading to do. Maybe you should put the needle down before you hurt yourself? :rolleyes:

Stangin4Lyfe
11-10-2007, 02:55 PM
Clomid used to offset test intake? Man, you have some reading to do. Maybe you should put the needle down before you hurt yourself? :rolleyes:
LOL
Dave, don't you know test is bad for you man!
:D

GRAYHORSE
11-10-2007, 03:32 PM
You have bitch tits aready?? J/K


I wish i could try a cycle. :o

clean89
11-10-2007, 03:53 PM
I have read just using that med as an example

Clomid used to offset test intake? Man, you have some reading to do. Maybe you should put the needle down before you hurt yourself? :rolleyes:

clean89
11-10-2007, 04:09 PM
Dave I have your post about the offsetting meds. And no I am not wanting to get big to beat someones ass lol. I have 6 months until I move back to the metro and want to get a jump start.

agiraldo
11-10-2007, 04:17 PM
hell Yeah.

Get BIG or Die Tryin' :) lol.

Honestly go to www.steroid.com
and do some research on the shit.

davbrucas
11-10-2007, 04:22 PM
:D This isnt candy you are dealing with. You need to research everything prior to starting. You can get the PCT and ancillary meds at the following sites...

http://www.cemproducts.com/
http://www.chemoneresearch.com/index.php
http://www.ar-r.com/shop/default.php?cPath=23&osCsid=97d658ec4a36e16292c16ff4f5b4a64c
http://www.researchchemist.com/home.shtml

clean89
11-10-2007, 06:11 PM
thanks alot. I am reading alot right now and will make sure I do it right.

ThreeFingerPete
11-10-2007, 06:16 PM
So are you pretty big now, or are you just looking for the easy way?

Wario
11-10-2007, 06:24 PM
Why juice, what type of competition are you doing?

davbrucas
11-10-2007, 06:24 PM
LMAO...you think because someone uses AAS they are taking the easy way? Most people that use work out as hard or harder than the non-user since they have more invested...but I see your point. Either way, you have to lift that heavy ass iron! :)

ThreeFingerPete
11-10-2007, 06:25 PM
Why juice, what type of competition are you doing?

I think he's in the running for the semi annual HNIC comp, trying to win the Bad Motherfucker Wallet.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-11-2007, 09:29 AM
LMAO...you think because someone uses AAS they are taking the easy way?
YES
:p

My 2 cents on it:
It's a lot harder getting a NA car down the track as fast as a power adder car.
But if you have it at your disposal and choose to take that path, so be it.
It's just not a fair comparison.

Bullitt3246
11-11-2007, 08:17 PM
I think it's okay to use steroids as long as your not competing in a competition. I mean you only live once so why not look and feel the way you want?


People always say it's cheating.... It's cheating if you are competing in a sport.

Who is it cheating if you are some normal person doing it because you want to?

My .2 cents! I did it in high school when I was young and dumb. From what I've heard and learned, I don't think younger guys (under 21) need to take it because it can mess up or stop your natural test production.

ELP89stang
11-13-2007, 03:16 PM
I think it's okay to use steroids as long as your not competing in a competition. I mean you only live once so why not look and feel the way you want?


People always say it's cheating.... It's cheating if you are competing in a sport.

Who is it cheating if you are some normal person doing it because you want to?

My .2 cents! I did it in high school when I was young and dumb. From what I've heard and learned, I don't think younger guys (under 21) need to take it because it can mess up or stop your natural test production.
Completely true but as a reminder you take them the right way or you face the consequences. My recommendation is if you don't at least have a good work out routine and good size on you don't mess with it till the basics are required my .02 cents

JP135
11-13-2007, 03:22 PM
Gonna try and beat up the dude your ex is banging?

She's not banging anyone!

The Raven
11-14-2007, 03:36 PM
If you have to ask, you are no where near educated enough to be taking anabolic steroids.

Tyrone Biggums
11-14-2007, 04:06 PM
She's not banging anyone!

Anyone but me.

ruffdaddy
11-14-2007, 08:44 PM
As someone whose worked out hard for the past 8 years to get where I am...I'd say It is taking the easy way out. If I would have juiced...I would be fucking huge with half the workout. The only way i'd say it's acceptable is if you're over 35.

On the same note I don't necessarily look down on it. I've had alot of friends do it...and have been very tempted. But there's just something about being able to say I'm natural...and not be a liar.

The Raven
11-14-2007, 09:47 PM
I would be fucking huge with half the workout.

This sentence is pure ignorance.

DON SVO
11-14-2007, 10:03 PM
It's very tempting. I have relatively easy access to about anything I want, and a host of people who know how to properly administer what I'd like to take. However, I have no ambition to enter into any kind of serious competition, and as such I won't do it. I would love to go thru 2 8-week cycles of dbol oral.

ruffdaddy
11-14-2007, 10:14 PM
This sentence is pure ignorance.

Please go into detail workout god.....

DON SVO
11-14-2007, 10:24 PM
Please go into detail workout god.....

I think what he's getting at is that you still to work out just as much, you just achieve the results a lot faster.

ruffdaddy
11-14-2007, 10:40 PM
I think what he's getting at is that you still to work out just as much, you just achieve the results a lot faster.

I'm confident that i could juice and cut back on my workouts...and still see more results.

GRAYHORSE
11-14-2007, 10:41 PM
Please go into detail workout god.....


I agree with you. A lot of pro's workout for less than 30min.

ruffdaddy
11-14-2007, 11:04 PM
I agree with you. A lot of pro's workout for less than 30min.

I'm not saying I'm a pro...and I'm not saying I'm as big as a pro. That's a rediculous comparison. My livelyhood is not based on my physique. Keep in mind huge for me is 205+ at 8%

306LX
11-14-2007, 11:54 PM
[QUOTE=agiraldo]
Get BIG or Die Tryin' :) lol.
QUOTE]
Shit i hope not..

clean89
11-15-2007, 02:21 AM
I am researching now. I agree if I do it I will do it correctly. At my age I personally dont see a problem doing it correctly.

White_lightning
11-15-2007, 08:18 AM
I'm confident that i could juice and cut back on my workouts...and still see more results.
is that because you work out like a bitch?:) your your genetics suck?:)

JUST KIDDING:)


when it comes to juicing. i reccomend naturaly squeezed orange juice.. or cranberry... nothing works better:)

exlude
11-15-2007, 08:47 AM
I'm a big fan of apple juice, lots of sugar.

The Raven
11-15-2007, 09:28 AM
I'm confident that i could juice and cut back on my workouts...and still see more results.

That's you being lazy, not the juice. Anybody I've talked or read about on the boards works out harder and havier while on, as they have more invested, and a more intense desire to make gains. Sure, it can make life easier for a lazy-ass, but that's not the purpose.

BTW, 205lbs at any decent height is not "big".

Stangin4Lyfe
11-15-2007, 10:05 AM
205 = FLYWeight!!!
:D

428SCJ
11-15-2007, 12:01 PM
Hell, I'm 35 wish i could find a good Dr. in the area ;)

White_lightning
11-15-2007, 12:08 PM
205 = FLYWeight!!!
:D
no way.. 205.. is heavy....




for a dumbell:)

ruffdaddy
11-16-2007, 08:00 AM
That's you being lazy, not the juice. Anybody I've talked or read about on the boards works out harder and havier while on, as they have more invested, and a more intense desire to make gains. Sure, it can make life easier for a lazy-ass, but that's not the purpose.

BTW, 205lbs at any decent height is not "big".

If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.

GRAYHORSE
11-16-2007, 08:32 AM
If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.

Im 5'11 205 @ 10% and im no where near huge. :(

Stangin4Lyfe
11-16-2007, 09:17 AM
Keep in mind guys...he said the majority of the people.
Unfortunately, the majority of the people in the United States...don't workout at all!
:D
If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.

White_lightning
11-16-2007, 09:57 AM
If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.
its all relative.. im consider myself small for a lifter:(

The Raven
11-16-2007, 10:23 AM
If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.


That's crux of this disease, I thought the same thing when I was smaller. Now that I'm 215@10% I want 220.

The Raven
11-16-2007, 10:24 AM
Keep in mind guys...he said the majority of the people.
Unfortunately, the majority of the people in the United States...don't workout at all!
:D

For the "majority", 205lbs is small. The obesity rate in this country is outta control.

5111
11-16-2007, 10:28 AM
I'm 6'3" @ 285 and I don't think I'm big.

Stangin4Lyfe
11-16-2007, 10:38 AM
For the "majority", 205lbs is small. The obesity rate in this country is outta control.
Yea, definately becoming more and more Big Bertha's out there!

ruffdaddy
11-16-2007, 11:22 AM
its all relative.. im consider myself small for a lifter:(

small for a lifter...huge for a bowling ball...hahaha just kidding.


and exactly...it's all relative...

The Big Matt
11-16-2007, 12:50 PM
my theory is if you can't spell juicing correctly you probably don't need to be sticking needles in your ass!

ThreeFingerPete
11-16-2007, 06:57 PM
my theory is if you can't spell juicing correctly you probably don't need to be sticking needles in your ass!

That's what oral anabolics are for. ;)

The Big Matt
11-16-2007, 07:59 PM
If you aren't injecting you're wasting your time.

Stack as much as you can take man!

Rajin
11-20-2007, 03:16 PM
Using Nolva doing a cylce will depend on how much gear you are taking. In most case if running 500mg of Test a week you may not need Novla which helps stop bitch tit including other things. Clomid is used after Post cycle treatment or PCT. This is used to get your testes back working again and producing the Test your body use to make. A lot of this stuff you can get off line with no problem. I'm 40 and been cycling now for about a year and I can sy this. It's not what you think it is.

AAS is not going to make you into a monster unless you take large amounts of it and the cost alone would make you think twice about doing it. Also AAS does not create muscle it makes your body more efficent at how it up takes protiens. If you think doing one cycle will have you looking like some buff ass dude your wrong. unless you have a great looking body at first then you have a long road to build it. Yes it is quicker than being natty but still you have to work hard rest and eat a lot of food or your wasting your time and hurting your body in the long run.

You hear guys putting on 20lbs and everyone says wow I want to do that. I put on 18lbs in no time but you have to remember 12 lbs is going to be water your body holds from the AAS which after your finish your AAS you will loose the water and loose the weight. You may put on 10lbs a year of solid muscle that you keep if you know what your doing. That means the right diet and workout routeen..

AAS is safe but you have to be smart and don't try to achive to much to soon this is how people get hurt. Be smart and take a slow road will get you what I have and for my age is pretty good being I only have been doing it a year but I have done a year of research and still do research till this day..

ELVISKLEIN
11-20-2007, 04:31 PM
Using Nolva doing a cylce will depend on how much gear you are taking. In most case if running 500mg of Test a week you may not need Novla which helps stop bitch tit including other things. Clomid is used after Post cycle treatment or PCT. This is used to get your testes back working again and producing the Test your body use to make. A lot of this stuff you can get off line with no problem. I'm 40 and been cycling now for about a year and I can sy this. It's not what you think it is.

AAS is not going to make you into a monster unless you take large amounts of it and the cost alone would make you think twice about doing it. Also AAS does not create muscle it makes your body more efficent at how it up takes protiens. If you think doing one cycle will have you looking like some buff ass dude your wrong. unless you have a great looking body at first then you have a long road to build it. Yes it is quicker than being natty but still you have to work hard rest and eat a lot of food or your wasting your time and hurting your body in the long run.

You hear guys putting on 20lbs and everyone says wow I want to do that. I put on 18lbs in no time but you have to remember 12 lbs is going to be water your body holds from the AAS which after your finish your AAS you will loose the water and loose the weight. You may put on 10lbs a year of solid muscle that you keep if you know what your doing. That means the right diet and workout routeen..

AAS is safe but you have to be smart and don't try to achive to much to soon this is how people get hurt. Be smart and take a slow road will get you what I have and for my age is pretty good being I only have been doing it a year but I have done a year of research and still do research till this day..


Good you know what you are talking about..... Me = HGH, test, clem. 215 lbs 450bench. I should weigh 175-180 natural. Took long as fuck to get there.

dewayne6243
11-21-2007, 09:25 PM
For the "majority", 205lbs is small. The obesity rate in this country is outta control.

How many bodybuilding shows have you done? Probably none. 205 is considered heavy weight and I promise you at 225 would look like a joke to the 205 guys. I am at 202 right now at 8-9% fat 5'8 and I am not huge but I am damn big. When you get to your 225 level get on stage with me and I will show you how small you look compared to my tiny size :rolleyes:

By the way SILVIO SAMUEL was 194 when he got his Pro card with 21" arms. Small guy huh? :rolleyes:

http://www.thebiguniverse.com/savioursworld/w7.jpg

http://www.thebiguniverse.com/savioursworld/IMG_1137_wm.jpg

Stangin4Lyfe
11-21-2007, 10:45 PM
LOL, I guess when you're as tall as a midget it doesn't matter egh?

dewayne6243
11-21-2007, 10:52 PM
LOL, I guess when you're as tall as a midget it doesn't matter egh?

Rather be a midget than look like a fag like you. And yes I have see you before. Didn't you pose with your nipples pierced and you pulled your cock back between your legs?

Stangin4Lyfe
11-22-2007, 01:54 AM
Rather be a midget than look like a fag like you. And yes I have see you before. Didn't you pose with your nipples pierced and you pulled your cock back between your legs?
LOL, don't get so defensive bro.
I don't have nothing against short people, I just don't consider 205 "big".

White_lightning
11-22-2007, 11:16 AM
lol. it cracks me up when ppl start throwing out pics of juice monkeys comparing them to natural lifters.. i would rather be build like aaron and know im natural. then like that dude in the pic and be sticking a needle in my ass.

I guess i will repersent the fat NATURAL lifters..

Natural fatty (http://home.tx.rr.com/feldmonster/pics/flex2.jpg)

Badass2000gt
11-23-2007, 09:51 AM
How many bodybuilding shows have you done? Probably none. 205 is considered heavy weight and I promise you at 225 would look like a joke to the 205 guys. I am at 202 right now at 8-9% fat 5'8 and I am not huge but I am damn big. When you get to your 225 level get on stage with me and I will show you how small you look compared to my tiny size :rolleyes:

By the way SILVIO SAMUEL was 194 when he got his Pro card with 21" arms. Small guy huh? :rolleyes:

http://www.thebiguniverse.com/savioursworld/w7.jpg

http://www.thebiguniverse.com/savioursworld/IMG_1137_wm.jpg
And how tall is that freak. 5'2? Wow he's big. :rolleyes:

GRAYHORSE
11-23-2007, 10:47 AM
And how tall is that freak. 5'2? Wow he's big. :rolleyes:


He's huge, placed top 10 at the olympia this year. 5'7" i think.

White_lightning
11-23-2007, 12:09 PM
He's huge, placed top 10 at the olympia this year. 5'7" i think.

what is funny.. is you take a 200lbs 5'7" "natural body builder" and the same stats juice monkey. and the juicer is always bigger.. is it even a fair comparison?

GRAYHORSE
11-23-2007, 03:41 PM
what is funny.. is you take a 200lbs 5'7" "natural body builder" and the same stats juice monkey. and the juicer is always bigger.. is it even a fair comparison?


It is if we're talking about who is bigger. Just like the powerlifting comps i do. Im one of the only natural ones there but it dosent matter. 600lbs is 600lbs. Yeah it's a disadvantage but still impressive.

GetYanked
11-23-2007, 10:46 PM
Unless ur making money from ur body it isnt worth juicing.

The Raven
11-26-2007, 09:18 AM
How many bodybuilding shows have you done? Probably none. 205 is considered heavy weight and I promise you at 225 would look like a joke to the 205 guys. I am at 202 right now at 8-9% fat 5'8 and I am not huge but I am damn big. When you get to your 225 level get on stage with me and I will show you how small you look compared to my tiny size :rolleyes:

By the way SILVIO SAMUEL was 194 when he got his Pro card with 21" arms. Small guy huh? :rolleyes:

http://www.thebiguniverse.com/savioursworld/w7.jpg

http://www.thebiguniverse.com/savioursworld/IMG_1137_wm.jpg

Having a little bout with creatine rage? "Majority" is in quotes becasue I was talking about the multitude of fatasses feeding on Mickey D's and Starbucks, hence talking about the rate of obesity. As for 202 being "damn big", it's all relative.

dewayne6243
11-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Having a little bout with creatine rage? "Majority" is in quotes becasue I was talking about the multitude of fatasses feeding on Mickey D's and Starbucks, hence talking about the rate of obesity. As for 202 being "damn big", it's all relative.


Just giving u a hard time :p

ridestang
12-01-2007, 04:24 PM
well i just finished my first cycle of decca & winstrol & i saw results i have not seen naturally. im not huge but damm the ladies love it when i take my shirt off & not mention i went up 50lbs in bench & just got stronger than ever.also a fuking fuck beast i mean 3-4 times a day everyday. i live in a border town & the juice is fuckin cheap lmk what you fellas need lol

Nate
12-01-2007, 06:45 PM
EL OH EL @ /\ Guy.