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Cody B
11-06-2007, 09:52 PM
I just signed up to a gym and I have been reading online getting a routine together as well as a diet.
I do have a question about lifting weights.
I see that they have routines with different equipment. IE: Barbells, Dumbells,Lever, and cable. I see where you can do the same exercise with each one although some do hit different muscles.
Can you all tell me what the difference is between each one as far as: Is one better than the other?

Thanks alot,

The Raven
11-06-2007, 10:35 PM
I just signed up to a gym and I have been reading online getting a routine together as well as a diet.
I do have a question about lifting weights.
I see that they have routines with different equipment. IE: Barbells, Dumbells,Lever, and cable. I see where you can do the same exercise with each one although some do hit different muscles.
Can you all tell me what the difference is between each one as far as: Is one better than the other?

Thanks alot,

Barbells are more suited to heavier lifts and compound movements, whereas cables and dumbells are good for "finishing off" a particular muscle.

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 07:49 AM
Barbells are more suited to heavier lifts and compound movements, whereas cables and dumbells are good for "finishing off" a particular muscle.
this is true. and it also boils down to prefference.. Some ppl like doing say incline with barbells. i preffer dumbells. you are pretty much limited by your gym. It would be pointless for some ppl to do dumbell bench because the dumbells just dont go high enough.. or dumbell dead lift. You need to fine tune your routine and stick with it. IE i dont do straight bar curls PERIOD. puts way to much un needed pressure on the lower back, but with dumbells i can still go fairly heavy and built an above average sized arm..

The important thing is you need to get your basics form down and concentrate on keeping that form GOOD and your work outs intense.

Nate
11-07-2007, 08:43 AM
What about seated straight bar curls?

The Raven
11-07-2007, 09:43 AM
What about seated straight bar curls?


Preacher curls still strain the back, but not near as much. IMO for the average sized person, either are fine, as they aren't swinging heavy weight.

Nate
11-07-2007, 09:44 AM
Preacher curls still strain the back, but not near as much. IMO for the average sized person, either are fine, as they aren't swinging heavy weight.
lol like I'm moving any kind of "heavy" weight.

I have increased on my Military press 40 lbs from when I started :D ...I won't stay what I started at or what I'm at though because it's down right embarrassing. :o

ruffdaddy
11-07-2007, 09:46 AM
Chalk, Steroids, Bench shirt, and Hydroxycut...that's all you need to know!

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 10:01 AM
Chalk, Steroids, Bench shirt, and Hydroxycut...that's all you need to know!
if you are using chalk.. you dont need staroids.

ThreeFingerPete
11-07-2007, 10:02 AM
if you are using chalk.. you dont need staroids.

But you may still need spell check.

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 10:31 AM
But you may still need spell check.
lol.im not even going to go back and fix that.. i just fat fingered it completly..

:(

mustangpete4.6
11-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Cody B

What is your goal? Are you looking to put on size, conditioning, cutting down extra weight?

If you are looking for add size then here's what you need to know. First off, stay with the basics. The means using freeweights and basic compound movements, ie: benchpress, incline benchpress, shoulder press, dumbbell benchpress, laterals, side laterals, bentover dead press, pull ups, chins, deadlifts, squats, hack squats, front squats, stiff legged dead lifts, leg curls, standing calf raise. Stay with these at first, about 6 weeks, and you will notice a difference. Just keep it simple.

The Raven
11-07-2007, 10:33 AM
lol like I'm moving any kind of "heavy" weight.

I have increased on my Military press 40 lbs from when I started :D ...I won't stay what I started at or what I'm at though because it's down right embarrassing. :o


You started at 5lbs?! :p

ruffdaddy
11-07-2007, 10:33 AM
But you may still need spell check.

LMMFAO

if you are using chalk.. you dont need staroids.

I have found that blending the chalk with the juice then site injecting produces the best result. Unless you want to take it up a notch and try the stage 3 performance enhancer...Chalk laced with cocaine + Riods.

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 10:37 AM
LMMFAO



I have found that blending the chalk with the juice then site injecting produces the best result. Unless you want to take it up a notch and try the stage 3 performance enhancer...Chalk laced with cocaine + Riods.
cocaine is a helleva drug...

Nate
11-07-2007, 10:45 AM
You started at 5lbs?! :p
on each side of the bar at least! give me some credit...

damn bar is heavy though. :o

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 01:04 PM
on each side of the bar at least! give me some credit...

damn bar is heavy though. :o
hey.. all i do is the bar!! now come lift with me:)

Nate
11-07-2007, 01:18 PM
hey.. all i do is the bar!! now come lift with me:)
I don't want to lower you guys intensity or slow you down.

Maybe after the new year when I no longer have access to UTA's gym for free.

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 01:20 PM
hell im just trying to keep up with aaron.. one day i will lift real weight too:(

Stangin4Lyfe
11-07-2007, 01:26 PM
hell im just trying to keep up with aaron.. one day i will lift real weight too:(
Me too!

On another note, I hit 275 x 6(for 3 sets) Barbell shoulder press at 5am this morning.
F-in diet is killing me though!
Not bad for being 4 weeks back in the game...

DON SVO
11-07-2007, 01:48 PM
I LOVE dumbell presses. I had a lot of issues with bench press due to form and control. Doing a lot of dumbell press helped me develop a lot of control, and my bench is responding well. There's nothing like good form. :)

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 01:57 PM
Me too!

On another note, I hit 275 x 6(for 3 sets) Barbell shoulder press at 5am this morning.
F-in diet is killing me though!
Not bad for being 4 weeks back in the game...
right now im not going above 275 or 315 for seated miltary press. mainly because im doing it with a fucked up left rotator cuff and bursitis in my right shoulder... i can tell that the diet definaly pulled my reps down.. i had 275 for sets of 8-10.. under 1800 cal a day droped me to well below that.

DON SVO
11-07-2007, 01:59 PM
right now im not going above 275 or 315 for seated miltary press. mainly because im doing it with a fucked up left rotator cuff and bursitis in my right shoulder... i can tell that the diet definaly pulled my reps down.. i had 275 for sets of 8-10.. under 1800 cal a day droped me to well below that.

Get your ass up to 2,700 calories, and bust at least 700 of them right after the workout!

GRAYHORSE
11-07-2007, 02:23 PM
Cody B, which gym you at? LA Fitness or Lifetime, assuming you're in Mckinney...

Oh, these guys are all weak and dont know shit. :D

White_lightning
11-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Get your ass up to 2,700 calories, and bust at least 700 of them right after the workout!
naa im good around 1800:) im trying to lose wegiht.. at 2700 i start packing on beaf like no bodys bussines

cessar aguirre
11-07-2007, 08:27 PM
chalk what is that ?

White_lightning
11-08-2007, 12:17 AM
chalk what is that ?
BHAHAHAHAHAH

ruffdaddy
11-09-2007, 09:49 AM
chalk what is that ?

You don't need to pick up an addiction...stay away from it.

flashstang04
11-09-2007, 03:31 PM
Barbells ftw

White_lightning
11-09-2007, 09:55 PM
Barbells ftw
ummm no.. not really.. i built 21" arms with dumbells.. havent curled a barebell since i hit 16"

ThreeFingerPete
11-10-2007, 12:06 AM
ummm no.. not really.. i built 21" arms with dumbells.. havent curled a barebell since i hit 16"

Yeah, and Jefferson Starship built this city on rock and roll. That doesn't mean it works for everyone.

Cooter
11-10-2007, 12:11 AM
curls... that's all you need!

White_lightning
11-10-2007, 07:38 AM
Yeah, and Jefferson Starship built this city on rock and roll. That doesn't mean it works for everyone.
my point exactly. and neither do barbells.