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11-01-2007, 11:48 AM

WE CAN ONLY PRAY...

Cowher: Brady could be target of cheap shot

Wednesday, Oct 31, 2007 4:13 pm EDT
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As the New England Patriots pour it on opponents, fans have to be wondering about it and Tuesday former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher said it: If the Patriots keep running up the score, will someone like Tom Brady will be the victim of a retaliatory hit?

The subject of the Pats' late-game tactics is causing a lot of buzz around the NFL, particularly after Sunday's 52-7 victory over the Washington Redskins. On a CBS conference call with reporters Tuesday. Cowher noted the Patriots could be playing a dangerous game.

"At some point if this continues, someone's going to take a cheap shot,'' Cowher said. "Is that worth subjecting your players to if it comes to that?''

Osiris

11-01-2007, 11:50 AM

HAHA! Holy shit.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 11:51 AM

I hadn't thought about it that way, but there are some crazy fucks out there and I wouldn't put it past a scorned pyscho fan.

What a fucking pussy move though. :rolleyes:

A+

11-01-2007, 11:57 AM

What a fucking pussy move though. :rolleyes:
whatever it takes bcoop.......what ever it takes....

slow99

11-01-2007, 11:59 AM

I hadn't thought about it that way, but there are some crazy fucks out there and I wouldn't put it past a scorned pyscho fan.

I think he's referring to a cheap shot by a player to injure Brady.

jims93lx

11-01-2007, 12:04 PM

Yeah, I have been wondering about that myself. SOmeone is going to light him up and then the Pats are gonna be done. Without Brady, that team is done

bcoop

11-01-2007, 12:05 PM

I think he's referring to a cheap shot by a player to injure Brady.

I missed the first line of "Cowher: Brady could be target of cheap shot". :o

I DEFINITELY wouldn't doubt that. In fact, I was hoping for Roy to run him down and horse collar his ass so hard it would break his ankles when they were playing Dallas. :o :D

bcoop

11-01-2007, 12:06 PM

Yeah, I have been wondering about that myself. SOmeone is going to light him up and then the Pats are gonna be done. Without Brady, that team is done

That's retarded. You could put ANY QB with little talent in to that offense, and still win. :rolleyes:

Txstang1

11-01-2007, 12:07 PM

It would be a pussy move, but... this is football , they better protect his ass!!!

If Brady gets hurt, I can hear it already: Cheap shot this, cheap shot that. Even if it is a legit hit.

Txstang1

11-01-2007, 12:08 PM

That's retarded. You could put ANY QB with little talent in to that offense, and still win. :rolleyes:
I don't know about that!

Big Studly

11-01-2007, 12:20 PM

It would be a pussy move, but... this is football , they better protect his ass!!!

If Brady gets hurt, I can hear it already: Cheap shot this, cheap shot that. Even if it is a legit hit.

I actually think Cower just saved Brady from a cheap shot....you would have to be one dumb mother fucker to go out and do it now

bcoop

11-01-2007, 12:20 PM

I don't know about that!

They've got one of the best, if not the best offensive lines in the NFL. Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Maroney, Morris, etc. Hell, even Faulk gets the #'s up.

You could plug Major Applewhite in to that offense, and win. Period. :rolleyes: You're on crack if you think a mediocre QB couldn't cut it. :D

bcoop

11-01-2007, 12:21 PM

I actually think Cower just saved Brady from a cheap shot....you would have to be one dumb mother fucker to go out and do it now

Why? I'd do it. How in the fuck are you going to prove someone injured him with ill intent? If you know what you're doing, they can't prove shit....

Big Studly

11-01-2007, 12:25 PM

Why? I'd do it. How in the fuck are you going to prove someone injured him with ill intent? If you know what you're doing, they can't prove shit....

because on purpose or not, it is going to be thought of as a cheap shot. Whoever does it will be made out to be a sorry piece of shit regardless of intent.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 12:29 PM

because on purpose or not, it is going to be thought of as a cheap shot. Whoever does it will be made out to be a sorry piece of shit regardless of intent.

Yeah, but it'd be worth it. :D ;)

MR TINFOIL HAT

11-01-2007, 12:32 PM

You can't hurt the man of steel. I think that would be the only thing that can stop the patriots. If it does happen, please let it be after this sunday so I can win my bet. :D

The Big Matt

11-01-2007, 12:39 PM

That's retarded. You could put ANY QB with little talent in to that offense, and still win. :rolleyes:

No way Brent.

Look at the years Randy Moss was with Oakland, or Welker with Miami, etc...

Brady is leading that team, hands down, without him they definately wouldn't be winning right now.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 12:43 PM

No way Brent.

Look at the years Randy Moss was with Oakland, or Welker with Miami, etc...

Brady is leading that team, hands down, without him they definately wouldn't be winning right now.

Yeah. Who else was in Oakland? Who was throwing to him? Why did he have a reason to try there? Oakland sucks, has sucked, and will continue to suck. He was extrememly unhappy there, knowing he wouldn't go anywhere. That has a lot to do with why he didn't produce.

EXACT same fucking situation in Miami, with Welker. You can't ignore that. ;)

NE has the whole package. You can plug in just about anyone, in to that package and win. How can you people not see that?

Shorty

11-01-2007, 01:01 PM

whoever does it will go down in the history of football as the guy that injured Brady. even if it's a cheap shot within the rules.

hell, who doesn't think of (the original) LT as the guy that broke Theisman's leg? And that wasn't even a cheap shot, just hilarious.

regaltip

11-01-2007, 01:04 PM

yeah Barkley said the same thing yesterday on PTI... I would love to see someone like Ray Lewis do it. Don't think anyone would think it's a cheap shot then. Ray Lewis is a killa!!!

Paladin

11-01-2007, 01:04 PM

Vertnut

11-01-2007, 01:06 PM

Yeah. Who else was in Oakland? Who was throwing to him? Why did he have a reason to try there? Oakland sucks, has sucked, and will continue to suck. He was extrememly unhappy there, knowing he wouldn't go anywhere. That has a lot to do with why he didn't produce.

EXACT same fucking situation in Miami, with Welker. You can't ignore that. ;)

NE has the whole package. You can plug in just about anyone, in to that package and win. How can you people not see that?
I disagree. I don't like Brady or New England, but he's the fucking man. His accuracy is the best in the league. He didn't have Moss last year or the years before, and he was the man. With someone else back there, the timing is totally different.

Jimi G

11-01-2007, 01:08 PM

They will get theirs when Peyton puts it to them this weekend. Mark my words the Colts are gonna shock the world Ali style, lol.

spankustang

11-01-2007, 01:12 PM

I think the Pats are going to win, but I don't think it would "shock the world" if the Colts won!!! The Pats are only a 6 point fav. I think!!

Txstang1

11-01-2007, 01:17 PM

Yeah. Who was throwing to him? Thought it didn't matter?

NE has the whole package. You can plug in just about anyone, in to that package and win. How can you people not see that?

Jimi G

11-01-2007, 01:18 PM

I think the Pats are going to win, but I don't think it would "shock the world" if the Colts won!!! The Pats are only a 6 point fav. I think!!

You are correct on the spread, but the way everyone is talking it sounds like a 26 point spread. I got faith in my Colts and Manning.

HoLLoWkaTZ

11-01-2007, 01:34 PM

If you think about it they are pretty much the same team. Lots of offensive weapons and good defenses. I think this one is going to come down to special teams, or just whoever has the ball last. They know each other pretty well, with the exception of New England's new receiving core. Maybe that will be their edge, but I hope the Colts can pull it out.

Pro Trash

11-01-2007, 01:34 PM

They've got one of the best, if not the best offensive lines in the NFL. Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Maroney, Morris, etc. Hell, even Faulk gets the #'s up.

You could plug Major Applewhite in to that offense, and win. Period. :rolleyes: You're on crack if you think a mediocre QB couldn't cut it. :D

I believe it is ignorant to think you can replace Brady and simply keep rolling. That guy is as elite as they come in the QB position. I think they'd be successful but not as dominant as they are now. He sets a rythm, understands every aspect of that offense, can read defenses and is very cool under pressure. The coaching staff as well as the entire offense trust him, it would not be the same with any other QB.

Juiceweezl

11-01-2007, 01:49 PM

No way Brent.

Look at the years Randy Moss was with Oakland, or Welker with Miami, etc...

Brady is leading that team, hands down, without him they definately wouldn't be winning right now.
Brady is the team leader, but any decent QB could get under center for that team and win 12-15 games a year. Heck, several of the TD's Moss has are just jump balls he went up and got. He never put up that effort for other teams. If Trent Dilfer were the Patriots' QB, they'd probably be 6-2 at worst right now and quite possibly 7-1 or 8-0. Remember, they're schedule has been soft in the defensive secondary.

Slowhand

11-01-2007, 01:50 PM

I actually think Cower just saved Brady from a cheap shot....you would have to be one dumb mother fucker to go out and do it now

fuck that. i'd still do it.

Txstang1

11-01-2007, 01:50 PM

Brady is the team leader, but any decent QB could get under center for that team and win 12-15 games a year. Heck, several of the TD's Moss has are just jump balls he went up and got. He never put up that effort for other teams. If Trent Dilfer were the Patriots' QB, they'd probably be 6-2 at worst right now and quite possibly 7-1 or 8-0. Remember, they're schedule has been soft in the defensive secondary.
Bullshit. Brady is probably the most accurate and best decision making passer in the game.

Juiceweezl

11-01-2007, 01:51 PM

I love the people who think it is okay to cheap shot someone who can play better or has a better team. I can just hear them say "Yeah, we are both professional teams, but they beat us so bad I want to injure their QB."

Waaah!
It's one thing to beat someone badly, but it's another to embarass them. Take the other week when Brady came out, the backup threw a pick, and Brady went back in. That's stupid. In baseball, if you're up 7 runs late in the game and you steal a base, soemone's getting chin music. It's part of the game. All of the Pats are running the risk of taking an aggressive, late hit with the way they have been rubbing faces in it. I'd watch my back if I were them.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 01:54 PM

I disagree. I don't like Brady or New England, but he's the fucking man. His accuracy is the best in the league. He didn't have Moss last year or the years before, and he was the man. With someone else back there, the timing is totally different.

I'm not saying Brady isn't the fucking man. He is, and his record proves it. I think some of you are misinterpreting what I'm saying.

I'm saying you can plug just about any QB behind that O line, with those receivers and backs, and still win.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 01:55 PM

Thought it didn't matter?

What other player worth a fuck on offense, played in Oak while Moss was there?

bcoop

11-01-2007, 01:55 PM

I believe it is ignorant to think......

You went to A&M. Nuff said.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 01:56 PM

I think with Harrison out, the Colts don't stand as good of a chance. ;) I'd love to see them take the Patriots down, but if he doesn't play, it's going to have an undeniable impact on their chances.

Geor!

11-01-2007, 02:03 PM

Let me ask you pussies that are bitching one question: Were you bitching when the Cowboys ran the score up on the Bills in SB XXVII?

Then shut up about the Patriots.

Pro Trash

11-01-2007, 02:10 PM

You went to A&M. Nuff said.

Don't be jealous, also you're argument is weak about simply plugging another QB in.

bcoop

11-01-2007, 02:14 PM

Don't be jealous, also you're argument is weak about simply plugging another QB in.

:rolleyes: Go back to your hole. Or are we going to have to wait until A&M loses again this weekend? :p

No, the argument isn't weak. You just don't have a clue.

Txstang1

11-01-2007, 02:17 PM

Let me ask you pussies that are bitching one question: Were you bitching when the Cowboys ran the score up on the Bills in SB XXVII?

Then shut up about the Patriots.
I wasn't bitching then, and I wouldnt bitch if they beat Dallas 72-0. I wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't bitch about running up the score. If ya can't stop em, ya can't stop em.

HoLLoWkaTZ

11-01-2007, 02:22 PM

Hands down Brady is a winner. He won at Michigan, he has won in the NFL. He has never had the finger pointed at him for his on the field actions. Until somebody comes in there and proves they are better he will get his due credit.

Pro Trash

11-01-2007, 02:32 PM

:rolleyes: Go back to your hole. Or are we going to have to wait until A&M loses again this weekend? :p

No, the argument isn't weak. You just don't have a clue.

It's not a hole it is a classroom you a-hole :D . I am hopeful the Aggies will get the upset but I am prepared to root for my Aggies even if they fall behind. That is loyalty and fanship right there mister!

Cartman

11-01-2007, 03:37 PM

wow you all that wish a player would get hurt are low lifes. it is up to the other team to stop them, if they can't do it they can't do it.

what would make you more mad, running up the score or taking the ball to the 1 yard line and then doing 3 straight qb kneel plays? if ask me the latter is more of an insult saying look at what I can do and nothing you can do about it.

as for that kind of hit happened to Jim McMahon of the bears, I think it was a viking player that picked him up and slammed him on his shoulder, ending his playing days, and it was a late hit at that. the player got suspended for something like 5 games. if it happens like that and now the player is banned for life, do u think a player would risk it?

4.6 Love

11-01-2007, 04:53 PM

I hope it happens...just for kicks.. :D

Paladin

11-01-2007, 08:40 PM

It's one thing to beat someone badly, but it's another to embarass them. Take the other week when Brady came out, the backup threw a pick, and Brady went back in. That's stupid. In baseball, if you're up 7 runs late in the game and you steal a base, soemone's getting chin music. It's part of the game. All of the Pats are running the risk of taking an aggressive, late hit with the way they have been rubbing faces in it. I'd watch my back if I were them.

HS yes, college, maybe. But the pros? Nope, I disagree completely.

Paladin

11-01-2007, 08:41 PM

You went to A&M. Nuff said.

Where did you go?

306LX

11-01-2007, 08:58 PM

Juiceweezl

11-01-2007, 09:09 PM

hell yeah i wouldnt be surprised at all if it happened..cheap fucks would do that. but he also said if someone did that..they could be suspended for a whole year.. i saw it on ESPN last nite..let's just see if it happens..Brady fuckin rocks! Don't hurt the man cuz he's a great QB.
Please tell me you don't believe that. The league can't suspend someone a year like that. Even if they did, the union would appeal and it would be reduced.

Juiceweezl

11-01-2007, 09:11 PM

HS yes, college, maybe. But the pros? Nope, I disagree completely.
You don't watch much baseball then. Plenty of guys get thrown at and fights break out. Usually it's just pushing and shoving, but it happens. There are certain things you don't do. In baseball, it doesn't mean you go up to the plate and not try to hit, but it means you don't stretch a long single into a double and you don't steal bases while up a ton of runs. That's how people get thrown at at any level. Football is the same, but I think it takes more extreme stuff to make it happen. The issue here is that you just don't see NFL blowing people away each week like the Pats have been doing.

306LX

11-01-2007, 09:19 PM

Please tell me you don't believe that. The league can't suspend someone a year like that. Even if they did, the union would appeal and it would be reduced.
i dunno..thats just what he said last nite..jus passin on the word..im sure it wont be a year. just hope they dont hurt him really bad..if they do. he jus better watch his back.

bcoop

11-02-2007, 01:52 PM

Where did you go?

University of Nowhere. :p That's irrelevant, though. I had the sense to NOT go to A&M. ;)

Pro Trash

11-02-2007, 02:30 PM

University of Nowhere. :p That's irrelevant, though. I had the sense to NOT go to A&M. ;)

Yeah I can see how attending a top college, rich in tradition, with a strong alumni, some of the most beautiful women in Texas and a great sports program would be a turn off to someone :rolleyes:

bcoop

11-02-2007, 02:31 PM

Yeah I can see how attending a top college, rich in tradition, with a strong alumni, some of the most beautiful women in Texas and a great sports program would be a turn off to someone :rolleyes:

It's a turn off to me. If I had gone to college, it wouldn't have been any college in TX.

A+

11-02-2007, 02:42 PM

is it just me or does tom brady have a big ass head?

Cartman

11-02-2007, 05:20 PM

Please tell me you don't believe that. The league can't suspend someone a year like that. Even if they did, the union would appeal and it would be reduced.
if it is a late hit or one that the league thinks was on purpose they can and will throw the guy out of hte league

4.6 Love

11-02-2007, 05:35 PM

is it just me or does tom brady have a big ass head?
You mean you looked at his manhood? :eek:

NTAC25thT/A

11-03-2007, 12:31 AM

NTAC25thT/A

11-03-2007, 12:46 AM

some of the most beautiful women in Texas

Yeah, I really love it when the Aggies score a touchdown and it shows all of the fat girls kissing their boyfriends. Doesn't make me want to throw up at all.

Sean88gt

11-03-2007, 01:02 AM

That is precisely why they run it up in the first 2-3 quarters and then get him out of there.

Paladin

11-04-2007, 05:41 AM

You don't watch much baseball then. Plenty of guys get thrown at and fights break out. Usually it's just pushing and shoving, but it happens. There are certain things you don't do. In baseball, it doesn't mean you go up to the plate and not try to hit, but it means you don't stretch a long single into a double and you don't steal bases while up a ton of runs. That's how people get thrown at at any level. Football is the same, but I think it takes more extreme stuff to make it happen. The issue here is that you just don't see NFL blowing people away each week like the Pats have been doing.

So throwing a baseball at a hitter is the same as taking out a QB and possibly ending his career? Apparently you have no idea about sportmanship.

BTW, I have played and watched alot of baseball. Is it okay to throw at a batters head? That would be the same as taking out a QB and trying to injure him and end his career. The answer is no, it's not okay in baseball at any level to throw at the head.

Paladin

11-04-2007, 05:47 AM

University of Nowhere. :p That's irrelevant, though. I had the sense to NOT go to A&M. ;)

It's not relevant to ask where someone went to school who is ragging on a school they couldn't get into? Okay then. :cool:

Vertnut

11-04-2007, 06:38 AM

It's not relevant to ask where someone went to school who is ragging on a school they couldn't get into? Okay then. :cool:
This board is FULL of that shit.

On another note, I saw head to head numbers this morning in the DMN on Brady and Manning. Manning has a COMMANDING career lead in almost all stats (except Super Bowl wins!). We all know how QB's are remembered...Super Bowl wins.

Paladin

11-04-2007, 06:42 AM

This board is FULL of that shit.

On another note, I saw head to head numbers this morning in the DMN on Brady and Manning. Manning has a COMMANDING career lead in almost all stats (except Super Bowl wins!). We all know how QB's are remembered...Super Bowl wins.

I would bet that any QB who has the lead in the majority of offensive categories and no Super Bowl wins would gladly trade them for 2 or 3 Super Bowl wins. I know I would.

I bet Jim Kelly would be thought of as one of the greatest QB's in history if he had the same stats and had won 3 or 4 of those SB appearances he lost. I have never heard his name come up in talks about great QB's.

Vertnut

11-04-2007, 07:00 AM

I would bet that any QB who has the lead in the majority of offensive categories and no Super Bowl wins would gladly trade them for 2 or 3 Super Bowl wins. I know I would.

I bet Jim Kelly would be thought of as one of the greatest QB's in history if he had the same stats and had won 3 or 4 of those SB appearances he lost. I have never heard his name come up in talks about great QB's.
The difference between Elway and Marino? A Super Bowl win. My grandkids will know about Elway, while Marino and his "numbers" will be lost.