NEW Personal Best at the Cruise.......... Black 2000 Trans Am [Archive]

Forteen3GT

10-22-2007, 04:03 PM

I made a total of 10 nitrous passes on 2 ten lb bottles. 3 motor passes.

Best on Nitrous was a 6.48 @ 108mph....

Best on Motor was a 7.68 @ 94mph

Need to get a few more things and remove a few things to go faster!

on the to add list:

-New Converter
-Bottle heater
-Bottle Pressure Gauge
-Trans Brake

on the to remove lis:

-Passenger seat
-Rear Seats
-Weight and more weight

First time to take the car to the track in over a year... overall I am pleased with the results.

I had the progressive set from 55% to 100% and delays from 0 seconds to 4 seconds.... ran a 6.8, a few 6.6's (too many to count), a 6.5 and a 6.4.......

A week ago at 'Dale I ran a 7.89 on motor on one pass and 2 passes @ 7.9 seconds. I made a pretty good improvement to a 7.68 on the same drag radials. This converter just plain sucks without a brake and it is crap on motor! ....

OMEGA DOOM

10-22-2007, 04:05 PM

Damn congrats! I was wondering who's car that was? didn't you race another blue WS6?

Forteen3GT

10-22-2007, 04:06 PM

Damn congrats! I was wondering who's car that was? didn't you race another blue WS6?

yeah.. I ran faster... but he TREE'D me!

OMEGA DOOM

10-22-2007, 04:13 PM

yeah.. I ran faster... but he TREE'D me!who was that? :confused:

TOMMY

10-22-2007, 04:19 PM

So you were the guy that was surpose to race BBC? Not trying to start shit just trying to put a face with the car.

Juiced4V

10-22-2007, 04:26 PM

Looked slow to me :cool: congrats by the way...

DMcRacer

10-22-2007, 04:39 PM

Congrats on the new best!

Forteen3GT

10-22-2007, 05:27 PM

So you were the guy that was surpose to race BBC? Not trying to start shit just trying to put a face with the car.

yeah..... he said he wouldnt show... than showed... and I could only offer 200.00 on the race. Didnt come prepared to run him for the 500.00..... I then tried numerous times to line up with him to put em in his place with the progressive set on kill........ (which I was scurred to do the entire day).... and he had his boys from the shop move cars around at the box to keep it from happening.

That is about it.

FRANCISCO308

10-22-2007, 05:36 PM

yeah..... he said he wouldnt show... than showed... and I could only offer 200.00 on the race. Didnt come prepared to run him for the 500.00..... I then tried numerous times to line up with him to put em in his place with the progressive set on kill........ (which I was scurred to do the entire day).... and he had his boys from the shop move cars around at the box to keep it from happening.

That is about it.
when he ask you to run for $200 you should of taken it on tha spot.

GueSS Who ?

10-22-2007, 05:52 PM

when he ask you to run for $200 you should of taken it on tha spot.

Yep you should have.....You would have had to be the one driving though. BBC would have treeeeeeeeed you on the pro tree but you might have got him on the .4 pass

BTW....I went a full second faster then you with 2 more cubic inches and a a dry shot.....what is up with that....

It looked good though

bigcountry_5

10-22-2007, 07:18 PM

Damn congrats! I was wondering who's car that was? didn't you race another blue WS6?

The blue car is whitEGT on here, and Demon on the lsx boards. He busted fourteen3gt's ass not once, but twice. LOL Not bad for a cam, bolt ons, and a 100 shot against a forged heads, and cammed 408 with a plate on it. :D

OMEGA DOOM

10-22-2007, 07:26 PM

airbrush

10-22-2007, 10:01 PM

does were some dam good passes man nice car!!! :D :) :)

Forteen3GT

10-22-2007, 10:29 PM

when he ask you to run for $200 you should of taken it on tha spot.

uhhhh duuuh... I asked him to run for 200.00..... he chicken'd shit out.... said no. Yes... he woulda tree'd me.

Slow Five-O

10-22-2007, 10:57 PM

Looked slow to me :cool: congrats by the way...

x2 :D

Blue99Ws7

10-22-2007, 11:06 PM

next time we'll line them up it'll be a good race

Forteen3GT

10-23-2007, 06:57 AM

The blue car is whitEGT on here, and Demon on the lsx boards. He busted fourteen3gt's ass not once, but twice. LOL Not bad for a cam, bolt ons, and a 100 shot against a forged heads, and cammed 408 with a plate on it. :D

He tree'd me..... I wasnt even trying to hit a light. I was just T&T'ng all day.... needed to get some seat time leaving straight. BTW, I dont think he is running close to 6.6's.... but he is knockin out the 6.9's an 7.dohs!

SEB

10-23-2007, 07:06 AM

Congrats on your new times. I am sure they will get faster as you get the car dialed in. Its not gonna happen over night.

I started out running 7.70s last year on my old setup & got it down to solid 7.20 all day.

Im sure you will get the motor times down to some low 7 & some 6.10 on the jug. Good luck

TOMMY

10-23-2007, 08:57 AM

yeah..... he said he wouldnt show... than showed... and I could only offer 200.00 on the race. Didnt come prepared to run him for the 500.00..... I then tried numerous times to line up with him to put em in his place with the progressive set on kill........ (which I was scurred to do the entire day).... and he had his boys from the shop move cars around at the box to keep it from happening.

That is about it.

Cool..I was just wondering. Good luck with the car. Oh one more thing your car is really quite for a 408...

Forteen3GT

10-23-2007, 09:20 AM

Cool..I was just wondering. Good luck with the car. Oh one more thing your car is really quite for a 408...

very restrictive mufflers... i am thinking about some cutouts to unleash more powa!

STROKD

10-23-2007, 10:15 AM

Damn congrats, we'd be a VERY good run with you on motor... my best is a 7.8 @ 95 on street tires, and a 7.9 @ 97 on Nittos... ;) That was before the re-tune... ~ 20 rw less) dead stop or a roll we'd be within half a car I bet. too bad my car is here in storage. :(

Beenfetchedlately

10-23-2007, 11:56 AM

very restrictive mufflers... i am thinking about some cutouts to unleash more powa!

They arent chambered mufflers...How can they be restrictive? The exhaust sprials through some metal deflectors and never chnage its path to bounce around. Theres a tube the runs straight through the muffler as well so the exhaust pulses cancel the sounds out.

Is this another one of those things you read and listened to on the net?

SEB

10-23-2007, 12:29 PM

They arent chambered mufflers...How can they be restrictive? The exhaust sprials through some metal deflectors and never chnage its path to bounce around. Theres a tube the runs straight through the muffler as well so the exhaust pulses cancel the sounds out.

Is this another one of those things you read and listened to on the net?

Yeah whta are you thinking. Don't you know Fuckstick knows everything. :p

WhitEGT

10-23-2007, 01:27 PM

He tree'd me..... I wasnt even trying to hit a light. I was just T&T'ng all day.... needed to get some seat time leaving straight. BTW, I dont think he is running close to 6.6's.... but he is knockin out the 6.9's an 7.dohs!

It's run numerous 7.0's and normally traps 100, so once I get the conveter fixed it'll get there. It's embarassing to me that it runs what it does now though :o

Forteen3GT

10-23-2007, 01:37 PM

It's run numerous 7.0's and normally traps 100, so once I get the conveter fixed it'll get there. It's embarassing to me that it runs what it does now though :o

not bad at all...... I turned my car down that run, expected to kill ya after JP got us lining up...... but you tree'd the crap out of me... had to try to play ketchup with the progressive set too low. That is one of the reasons I want to flop to a 2 stage ;)

foofinator

10-23-2007, 06:41 PM

Sounds like our race is going to be a good one. Can't wait. Congrats on the awesome time.

Forteen3GT

10-23-2007, 09:53 PM

Sounds like our race is going to be a good one. Can't wait. Congrats on the awesome time.

awesome??? fuck that.... I am changing the setup... It needs to run SixTeens to make me happy. i want to run a 5.99.... but will be happy with a 6.19!

It needs a few things to do that. Are you in the same ballpark?? I know that with the big shot under 65mph it goes sideways on the street.... I am ditching the progressive and going with a 2 stage with a WOT and the 2nd on the button.

Forteen3GT

10-23-2007, 09:54 PM

awesome??? fuck that.... I am changing the setup... It needs to run SixTeens to make me happy. i want to run a 5.99.... but will be happy with a 6.19!

It needs a few things to do that. Are you in the same ballpark?? I know that with the big shot under 65mph it goes sideways on the street.... I am ditching the progressive and going with a 2 stage with a WOT and the 2nd on the button.

wont be bad for a full weight A/C'd daily driveable streetcar. :cool:

foofinator

10-24-2007, 01:53 AM

Your MPH suggests it will be a good run. I wonder if nitrous backhalves as well as a blower. :confused:

We'll find out!

Forteen3GT

10-24-2007, 09:09 AM

Your MPH suggests it will be a good run. I wonder if nitrous backhalves as well as a blower. :confused:

We'll find out!

nope... it normally does not. Turbo/Blower cars MPH much better. Nitrous cars typically 60ft better though. I am looking to do around 110mph in the 8th.... should out me close to 137 or so in the 1/4...... or a 9.7 ET in the 1/4..... I just need to get another converter and some odds and ends for the nitrous kit! :)

TINKRD

10-24-2007, 10:05 AM

nope... it normally does not. Turbo/Blower cars MPH much better. Nitrous cars typically 60ft better though. I am looking to do around 110mph in the 8th.... should out me close to 137 or so in the 1/4...... or a 9.7 ET in the 1/4..... I just need to get another converter and some odds and ends for the nitrous kit! :)

put a nano kit on the car and it'll back half like a blower car ;)

TINKRD

10-24-2007, 10:07 AM

awesome??? fuck that.... I am changing the setup... It needs to run SixTeens to make me happy. i want to run a 5.99.... but will be happy with a 6.19!

It needs a few things to do that. Are you in the same ballpark?? I know that with the big shot under 65mph it goes sideways on the street.... I am ditching the progressive and going with a 2 stage with a WOT and the 2nd on the button.

my car was making over 800ft/lbs and it held the tires from a 60 punch w/ 4.10 gears :confused:

Beenfetchedlately

10-24-2007, 10:48 AM

my car was making over 800ft/lbs and it held the tires from a 60 punch w/ 4.10 gears :confused:
He has the wrong relocation brackets on it...It probably will blow the tires loose. His wolfe bar isnt on the car yet and he didnt have someone to set up his pinion angle that knows how to do it on these cars :)

Forteen3GT

10-24-2007, 11:24 AM

He has the wrong relocation brackets on it...It probably will blow the tires loose. His wolfe bar isnt on the car yet and he didnt have someone to set up his pinion angle that knows how to do it on these cars :)

Pinion angle is set a -2 degrees, waiting on getting ahold of your boy at the end of the week for the bar, and the relos are UMI's made for the 9 inch..... they where installed by your boy....... he does good work. On the footbrake at 3k they bind up......you can hear/feel it. ;)

Beenfetchedlately

10-24-2007, 12:58 PM

Pinion angle is set a -2 degrees, waiting on getting ahold of your boy at the end of the week for the bar, and the relos are UMI's made for the 9 inch..... they where installed by your boy....... he does good work. On the footbrake at 3k they bind up......you can hear/feel it. ;)
-2 degrees by what method????

What bushings are in the control arms? Torque arm bushing? what was the corner weights of the car? -2 is not a magic number that will work for everyone...a pinion angle setting is an angle derived on a PER CAR BASIS...There you go with your internet taught lessons again...-2 -2 -2 Ra Ra Ra!

Beenfetchedlately

10-24-2007, 12:59 PM

Pinion angle is set a -2 degrees, waiting on getting ahold of your boy at the end of the week for the bar, and the relos are UMI's made for the 9 inch..... they where installed by your boy....... he does good work. On the footbrake at 3k they bind up......you can hear/feel it. ;) Its not the brackets binding up....thats your torque arm setup binding up....

I suppose UMI is supposed to know what these cars want because they make the products and they sell? riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Forteen3GT

10-24-2007, 01:45 PM

-2 degrees by what method????

What bushings are in the control arms? Torque arm bushing? what was the corner weights of the car? -2 is not a magic number that will work for everyone...a pinion angle setting is an angle derived on a PER CAR BASIS...There you go with your internet taught lessons again...-2 -2 -2 Ra Ra Ra!

sphyrical (sp) ends........ no bushings. clankity clank clank style! The Tq arm is a BMR extreme with the included mount. Car has not been scaled. It barely pulls the front wheels though. Weight transfer felt pretty good with the Pro-kit.

slownbmta

10-24-2007, 04:19 PM

The car doesnt leave hard enough to need much adjustment......

TINKRD

10-24-2007, 04:30 PM

The car doesnt leave hard enough to need much adjustment......

any difference between flashing the verter from say 1800'ish rather then foot braking it to 3500???

i know BBC and Josh flashed their's from 1800.

slownbmta

10-24-2007, 05:02 PM

any difference between flashing the verter from say 1800'ish rather then foot braking it to 3500???

i know BBC and Josh flashed their's from 1800.

Just have to play with it and see which way works best for each car/converter.

Forteen3GT

10-24-2007, 05:20 PM

Just have to play with it and see which way works best for each car/converter.

what did you do with your old POS AC stall?

btw: you know the best way to sell a car???? TEST DRIVE! ;) ;) ;)

slownbmta

10-24-2007, 05:31 PM

what did you do with your old POS AC stall?

btw: you know the best way to sale a car???? TEST DRIVE! ;) ;) ;)

I dont remember really :confused:

Nate

10-24-2007, 05:37 PM

I dont remember really :confused:
Sale/Sell...whatever you want to call it to me! :D

Beenfetchedlately

10-25-2007, 07:31 AM

The car doesnt leave hard enough to need much adjustment......

Thats probably right Josh, but there are so many ways people derive at -2 pinion angle and 99% of the ways Ive seen other people do it...aren't right.

For example:

John's wagon had -4 degrees at the pinion flange......Take the drive shaft angle into consideration and it was more on the -2 you seek with solid mounting points.

Just because you have -2 pinion angle at the flange doesn't mean you measured it correctly much less does it mean that the -2 measured at your pinion flange is correct!

Andrew

10-25-2007, 08:30 AM

Thats probably right Josh, but there are so many ways people derive at -2 pinion angle and 99% of the ways Ive seen other people do it...aren't right.

For example:

John's wagon had -4 degrees at the pinion flange......Take the drive shaft angle into consideration and it was more on the -2 you seek with solid mounting points.

Just because you have -2 pinion angle at the flange doesn't mean you measured it correctly much less does it mean that the -2 measured at your pinion flange is correct!

Why would anyone measure just at the flange?