Go Longhorns...

[davbrucas]

Looking like champs today. :rolleyes: Losing in the 4th quarter to a scrub team.

[slow99]

lol, good lord.

[davbrucas]

Texas just made a FG to go ahead by 2.

[elzoro]

go ucf

[SVT Lurch]

They held UT to a field foal, 29-24 UT. UCF has 5 minutes to score a TD.

[elzoro]

FUCK ucf fumbled

[SVT Lurch]

UCF fumble UT recovers. :rolleyes:

[SVT Lurch]

Touchdown UT. That went well.

[ALLAN]

Looks like the Knights are done. :D

Hook'em horns

[ALLAN]

guess not
:eek:

[SVT Lurch]

Touchdown UCF!!!

[SVT Lurch]

2 pts!
35-32.

[ALLAN]

Longhorn ball

[SVT Lurch]

Too bad... :(

[ALLAN]

too good

[Big Studly]

too good

if beating UCF by 3 is good, they have problems

[ALLAN]

They played like shit and still won the game.

[Vertnut]

UT was up by 11 with a minute left...typical win for the Horns.

[WhoaTX5.0]

damn....Texas did NOT look good today....
Pretty shitty looking on defense.....
I hope they get it together before oct. 6th

[ZYouL8R]

Don't get me wrong, I think UT is very mediocre this year, but UCF isn't "scrub team". They beat NC State on the road to open the season, and they have a great coach. Going into this game, no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF. Everyone knew it was going to be a fight. All because they're not in a BCS conference, doesn't mean they're scrubs.

[RJDCobra]

Don't get me wrong, I think UT is very mediocre this year, but UCF isn't "scrub team". They beat NC State on the road to open the season, and they have a great coach. Going into this game, no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF. Everyone knew it was going to be a fight. All because they're not in a BCS conference, doesn't mean they're scrubs.
X2

[bud]

I agree that UCF is not the typical scrub (if at all), but weren't the longhorns a 17 pt favorite?

[Vertnut]

I agree that UCF is not the typical scrub (if at all), but weren't the longhorns a 17 pt favorite?
Yeah. Not a bad team, and their home-opener at their brand new stadium. This was a set-up for an upset. Rowdy crowd, along with a 16 minute weather delay didn't help, either. I'll take the win...

[bud]

Yeah. Not a bad team, and their home-opener at their brand new stadium. This was a set-up for an upset. Rowdy crowd, along with a 16 minute weather delay didn't help, either. I'll take the win...

I surely wasn't putting down the win. IMO, UT is just trying to get everything clicking before the RRS... :)

[TRAXX]

Wow. That was ugly. But it was a win :cool:

[Vertnut]

I surely wasn't putting down the win. IMO, UT is just trying to get everything clicking before the RRS... :)
I'm not making excuses, because the "sounded" like shit (just had radio here). After Rice, both Texas and A&M will run out of these tomato cans they're playing, and start facing REAL teams...it may not be pretty for either.

[01WhiteCobra]

Don't get me wrong, I think UT is very mediocre this year, but UCF isn't "scrub team". They beat NC State on the road to open the season, and they have a great coach. Going into this game, no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF. Everyone knew it was going to be a fight. All because they're not in a BCS conference, doesn't mean they're scrubs.

They also lost to Rice and Houston last year.

Come on, UCF's major rival is Marshall, not USC.

You are right no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF but it has nothing to do with how UCF is playing and everything to do with how UT is playing at the moment.

[Vertnut]

They also lost to Rice and Houston last year.

Come on, UCF's major rival is Marshall, not USC.

You are right no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF but it has nothing to do with how UCF is playing and everything to do with how UT is playing at the moment.
3 Turn-overs and a bad defense did not helping Texas at all.

[Geor!]

Don't get me wrong, I think UT is very mediocre this year, but UCF isn't "scrub team". They beat NC State on the road to open the season, and they have a great coach. Going into this game, no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF. Everyone knew it was going to be a fight. All because they're not in a BCS conference, doesn't mean they're scrubs.
Texas isn't deserving of a number 5 or 6 ranking, that's for sure. That's two games against less than average teams that they have had problems with this year. I feel sorry for them when they start their Big XXII games...

[ZYouL8R]

They also lost to Rice and Houston last year.

Come on, UCF's major rival is Marshall, not USC.

You are right no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF but it has nothing to do with how UCF is playing and everything to do with how UT is playing at the moment.

Well UT beat USC 2 years ago, so I guess that's relevant too. :rolleyes:

I guess we'll see how bad UCF really is throughout this year.

[Juiceweezl]

They also lost to Rice and Houston last year.

Come on, UCF's major rival is Marshall, not USC.

You are right no one thought UT was going to blow out UCF but it has nothing to do with how UCF is playing and everything to do with how UT is playing at the moment.
If you use "last year" logic, then it would totally change rankings for all teams.I seem to remember a certain OU team that everyone is hyped up about losing to Oregon, a "sub par UT," and Boise State (that's a real powerhouse there). UT is struggling to find their identity. It seems they can't decide if they want to be a spread offense with lots of short, quick passes, a run between the tackles team, or some hybrid. They're defense played well until it got worn down from being on the field so much for a stretch in the 2nd half. I think if UT decides to improve their play calling, take a few shots down the field, and (cough) hold on to the ball, they'll be just fine.

[Juiceweezl]

Texas isn't deserving of a number 5 or 6 ranking, that's for sure. That's two games against less than average teams that they have had problems with this year. I feel sorry for them when they start their Big XXII games...
Here's the flaw in your logic. If Texas isn't deserving of that ranking, name someone else to put there? You can argue that USC & LSU deserve to be there, but it isn't like OU is beating quality teams. I'll give you them, because I think they are where they should be. Who's next? WVU and the middle school conference they play in? Florida deserves to be #3 if you ask me, but they're at #5. Wisconsin is #7 and they struggled yesterday. Cal is #8, you can't convince me that they are so much better than UT as they've not been dominant. Louisville lost at #9, tOSU is next at #10, and the UCLA got blown out at #11. UT may not be a top 3-5 team in the country for now, but they're at the correct ranking until they lose to someone that proves they shouldn't be there. They'll be just fine in Big 12 play once it gets here. Heck, did you think Nebraska was deserving of being ranked 14? Now, just supposed that UT beats OU in the RRS, what will everyone say then? That OU was over ranked and it's not a big win for UT? If OU wins, will everyone say what you're saying now about UT and downplay the OU win, or will it be a quality win?

Also, I'll bet you that UCF makes a bowl game this year too. They aren't that bad, and that new stadium they have looked like a killer place to play in. Carry on, haters.

[01WhiteCobra]

If you use "last year" logic, then it would totally change rankings for all teams.I seem to remember a certain OU team that everyone is hyped up about losing to Oregon, a "sub par UT," and Boise State (that's a real powerhouse there). UT is struggling to find their identity. It seems they can't decide if they want to be a spread offense with lots of short, quick passes, a run between the tackles team, or some hybrid. They're defense played well until it got worn down from being on the field so much for a stretch in the 2nd half. I think if UT decides to improve their play calling, take a few shots down the field, and (cough) hold on to the ball, they'll be just fine.

Take the last 30 years that UCF has been playing football. Dude they play Rice and Houston and they are good games. UCF is a second tier school.

Using your "logic" UCF is going to have a break out year this year after 30 years of second tier performances.

Face it, Texas has truly sucked so far this year as a Top 10. They've been playing like a top 25 maybe but certainly not a top 10.

No, UCF didn't get better all of a sudden. The game was close because Texas isn't play like a top 10 not because UCF is now playing like a top 10.

[01WhiteCobra]

Well UT beat USC 2 years ago, so I guess that's relevant too. :rolleyes:

I guess we'll see how bad UCF really is throughout this year.

When was the last time UCF was a top 25 team? EVER.

Another costly interception by Colt. Charles with two fumbles. Three late personal fouls for late hits out of bounds. First 100 yard rushing game against them since Peterson. Sweed out with an ankle injury. A defense that was giving up big plays to a second tier school.

UT has lots of problems to correct before they start playing caliber teams. My guess is UT eventually falls out of the top 10 by the end of the year with no BCS.

[Pro Trash]

I'm not making excuses, because the "sounded" like shit (just had radio here). After Rice, both Texas and A&M will run out of these tomato cans they're playing, and start facing REAL teams...it may not be pretty for either.

I agree I don't think A&M or UT are top 10 material this season. They are top 25 material for they have the talent but lack something this season. This may be OU's year because whenever a big 12 team goes undefeated they are almost certain to be in the Championship game.

[Big Studly]

I love the way you UT homers are acting like this is the first bad game for UT this season. Look at the AP top 6, every other team has pretty much blown away their first 3 cake walks, yet UT seems to struggle against Arkansas St. and UCF and only put together a good half against TCU, who we are finding out isn't that good. UT might pull it together because they do have talent, but face it, they are not playing well at all, and if they keep playing this way, you guys better save your excuses for the games where they get owned by other Big 12 schools because it will happen.

[Badass2000gt]

I love the way you UT homers are acting like this is the first bad game for UT this season. Look at the AP top 6, every other team has pretty much blown away their first 3 cake walks, yet UT seems to struggle against Arkansas St. and UCF and only put together a good half against TCU, who we are finding out isn't that good. UT might pull it together because they do have talent, but face it, they are not playing well at all, and if they keep playing this way, you guys better save your excuses for the games where they get owned by other Big 12 schools because it will happen.
bitch

[Vertnut]

I love the way you UT homers are acting like this is the first bad game for UT this season. Look at the AP top 6, every other team has pretty much blown away their first 3 cake walks, yet UT seems to struggle against Arkansas St. and UCF and only put together a good half against TCU, who we are finding out isn't that good. UT might pull it together because they do have talent, but face it, they are not playing well at all, and if they keep playing this way, you guys better save your excuses for the games where they get owned by other Big 12 schools because it will happen.
I'm not sure who you're talking to... :confused:

[Big Studly]

I'm not sure who you're talking to... :confused:

of course not :rolleyes:

[Vertnut]

As a Horns fan, I've been pretty fuckin' realistic...who's your team, bud?

[bcoop]

Am I the only one that thought UCF played shitty and STILL gave UT a run for their money?


UCF's QB is fucking terrible, or at least looked the part yesterday.... :rolleyes:

[01WhiteCobra]

Am I the only one that thought UCF played shitty and STILL gave UT a run for their money?


UCF's QB is fucking terrible, or at least looked the part yesterday.... :rolleyes:

UCF is a second tier team and played like one. The quarterback went 9-26 for 34%. Hell, he is only 42% for the year. Kevin Smith runs all over the UT defense for almost 150 yards and 2 TDs. Anyone ever hear of Kevin Smith before watching that game?

The homers must make UCF not seem that bad. It is the only way to justify UT playing like a tier 2 squad.

[Vertnut]

UCF is a second tier team and played like one. The quarterback went 9-26 for 34%. Hell, he is only 42% for the year. Kevin Smith runs all over the UT defense for almost 150 yards and 2 TDs. Anyone ever hear of Kevin Smith before watching that game?

The homers must make UCF not seem that bad. It is the only way to justify UT playing like a tier 2 squad.
Not necessarily, but to hear all the BS on here, you'd think they lost...They're still 3-0.

[Big Studly]

As a Horns fan, I've been pretty fuckin' realistic...who's your team, bud?

as a horns fan you have done nothing but make excuses, like 01WhiteCobra said, for UT playing like a 2nd tier school. Being realistic or not, you have been trying to justify the game being close. No justification is needed, Texas played like crap, and they have the entire season. Nobody has stopped to think that maybe Texas over achieved last year on the hype of an over achieving quarterback. Maybe this is the real Texas. I guess we will find out in the weeks to come. I do think it is funny you ask my affiliation so you can try and bag on something, but the fact is, my "team" is completely irrelevant to the topic. So much so, that I have not been making excuses for them and I probably never will, or will ever have to.

[Vertnut]

as a horns fan you have done nothing but make excuses, like 01WhiteCobra said, for UT playing like a 2nd tier school. Being realistic or not, you have been trying to justify the game being close. No justification is needed, Texas played like crap, and they have the entire season. Nobody has stopped to think that maybe Texas over achieved last year on the hype of an over achieving quarterback. Maybe this is the real Texas. I guess we will find out in the weeks to come. I do think it is funny you ask my affiliation so you can try and bag on something, but the fact is, my "team" is completely irrelevant to the topic. So much so, that I have not been making excuses for them and I probably never will, or will ever have to.
So your team is irrelevant? Figures...I'm a horns fan, and offer no apologies. Yep, they look shitty, and yep, are NOT playing like a team ranked in the top 10. But, your team must really stink if you're better off being a coward.

[Big Studly]

So your team is irrelevant? Figures...I'm a horns fan, and offer no apologies. Yep, they look shitty, and yep, are NOT playing like a team ranked in the top 10. But, your team must really stink if you're better off being a coward.

haha.........lame

[TATOM MACK]

OU is going to kill them 52 -17 :(

[slow99]

I think Big Studly's an OU fan. :confused: I'm a fan of UT football, but you have to be realistic. At this point it looks like that Red River Shootout might be ugly.

[Big Studly]

I think Big Studly's an OU fan. :confused: I'm a fan of UT football, but you have to be realistic. At this point it looks like that Red River Shootout might be ugly.

I have been known to be one since I was in the 1st grade.....I also like to root for Tech since I have some ties to that school.........still, the teams I root for have nothing to do with Texas playing like shit.....at least not yet.

[slow99]

I have been known to be one since I was in the 1st grade.....I also like to root for Tech since I have some ties to that school.........still, the teams I root for have nothing to do with Texas playing like shit.....at least not yet.

I like rooting for Tech, too. Two of my best friends graduated from there and got me interested in watching their games. I just always kinda like rooting for them, can't really put my finger on it.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

Kevin Smith will go to the Pros.......they have been saying that for the last year. He is no Second Tier Player. With that being said.....UT sucks this year so far.......and I am a big fan. They have some maturing to do for sure. Hopefully they pull it together or Mack Brown takes a bullet.

[Big Studly]

I like rooting for Tech, too. Two of my best friends graduated from there and got me interested in watching their games. I just always kinda like rooting for them, can't really put my finger on it.

Maybe because Mike Leach is like a crazy mad scientist. Their offense is just fun to watch because you never know what is going to happen. One thing I like to watch this year is that Crabtree kid. Un-fucking-believable what he is doing this year so far...almost 180 yrds per game as a Freshman.

[slow99]

That Tech fuckin' bowl game last year was the most entertaining game I've seen. It got no media attention after the Boise St thing, but damn!

[Vertnut]

That Tech fuckin' bowl game last year was the most entertaining game I've seen. It got no media attention after the Boise St thing, but damn!
One thing about Tech...they will hang some points on folks, bigtime! The Herrell kid can sling the ball with anybody out there. I went to a few of his high school games (Ennis is right down the road)), and he was pretty much the offense for a great team then.

[Vertnut]

Kevin Smith will go to the Pros.......they have been saying that for the last year. He is no Second Tier Player. With that being said.....UT sucks this year so far.......and I am a big fan. They have some maturing to do for sure. Hopefully they pull it together or Mack Brown takes a bullet.

Mack's calling plays like he still has VY at QB, and the same defensive squad he's had in years past. It's going to get ugly pretty quick when he hits the Big 12 schedule. NO game will be a "gimmee".

If someone told me Tech, OU, and A&M would beat them, it wouldn't surprise me.

[01WhiteCobra]

Not necessarily, but to hear all the BS on here, you'd think they lost...They're still 3-0.

Come on, dude. This game was pulled out of their ass. To even fathom it would be that close that late in the game has to cause serious concern to UT. UCF has close games with teams like Miami, OH not UT.

Rice is up next on the agenda. If UT wins by three points are you still going to say, well they are 4-0!?

[ZYouL8R]

Come on, dude. This game was pulled out of their ass. To even fathom it would be that close that late in the game has to cause serious concern to UT. UCF has close games with teams like Miami, OH not UT.

Rice is up next on the agenda. If UT wins by three points are you still going to say, well they are 4-0!?

Honestly, who cares how good we think UT is. I can say the Mavs sucked since they beat the Knicks by one, but the bottom line is it comes down to wins. If they drop a few positions in the poll because they didn't win by as much as people thought they would, fine. As long as they keep winning, then they'll be in the mix when the season ends. If UT won every game this year by 1 point, I'd be thrilled.

Sometimes people get so caught up in who they're playing to realize that none of these close games have been losses. Everyone was predicting a loss to TCU, then after they won, people just called TCU weak. Would it have been better if UT would have lost to TCU, like OU did in '05?

It seems most people who bash UT are either Aggies or just hate UT for whatever reason. Give it up. If we UT fans want to live in this bubble where we think UT is good even though they didn't beat UCF by 63, then why do you care?

[Nate]

It seems most people who bash UT are either Aggies or just hate UT for whatever reason. Give it up. If we UT fans want to live in this bubble where we think UT is good even though they didn't beat UCF by 63, then why do you care?
Because Venom makes us this way...seriously all of my disdain for UT stems solely from him...I actually root for UT against all teams but the obvious, but his blatant and blind faith swallowing of Mack, VY, anything burnt oranges nuts so far down his throat that they have stomache acid on all their sacks, makes it fun to talk down to him and some of the UT fans here. :D

[Big Studly]

Honestly, who cares how good we think UT is. I can say the Mavs sucked since they beat the Knicks by one, but the bottom line is it comes down to wins. If they drop a few positions in the poll because they didn't win by as much as people thought they would, fine. As long as they keep winning, then they'll be in the mix when the season ends. If UT won every game this year by 1 point, I'd be thrilled.

Sometimes people get so caught up in who they're playing to realize that none of these close games have been losses. Everyone was predicting a loss to TCU, then after they won, people just called TCU weak. Would it have been better if UT would have lost to TCU, like OU did in '05?

It seems most people who bash UT are either Aggies or just hate UT for whatever reason. Give it up. If we UT fans want to live in this bubble where we think UT is good even though they didn't beat UCF by 63, then why do you care?

Sometimes UT fans get so caught up in the fact that they are Texas University that they can't realize that eventhough Texas has won the last 3 games they are still playing like shit. Not everyone was predicting a loss to TCU, and after TCU lost to Air Force we all realized that TCU was weak. If they keep playing like they are they will not contend in the Big 12. Their play, or lack thereof, will eventually catch up to them.

Oh yea, and the "whatever" as to why people hate UT is because of their fans. Most are irrational, unrealistic and full of excuses. They also like to get all defensive and aggrivated when someone "talks bad" about UT, which only encourages more UT bashing....kind of like aggrivating your little sister....it is just fun to watch them get all pissed.

[01WhiteCobra]

Honestly, who cares how good we think UT is. I can say the Mavs sucked since they beat the Knicks by one, but the bottom line is it comes down to wins.

Bad comparison.

It would be like saying the Mavs suck because they beat the NCAA basketball champion by one.

UCF isn't supposed to be in the same league as UT. It will be fun to watch the UT fans on this board once UT starts playing real teams.

The bigger problem was control in the game. UT could have lost by 2 points and been in control of the game. Only for a brief period in the 3rd quarter did UT even give the appearance of being in control of the game. To let a team like UCF comeback from a 23-10 deficit late in the game was pretty bad.

The real question is did UCF play above their game or did UT play down to a second tier level. We'll find out pretty quickly at the Cotton Bowl.

[bcoop]

Texas is going to get blown the fuck out come RRS weekend. I can't fucking wait. It's going to be so bad, Venom is going to go in hiding for years. And that will by far, be the best thing to come of this game.




Book em Horns!!!

[Hollywood]

Texas is going to get blown the fuck out come RRS weekend. I can't fucking wait. It's going to be so bad, Venom is going to go in hiding for years. And that will by far, be the best thing to come of this game.




Book em Horns!!!


He's too far detached from reality. I mean really, how many times has he looked bad, been proven wrong, etc only to pretend the opposite?

[unkoricky]

Honestly, who cares how good we think UT is. I can say the Mavs sucked since they beat the Knicks by one, but the bottom line is it comes down to wins. If they drop a few positions in the poll because they didn't win by as much as people thought they would, fine. As long as they keep winning, then they'll be in the mix when the season ends. If UT won every game this year by 1 point, I'd be thrilled.


So now you are comparing the Mavs to UT?
In the NBA, no team ever goes undefeated all season like in College Football..

[ZYouL8R]

I just don't understand all this BS even though they're winning. If they lost to one of these teams, ok. But they haven't. Winning by a small margin against anyone is still a win. If they suck, then it will show against the better teams, but in the mean time, they're still winning. For all of you saying they are going to get beat up in Big 12 play, please tell me which Big 12 team besides OU has shown they are better than UT? Nebraska, KState, Ok St, Tech, A&M?

Bottom line, I've said it before: Texas is very mediocre this year, but they're still winning, and that's what matters at the end of the season. Margin of victory or quality wins don't count for shit.

[unkoricky]

yes they are winning and thats what matters most.. its just the way they are winning is ridiculous.. they should be beeatings teams like Ark State & whatever FL team they played the other day by blowouts.. at least 21+

[bcoop]

I just don't understand all this BS even though they're winning. If they lost to one of these teams, ok. But they haven't. Winning by a small margin against anyone is still a win. If they suck, then it will show against the better teams, but in the mean time, they're still winning. For all of you saying they are going to get beat up in Big 12 play, please tell me which Big 12 team besides OU has shown they are better than UT? Nebraska, KState, Ok St, Tech, A&M?

Bottom line, I've said it before: Texas is very mediocre this year, but they're still winning, and that's what matters at the end of the season. Margin of victory or quality wins don't count for shit.




Dude, yeah. They're winning. Cowboys are winning too. Doesn't mean the D doesn't look like pure shit.


You know damn well if someone had shoved a piece of charcoal up Mack Brown's ass in the fourth quarter of that game, it would have come out a diamond. He knows they look pathetic. As do75% of the RATIONAL UT fans. I know, I know. That's something that there just isn't a whole lot of, rational UT fans. Most are blinded when it comes to anything UT related.

When they are playing these podunk ass schools, that aren't ranked; they should be putting up wins OU style. It just ain't happening.


They are going to get murdered when it comes to conference play. If they continue to play like they have shown so far, I'd say every last one of the teams you mentioned will beat them, period. ;)

[ZYouL8R]

Dude, yeah. They're winning. Cowboys are winning too. Doesn't mean the D doesn't look like pure shit.


You know damn well if someone had shoved a piece of charcoal up Mack Brown's ass in the fourth quarter of that game, it would have come out a diamond. He knows they look pathetic. As do75% of the RATIONAL UT fans. I know, I know. That's something that there just isn't a whole lot of, rational UT fans. Most are blinded when it comes to anything UT related.

When they are playing these podunk ass schools, that aren't ranked; they should be putting up wins OU style. It just ain't happening.


They are going to get murdered when it comes to conference play. If they continue to play like they have shown so far, I'd say every last one of the teams you mentioned will beat them, period. ;)

If you think this is the case, put your money where your mouth is.

I know UT looks like shit, they have their issues just as 99% of teams do right now. But until they actually lose a game, who cares? I could give a shit if they go undefeated but play like hell the entire season. Wins are what counts. If they suck, then they will lose just like everyone predicts.

[bcoop]

If you think this is the case, put your money where your mouth is.

I've already made my bets. I'm not going to bet on something like that, when I've got big money riding on RRS.



I know UT looks like shit, they have their issues just as 99% of teams do right now. But until they actually lose a game, who cares? I could give a shit if they go undefeated but play like hell the entire season. Wins are what counts. If they suck, then they will lose just like everyone predicts.



You're more rational than most, then. You know damn well if Venom wasn't banned he'd be one here telling everyone they are stupid, UT looks like a #1 team, and OU, USC, and LSU could never and will never beat God himself (Mack Brown).

[01WhiteCobra]

I just don't understand all this BS even though they're winning. If they lost to one of these teams, ok. But they haven't. Winning by a small margin against anyone is still a win. If they suck, then it will show against the better teams, but in the mean time, they're still winning. For all of you saying they are going to get beat up in Big 12 play, please tell me which Big 12 team besides OU has shown they are better than UT? Nebraska, KState, Ok St, Tech, A&M?

Bottom line, I've said it before: Texas is very mediocre this year, but they're still winning, and that's what matters at the end of the season. Margin of victory or quality wins don't count for shit.


If UT continues to play like they are:

1. OU kills them
2. Nebraska wins
3. KState wins
4. Tech wins
5. AM wins
6. OSU/UT will be a tight game.

UT was going downhill last year and it appears the trend is continuing.

[SVT Lurch]

4. Tech wins

Hooray.

[01WhiteCobra]

Hooray.

I like Tech. I love college football but I don't have a "team." I guess ND is my "team" as that is all my dad would watch growing up so if you wanted to watch ball it was ND on Saturdays and Oilers or Giants on Sunday.

It seems most of the people I know that I consider "fun" and "good friends" are Tech grads. I guess I would have loved it there. :D

[SVT Lurch]

It seems most of the people I know that I consider "fun" and "good friends" are Tech grads. I guess I would have loved it there. :DIt's a lot of fun if you can put up with assholes. It's bares an odd resemblance to this place. I like the team because they make us believe that they have a chance against anybody. We'll be down by 21 and have two drives to cut it to 7 and get everyone all excited. Then of course inconsistency kicks in and we lose by 35, haha.

[unkoricky]

I've already made my bets. I'm not going to bet on something like that, when I've got big money riding on RRS.






You're more rational than most, then. You know damn well if Venom wasn't banned he'd be one here telling everyone they are stupid, UT looks like a #1 team, and OU, USC, and LSU could never and will never beat God himself (Mack Brown).
Venom got banned? Hoorayyyy..

[bcoop]

Venom got banned? Hoorayyyy..



Don't get too happy. He'll be back some time this week. :rolleyes:


One can only hope he DOES go into hiding after Stoops and OU put an ass whipping on UT.

[ZYouL8R]

If UT continues to play like they are:

1. OU kills them
2. Nebraska wins
3. KState wins
4. Tech wins
5. AM wins
6. OSU/UT will be a tight game.

UT was going downhill last year and it appears the trend is continuing.

Since I know you're a betting man, care to wager on this? You're saying that UT will have atleast 5 conference losses this year. I'll bet you any amount that they'll have no more than 2. If you think they'll lose atleast 5, this is a sure fire win for you!

[Big Studly]

It's a lot of fun if you can put up with assholes. It's bares an odd resemblance to this place. I like the team because they make us believe that they have a chance against anybody. We'll be down by 21 and have two drives to cut it to 7 and get everyone all excited. Then of course inconsistency kicks in and we lose by 35, haha.

yea, but the chicks are hot and Crickets is a fucking blast!

[01WhiteCobra]

Since I know you're a betting man, care to wager on this? You're saying that UT will have atleast 5 conference losses this year. I'll bet you any amount that they'll have no more than 2. If you think they'll lose atleast 5, this is a sure fire win for you!

Read my post, tard.

If UT plays the same way they've played the first three games... they will get the shit kicked out of them in the second half of the schedule.

Do you care to tell me how we will decide if UT is playing the same way or not?

Maybe Mack kicks some ass this week and Colt stops throwing interceptions and the defense actually shows up for a game this year. Not sure.

Rice is getting 38.5 points this week. Rice is 0-3 having lost to such power houses as Nicholls State (14-16) and Baylor (17-42). Rice also got seriously drummed by Tech 24-59 and Tech never lost control.

If UT wins at Rice by 3 points (UCF and Rice are both Conference USA) they are in for a very serious time the second half. Hell if they win by less than two touchdowns they are going to have serious problems the second half.

Check back with me after this week's games and I'll come up with a betting package for you.

Glad you realize UT is gonna have at least 2 conference losses. Admitting homerism is the first step in curing homerism.

[RiceStang]

If UT continues to play like they are:

1. OU kills them
2. Nebraska wins
3. KState wins
4. Tech wins
5. AM wins
6. OSU/UT will be a tight game.

UT was going downhill last year and it appears the trend is continuing.

One game at a time my friend. You can't focus on games way down in the schedule like that. Too many things happen in football games for things to turn around. And Texas has too much talent to get "killed" like you say.

And if they were going downhill last year, how did they still beat OU? Remember? OU did win the Big 12 last year.

If Texas wins the rest of their games by only 1 point, they are still undefeated at the end of the year.

Am I saying they go undefeated? Not yet.

Funny how everyone is putting OU at the top of the Big 12 so early in the season. They haven't played a decent team yet. Both A&M and Texas have played some decent teams and won all of them.

[01WhiteCobra]

Funny how everyone is putting OU at the top of the Big 12 so early in the season. They haven't played a decent team yet. Both A&M and Texas have played some decent teams and won all of them.

Funny how the homers talk about OU not playing quality teams so far this year... no they play the powder puff games just like UT. The only difference is OU is blowing out their opponents. UT is letting them stay in the game.

What freakin' team has UT played that was decent? Seriously. The only reason they look decent is because they played UT.

Arkansas State? TCU? UCF? Which one is decent? TCU, after their loss to AF was shown to be a poll fraud.

Miami, who lost to OU 51-13, is a much higher caliber team than ANY team Texas played this year.

[unkoricky]

Glad you realize UT is gonna have at least 2 conference losses. Admitting homerism is the first step in curing homerism.
:p tell that to Venom

[ZYouL8R]

Read my post, tard.

If UT plays the same way they've played the first three games... they will get the shit kicked out of them in the second half of the schedule.

Do you care to tell me how we will decide if UT is playing the same way or not?

Maybe Mack kicks some ass this week and Colt stops throwing interceptions and the defense actually shows up for a game this year. Not sure.

Rice is getting 38.5 points this week. Rice is 0-3 having lost to such power houses as Nicholls State (14-16) and Baylor (17-42). Rice also got seriously drummed by Tech 24-59 and Tech never lost control.

If UT wins at Rice by 3 points (UCF and Rice are both Conference USA) they are in for a very serious time the second half. Hell if they win by less than two touchdowns they are going to have serious problems the second half.

Check back with me after this week's games and I'll come up with a betting package for you.

Glad you realize UT is gonna have at least 2 conference losses. Admitting homerism is the first step in curing homerism.

Oh, so they'll only lose 5-6 conference games if they play like they have played so far this season. Well, what else do we have to go by? I don't see them making any miraculous changes, do you? They are what they are. Let's make the bet! I say 2 at most, meaning probably 1 loss and possibly a second. I never said they'll have atleast 2 conference losses.

[01WhiteCobra]

Oh, so they'll only lose 5-6 conference games if they play like they have played so far this season. Well, what else do we have to go by? I don't see them making any miraculous changes, do you? They are what they are. Let's make the bet! I say 2 at most, meaning probably 1 loss and possibly a second. I never said they'll have atleast 2 conference losses.

Lots of things change. For example, they have 4 or 5 players eligible for play after being suspended for the first 3 games. Don't know what impact they'll make in games after Rice but its an unknown.

Colt may start throwing more touchdowns than interceptions like the first three games. The defense might actually show up.

I'll let you know after the games this week, like I said.

And what the fuck does me putting money on the games have to do with how sucky UT has been playing? Sometimes I bet Big 12 sometimes I don't. Depends on the matchups and what the spreads are. Very rarely do I money line any game unless it is some stupid parlay combination that is paying out like 100 to 1 that has a slight chance at hitting.

[bcoop]

One game at a time my friend. You can't focus on games way down in the schedule like that. Too many things happen in football games for things to turn around. And Texas has too much talent to get "killed" like you say.


Really? Talent? Who would that be? Other than Limas Sweed, of course. I really hope you aren't calling McCoy 'talent'. If so, your team with so much 'talent' is in for a rough couple of years.


And if they were going downhill last year, how did they still beat OU? Remember? OU did win the Big 12 last year.


If I recally correctly, OU's biggest player was out for the game, or only played a very small part of it. I'll have to dbl check that though.

If Texas wins the rest of their games by only 1 point, they are still undefeated at the end of the year.

But they're only beating powder puff teams by one fucking point; whereas OU is blowing powder puff teams out. Have you seen the points scored vs points allowed on OU vs their opponents this year? Pretty fucking comical, if you ask me. For a team with so much 'talent', that's pretty fucking pathetic.


Am I saying they go undefeated? Not yet.
God I hope not. That would be fucking ignorant, considering the raping OU will be giving them in 3 weeks. What do you mean yet? Ya'll have a few games that I predict losses in. Calling it otherwise is just plain ignorant.


Funny how everyone is putting OU at the top of the Big 12 so early in the season.

Funny how everyone doing so are professionals and people that eat, sleep, and breathe NCAA football. What position at the AP/ESPN do you hold again?


They haven't played a decent team yet.

Well golly gee willikers. I'm glad you pointed that out for me. Putting up 4x+ point blowouts the last three weeks didn't quite get that message across. :rolleyes:

Both A&M and Texas have played some decent teams and won all of them.


Really? Who has UT played that's a decent team? Was it Arkansas State? Or was it TCU? Oh wait, surely it had to be University of Central Florida. Yeah, that's it. Those guys are fucking tough. :rolleyes: You dumbshit. They haven't played a fucking ranked team either.

[Big Studly]

They haven't played a fucking ranked team either.


why did you bring that point up? I intentionally didn't bring that up because now you are going to get the idiot brigade bringing up the fact that TCU was ranked (which we all know was a farse, but do you think it will stop them?), so now you are going to have to go round and round with them explaining that they got beat by Air Force and really do suck.

[SVT Lurch]

yea, but the chicks are hot and Crickets is a fucking blast!
Also true.

[bcoop]

why did you bring that point up? I intentionally didn't bring that up because now you are going to get the idiot brigade bringing up the fact that TCU was ranked (which we all know was a farse, but do you think it will stop them?), so now you are going to have to go round and round with them explaining that they got beat by Air Force and really do suck.



I guess I forgot that TCU was ranked when they played them. :o

[Slowhand]

at this rate, it looks like baylor might get one whole conference win this year...against UT!

[Vertnut]

Come on, dude. This game was pulled out of their ass. To even fathom it would be that close that late in the game has to cause serious concern to UT. UCF has close games with teams like Miami, OH not UT.

Rice is up next on the agenda. If UT wins by three points are you still going to say, well they are 4-0!?
Yep...4-0.

[Vertnut]

Funny how the homers talk about OU not playing quality teams so far this year... no they play the powder puff games just like UT. The only difference is OU is blowing out their opponents. UT is letting them stay in the game.

What freakin' team has UT played that was decent? Seriously. The only reason they look decent is because they played UT.

Arkansas State? TCU? UCF? Which one is decent? TCU, after their loss to AF was shown to be a poll fraud.

Miami, who lost to OU 51-13, is a much higher caliber team than ANY team Texas played this year.


You're losing credibility...Miami is fucking AWFUL!

[bcoop]

You're losing credibility...Miami is fucking AWFUL!



He didn't say Miami was good. :confused:


He said Miami is a better team than anyone UT has played thus far this season.


And he's right. You're on crack if you think otherwise.....

[Vertnut]

He didn't say Miami was good. :confused:


He said Miami is a better team than anyone UT has played thus far this season.


And he's right. You're on crack if you think otherwise.....
TCU is better than Miami.

[bcoop]

TCU is better than Miami.




You sure you don't want to recant that statement after the beating they took from Air Force? You sure?

[Vertnut]

You sure you don't want to recant that statement after the beating they took from Air Force? You sure?
Do you think Michigan is as bad as they're record? Or were they bad for 2 games? I don't think TCU is any good at all, I just think Miami is worse.

[Juiceweezl]

Funny how everyone doing so are professionals and people that eat, sleep, and breathe NCAA football. What position at the AP/ESPN do you hold again?

Umm, not to discredit you here, but have you heard of a team called Michigan? Those same experts had them ranked 5 in the preseason and many said they could win the championship. I give minimal credibility to preseason polls unless it's a team that was good last season and is returning most of its key players. Conference play will shake out who is good and who isn't. Just stay tuned and one way or another, you UT haters will be able to gloat or eat crow.

[bcoop]

Umm, not to discredit you here, but have you heard of a team called Michigan?



Personally, I think Michigan sucks. Point taken though.

[bcoop]

Do you think Michigan is as bad as they're record? Or were they bad for 2 games? I don't think TCU is any good at all, I just think Miami is worse.


No, I think they are as bad as their record. They've only beat Notre Dame. Big fucking accomplishment there.

[Juiceweezl]

Miami, who lost to OU 51-13, is a much higher caliber team than ANY team Texas played this year.
Normally, I respect your opinions as thought out and logical, even if I disagree with them, but not this one. Keep in mind that was a Miami team that went 7-6 overall (thanks to a bowl win over the mighty Nevada Wolfpack 21-20) and 3-5 in that superficial conference, the ACC. Now who played for the ACC championship last year? Wasn't it Georgia Tech and Wake Forest? So a team that finished 3-5 in that conference is leaps and bounds better than UCF or TCU?

I don't think either of them are top teams. I do think they are the appropriate "tests" for schools like OU and UT at this point in the season though. It really lets each team know where it stands and what it needs to work on. The tale will be told based on how they adjust going forward. As you said, let's see what happens.

Now, as for the UCF/Miami argument, I'd wager that in that environement (at UCF on opening day of the new stadium against an in state rival/perennial power team) that UCF would have probably beaten Miami. Remember, Miami lost games last year to GT (30-23), VT (17-10), Maryland (14-13), UVa (17-7), and had close wins against Houston (14-13 at home), Duke (20-15 at Duke), and Nevada in the bowl game. Miami isn't what they once were. Now, carry on until the RRS.

[Vertnut]

No, I think they are as bad as their record. They've only beat Notre Dame. Big fucking accomplishment there.
True. The Big 12 will be in conference play soon, and the "Contender's" will separate themselves from the "Pretender's". As I've stated before, there are 3 teams I feel can be losses for Texas, but I'll still be a fan. :)

[01WhiteCobra]

Normally, I respect your opinions as thought out and logical, even if I disagree with them, but not this one. Keep in mind that was a Miami team that went 7-6 overall (thanks to a bowl win over the mighty Nevada Wolfpack 21-20) and 3-5 in that superficial conference, the ACC. Now who played for the ACC championship last year? Wasn't it Georgia Tech and Wake Forest? So a team that finished 3-5 in that conference is leaps and bounds better than UCF or TCU?

I don't think either of them are top teams. I do think they are the appropriate "tests" for schools like OU and UT at this point in the season though. It really lets each team know where it stands and what it needs to work on. The tale will be told based on how they adjust going forward. As you said, let's see what happens.

Now, as for the UCF/Miami argument, I'd wager that in that environement (at UCF on opening day of the new stadium against an in state rival/perennial power team) that UCF would have probably beaten Miami. Remember, Miami lost games last year to GT (30-23), VT (17-10), Maryland (14-13), UVa (17-7), and had close wins against Houston (14-13 at home), Duke (20-15 at Duke), and Nevada in the bowl game. Miami isn't what they once were. Now, carry on until the RRS.

LOL. Yea, ok. Miami and UCF... the game of the week.

Dude, seriously, UT has about 1,000 problems to resolve before they start playing real competition. Even Mack Brown admits this.

Best situation for UT this year... They work out their kinks on both sides of the ball and quick. They beat OU and keep rolling. More realistic best case situation is they go 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl.

Worst situation for UT this year... Kansas State beats UT and the bleeding doesn't stop there. OU kills them. Teams like A&M, Nebraska, Tech have a shot at winning. Hell, even OSU gets a shot. Texas goes on for a 9-3 or 8-4 record.

The reality is somewhere in the middle. I can see a 10-2 or a 9-3 record, at this point, as the best they are going to do. We'll see how much that changes once they finish up with Rice.

[Vertnut]

LOL. Yea, ok. Miami and UCF... the game of the week.

Dude, seriously, UT has about 1,000 problems to resolve before they start playing real competition. Even Mack Brown admits this.

Best situation for UT this year... They work out their kinks on both sides of the ball and quick. They beat OU and keep rolling. More realistic best case situation is they go 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl.

Worst situation for UT this year... Kansas State beats UT and the bleeding doesn't stop there. OU kills them. Teams like A&M, Nebraska, Tech have a shot at winning. Hell, even OSU gets a shot. Texas goes on for a 9-3 or 8-4 record.

The reality is somewhere in the middle. I can see a 10-2 or a 9-3 record, at this point, as the best they are going to do. We'll see how much that changes once they finish up with Rice.

I would take 10-2 right now...

[Juiceweezl]

LOL. Yea, ok. Miami and UCF... the game of the week.

Dude, seriously, UT has about 1,000 problems to resolve before they start playing real competition. Even Mack Brown admits this.

Best situation for UT this year... They work out their kinks on both sides of the ball and quick. They beat OU and keep rolling. More realistic best case situation is they go 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl.

Worst situation for UT this year... Kansas State beats UT and the bleeding doesn't stop there. OU kills them. Teams like A&M, Nebraska, Tech have a shot at winning. Hell, even OSU gets a shot. Texas goes on for a 9-3 or 8-4 record.

The reality is somewhere in the middle. I can see a 10-2 or a 9-3 record, at this point, as the best they are going to do. We'll see how much that changes once they finish up with Rice.
Okay, so you forgot to pass the pipe for one post. I'll let you slide. :D Yeah, you're right, UT has lots of problems as I too stated earlier. I agree, I think their best case scenario this year is 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl. That's still a great year. I could easily see if being 10-2 or 9-3 as well or, gasp, worse, much worse, if they don't get better and develop a "go for the throat" instinct. They need to establish their identity and get out of the shadow from past teams. I don't know that the Rice game will tell us much unless UT struggles again. If they blow them out, everyone will say (including me), "That's what they should've been doing all along." They'll then hear the same cries OU is hearing now -- play someone!!! As always, the real breaking point in a UT season will be the shootout.

Oh, and we either need one of those ESPN simulators to predict the UCF vs. Miami game or they setup a 3 week blitz between FSU, Miami, UCF, and USF to see who is the second best school in Florida. It's sad that state has come to that for college football.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

lmao......where are all of the haters at?

[SVTVenom]

It is amazing how much hate/idiocy some people have on here.

Texas had this game in hand and let the score slip away from them with some turnovers. The reason Texas hasn't blown out people on the scoreboard is poor offensive play and playcalling in the red-zone. Having to settle for FG's instead of TD's has allowed the teams they've played to stay in it longer than they should.

Blowing out Rice doesn't have any bearing on how they are going to play against Big XII opponents so that holds no water.

Saying UCF isn't on Miami's level this year just shows how much people don't pay attention to games/rankings. Jeff Sagarin has Miami ranked #56 while UCF is only 8 spots back at #64. The ELO-CHESS rankings, used by the BCS, have Miami at #57 and UCF at #65, again only 8 spots in difference. UCF doesn't have the history Miami does, but in this particular year UCF is comparable to Miami.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt07.htm

Saying that OU is better simply because they are blowing out their competition so far is VERY misleading considering who they've played and their current rankings. Using those very same rankings you can clearly see that North Texas is #168 while Arkansas St. is #73. Big difference despite the fact they both play in the Sun Belt. I've seen both of those teams play each other in-person and Arkansas St. DOMINATED North Texas. I'm not trying to excuse Texas' poor play because they have played poorly, but to say that OU is playing the same level of teams isn't correct. Utah State is #143 and as stated above, UCF is #64. Again, significant jump in talent.

OU plays Tulsa this week and it will be their highest rated team they've played all season at #42. I don't think OU will lose, but it will be interesting to see how they play against a better lesser opponent.