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Sgt Beavis
09-05-2007, 07:03 AM
Ok, heavy emphasis on MIGHT. I think if private health care organizations were allowed to do this, we would see some significant improvement in the US...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23410977-details/'NHS+should+not+treat+those+with+unhealthy+lifesty les'+say+Tories/article.do


Failing to follow a healthy lifestyle could lead to free NHS treatment being denied under the Tory plans.

Patients would be handed "NHS Health Miles Cards" allowing them to earn reward points for losing weight, giving up smoking, receiving immunisations or attending regular health screenings.

Like a supermarket loyalty card, the points could be redeemed as discounts on gym membership and fresh fruit and vegetables, or even give priority for other public services - such as jumping the queue for council housing.

But heavy smokers, the obese and binge drinkers who were a drain on the NHS could be denied some routine treatments such as hip replacements until they cleaned up their act.

Those who abused the system - by calling an ambulance when a trip to the GP would be sufficient, or telephoning out of hours with needless queries - could also be penalised.

The report calls for a greater emphasis on the "citizen's responsibility" to be healthy and says no one should expect taxpayers to fund their unhealthy lifestyles.

Yet while the Health Miles Card would award points for giving up smoking and losing weight, it could penalise those who are already fit and well because they would receive no benefits under the scheme.

Also, the NHS already demands that obese patients lose weight before receiving hip replacements.

And any moves to impose compulsory cards on patients would provoke a backlash from civil liberties groups.

The Dorrell report also calls for a consultation on raising the smoking age to 18 and for shops to be stripped of their licences if they sell tobacco and alcohol to minors.

It proposes a fully-trained nurse to be made available to every school to offer advice on sexual health - but Tory officials stressed they would not be offering children contraceptives.

Ministers should divert more attention and funding to public health epidemics which are costing the NHS billions a year, the report says.

Over the last several decades governments around the world have taken actions that have reduced a citizens level of personal responsibility. It would be nice to see them make a move that forces an increase in personal responsibility like they do in Asian countries like Japan and Korea.

TexasDevilDog
09-05-2007, 09:02 AM
That would last about as long as the first person loosing their benefit and the labor party would start crying about people dieing in the streets.

Stevo
09-05-2007, 10:57 AM
Hurray for communism!

Stevo

Paladin
09-05-2007, 01:00 PM
I heard a quick news tease that Edwards has actually put forth a national health care plan that requires going to a doctor at least once every year. I never heard the full story, but I hope they misunderstood, cause that will never work. LOL

Mattica
09-05-2007, 01:32 PM
I heard a quick news tease that Edwards has actually put forth a national health care plan that requires going to a doctor at least once every year. I never heard the full story, but I hope they misunderstood, cause that will never work. LOL

His plan also called for mental health check ups if I recall correctly...even though far fetched I can see it at some point becoming a re-education system...

your line of thought doesn't = the governments you go see the shrink to get treated for mental health disorders...

GhostTX
09-05-2007, 04:31 PM
Glenn Beck made a point the other day...

All this talk about free health care...why not free food? Isn't that an even more basic human "right"?

:rolleyes:

AL P
09-05-2007, 04:56 PM
Glenn Beck made a point the other day...

All this talk about free health care...why not free food? Isn't that an even more basic human "right"?

:rolleyes:

Soylent green is people!! PEOPLE!!!!

bullfrog
09-05-2007, 05:15 PM
I just had a hip surgery and can tell you that won't work and no I was not overweight. You can't exercise with a bad hip. You wouldn't be able to work. So you go on disability? Then who pays? Sounds like a screw ball idea to me. JPS is fighting expanding even more benefits to illegals, but will probably be forced to do it and guess who pays for that?

Sgt Beavis
09-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Soylent green is people!! PEOPLE!!!!

Leave it to AL to have the perfect line :D