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Paladin
09-04-2007, 09:31 AM
"2 men accused of trying to kidnap woman near TCU
By MELODY McDONALD
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

FORT WORTH -- Two men were arrested early Saturday after police said they tried to kidnap a woman near Texas Christian University, and authorities believe that the men may be responsible for other attempted kidnappings in the TCU area.

Jose Alberto Chavollo, 19, was in the Mansfield Jail on Monday afternoon facing charges of aggravated kidnapping, evading arrest and possession of a controlled substance. His bail was set at $31,000.

Victor Garcia, 23, remained in the Mansfield Jail on Monday on an immigration hold. He was also facing a charge of aggravated kidnapping.

Police were dispatched to the 3100 block of Greene Avenue about 3 a.m. Saturday after receiving a report that a woman had been hit in the head, Lt. Paul Henderson, a police spokesman, said in a news release.

According to the woman and witnesses, she and some friends were walking east in the 2900 block of West Berry Street when they decided to cut through a parking lot near the 3100 block of Greene Avenue. The woman was walking ahead of her friends when she rounded a corner and was out of view, according to the news release.

When the woman's friends turned the corner, they saw her on the ground and a man on top of her, striking her in the head. The friends confronted the man, who fled in a black Chevrolet Tahoe occupied by another man.

The witnesses got the license plate number and gave it to police.

While the woman was being treated at Harris Methodist Fort Worth Hospital for her injuries, which were not life-threatening, a Fort Worth police officer driving north on University Drive at Vickery Boulevard saw a black Tahoe with the same license plate. The officer tried to stop it in the 3400 block of Clover Lane.

As the officer approached the vehicle and ordered the driver and passenger to show their hands, the driver sped off.

After officers pursued, the driver and passenger bailed out and fled in the 4600 block of Driskell Boulevard. Officers arrested the passenger, identified as Chavollo.

Garcia was arrested on a warrant about 8:50 that night in the 6800 block of Chickering Road.

Melody McDonald, 817-390-7386
mjmcdonald@star-telegram.com"

When is this crap going to stop?

GT Dan
09-04-2007, 09:36 AM
I dont think it will ever stop...

gloomleader
09-04-2007, 09:44 AM
So this happened because the were illegal's??? Fill me in because you're not makng sense....

mikeb
09-04-2007, 09:53 AM
So this happened because the were illegal's??? Fill me in because you're not makng sense....

The point is that one side effects of illegal immigration tends to be a higher crime rate, and that these guys may have run across the law before and were not deported. There have been any number of news stories just like this one in the news lately. Here is a local example:

http://www.davickservices.com/aliens_murder_texas_girl.htm

Basically, the border needs to be secured.

kc50lx
09-04-2007, 10:02 AM
I have seen stories on this kinda thing. They take these kidnapped people (or girls usually) into Mexico. They are never seen again, but there are reports that they end up being used as prostitutes or otherwise killed. Basically they are sold as slaves and that's the end of the line. I'm not saying that this is the case since usually this happens closer to the border.

In this case they probably would've took her, had their way with her, and then murdered her in a ditch on the side of the road. I'm glad they didn't succeed and she is going to be ok!! This doesn't really matter if the accused are illegal or not; this happens all the time where legal citizens are the perp's. I agree though that crimes involving illegals tend to be more violent and need to be stopped!!

Bubbaearl
09-04-2007, 10:12 AM
they commit a crime here return them to mexico from 20k feet. ;) problem solved

Mr Majestyk
09-04-2007, 10:14 AM
Too bad someone armed wasn't present.

Muffrazr
09-04-2007, 10:17 AM
they commit a crime here return them to mexico from 20k feet. ;) problem solved


Hey, that's not a bad idea. When I win the lottery I will buy a plane and get paid by the Gov't to "deport them". Everybody wins.

black01gt
09-04-2007, 10:33 AM
While we're playing "most popular party" America is beginning to resemble Laredo. This is an old list and has probably doubled by now. It doesn't mention the three people in MN that were recently robbed and shot in the head from behind execution style by wetbacks.

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html

BP
09-04-2007, 10:41 AM
How is this kidnapping? More like an assault. I like the idea of returning them to Mexico from 20k feet though, no parachute.

BP
09-04-2007, 10:42 AM
Too bad someone armed wasn't present.

Was it within 1,000 feet of a school?

kc50lx
09-04-2007, 11:01 AM
Was it within 1,000 feet of a school?
my understanding from my CHL instructor is that you can carry on the grounds just as long as you dont enter a building. now i would never want to challenge this and take a chance on losing. i agree though to bad someone armed wasn't around.

Denny
09-04-2007, 11:42 AM
my understanding from my CHL instructor is that you can carry on the grounds just as long as you dont enter a building. now i would never want to challenge this and take a chance on losing. i agree though to bad someone armed wasn't around.
Fire that instructor!!!

Mr Majestyk
09-04-2007, 12:04 PM
Was it within 1,000 feet of a school?
my understanding from my CHL instructor is that you can carry on the grounds just as long as you dont enter a building. now i would never want to challenge this and take a chance on losing. i agree though to bad someone armed wasn't around.

Read the Texas Concealed handgun Laws, Section 46.035. A CHL holder is only prohibited from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of a school,

"Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.


Fire that instructor!!!
The instructor is correct....reference State Law above.

Fox466
09-04-2007, 01:01 PM
Fire that Denny!

Denny
09-04-2007, 01:03 PM
Fire that instructor!!!

Paladin
09-04-2007, 01:19 PM
How is this kidnapping? More like an assault. I like the idea of returning them to Mexico from 20k feet though, no parachute.

They tried to get another female into their vehicle at knifepoint earlier that night and they tried to get this victim into their truck before they started beating her. I think they also admitted their intentions in statements to investigators, but that is just rumor. They are also suspects in a similar attack a few weeks ago where they tried to get a lone female into the same vehicle.

dafaic
09-04-2007, 02:44 PM
My dad use to work for a Landscaper in Euless. He said imagration came through and took about 5 of their guys. This was on a friday and it was about 12 years ago. The following Tuesday morning one of the guys cuaght was back to work and picked up his Friday paycheck. He had been deported and got back to Euless in 3 days!!!???

How is that and why can't that be stopped.

One of my closest friends is hispanic and he has family in Mexico and even he thinks something should be done. Last year my son went to a elementary school were there were 50% hispanic. It's the only school in Waxahachie that carries "ESL" (English as a second language) not the gang. Anyway outside of the hispanic tax test results the school has the highest scores in the school district add the hispanics results and it's the second worst.

The teachers are told to only teach the tax test, 3rd, 4th, & 5th grade have no recess and only 2 hours of PE a week because of low tax test school results. How is this fair to the other kids? All the other schools have recess and pe nearly everyday but not here.

My buddy told me too when he was little and went home from school his dad did not permit english to be spoken. He got lucky and had 2 older brothers that were able to help him. His 2 older brothers struggled their entire school career because their illegal dad didn't want English spoken in his home!?

Paladin
09-05-2007, 06:30 AM
.......This doesn't really matter if the accused are illegal or not; this happens all the time where legal citizens are the perp's. I agree though that crimes involving illegals tend to be more violent and need to be stopped!!

I know the victim doesn't really care if the people who tried to attack her are illegal or not, but high profile crimes are getting way out of hand involvong illegals. I bet it comes out that they have both been handled by the police before and it just will prove that they should have never been here to commit the crime in the first place. That makes their illegal status very important IMO. BTW, I say "they" becuase of the new story in the Star-Telegram.

"Men are suspects in 3 kidnap attempts
By DEANNA BOYD
Star-Telegram staff writer


FORT WORTH -- The man repeated his demand over and over: "Come with me now."

But Naomi Ayala, 22, wasn't about to budge.

The former Texas Christian University student had just pulled into the driveway of her Arlington Heights home about 2:30 a.m. Saturday after a night in downtown Fort Worth with her cousin when two men -- one armed with what may have been a straight-edged razor -- tried to kidnap her, police say.

With her boyfriend's help, she got away.

But police don't believe it was the men's last attempt -- or their first -- to kidnap a woman.

Two men jailed after another woman's attempted kidnapping 30 minutes later near the TCU campus are also suspects in Ayala's attack and that of a 22-year-old woman Aug. 19.

"It was crime of opportunities," said major case Sgt. J.D. Moore. "They were out to kidnap a woman, but they didn't plan it out very well."

Jose Alberto Chavollo, 19, and Victor Garcia, 23, remained in Mansfield Jail on Tuesday. Chavollo faces charges of aggravated kidnapping, evading arrest and possession of a controlled substance and was being held with bail set at $31,000. Garcia faces a charge of aggravated kidnapping and was being held with bail set at $100,000.

Police say both men are believed to be illegal immigrants and also face immigration holds.
Here's a recap of the attempted kidnappings:

First attack

The 22-year-old victim told police that she was getting out of her car in the parking lot of an apartment complex in the 3000 block of McPherson Avenue about 3 a.m. Aug 19 when she was approached by three men. The woman told investigators that she bit one man's hand as he tried to cover her mouth and kicked the face of one of the two others as they tried to grab her legs.

The woman told police that the men fled in a black sport utility vehicle, possibly a Chevrolet Tahoe. Moore said police are still trying to determine the identity of the third man.

Second attack

Ayala said she believes that she never noticed the black Tahoe trailing or parking outside her house off Montgomery Street in Arlington Heights as she returned home about 2:30 a.m. Saturday because its lights were off. But she couldn't miss the glint of what appeared to be a knife or straight-edge razor in the stranger's left hand as she opened her driver's side door to hear the man's order her to come with him.

"I knew my boyfriend Chris [Crawford] was inside so I just started screaming 'Chris!'" Ayala said Tuesday. "Every time I yelled Chris' name, he came closer to my neck with the knife."

Crawford, 26, emerged from the house to see the man attacking Ayala while a second man apparently stood guard at the passenger door. The two men fled toward their Tahoe, which was parked in the street.

"Chris went to the passenger door, opened it and grabbed one of them by their lapel and tried to pull him out," Ayala said. "By the time he was doing that, the other guy was stomping on the gas. He couldn't get a good enough grip to get him out of the car before they drove off."

Ayala, who has a knack for remembering numbers, focused on the Tahoe's license plate, which she gave to police.

"Chris is kind of the hero," Ayala said. "He saved the day."

Third attack

About 30 minutes after Ayala's attack, a 21-year-old woman was walking ahead of a group of friends in the TCU area when she was confronted by two men in the parking lot of Little Caesars pizza in the 3100 block of Greene Avenue. The men demanded money.

When the woman told the two men she did not have any money, one of the men grabbed her cellphone and pushed her against a railing, according to Garcia's arrest warrant affidavit.

As the woman kicked and swung her arms, the men grabbed her and dragged her toward their Chevrolet Tahoe.

Fearing for her life, the she fell backward on the pavement, where one of the men then struck her in the head twice with a metal flashlight.

A friend, walking up on the attack, ran to help, and the two suspects fled in the Tahoe. The friend also got the Tahoe's license plate number -- the same as reported by Ayala.

The girl was treated at Harris Methodist Fort Worth Hospital for her injuries.

"They were getting more violent as they progressed," Moore said. "I think they would have eventually done worse."

About 45 minutes later, officer T. Shelton saw the Tahoe headed west on West Vickery Boulevard. Chavollo was arrested after a short vehicle and foot pursuit.

Inside the Tahoe's glove box, police found a flashlight with blood on it, said Lt. Dean Sullivan, a police spokesman.

Police said Garcia escaped but was arrested that night in the 6800 block of Chickering Road.

Deanna Boyd, 817-390-7655
dboyd@star-telegram.com"

mikeb
09-05-2007, 10:24 AM
My dad use to work for a Landscaper in Euless. He said imagration came through and took about 5 of their guys. This was on a friday and it was about 12 years ago. The following Tuesday morning one of the guys cuaght was back to work and picked up his Friday paycheck. He had been deported and got back to Euless in 3 days!!!???

How is that and why can't that be stopped.


This is why the employer is key to stopping the problem. The social security "no match" letters were supposed to nudge employers into shedding illegal employees but since this is the good old USA a f****ng activist california judge put a temporary restraining order on social security preventing them from sending the letters. The case was brought by labor and immigration rights groups :mad:

http://ww4report.com/node/4374

black01gt
09-05-2007, 07:47 PM
This is why the employer is key to stopping the problem. :mad:

http://ww4report.com/node/4374
X10

Mustangman_2000
09-06-2007, 12:33 AM
this is becoming an all too common trend. i wonder if anything will ever be done about it?

probably not.

Denny
09-06-2007, 08:06 AM
Well, starting today, we'll have to deal with their commercial truck drivers too.

whiteboy
09-06-2007, 08:10 AM
mexico is full off scumbags like this.

Since there all coming over here and turning citys into shitholes its only going to get worse.

black01gt
09-06-2007, 09:10 AM
Well, starting today, we'll have to deal with their commercial truck drivers too.
Brakes...we don need no stinking brakes. :eek:

livinglegend_86
09-06-2007, 09:22 AM
One of my closest friends is hispanic and he has family in Mexico and even he thinks something should be done. Last year my son went to a elementary school were there were 50% hispanic. It's the only school in Waxahachie that carries "ESL" (English as a second language) not the gang. Anyway outside of the hispanic tax test results the school has the highest scores in the school district add the hispanics results and it's the second worst.

The teachers are told to only teach the tax test, 3rd, 4th, & 5th grade have no recess and only 2 hours of PE a week because of low tax test school results. How is this fair to the other kids? All the other schools have recess and pe nearly everyday but not here.

they teach elementary kids about taxes in school now?

LeMans-67
09-09-2007, 03:49 PM
So this happened because the were illegal's??? Fill me in because you're not makng sense....


Ditto... criminals exists in all societies. Below is a topic about a shooting by someone sworn to protect his country and no he isn't an illegal immigrant. How's this for violent?

http://anythingcars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41813

Mychael101
09-09-2007, 04:05 PM
mexico is full off scumbags like this.

Since there all coming over here and turning citys into shitholes its only going to get worse.
Garland anyone?

Stevo
09-09-2007, 05:07 PM
Ditto... criminals exists in all societies. Below is a topic about a shooting by someone sworn to protect his country and no he isn't an illegal immigrant. How's this for violent?

http://anythingcars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41813

It is painfully obvious that you are "pro-illegal" from your posts.

The point is that these illegals as mention in this post are not here to better themselves, or to provide for a family as has been parroted by so many bleeding heart liberals, they are here to break the law and cause disruption.

Stevo

paul_376
09-09-2007, 05:32 PM
2 mexicans comit a crime?
how many blacks commit crimes?
how many whites?

LeMans-67
09-09-2007, 09:03 PM
It is painfully obvious that you are "pro-illegal" from your posts.

The point is that these illegals as mention in this post are not here to better themselves, or to provide for a family as has been parroted by so many bleeding heart liberals, they are here to break the law and cause disruption.

Stevo

If I am "pro-Illegal" then you are just plain racist judging from your posts. Nobody is perfect. Opinions are like butt-holes everybody has one.

mopar63
09-09-2007, 09:44 PM
Ditto... criminals exists in all societies.

http://anythingcars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41813

Yes, But this crime would not have happened in FORT WORTH TEXAS- United States of America if this illegal piece of shit was in his own country.

Can you wrap your bleeding heart around that? ;) IF he was not here it would not of happened. :eek: Is it that hard to grasp?

What about the illegal in NJ that molested 2 girls under 10 years old, got busted- got out . He then was busted for DUI- almost killed someone, jumped bail and a few weeks ago killed someone else. If me being pissed about this makes me racist so be it.

line-em-up
09-09-2007, 09:51 PM
If I am "pro-Illegal" then you are just plain racist judging from your posts. Nobody is perfect. Opinions are like butt-holes everybody has one.

Even if he doen't like hipsanics doesn't make him racist, since hispanic is not a race.

Stevo
09-09-2007, 10:43 PM
If I am "pro-Illegal" then you are just plain racist judging from your posts. Nobody is perfect. Opinions are like butt-holes everybody has one.

Thanks for posting, I needed a laugh. I guess it is considered racism to wish your country was not invaded by and supporting a vast swarm of illegals. If so, you are right, I am racist.

Stevo

Paladin
09-10-2007, 06:39 AM
Ditto... criminals exists in all societies. Below is a topic about a shooting by someone sworn to protect his country and no he isn't an illegal immigrant. How's this for violent?

http://anythingcars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41813

What society would allow people to commit crimes when they should not even be part of that society in the first place? The only person who uses this logic is an illegal alien apologist IMO.

There will always be crime, but why should we tolerate illegals in our midst who commit crimes? That logic is crazy.

Mr Majestyk
09-10-2007, 07:24 AM
When one has no logical, valid argument for their viewpoint on ethnic or racial issues, they must often resort to accusations of racism to deflect the obvious weaknesses of their stance. It's harmless (except maybe in the case of Mr. O.J. Simpson), but pathetic nonetheless.

A criminal is a criminal regardless of race or national origin, in spite of what the bleeding-heart crowd thinks.