Thompson to announce...

[Strychnine]

http://fredfile.imwithfred.com/On September 6, 2007, Fred Thompson will be announcing his intention to run for President of the United States

:cool:

[Denny]

Law and Order this bitch up!!!

[GhostTX]

That is cool! I can't wait for the debates!

[Pro88LX]

phew....thank god. i was starting to lose hope.

[Fobra]

Law and Order this bitch up!!!
Careful now, Chuck Norris is suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his right and left legs :D

[Muffrazr]

Alright, I have been curious as to where he stood. I like how he states his principles. I believe I might have found someone I could vote for and not lose sleep. I still need more research time to make a positive decision, but once I see how he carries himself, I'll know.

[99SVTour]

phew....thank god. i was starting to lose hope.


you and me both

I honestly thought he had given up

[Pro88LX]

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[Paladin]

I hope this is true. I am not impressed with any of the candidates so far, so I am pretty close to buying my ticket and hopping on the Fred Thompson train.

[line-em-up]

Fred Thompson for president! I'm willing to campaign for him.

I wonder if I can make bumper stickers up in spanish that read, "Fred Thompson welcomes the immigrants" and convince the spanish community to put it on their cars.

[black01gt]

I wonder if I can make bumper stickers up in spanish that read, "Fred Thompson welcomes the immigrants" and convince the spanish community to put it on their cars.
What!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

No thanks, I'm going this direction:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

[Slowhand]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

No thanks, I'm going this direction:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

What?!

Is this the same left wing black01gt?!

Ron Paul ftmfw!

[Slowhand]

Fred Thompson for president! I'm willing to campaign for him.

I wonder if I can make bumper stickers up in spanish that read, "Fred Thompson welcomes the immigrants" and convince the spanish community to put it on their cars.

Am I missing something or are you just lying to the spanish community?

[black01gt]

What?!

Is this the same left wing black01gt?!

Ron Paul ftmfw!
Well it's the same black01gt anyway.

You like Ron Paul?

[line-em-up]

Am I missing something or are you just lying to the spanish community?

Technically, no. I'm sure he would welcome LEGAL immigrants. If the spanish reading people aren't educated enough to know that he doesn't want illegals, then that would be their dumbass fault for voting for him. :D

[Slowhand]

Well it's the same black01gt anyway.

You like Ron Paul?

Hell yeah!

I'm all about Ron Paul!

Thompson runs a close second for me though. I just like Dr. Paul's no bullshit attitude.

[ayzo]

Hell yeah!

I'm all about Ron Paul!

Thompson runs a close second for me though. I just like Dr. Paul's no bullshit attitude.

+1 for Paul

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[ayzo]

Here are the results from the Ft. Worth straw poll, I don't know how Hunter ended up in 1st...

1. 41.1% Duncan Hunter (534 votes)
2. 20.5% Fred Thompson (266 votes)
3. 16.17% Ron Paul (217 votes)
4. 6.4% Mike Huckabee (83 votes)
5. 6% Rudy Giuliani (78 votes)
6. 4.7% Mitt Romney (61 votes)

[Slowhand]

How the fuck did duncan wind up in first?!

And glad to see the only two candidates worth talking about are running 2 and 3 :cool:

[black01gt]

Hell yeah!

I'm all about Ron Paul!

I just like Dr. Paul's no bullshit attitude.
He has a perfect no bullshit voting record also. He's not your dime a dozen politician. He's a buck stops here responsible leader. He's a very experienced medical docter and government servant that values all human life and prosperity. Especially American life and prosperity!!!
I hope he doesn't meet with the same people that Perot met with for the end of his run. :eek:

[Paladin]

Here are the results from the Ft. Worth straw poll, I don't know how Hunter ended up in 1st...

1. 41.1% Duncan Hunter (534 votes)
2. 20.5% Fred Thompson (266 votes)
3. 16.17% Ron Paul (217 votes)
4. 6.4% Mike Huckabee (83 votes)
5. 6% Rudy Giuliani (78 votes)
6. 4.7% Mitt Romney (61 votes)

I have never even heard of Duncan Hunter. Ron Paul and Huckabee will not even be hanging around by the end of the year I bet. I refuse to waste my vote for someone who has no freaking chance of making it to the nomination.

[Sgt Beavis]

I don't agree with Ron Paul on several issues but there is absolutely NO DOUBT where he stands on issues. However he is simply unelectable in the general election. I have been a supporter of his because no one else in the Republican field looks half way decent. Heck, I would vote for Obama before some of these guys.

However Thompson changes things. He shifts the dynamics of the primaries and has a better record as a conservative. I haven't decided to put my support there, but I'm damn well going to seriously consider it.

[ayzo]

I don't agree with Ron Paul on several issues but there is absolutely NO DOUBT where he stands on issues. However he is simply unelectable in the general election. I have been a supporter of his because no one else in the Republican field looks half way decent. Heck, I would vote for Obama before some of these guys.

However Thompson changes things. He shifts the dynamics of the primaries and has a better record as a conservative. I haven't decided to put my support there, but I'm damn well going to seriously consider it.

Yea it will be interesting to see how Thompson mixes things up, so far the democrats have been able to raise much more cash than the republicans. Even Joe Biden has more cash on hand than McCain and he's up there with Gravel and Kucinich.

[GA Racer]

Anyone but Hillary!!

[Muffrazr]

I don't agree with Ron Paul on several issues but there is absolutely NO DOUBT where he stands on issues. However he is simply unelectable in the general election. I have been a supporter of his because no one else in the Republican field looks half way decent. Heck, I would vote for Obama before some of these guys.

However Thompson changes things. He shifts the dynamics of the primaries and has a better record as a conservative. I haven't decided to put my support there, but I'm damn well going to seriously consider it.



This how I feel as well. I think it would be awesome to have as V.P. and one as Pres. Then maybe if they did as good as we hoped, they could swap spots for another 8.

[ayzo]

I guess it doesn't matter, Brownback has this thing in the bag.

http://i13.tinypic.com/4qybb4k.jpg

[Denny]

I guess it doesn't matter, Brownback has this thing in the bag.


The crack that you smoke... I can smell it from here!

[Sgt Beavis]

Well, I guess this will be the first time in years that I stay up to watch Leno.

[Denny]

Well, I guess this will be the first time in years that I stay up to watch Leno.
Watching party?

[BP]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

No thanks, I'm going this direction:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

One of his sons is my family doctor. They guy sure made some fans tonight during the debate!

[black01gt]

One of his sons is my family doctor. They guy sure made some fans tonight during the debate!
And yet not a word about him in the big time media without the big time corporate sponsership. He must be the guy. He's the only conservative I see running against more of the usual phony "corporate conservatives for hire".

I think there's a big surprise coming. Finally give most Americans a voice and see what happens. ;)

[Denny]

And yet not a word about him in the big time media without the big time corporate sponsership. He must be the guy. He's the only conservative I see running against more of the usual phony "corporate conservatives for hire".

I think there's a big surprise coming. Finally give most Americans a voice and see what happens. ;)
I finally get to vote for someone who I'd actually want in office as opposed to who would be most tolerable.

[black01gt]

I finally get to vote for someone who I'd actually want in office as opposed to who would be most tolerable.
Are you a Ron Paul guy Denny? I hope so. He's about the only thing that stands between us and complete corporate control of our country.

[Denny]

Are you a Ron Paul guy Denny? I hope so. He's about the only thing that stands between us and complete corporate control of our country.
I'm on the fence with Ron Paul pulling one leg and Fred Thompson pulling the other.

[black01gt]

I'm on the fence with Ron Paul pulling one leg and Fred Thompson pulling the other.
Right now I'm all Ron Paul, but it's still early. He's being completely ignored by the media...which is good. He's sending a clear message of NOT FOR SALE. The concerned citizens might actually get to decide this one. He'll be hard to swift boat. All he's done is save lives and vote properly.
Like you, Fred is my second choice for now and I don't see anyone else that interest me. Same ole caca.

Fred does not look healthy. Last night on Jay Leno was much less eventful that I expected. Jay cut him off on his last sentence and he quickly left.

[BP]

And yet not a word about him in the big time media without the big time corporate sponsership.

He was the headliner on Yahoo's front page until Fred announced. Other than that though, yeah no comments. He supported Reagan before anyone thought he had a chance and well all know how that story ended.

I like Fred but until he stands up and debates I can't support him. Paul is a borderline Libertarian, my type of politician.

[Denny]

Right now I'm all Ron Paul, but it's still early. He's being completely ignored by the media...which is good. He's sending a clear message of NOT FOR SALE. The concerned citizens might actually get to decide this one. He'll be hard to swift boat. All he's done is save lives and vote properly.
Like you, Fred is my second choice for now and I don't see anyone else that interest me. Same ole caca.

Fred does not look healthy. Last night on Jay Leno was much less eventful that I expected. Jay cut him off on his last sentence and he quickly left.
Ya, I think Fred should have ran a while back, but the public's cry for decentcy wasn't what it is now (which is what would be needed for both Thompson and Paul to have a chance). I don't think he is totally for the campaign, though. Probably because of health reasons. I would trust him in his selection of running mate, cabinet, advisors, etc.

[black01gt]

Fred's taking a bit of an arrogant and Hollyweird approach and I think it will hurt him. Maybe not.

[black01gt]

This gets my attention. No one else has the courage to speak up for fear of losing a vote by being less than politically correct...
There are lots of threats, but the main threat is what's happening RIGHT NOW inside the continental United States of America. We're being over run and having to accomodate the culprits.


Ron Paul:

The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

*Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
*Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

*No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

*No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

*End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

*Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

Oh..and he would also like to make Bin laden et al pay...and pay dearly! That's why he voted against the Iraq conflict, and has nothing to apoligize for.

[ayzo]

Ron Paul kicked ass last night:

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[mardyn]

I like Ron Paul's message... but is he electable? I don't know... I'm hoping Fred will come out with a similar stance on the border control & immigration issue... that would certainly get my attention.

Good Luck Fred!
mardyn

[Denny]

Y'all just follow my lead and shut the fuck up!

[BP]

I'll take a Thompson/Paul ticket please, either way.

[ayzo]

I like Ron Paul's message... but is he electable? I don't know... I'm hoping Fred will come out with a similar stance on the border control & immigration issue... that would certainly get my attention.

Good Luck Fred!
mardyn

I think Ron Paul is the only one who has a chance of beating Clinton in 08 because once again the Iraq war is going to trump all other issues. In 2004 Bush had a narrow victory against Kerry and in 2006 republicans got wiped out and democrats took over the house and the senate. As long as republicans keep a pro war stance they are going to lose again in 2008 only this time we'll have Clinton in the white house and we'll end up with universal healthcare, higher taxes, more entitlement spending, and amnesty.

[Bobba Fett]

Sig check :D

[Trip McNeely]

For me its between Thompson and Guiliani. I guess whoever wins the primary gets my vote.

[mikeb]

I was listening to the mark levin show on the way home tonight and mark had some sound clips from fred. I really like what this guy has to say on issues. He seems very down to earth with traditional values.

[TexasDevilDog]

Sig check :D

My sig link. :cool:

[Paladin]

I think Ron Paul is the only one who has a chance of beating Clinton in 08 because once again the Iraq war is going to trump all other issues. In 2004 Bush had a narrow victory against Kerry and in 2006 republicans got wiped out and democrats took over the house and the senate. As long as republicans keep a pro war stance they are going to lose again in 2008 only this time we'll have Clinton in the white house and we'll end up with universal healthcare, higher taxes, more entitlement spending, and amnesty.

How crazy is it that some conservatives are wanting a Republican who wants to leave Iraq immediately and the Dems want a candidate who says we need to stay in Iraq until the job is done.

Ron Paul will never see November if he doesn't see our security interests reach beyond our border. If he says pull out of the middle east, how will he defend us if Iran goes nuclear, for instance? The man seems like a nut to me.

[black01gt]

I like Ron Paul's message... but is he electable? I don't know... I'm hoping Fred will come out with a similar stance on the border control & immigration issue... that would certainly get my attention.

Good Luck Fred!
mardyn
Ron Paul is the only candidate that ain't just hustlin votes, and his voting record proves it. He's telling us how to fix our country and having faith that us voters will take care of ourselves.

With Fred being fashionably late, he has already spent too much time with the Bush handlers for me. They're wise to be secretive. Any public perception of a connection to Rove et al, and he's dead meat. When I realized that Fred has been a special interest lobbiest for two decades I pulled back. I've had enough!

If slimey Karl Rove "wins" another election we're doomed. "Spending time with my family..." Yeah right ;)

[BP]

How crazy is it that some conservatives are wanting a Republican who wants to leave Iraq immediately and the Dems want a candidate who says we need to stay in Iraq until the job is done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_the_Use_of_United_St ates_Armed_Forces_Against_Iraq

Based on the original law authorizing the use of force the job is done.

Congress needs another resolution to either authorize additional troops/funds or to pull them back. Obviously they don't want to do either because it'll make Bush's approval ratings go up.

I've got a feeling that before this is all said and done we'll have a formal declaration of war. It's not just Iran that wants us out of the middle east.

[Ronin6135]

Here are the results from the Ft. Worth straw poll, I don't know how Hunter ended up in 1st...

1. 41.1% Duncan Hunter (534 votes)
2. 20.5% Fred Thompson (266 votes)
3. 16.17% Ron Paul (217 votes)
4. 6.4% Mike Huckabee (83 votes)
5. 6% Rudy Giuliani (78 votes)
6. 4.7% Mitt Romney (61 votes)

Hell yeah, Hunter gets my vote over any one running.

[Bobba Fett]

My sig link. :cool:

Nice avatar also!

[ayzo]

How crazy is it that some conservatives are wanting a Republican who wants to leave Iraq immediately and the Dems want a candidate who says we need to stay in Iraq until the job is done.

Ron Paul will never see November if he doesn't see our security interests reach beyond our border. If he says pull out of the middle east, how will he defend us if Iran goes nuclear, for instance? The man seems like a nut to me.

The problem with our foreign policy is that everything we do is an act of aggression and all it does is create more enemies. A good example of this failed foreign policy is in 1951 when we teamed up with Britain to overthrew Mossadegh and put in his place our own dictator, the Shah. Then when Ayatollah lead a revolution and created the islamic republic of Iran the US under the approval of Jimmy Carter let the Shah come here for medical treatment then refused to send him back to Iran for trial. In response to Carter's refusal Iranian students took over the US embassy and held Americans hostage. It wasn't until the Shah died in Egypt that the Americans were freed.

In 1997 the people of Iran elected Khatami who promised to ease social restrictions and improving Iran's relationship with the West. He was elected again in 2001 but then in 2002 when Bush labeled the axis of evil as Iraq, Iran, and N. Korea Khatami started getting pressured by Iranian conservatives. In 2004 Colin Powell calls for international sanctions against Iran, then in 2005 Ahmadinejad is elected which marks the death of Khatami's attempts at building stronger relations with the west for Iran.

A more recent example would be from 1979 when the Soviets attempted to invade Afghanistan. At the time the US was worried that soviet influence would spread to Pakistan, Iran, and the rest of the middle east so they decided to support Bin Laden/Afghan mujaheddin with over $6 billion dollars worth of weapons and training.

In 1980 Iraq and Iran keep disputing over their borders and can't come to an agreement of what land belongs to who and that marks the beginning of the Iran-Iraq war. At the time the US wasn't too happy about the Iranian revolution lead by Ayatollah so we decide we'll help out Iraq by providing Saddam with weapons and the financing he needed to invade Iran. In 1987 the us sponsored a UN resolution for a cease fire, in 1988 Iran accepted and it was all over.

But with all the weapons and money that the United States gave Saddam in the 80's he was now powerful enough to call for an invasion of Kuwait in in 1990. The UN immediately placed sanctions on Iraq but that did little to stop Saddam. In order to protect our oil interests we decided to join forces with Kuwait and help them fight back against Saddam. The US feared that since Saddam was so powerful he may also attack Saudi Arabia so George Bush Sr. came up with "operation desert shield" which would put 500,000 troops in Saudi Arabia. We succeeded in fighting Saddam off but we decided that we probably shouldn't actually invade Iraq, Dick Cheney helped explained why in 1994.

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But Osama Bin Laden was outraged that the US had put 500,000 troops in Saudi Arabia. This is what made Bin Laden turn from our friend in Afghanistan to him declaring Jihad against the United States and vowing to bankrupt our country. With all the cash and weapons given by the US to fight off the soviets he had no trouble recruiting islamic fundamentalists. In 1992 he decides to bomb a hotel in Yemen then in 93 he bombs the world trade center in New York. Then in 1996 he bombed the Khobar towers in Saudi Arabia and followed it up with the 2000 attack on the USS cole. Then came the attack everybody knows on the world trade centers in 2001.

We rightfully went to war in Afghanistan to get rid of the taliban and bring Osama to justice, it was a huge sucess seeing as how we managed to get in there quickly with very few casualties and managed to setup a stable and secure government for the people of Afghanastan. But then instead of focusing on capturing Osama Bin Laden we decided to wage a preemptive war against Iraq. And now we have sunni's (Saudi Arabia) and shiite's (Iran) fighting each other like they have for thousands of years while we are caught in the middle of it and al queda is using our soldiers as target practice. Now those same bullets that were given to Saddam to fight off Iran and that were later used to attack us when we teamed up with Kuwait are now being used to kill our soldiers.

Now if you thought things couldn't get any crazier well your wrong, because now the US has developed a $20 billion dollar arms sale to Saudi Arabia which will probably lead to more weapons and ammunition for the sunni's (Saudi Arabia) in Iraq to use against the shiite's (Iran) in Iraq. Obviously, the Shiite (Iran) lead government of Iraq isn't too happy about that. Neither is Isreal seeing as how Saudi Arabia has backed hamas. Isreal wasn't upset for long thought because then we announced we are increasing our aid to Isreal by 30 billion dollars over the next 10 years.

I'm sure that Hamas won't appreciate that little gift which isn't good for us because according to US intelligence hamas is already here in the US and continues to come in through the Mexican border with the help of Venezuela. But seeing as how we have to borrow $3 billion dollars a day from China just to pay off the interests on our loans from the war in Iraq we just don't have enough in the budget right now to put up that big wall that was planned earlier in the year.

All of this mess could have been avoided if we took the advice of the founding fathers when they told us we should just stay out of the affairs of the other nations. Now with the preemptive wars, dropping off billions of dollars worth of weapons around the middle east, and Tom Tancredo calling for the US to threaten to bomb Mecca theres really no telling how many more new Osama Bin Laden's we have created and why Iran might be a little bit paranoid about the US being right next door to their country. Maybe the people of Iran support and back Ahmadinejad and his plans for a nuclear Iran because they think the US just might invade Iran the same way we invaded Iraq?

[Stevo]

The problem with our foreign policy is that everything we do is an act of aggression and all it does is create more enemies. A good example of this failed foreign policy is in 1951 when we teamed up with Britain to overthrew Mossadegh and put in his place our own dictator, the Shah. Then when Ayatollah lead a revolution and created the islamic republic of Iran the US under the approval of Jimmy Carter let the Shah come here for medical treatment then refused to send him back to Iran for trial. In response to Carter's refusal Iranian students took over the US embassy and held Americans hostage. It wasn't until the Shah died in Egypt that the Americans were freed.


Actually, this is may not be quite right, the hostages were released within minutes of Reagan becoming president. It is widely believed that him becoming president (and fears of what he would do to Iran in retaliation) is why the hostages were actually released, the Shah's death was just a convenient excuse.

Stevo

[TexasDevilDog]

I contributed $250 today. If he comes to DFW and has a dinner, I'll pay to go and I'll shoot some pix for you guys. ;)