revolver vs auto

[HarrisonBT]

Im sure i will show my ignorance soon.
Im 21, and been in the army for 3 years, with a one year iraq tour, where i carried an m249 for the whole deployment, most nights sleeping 6 inches from it. anywho, i got used to always having a weapon. Say i want a pistol for protection. Im gonna go ahead and saw it now, i dont know much at all about pistols. But this is what ive always thought. Revolvers TEND to be more accurate, and supposedly wont jam ever.
An auto is not as accurate, has a higher probability to jam, but it carriers more rounds. So, im thinkin if its gonna be for self defense, i would think in most cases i would use it when someone is less than 5 feet from me, so theres no time for a weapon to jam. I know there will probably tons of guys on here who will stand up for thier auto's and say "well ive put 1000 rounds thro my auto with shitty ammo and never had a jam"
Guys i dont know too much about pistols, i have lots of firearm and law reading before i will carry, i just want to hear some educated opinions.
basically more rounds with the chance to jam, or only 6 shots (in most revolvers) and super reliability.
GO!

[Pro88LX]

i lean towards autos. takes to long to reload a revolver if shit hits the fan IMO. have never heard anything regarding one being more accurate than another.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

i lean towards autos. takes to long to reload a revolver if shit hits the fan IMO.Nah, it just takes practice. ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tFQ1H4Awg

[ELVIS]

good brand, clean autos with good ammo dont jam.

1st lesson, if youre going somewhere you think you might need one you better bring two.

god bless.

[Pro88LX]

Nah, it just takes practice. ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tFQ1H4Awg

god damn!!!! well then i retract my previous statement, and replace it with the fact that my 9mm holds 13+1. and a revolver doesnt :D

That said my first gun was a brand new taurus tracker 357mag, and i loved that gun.

[Pro88LX]

1st lesson, if youre going somewhere you think you might need one you better bring two.

god bless.

always have 4 mags with federal 147 grain Hydra-Shok JHP's with me anytime i carry, so i know what you mean lol

[HarrisonBT]

god damn!!!! well then i retract my previous statement, and replace it with the fact that my 9mm holds 13+1. and a revolver doesnt :D

That said my first gun was a brand new taurus tracker 357mag, and i loved that gun.
Im sure my ignorance will shine thro on this one, but with a 9mm you may been half those to stop someone lol.

Elvis, thats what i have heard. And i do understand the improtance of cleaning a firearm. But with a revolver i have seen some that are 40 years old, and never cleaned. The simplicity is beautiful with them. I like pulling the trigger, andknowing that its gonna fire.
Im diggin colts anaconda, but at the $800-900 price range, :(

[HarrisonBT]

god damn!!!! well then i retract my previous statement, and replace it with the fact that my 9mm holds 13+1. and a revolver doesnt :D

That said my first gun was a brand new taurus tracker 357mag, and i loved that gun.
Im sure my ignorance will shine thro on this one, but with a 9mm you may been half those to stop someone lol.

Elvis, thats what i have heard. And i do understand the improtance of cleaning a firearm. But with a revolver i have seen some that are 40 years old, and never cleaned. The simplicity is beautiful with them. I like pulling the trigger, andknowing that its gonna fire.
Im diggin colts anaconda, but at the $800-900 price range, :(

[Casper]

Im sure i will show my ignorance soon.
Im 21, and been in the army for 3 years, with a one year iraq tour, where i carried an m249 for the whole deployment, most nights sleeping 6 inches from it. anywho, i got used to always having a weapon. Say i want a pistol for protection. Im gonna go ahead and saw it now, i dont know much at all about pistols. But this is what ive always thought. Revolvers TEND to be more accurate, and supposedly wont jam ever.
An auto is not as accurate, has a higher probability to jam, but it carriers more rounds. So, im thinkin if its gonna be for self defense, i would think in most cases i would use it when someone is less than 5 feet from me, so theres no time for a weapon to jam. I know there will probably tons of guys on here who will stand up for thier auto's and say "well ive put 1000 rounds thro my auto with shitty ammo and never had a jam"
Guys i dont know too much about pistols, i have lots of firearm and law reading before i will carry, i just want to hear some educated opinions.
basically more rounds with the chance to jam, or only 6 shots (in most revolvers) and super reliability.
GO!

You'll find many of us have a soft spot for the wheelgun.

As far as what you are wanting, you are probably worrying too much. A good bottom feeder will be a fine platform for that, as will a good rotator.

Here's some pros & cons on wheelguns off the top of my head:

-> There are some crappy examples of both, but in the cheapest category, a wheelgun will generally be more reliable, but may have other problems. Move into the middle market and up and it is about the same, although the most reliable auto is usually much more expensive than than a similar revolver, as reliability for a revolver involves fewer factors. Plus the market sets the price, and autos are more popular.
-> If you reload, then hell yeah a wheelgun is superior. If you compare the time at the range and include scrounging the ground for brass, that higher capacity just means more time searching for those 10mm cases that you want to pick up.
-> If you want the really big bore maneater cartridges, you either move into specialized auto pieces that cost out the wazzoo or you just get a bigger gun, usually at not much more money.
-> flexibility. This is a tough call. A revolver generally headspaces on the rim, so if the bullet size is the same then you can shoot multiple calibers, like 38 & 357, 44spl & 44 mag, 45Colt and 454 casull, etc. On the other hand, autos usually headspace on the case mouth so to change calibers you need a barrel, and sometimes a different magazine. The advantage probably goes to the auto here in the smaller calibers, because they can shoot other rounds with only a barrel, and sometimes a magazine change. The cost to do so is initially more but the flexibility is better. A 10mm can shoot 10mm, 40S&W and 357sig easily on most 10mm platforms. 9mm can usually handle 40S&W, 380ACP, 357sig, 41AE and sometimes 38SA and 9x21 and 9x23. It all depends on the platform but you get the idea; a revolver shoots one bullet diameter, a wheelgun shoots one rimsize. Add to that the ability to swap slides and you can go even further by allowing different rimsizes in the auto. For a price.
-> Hunting size calibers tend to be limited to the wheelgun overall. If you intend to do any long range shooting or actual hunting, forget an auto. As a backup, the field is a little more even, but still favors a revolver. Capacity is not an issue in this case, caliber is.
-> barrel length is usually available more in a wheelgun than an auto, which usually have only 2 or 3 lengths per frame. Wheelguns can go to 12" barrels. The slight disadvantage of a wheelgun is the cylinder gap, which usually limits accuracy and velocity on the shorter barrels like the 2" snubby.
-> ammo cost is a downside on a wheelgun overall; you have the big three in autos, 9mm, 40S&W and 45auto. These are the most popular and usually the cheapest. In a wheelgun it is getting so that even 38spl and 357mag are taking a back seat to those in price (although still close). However, the curve in price drops off fast, as even the uncommon wheel gun calibers are not too expensive, while the uncommon auto calibers can get into the big bucks fast. See the note on reloading.
-> carryability. Hands down the wheelgun is limited more than the auto. At a certain point, weight and volume limit your revolver choices to a smaller pool, while the same thing is what makes autos so popular. There is overlap, but the rule is, if you want to carry it you'll usually prefer an auto platform.

Now, there are some other things you should know about your wheelgun choices. First, there are single action revolvers. They require manual manipulation to eject each spent round and again to reload. They require cocking for every shot. In a hunting arm, this is no problem. In a combat style arm, I would have second thoughts. For what you describe, you want a double action revolver. Even that is not going to allow the kind of follow-up that a good auto provides. There are autos that are double action only, I personally don't see the justification.

My recommendation is to visualize a solid double action steel frame 357 mag, 4" barrel, and use that as a yardstick to measure against the rest. A colt python for instance (although colts now command a premium, that is just for non-price comparisons).

[Casper]

Here's another way to look at it. In common calibers the actual performance of traditional rimmed revolver rounds vs traditional rimless auto rounds can be compared thus:

32ACP ~ 38 short
380auto ~ 32 H&R magnum
9mm ~ 38spl
10mm ~ 357 magnum or light 41 magnum
45auto ~ 45 colt or 44 spl
40S&W ~ light 357 mag.
357 sig ~ light 357mag
45 win mag ~ 44 mag

This is a broad brush, but helps make a more apples to apples comparison.

[HarrisonBT]

Good words casper.
Im not getting a CHL, so i am not gonna take it ina grocery store, it dosnt need to be small enough to fit in my pocket, but i also dont want a 12'' barrelled monster. Just something to keep under the front seat of my truck, so 6'' barrel max.
I dont know the difference in size
i know these are big, .44 357 mag 454 casull, and 45long colt.
now is a 44special just a shorter than a .44? is a .44 magnum just a hotter load?
a 44special will fit in a 44 right? why would someone want a small round?
theres 357, and 357 mag? theres 45, and 45 longcolt, and i dont even know whats goin on with the 454 casull, i think thats just one big bitch. AND MAYBE, i think i head that when it gets to a stupid big caliber, the frame has to be so big that the gun gets too expensive. shit im lost.

[HarrisonBT]

Fuck this is the 3rd time ive wrote this.

Good words casper
Im not looking to get my CHL, so the weapon dosnt have to be tiny enough to carry into the grocery store, but i dont want a 12'' barrelled monster
6'' barrel max, just something to carry under the front seat of my truck.
Now, when it comes to round size i know these are some of the bigun's
.44, 45 longcolt, 357 mag, 454 casull.
A 44 special is just a shorter 44 that will fit into a 44? is there 3 44's? 44spl, 44, and 44 mag? why would someone want to put a 44spl in a 44mag anyways?
a 45 longcolt is different than a 45 that goes in say, a 1911, its longer right?
whats up with the .357 mag?
and the 454 is just a big bitch or what?
I have shot large pistols in my short life, so im not really afraid of something big, but I THINK! that i heard that once they start gettin ridiculously big, they have to make the frame just stupidly large, which really raises the price?
I dont know shit about all these different sizes and measurements, there needs to be a f-in standard measurment, like fucken diameter and lenght of case. shit, im a newb guys.

[HarrisonBT]

shit, i guess it posted the 2nd time. sorry

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Good words casper.
Im not getting a CHL, so i am not gonna take it ina grocery store, it dosnt need to be small enough to fit in my pocket, but i also dont want a 12'' barrelled monster. Just something to keep under the front seat of my truck, so 6'' barrel max.
I dont know the difference in sizeCheck out a Taurus 608 - 8 rounds in .357 Magnum, 4" or 6" barrel, for around $400. Or an automatic in .40 Smith & Wesson or .45 ACP (or even 10mm) from a reputable manufacturer - Colt, Springfield Armory, Glock, Taurus, CZ, and the like.now is a 44special just a shorter than a .44? is a .44 magnum just a hotter load? a 44special will fit in a 44 right? why would someone want a small round?A .44 Magnum is a .44 Special with a slightly longer case, which allows for more powder, which allows for more power. A revolver chambered for .44 Magnum will accept .44 Specials; I haven't ever seen a .44 Special in my life (.44 Magnum has been around for 50+ years).theres 357, and 357 mag? theres 45, and 45 longcolt, and i dont even know whats goin on with the 454 casull, i think thats just one big bitch. AND MAYBE, i think i head that when it gets to a stupid big caliber, the frame has to be so big that the gun gets too expensive. shit im lost.The .357 Magnum is to the .38 Special like the .44 Magnum is to the .44 Special - longer case; a revolver chambered for .357 Magnum will handle both .357 Magnum and .38 Special, but not vice versa (.38 Special revolver only accepts .38 Special).
The two .45s you're thinking of (kinda) are .45 ACP (.45 Automatic) and .45 Long Colt; .45 ACP is used in a semi-automatic, and .45 Long Colt is used in a revolver. And yes, the bigger the cartridge, the bigger the gun, for the most part.

[HarrisonBT]

no shit man, you wernt lying. that Taurus 608 is the shit. honestly man, you probably just sold a gun for taurus. Im gonna go do a little reading and may go check that out. http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8145252

[SBBII]

ÒK, let's look at some stuff:

1) The simple presence of a firearm in your hand stops an assualt on you, loved ones, your property a VAST majority of the time. The perp plans to rob or otherwise molest you and yours; he / they aren't planning to confront a firearm. You being armed instantly changes his/their risk/reward ratio. As many as 9 times out of 10, the confrontation ends with the bad guys beating a hasty retreat. No shots fired, nobody hurt. No media reports, no cops, no grand jury, no defense attorney, no big bucks expended. Just a crime that DIDN'T HAPPEN cause the target was _prepared_ with deadly force. Search right on this web site for a member's recent first-hand report of an attempted car-jack that didn't happen cause he pointed a handgun at two bad actors at they approached his car at a stop light. No shots fired, no drama (after the adrenaline dump), no aftermath to contend with, compared to what woulda been if he had to shoot one of 'em, or they had jacked the car.

2) Most attempts on your person or property that do result in shots fired are only a few rounds, last only a few seconds. You USUALLY don't need 13-15 rounds, much less multiple magazines. Although multi-round shootouts happen to civilians, the overwhelming majority of the time, civilian armed conflict involves a small total # of shots fired.

I'm talkin' in generalities without citing sources. For supporting evidence, http://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?s=
is one of the best firearms sites on the web. Go there, read. Google Dr. John Lott, and Gary Kleck for specific data and examples supporting 1) and 2).

I love .45's. I own several, I reload so I can shoot (close to) as much as I want. But my day-in, day-out carry weapon is a S&W Airweight with Lasergrips. Only five 129 grain rounds. Sometimes in the Winter, I carry a .45 instead, cause under heavier clothing I can conceal it, and yes, I like having more gun: Heavier bullet, more rounds. But I'd rather have the S&W than a rock, baseball bat, etc. etc. First rule: Have a gun!

I trust my .45's. Only one of 'em is a 'target pistol,' tight slide, target sights, big grips, etc.; any of the others I would willingly carry if I could conceal 'em as well as the .38. But I can't.

Remeber, "A handgun is what you use to fight your way back to your rifle," (the late Col. Jeff Cooper). We can argue the relative merits of one handgun over another endlessly, but no 'normal' handgun caliber holds a candle to the energy (muzzle and downrange) of most long guns.

My advice is, A) pick what you can conceal, then carry ALL THE TIME. Not just on trips, not just sometimes. B) Practice like hell - http://www.tdsa.net/ is one of several good local places offering training and practice in defensive use of firearms, which is way different than target shooting. As a vet, you understand better than most that in a crisis you don't rise to your abilities, you sink to the level of your training (and practice).

Just saw that you don't plan to obtain a CHL, and do plan to carry (leave?) a firearm under the front seat of your vehicle. Don't do it, man. Pay the money, take the class & get your CHL. Then keep it on your person, fer Chrissake. You gonna take it in the house every night, bring it to the vehicle every morning? How long til that gets old? What if your vehicle gets taken from a parking lot while you're in a store? A proven bad guy now has a weapon, as well as your wheels.

Please consider this: An adult takes responsibility for his / her own well-being (and sometimes that of others). If you 'go about armed' you're saying TO YOURSELF, "I'm in charge of my own safety and well-being."

Because concealed carry wasn't legal at the time, Dr. Susanna Gratia-Hupp removed her handgun from her purse and left it in her car when she met her parents for lunch at the Luby's Restaurant in Kileen in 1991. She saw her parents (and many others) killed in front of her, realizing that if she'd been armed she would very likely have been able to stop the massacre.

Afterwards she ran for and was elected to the Texas Legislature, where she was instrumental in writing and passing the Texas CHL legislation. But at what a cost!

If you're gonna leave the house with a firearm for self-defense, carry it on your person, please. Don't leave it in the vehicle.

Mindset:
An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

Colt Peacemaker: The original point and click interface.

"Gun control" is not about guns; it's about control.

Gun control means rounds on target.

If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved.

What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

The Second Amendment is in case the others are ignored.

64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday.

Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Politicians.

Know guns, Know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety.

You don't shoot to kill; You shoot to stay alive.

911 - government sponsored Dial a Prayer.

Assault is a behavior, not a device.

Criminals love gun control - it makes their jobs safer.

If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

Only a government that is afraid of it's citizens tries to control them.

You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.

Enforce the "gun control" laws already in place, don't make more.

When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

The American Revolution would never have happened with Gun Control.

"....a government by the people, for the people....."

[HarrisonBT]

Whatever you choose, welcome to the community of armed citizens.

[/B]

Also, good words man.
before i carry at all, i want/must be an expert on the law, i dont ever want to have to wonder what to do. I must know.

some great quotes too bud, makes me think alot.
Im on recruiting duty out here in west texas, and i have some free time, so i think im gonna go see if i cant find a 608 tommorow.
Thanks alot guys, ill let yall know what i choose!!!

[03trubluGT]

I carry a S&W 642 with 2 speedloaders of .38 +P handy.

The gun loaded is only 17 oz.

That Taurus 608 is nice, but weighs 44 oz empty.


Just something to think about.

Matt

[SBBII]

Also, good words man.
before i carry at all, i want/must be an expert on the law, i dont ever want to have to wonder what to do. I must know.

A big advantage to obtaining your CHL is that the class covers the law and your rights & responsibilities. You get reprints of the relevant parts of the law to refer to later. You get to talk about 'what if's' with an instructor who has had at least some training in how to answer your questions and how to relate the legal code to specific situations. You get to see other class participants ask questions you wouldn't thunk of. :D

The range qualification is pretty much cake for anyone comfortable with handguns.

<<<<< Initial qualification: 247 out of 250 with very little practice

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

The range qualification is pretty much cake for anyone comfortable with handguns.

<<<<< Initial qualification: 247 out of 250 with very little practice249/250 with a gun I'd had 2 weeks and put 20 rounds through, just to make sure it worked. :cool:

The written test is incredibly easy, and the range test is incredibly easy.

[Pro88LX]

Im sure my ignorance will shine thro on this one, but with a 9mm you may been half those to stop someone lol.


not true a, 147 grain hydra shok jacketed hollow point (which is my defense ammo of choice) will stop you dead in your tracks if shot by someone who is a decent shot.

[ThreeFingerPete]

not true a, 147 grain hydra shok jacketed hollow point (which is my defense ammo of choice) will stop you dead in your tracks if shot by someone who is a decent shot.

drrr drrr drrr

[GT98SVO]

A S&W 327 TRR8 (.357 Magnum) has 8 rounds.

A 1911 single stack in .45 has 7+1 capacity.

Modern semi-autos offer hi capacity like 19 rounds in 9mm, 16 in .40, and 13-14 rounds in .45.

some examples:

9mm
STI
Glock 19

.45ACP
H&K USP 12+1
Springfield XD 13+1
Glock 20SF 13+1
Para P14 14+1

[Casper]

That 608 is pretty big.

Here is what i recommend when shopping for a revolver:

Adjustable sights.
a barrel so long you think it is too long at first.
Stainless.
Double action with exposed hammer.
As big a caliber as you think you can handle, and then some.
Muzzle break.
Scope mounts.
Modern style frame and grip (not the old cowboy looking crap).

This is because I view a revolver as a shooting iron capable in a hunting situation or long range sillhouette, and these things are a must. You will never be happy with a compromise here.

On the other hand, you should be able to find a decent police issue 357 with fixed sights and 6" barrel for $100 or less, and that wouldn't be a great gun but it would definitely hang with a $400 CHL style pistol for your purpose.

And don't rule out an auto.

[Chrm10SPkZ28]

You said in most cases people would be within 5 ft from you, i say if you cant protect yourself with an auto against someone within 5 ft from you you dont need to have one in the first place. But as far as carrying it i say an auto would be way easier to hide and way more comfy as well, but then again i am pretty much newbie as well so what do i know......

[GT98SVO]

Go shoot some at a range that rents. There are plenty in metroplex.
Pick a gun you are a good shot with.

The gun should inspire confidence in you.

If you want a no-brainer, get a double action revolver or shotgun.

Quality semi-autos, in good working condition, are much less likely to jam than most think. Make sure you use quality ammo. Some guns, like Para or H&K, can shoot damn near any ammo, others will be more particular. They can stovepipe on lighter loads.

Some guns, like H&K USP or AK-47, are designed to shoot under worst conditions. They give up a little accuracy for reliability.

Others like Beretta and AR-15, need to be very clean, well oiled, and well maintained for reliability but are more accurate. I see complaints online all over from current and former military people about these guns. Some want to go back to Springfield M14 and 1911. Of course, they don't fall in line with US military's fast and lean theme.

[TexasVert]

Also, good words man.
before i carry at all, i want/must be an expert on the law, i dont ever want to have to wonder what to do. I must know.

some great quotes too bud, makes me think alot.
Im on recruiting duty out here in west texas, and i have some free time, so i think im gonna go see if i cant find a 608 tommorow.
Thanks alot guys, ill let yall know what i choose!!!

The CHL class will take care of being an expert on the law. www.chltraining.com
The class is taught by either a Dallas constable or the Texas Legislator that wrote the CHL law.

Like others have said, don't leave a gun in your car. If you do you are liable for anything that happens as a result of leaving a gun in the car. If you secure the gun enough for it to be safe then it is not usable. If you leave it loose under the seat a kid can get it and shoot himself or others when you least expect it.

I love wheel guns but in my opinion they are for times when you really need accuracy. I would not try to carry one with all the auto choices. Modern autos do not jam unless they are mistreated and the same sort of mistreatment could make a revolver do the same thing.

Another thing to consider is that all shots are double action only unless you are willing to cock the hammer every time. Go to a range and see how well you shoot double action. Most autos are double action on the first shot only if at all.

Best advice is the one who said to go to a range and rent different guns. It is money well spent.

[MACH '69]

O.K. I"ll add some confusion. My favorite wheelguns to shoot are chambered in
45acp. Man I love full moon clips. Yes these are true clips not magazines.
But there really too big and heavy to carry concealed.

[HarrisonBT]

Go shoot some at a range that rents. There are plenty in metroplex.
Pick a gun you are a good shot with.

The gun should inspire confidence in you.

If you want a no-brainer, get a double action revolver or shotgun.

Quality semi-autos, in good working condition, are much less likely to jam than most think. Make sure you use quality ammo. Some guns, like Para or H&K, can shoot damn near any ammo, others will be more particular. They can stovepipe on lighter loads.

Some guns, like H&K USP or AK-47, are designed to shoot under worst conditions. They give up a little accuracy for reliability.

Others like Beretta and AR-15, need to be very clean, well oiled, and well maintained for reliability but are more accurate. I see complaints online all over from current and former military people about these guns. Some want to go back to Springfield M14 and 1911. Of course, they don't fall in line with US military's fast and lean theme.

I saw lots of m-14 when i was deployed. Some of the old ones are being refitted with brownfiber glass stocks, instead of wood. They are still in use!!



I went and looked at taurus's, got my hands on a few. there were no 608's but i did find a 601, which is a 7 shot 357 mag, used was about $380. Seriously considering it

[PDRed302]

I didn't even read half of the writing above but I will tell you this. I have many, many autos and 1 revolver. Now I service all of my guns myself and have modified most of them to exactly my taste. But even if I shoot 10,000 rnds. out of one of my autos, chances are at least one rnd. will jam, or flute, or some shit. Never, ever has my .357 revolver jammed. And I think the only way it wouldn't fire is if the bullet was a dud.

My .357 is on the side of my bed.

Like I said before I have fantastic autos but if that 1 out of 10,000 time shot is when the dude is standing over you with a knife... Well that's really gonna suck.

And for the "there's more rounds in an auto" argument....

If you can't kill a mother fucker in 1 or 2 shots you're not gonna' win the fight anyways.

[krazyh0rse]

im partial to a 1911 contemplating buying the para hicap for a carry

[GT98SVO]

im partial to a 1911 contemplating buying the para hicap for a carry

Para's are excellent guns. PXT and LDA are great technology.

They have quite a few sizes: Commander, Carry, and subcompact (Warthog).

[66Deuce]

I usually carry semi-auto, but will be switching to revolvers soon. I read that you won't be carrying, but here are some comparisons for carry.

Why revolvers?

Because the casings (evidence)don't go flying around.

Because they are easy to reload with a speed loader. (In my training, I have learned how to do it with 1 hand)

Because the major reason semi's fail is due to the (drumroll please......) magazine.

Because current revolvers can be purchased that are ULTRA light and can carry 10-12 rounds each.

Because they are easy to conceal without the bulky barrel(slide.)

Because the triggers of some semi's are notoriously sensitive and the lack of a decent safety (Glocks) can prove dangerous in a public setting.

And the list can continue...


I'm not saying I don't like semi's. If I was on an all-out mission with a group of guys, we would all be carrying Glocks. I am pointing out the benefits of carrying in public with civilians and children around.

[Denny]

I have both revolvers and semi-autos, but I mostly carry my Taurus .357 lightweight hammerless stubbie. It's all just personal preference. Whatever you're comfortable with is your best bet because it'll make all the difference when necessary. Go to a range and try a veriety ofr weapons.