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Skidmark
07-23-2007, 12:46 PM
Does anyone have some links to informative sites about car audio?
I'd like to more understand what all the numbers mean
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 01:00 PM
thanks, i registered and is browsing around there
jakesford
07-23-2007, 01:41 PM
www.diymobileaudio.com
Ya, caraudio.com is a decent site. A lot like this one though with all the punks and dumbass teenagers. They love to flame people over there for using mainstream or name brand stuff, unless of course it's Kicker. :confused: So take whatever you read there with a grain of salt.
Another good (more technical) site is elitecaraudio.com. The board isn't as popular, so it's a little more serious without all the kids. You might not get a ton of responses to stuff, though.
Ya, caraudio.com is a decent site. A lot like this one though with all the punks and dumbass teenagers. They love to flame people over there for using mainstream or name brand stuff, unless of course it's Kicker. :confused: So take whatever you read there with a grain of salt.
Another good (more technical) site is elitecaraudio.com. The board isn't as popular, so it's a little more serious without all the kids. You might not get a ton of responses to stuff, though.
No shit....especially if you're talking about JL.
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 02:03 PM
I posted up in the "general" area... no response yet - i'll wait and see.
I did see a lot of "JL bone licker" comments, lol
I saw that Rainbow is good for fronts and running rear speakers is pretty much worthless in a car?
No shit....especially if you're talking about JL.
Yep.
<-- very satisifed JL user
I saw that Rainbow is good for fronts and running rear speakers is pretty much worthless in a car?
That's the popular opinion. You drive a 3-series bimmer, right? I'd dump the extra cash into your front speakers. I haven't heard Rainbows personally but I don't think I have ever read a bad review on them. BUT, they are not the end all be all. There's a lot of good stuff out there (and a lot of crap).
For me, in the 4-door Explorer, I have gone without rear speakers and did not like it.
agent_orange
07-23-2007, 02:15 PM
http://www.realmofexcursion.com/links.html
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 02:15 PM
That's the popular opinion. You drive a 3-series bimmer, right? I'd dump the extra cash into your front speakers. I haven't heard Rainbows personally but I don't think I have ever read a bad review on them. BUT, they are not the end all be all. There's a lot of good stuff out there (and a lot of crap).
For me, in the 4-door Explorer, I have gone without rear speakers and did not like it.
Yep, it'll be a 325i... 02ish
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 02:21 PM
Ugh - i hate being a newb when it comes to new things.
Where would I fit in? I listen to mostly alternative/rock and hiphop on occasion...
SQ, SQL?
agent_orange
07-23-2007, 03:46 PM
sql if you still want some bump but want it too sound good.
sq if you want just a little bump but have amazing sound quality
http://usaci.forumotion.com/index.htm If they'd quit moving around atleast. I just wish they'd have some events in DFW again.
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 04:27 PM
Sql sounds more for me. i need an entire system... head unit (No video), Fronts, and a decent sub or subs amp combo. i have 2 to 2500 To spend. this will go in a o2 325i. what would you do
agiraldo
07-23-2007, 04:32 PM
for speakers get Boston Pros. or go with Rainbow SLC 265 Kicks. Amazing :) IMO. I was going to get some Pro's but I am trying to wait for my check to come so I can get some through EW or an authorized retailer.
No need to mention any other components, unless you want to go active. :)
agiraldo
07-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Actually, I just installed a pair of PG RSD's 6.5"s for my buddy in his Tahoe he has 125w a door and OMG for 100 bucks shipped they are one of the best midbass speakers I have ever heard.
Yeah PG isnt the greatest but theyre tantrum line was good and so is this RSD line(componenet wise and sub wise only).
Sql sounds more for me. i need an entire system... head unit (No video), Fronts, and a decent sub or subs amp combo. i have 2 to 2500 To spend. this will go in a o2 325i. what would you do
Well, you could split that number in half, and spend $1000-$1250 on your head unit, components, and deadening for the doors, and then spend another $1000-$1250 on amps, subs, box, deadening for the trunk, and wiring. Include install in that price, or if you can do it yourself (make sure you know what you are doing!) you could spend that much more on equipment.
Don't cheap out on the head unit. It is where everything begins. In my experience, a $300-$500 set of components was well worth the upgrade over $150-$200 sets. Don't go with huge crazy subs if it means you have to get cheap amps. Your enclosure is important; great subs will suck in the wrong box. Install is everything. Deadening makes a big difference. Use bigger power wire than called for if you think you may ever upgrade your equipment. Enjoy!
jakesford
07-23-2007, 08:40 PM
IMHO skip the name brand components, piece your front stage together with an active crossover and blow away damn near any off the shelf passive setup. :cool: Plus you will be able to step up to some serious midbass.
I would go with a headunit capable of 3way crossover and has some decent processsing. Pioneer 880prs is a good one, if you find a used one floating around try to get an alpine 9835 <--- One of the best headunits alpine has ever made outside of their F1 line. I just sold mine a few months ago.
Then just get a nice four channel amp for the front stage, stick with a quality brand that has plenty of head room as far as power goes and you won't be able to tell the difference between a $200 and a $700 amp. Basically expensive amps will allow you to push them to their limit cleanly without clipping, but if you have more than enough power with a cheaper amp you will never reach that point, so the SQ isn't effected. If you are mounting the midbass in the front doors, deaden them and seal them as much as possible, it makes a world of difference. As far as the speaker choices, there are too many combo's to begin to list, and it will depend on your mounting options, depth etc. If you want to go this route go to www.diymobileaudio.com or elitecaraudio as mentioned above.
As far as subs go that depends what you want out them, if you're a bass head or if you just want to blend in with the front stage, and not be heard 6 blocks away...
A few more areas to save money... Don't get caught up in the fancy speaker wire, RCA, bullshit. It doesn't make a difference :p
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 09:13 PM
I dont care much about being heard down the block... but if i'm going to spend 2k on a system, people in my car better say damn!
I've done some reading on Alpine and alot more people say go Pioneer for tuning capabilities: how about a Pioneer DEH-P6900UB > it has 4 volt pre-outs
I read well about Rainbow speakers so i'll take Dres' advice on the Rainbow SLC 265 Kicks for the front.
I'm gonna remove the back speakers to help the subs be able to flow into the cabin more.
I'd like to get two 12s... in case I want it to be loud I can be :) Should i run seperate amps to the fronts and subs or find some type of 5 or 6 channel amp to run everything?
I'm clueless on the sub/amp choice.
agiraldo
07-23-2007, 09:20 PM
the onyl 5 channel i would ever run with be the Baby Belle(memphis). Go with a seperate for your front highs and then one for your 2 12"s.
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 09:43 PM
the onyl 5 channel i would ever run with be the Baby Belle(memphis). Go with a seperate for your front highs and then one for your 2 12"s.
Damnit man - I wish I was working on getting a system when you were at the car meet.
Truthfully i'm scared to go with an internet brand as i'm new to this. I do change my mind alot as you can tell, but I think one 12W7 JL would be plenty for me. I've heard a 10" JL and was impressed, but it was in a tahoe.
So with the above rainbow front and the 12W7 what amps would you guys recommend?
agiraldo
07-23-2007, 10:18 PM
I love JL, its just expensive.
The rainbow kicks will be fine with between 75w-100w a door so maybe a 2channel or a 4 channel if you plan on upgrading the rear stage(not necessary).
For the jl w7 i would do a 1000/1 slash, but why just one sub? Why not go for 2 12"s for sheer output(displacement) vs 1 12"....
Skidmark
07-23-2007, 10:39 PM
if i went with 2 i'd be broke. head unit 250, fronts 350, sub 550, box who knows, and who knows on the amps.
agiraldo
07-23-2007, 11:31 PM
lol
dont forget Wiring and rcas and dash kit for headunit and wiring harness for it
PLUS DEADNER!
Get secondskin..... Or dynamat xtreme
Dont get all excited over the rainbow, lol....They are good but there are alot of items out there....You better visit a shop who understands SQ, not just SPL..Look at some of the companies that have a rep for SQ, Focal, Boston, Zapco, Genises, dynaudio. Those are a few nice ones...But as stated you need a decent head unit, I would personally stay with kenwood Excelon, a few select MXE panasonic head units or Eclipse has a few nice ones. You dont need top of the line, but at least a nice mid area, but most important be sure your getting into a SQ amp....For one Memphis does not make a good SQ amp. Good amps include Audio One (italy), Steg, Zapco, Boston, Focal, etc....Check out craigslist, do a search for "Demo vehicle wanted."
I've done some reading on Alpine and alot more people say go Pioneer for tuning capabilities...
Bah! It's tough to beat the H701 for tuning capabilities, but then you'd need a video unit or the separate controller. And that's going to push things out of your budget, especially if you're talking about doing a 12W7 for your substage.
If you want to hear some Boston Pro60s with plenty of power, we can meet up and you can check mine out. They are in the same general price range as the Rainbows, and you can get them at a local shop. Then again, I run mine active, and use the H701 for tuning purposes, and have a crapload of deadening, but at least you can really get an idea of their potential. Are you dead set on making your purchase this week? Want to swing by the crib or meet up this weekend since you are in Euless, too?
Skidmark
07-24-2007, 10:18 AM
I can't make any purchases till my car is gone... and that seems to be a sloooooow process.
Will you be out and about today? EW said good things about the boston pros...
I can't make any purchases till my car is gone... and that seems to be a sloooooow process.
Will you be out and about today? EW said good things about the boston pros...
I work during the week. If you want to come by in the evening (after 7:30-ish) that's cool. I just realized my truck may be in the shop this weekend for A/C service.
Skidmark
07-24-2007, 10:41 AM
I work during the week. If you want to come by in the evening (after 7:30-ish) that's cool. I just realized my truck may be in the shop this weekend for A/C service.
PM me your cell? I'll drop by with some fast food or something for you about 8 if you'd like
for SQ you really can't go wrong with any of the top level stuff like Focal Utopia's or even the poly kev's, boston acoustics top series, I love the Dyn audio stuff, even some of the Nicer Diamond lines for your front stage.
Throw in a nice set of rear fills and one good solid sub or two with a sep sub amp and one 4 channel mids and highs amp and you will be very very happy imo.
jbullerjr
07-24-2007, 11:27 AM
Guys please note:
He is not going to run rear fill.
The trunks on these cars are like vaults, if you put subs in the trunk and run rear speakers, the subs will push the rears and make them sound like shit.
Guys please note:
He is not going to run rear fill.
The trunks on these cars are like vaults, if you put subs in the trunk and run rear speakers, the subs will push the rears and make them sound like shit.
there are ways around that...it's called ported box through the back deck. :D
jbullerjr
07-24-2007, 12:13 PM
there are ways around that...it's called ported box through the back deck. :D
That is a one way to go, bandpass would keep the pressure off your rears altogether, you just have to be willing to cut a hole in your deck. He did post earlier that he wasn't using rear speakers after talking to Eric.
IMHO with a solid front stage, rears are not needed in a smallish two door car.
$2000 is a low budget IMO for all electronics, installation accessories, and building materials.
That is a one way to go, bandpass would keep the pressure off your rears altogether, you just have to be willing to cut a hole in your deck. He did post earlier that he wasn't using rear speakers after talking to Eric.
IMHO with a solid front stage, rears are not needed in a smallish two door car.
they aren't needed but i still like to have it...if you are spending a large amount on a system do it right the first time.
jbullerjr
07-24-2007, 01:20 PM
they aren't needed but i still like to have it...if you are spending a large amount on a system do it right the first time.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Everyone's got their own opinions and different tastes on car audio...I had a nice lil setup of ported box through the deck with a set of focal polykevlars as REAR fill...made for a nice surround sound with the 5.1 processor I ran for a bit ha ha.
But he should be ok with no rear fill and a sealed box but that's just not what I would do if I was building it for me.
jbullerjr
07-24-2007, 01:30 PM
But he should be ok with no rear fill and a sealed box but that's just not what I would do if I was building it for me.
Not what I would do either, but with his budget and the fact that he is not doing video, I think it will sound good.
Not what I would do either, but with his budget and the fact that he is not doing video, I think it will sound good.
His budget is to low for what he's wanting to do from what he sent me in pm's too.
Skidmark
07-24-2007, 02:26 PM
I just want an overall good sounding system... I can't see why 2k would be a low budget... most people wouldn't spend that much IMO
I just want an overall good sounding system... I can't see why 2k would be a low budget... most people wouldn't spend that much IMO
I spent 2k in speakers alone, before head units, processors, and amps...don't forget wiring and dynamat....fiberglass...wood, carpet, leather...
and that 2k was at cost... ;)
$2000 is a low budget IMO for all electronics, installation accessories, and building materials.
Thats kind of what I was thinking. I've got more than that in just the head unit and amps, not counting components, box, cables, 3.1, subs, dynamat, etc...
First thing you need though is a good alarm with paging capabilities, then worry about a stereo.
jbullerjr
07-24-2007, 02:56 PM
I just want an overall good sounding system... I can't see why 2k would be a low budget... most people wouldn't spend that much IMO
You will end up with a nice system, Eric can get you the best bang for the buck.
The main thing is that you end up with something you like, all of our opinions are just that, opinions. Eric and myself (and it sounds like Nate) have been doing this for LONG time. There are things that we hear and couldn't live with, but most people might not even notice.
2000 is nothing to sneeze at, you can get some quality products for that price range. And of course, if you purchase well, you can always upgrade. Eric will help you to not buy yourself into a corner.
I just want an overall good sounding system... I can't see why 2k would be a low budget... most people wouldn't spend that much IMO
These guys are right. I started putting pen to paper, and even at $2500, by the time you figure in labor and tax, you are going to be over your budget unless you start shaving somewhere.
You are right in thinking that a lot of people don't invest $2k+ into a system, but it's all relative. A lot of people just add subs and an amp. A lot of people buy cheap stuff. Some people save a lot by just buying the equipment and installing it themselves. A lot of people buy used equipment.
You can still get an entire system for what you are looking to spend that will sound much better than stock. But you'll have to ditch the 12w7 idea, maybe opting for a couple of entry level (but still decent) subs in a prefabbed box, and maybe look in the $200 range for components. I'd still go with some deadening in your doors, as that will be a great bang-for-your-buck investment. Get a couple of decent amps to match up with your speakers and the rest will be for labor, wiring, misc, and tax.
Or, you could spend $2k on a great head unit, great components, great amp (for the components), deadening, wiring, misc, labor, and tax. This will get you started and you can save up for your substage. A lot of people do this the other way around, but you have already stated that you aren't a bass head, and you want a system with good sound quality.
I second the recommendation for a good alarm.
You will end up with a nice system, Eric can get you the best bang for the buck.
The main thing is that you end up with something you like, all of our opinions are just that, opinions. Eric and myself (and it sounds like Nate) have been doing this for LONG time. There are things that we hear and couldn't live with, but most people might not even notice.
2000 is nothing to sneeze at, you can get some quality products for that price range. And of course, if you purchase well, you can always upgrade. Eric will help you to not buy yourself into a corner.
good good post right here. :cool:
And of course, if you purchase well, you can always upgrade. Eric will help you to not buy yourself into a corner.
This is true!
I remember my first visit to Autosound. I think I bought a decent head unit and some entry level front coaxials. LMAO! Then things really got out of hand.
Hmmmmmmmmm, trying to figure this one out. Lets see if my 15 or so years in the business can help.....Focal fronts, Focal rears, nice head unit, Nice Sq 4 channel amp, Nice Sq sub amp with some nuts, Nice sub, box, installation...HMMMMM, About $2200 installed. Yes can be done. Your just not seeing the right people sounds like...Full retail about $3300...Yes it can be done, and badass at that...You really need to shop a few good places sounds like. Dont drop all your eggs in one basket....Go get ya 3-4 really good quotes.
Hmmmmmmmmm, trying to figure this one out. Lets see if my 15 or so years in the business can help.....Focal fronts, Focal rears, nice head unit, Nice Sq 4 channel amp, Nice Sq sub amp with some nuts, Nice sub, box, installation...HMMMMM, About $2200 installed. Yes can be done. Your just not seeing the right people sounds like...Full retail about $3300...Yes it can be done, and badass at that...You really need to shop a few good places sounds like. Dont drop all your eggs in one basket....Go get ya 3-4 really good quotes.
I knew this post was coming. Not that it's good or bad, right or wrong, but I was waiting for it.
I knew this post was coming. Not that it's good or bad, right or wrong, but I was waiting for it.
really? meaning exactly what? If you cant walk in to a reputable shop and spend $2000-$2500 and get a really nice system, something is wrong. If going to get into this game of wanting a system. And are not willing to do a little footwork, then you are going to get taken advantage of somewhere. You really would be amazed at probably the different takes on what is good and bad out there as you visit shops. I always think its a good idea to get a 2-3 quotes. Compare apples to apples to see what you are being offered!!!! There are alot of good brands out there to choose from nowdays...But if your not staying consistant with what your trying to accomplish, you are getting nowhere. You can spend a fortune on the head unit, get crap for speakers, and still have crap for a system...You have to stay consistant. Blend everything in. And a Good shop should be able to do that for you and keep you within your budget...And 2000-2500 is a great budget to work with. You can also get the nightmare if your not careful. Meaning you can go the Harry Hines routes and save a bundle...Buttttt thats where the differences start. You can go to the Thunder Audio's, Autosounds, Earmarks, and a few select others out there and do ok nomatter what you decide to get. When you hit the harry hines style shops, you get shops in subpar areas with low rents, subpar installers, boarder equiptment, etc. So shops like that i would never consider. You can take a really nice system with a crap install, and get a crap sound. If a shop is good to a customer, they will always keep that customer. I have a longtime customer that we have done tons of stuff for in the past. And about 6-8 months ago he wanted to get a new head unit. And for years he has always and always will use alpine head units. They are not my favorit, but hey, hes the customer. Its what hes happy with. I dont sell Alpine. I suggested Earmark and Autosound. And i was honest with him, said Autosound probably best price, as Earmark has more overhead. And if im not mistaken, he did get the unit from Autosound. But we have done all other upgrades...But that customer will always know were upfront, and in this field there is plenty of customers to go around. Once you get comfortable with a shop, you stay committed. My advice to the guy wanted to spend his 2000-2500, is to shop around some, especially his first time. Shops are going to want to earn your business. See who treats you right or wrong...Thats the only way to make sure you are getting a fair shake. That being said, i again wish the gentleman good luck on his first adventure. Patience is a virtue!
Hmmmmmmmmm, trying to figure this one out. Lets see if my 15 or so years in the business can help.....Focal fronts, Focal rears, nice head unit, Nice Sq 4 channel amp, Nice Sq sub amp with some nuts, Nice sub, box, installation...HMMMMM, About $2200 installed. Yes can be done. Your just not seeing the right people sounds like...Full retail about $3300...Yes it can be done, and badass at that...You really need to shop a few good places sounds like. Dont drop all your eggs in one basket....Go get ya 3-4 really good quotes.
please tell me what focal units you are getting him, and prices on all this stuff since you are so cheap...I'm interested in a system in my camaro again.
Hit me up on a pm with units and prices if you can do that install for 2200.
really? meaning exactly what?
Well, okay. If you read the thread then you saw where he's been to Eric's shop and talked to him about a system. You also could see where Eric and others here have mentioned that for what he said he wants in a system, his budget is a little low. Knowing that, you said this:
Your just not seeing the right people sounds like
And:
You really need to shop a few good places sounds like.
And then:
If you cant walk in to a reputable shop and spend $2000-$2500 and get a really nice system, something is wrong.
And also:
And are not willing to do a little footwork, then you are going to get taken advantage of somewhere.
And then this:
And a Good shop should be able to do that for you and keep you within your budget...And 2000-2500 is a great budget to work with.
I don't know man. It just seems like in a roundabout way you are taking poorly disguised digs at Autosound. Some of what you say is true, and just common sense, but you seem to have a habit of wording things in a way that can easily be translated as "don't get screwed at that shop, come see me instead".
Eric doesn't promote himself on here at all. His satisfied customers do it for him. He also never even comes close to saying anything that could be misunderstood as a jab at any other shop, especially yours.
I bet you have a great business. I'm sure you know a ton about car audio. Some of the advice you give is greatly appreciated. I doubt that you are a bad dude at all, and I do get the feeling that you go out of your way to help your customers. That's great. But sometimes it seems like you have a hidden agenda. I don't mean to be rude or anything but I'm just calling it like I see it.
Maybe I'm the only one who interprets your posts this way, and if so, I apologize.
I am not offended and I don't know that any of dman's post was directed at me. It seemed directed to all stereo shops in general. Yes, a system can be made for $2000 with many different brands and levels of product but when you start talking about 12W7's, custom enclosures, high end components and amps, it gets a little more difficult. There are many shops in the metroplex to choose from. Pick the one you are most comfortable with.
Skidmark
07-25-2007, 09:48 AM
My mind changes more than my girlfriend's purses... I might end up with a vehicle with a bit more room.
I did love the way Jared's system sounded though... :) I guess I will have to bump up my budget
My mind changes more than my girlfriend's purses... I might end up with a vehicle with a bit more room.
I did love the way Jared's system sounded though... :) I guess I will have to bump up my budget
It was nice meeting you, dude.
Skidmark
07-25-2007, 10:31 AM
Same to you! Hey I sent you a PM - let me know if you're interested
I am not offended and I don't know that any of dman's post was directed at me. It seemed directed to all stereo shops in general. Yes, a system can be made for $2000 with many different brands and levels of product but when you start talking about 12W7's, custom enclosures, high end components and amps, it gets a little more difficult. There are many shops in the metroplex to choose from. Pick the one you are most comfortable with.
In NO WAY was i insulting or directing anything towards EW or Autosound. Read my post!!! I have reffered only 2 shops in the Metroplex, some people may not like it, but i dont really care. I do CUSTOM work, and alot of it. I am GOOD! period. Not bragging, but my work supports itself. BUT, if i cannot help someone I refer 1-2 places. Earmark, simply because they do good work on the custom end, but yes they are higher (but understand, they have more overhead than EW or Myself), and i know Stein and i know WHAT he REQUIRES as far as a install(ie: solder all connections, etc.), Or i have refferred Autosound BECAUSE I know they will be fair with a customer, and do good work. I dont know about their custom work, because i dont know if they do custom nor have i seen any of their custom work, so i cannot comment. I have also never personnally met EW. But i have not once on this board insulted EW in any way. I think he would vouch for that. I think EW being a stereo guy, and shop owner got what i meant to say. If i have any fault, it is and was a bad explanation maybe. And as far as my reccommendation, I recommend 3 in the Metroplex, Myself, Autosound, and Earmark. Now take that for what it is, it is a recommendation. And please dont take that as a personnal promotion, I am not trying to do that either. As i stated, get a few prices out there, just stay away from the junk shops..If you want to spend 200-300 for a whole system, only choice you got is a bazaar or harry hines, but if your spending a decent amount, then you do have choices. And to EW, thank you for not taking anything i said wrong. I sincerely did not mean anything towards you. And i will continue to refer those to you that are wanting what i cannot provide...Or who are in your area, and doesnt make sense to drive way out to me....Shops who are comfortable with themselves have no issues with that, And i believe myself and EW are in that line. Hell one day ill break away and come out and say HI...
Maybe I'm the only one who interprets your posts this way, and if so, I apologize.[/QUOTE]
Jluv, sorry if you interpreted my post that way. As i stated above, i did not mean it to sound that way. I will work on that part when posting here. I do appreciate everyone here on dfwstangs, and i try to be helpful.
agiraldo
07-25-2007, 12:44 PM
Maybe I'm the only one who interprets your posts this way, and if so, I apologize.
Jluv, sorry if you interpreted my post that way. As i stated above, i did not mean it to sound that way. I will work on that part when posting here. I do appreciate everyone here on dfwstangs, and i try to be helpful.[/QUOTE]
Very true Dennis.
I don't think he intended to do anything, but of course people ALWAYS try and start drama on this board.
Drama is for the birds. That's not what my post was about. And if you really don't say things with the intention of people reading between the lines and getting the same idea I got, then that's cool. Again, just telling you how it looks to me. If you look at the stuff that I quoted you saying, and you understand that he has already gone to see EW, I'd think you could easily understand where I am coming from. And this isn't the first time. And I don't deny that you squeeze that kind of stuff in with a large amount of great overall information and advice. If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry. I don't mean anything against anyone, but you asked me to explain myself, so I did. It's all good.
I'm still looking for my quote... :o
well i guess it only matters what EW thinks in my opinion.
Skidmark
07-25-2007, 01:08 PM
What happened to system talk... bastards!
Nate - I don't think i'm gonna be able to make it out there tonight. I gotta fix my dryer :(
What happened to system talk... bastards!
Nate - I don't think i'm gonna be able to make it out there tonight. I gotta fix my dryer :(
pansy ass....it's all gravy man.
Skidmark
07-25-2007, 01:27 PM
I'm running out of clean clothes to wear and I just got the part!
I <3 Boston Pros
well i guess it only matters what EW thinks in my opinion.
Like I said, I do not feel that anything was said against me. All good here. :)
I'm running out of clean clothes to wear and I just got the part!
I <3 Boston Pros
you have another day to get it working...
and boston pro's aren't to shabby.
NeedleSharp
07-26-2007, 07:51 PM
I just read every damn post... from start to finish... just giving an outsiders perspective :)
EW will take care of you. period. it sounds like he is going to put you in a situation where you can upgrade if you want and give you the best CORE things you can get (HU and amps)
Ive met Dennis and he seems like a good guy and offered to give me a few pretty damn good deals. It sounds like he is saying that he will give you the best overall package you can get for your money. which is cool if you just wanna drop the money and be done with it. this doesnt always put you in the best situation to upgrade later but isnt always bad.
people can argue all friggen day on here about focals or jl or whatever. the best advicei can give you is go to a store or a car demo and listen to it YOUR SELF!!! when i was picking my speakers, those bostons sounded BAD ASS!! i settled for Mephis Audio comps because the sound was ver similar and the price difference was about $150. you want to get something that your satisfied with, and then one step up...
$2500 is plenty enough to get a bad ass sounding system... end of story...
You might not be able to get Raibows or Utopias front and back and 2 w7s with a $1000 top of the line amp.... car audio is kinda like computers... the technology is evolving all the time and you can never get the best equiptment ever because there is no defined "best"
get what sounds best to you! (as far as speakers) let the smart ppl do amps and HUs though :D
BTW, i've spent $800 on my system... woulda cost more than $2500 for everything if i were to buy everything new!!
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