Michael Vick

[bert89coupe]

man is every passing day looking worse for this poor excuse for a human being. Now it looks like he's been envolved with dog fighting since 2000, his last year at VaTech. And also now this has the NFL security investigating into it.

I'm no PETA person by a long shot, but anybody envolved with dog fighting is a sick mother fucker.

[RED]

Im going to agree. Vick is a piece of shit. As time goes we will continue to see what kind of low life he really is.

[BOHICA]

Micheal Vick=moron

That is all

[Blackhawk]

The big thing that's going to hurt him, is that sooner or later the companies like Nike and others will drop him like a bad habit, then you take into account that he will most likely be tossed from the NFL the way things keep going. And a few years from now, you have a bum,with all kinds of physical talent wasted cause the guy is a fucking 2-bit thug with the intelligence of a grilled cheese sandwich.

Fuck Mike Vick! I hope that fucker loses everything...

[Vertnut]

His little brother is a piece of shit, too. I guess the acorn doesn't fall far from...the other acorn? :cool:

[PhatdowninTx]

Yall are fucking retarded and have no clue what yall are talking about. The NFL security is investigating it because the other cops couldn't pin point that HE was actually involved, the witnesses retracted their original statements. The NFL got involved so his name would be cleared of these accusations.

[bert89coupe]

Yall are fucking retarded and have no clue what yall are talking about. The NFL security is investigating it because the other cops couldn't pin point that HE was actually involved, the witnesses retracted their original statements. The NFL got involved so his name would be cleared of these accusations.



i think you're the fucking retarded one, they're getting involved to make sure what is actually going on. And if Vick is involved, they don't won't that burden on the NFL. What witness retracted their statement? It was shown on EPSN news just an hour ago with some guy (face not shown and voice scrambled) saying that the dog fighting world is scared of what Vick might say. How does it feel to be a Vick fan and being able to see all that talent slowly heading down the toilet?


Oh yeah, how's the dog fighting business going?


Vick's not smart, if this gets dragged out long enough, he'll speak or do something stupid to convict himself.

[Badass2000gt]

Vick is overrated.

[PhatdowninTx]

Actually, the original people who said they saw Vick at that location where the dog fighting occured, have now stated that they didn't actually see him there.

"Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said Wednesday that investigators still lack solid evidence linking Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick - or anybody, for that matter - to dog fighting."

"He said there are no eyewitnesses who can say there was dog fighting at the property. Of the 2 who first claimed he was seen there, they since have retracted their statements."

"Pet-Abuse.com/animal abuse case details: Dog Fighting"

[Blackhawk]

I guess we'll soon see...

Maybe we'll get lucky and the douchebag will compound fracture his leg in training camp? Then it won't matter whether or not he's been involved since 2000, or how much involvement he had at any time.

[Schargedcobra97]

Yall are fucking retarded and have no clue what yall are talking about. The NFL security is investigating it because the other cops couldn't pin point that HE was actually involved, the witnesses retracted their original statements. The NFL got involved so his name would be cleared of these accusations.

I just saw the segment on ESPN... the informat said
"Michael Vick was there... It was his dog... He was not in the pit... but he was there and he was betting"

[RJDCobra]

Screw Vick. He can't hold a Candle To Vince Young. Vince gets better and learns more every year i watch him since 2002. I havent seen vick improve and make that next big step like any pro quarterback should. and lacks a natural leadership role like Young has. any ways im off the subject. either way what happens to Vick his horrible image just got worse. i think its do or die this year for him and the Falcons. alot of money they paid that franchise p.o.s.

[bert89coupe]

i bet the Falcons wish this would've come about before the Schaab deal.

[SVTVenom]

Vick is overrated.

As a passer, yes. He's failed to evolve as a passer and may never get any better. We'll never know though because he's never really had anyone worth a damn to throw to other than his TE.

The whole hidden compartment in the bottle of water ordeal was just the signs of things to come with this guy. Seriously, what millionaire goes to a local clinic to get tested for herpes and uses such a bogus name like 'Ron Mexico'? :confused: One would think that with a $100+ million dollar contract you could have a doctor come to you and keep that on the D/L.

The sad part of this is that despite all the crap thats gone on with him, he won't have shit happen to him because he's a face of the NFL and they can't afford for him to miss time.

Despite being investigated for a felony and having prior run-ins with the police he's not getting any type of grief from Goodell, but Pac-Man is in the same situation and gets sat down for an entire season. Neither one is a saint, but it doesn't seem like a level playing field with the new conduct policy/punishment here.

i bet the Falcons wish this would've come about before the Schaab deal.

Maybe, maybe not. More than likely Vick won't be charged with anything during this calendar year if any time at all. However, if something crazy happens and some serious hard evidence is discovered, they could really be fucked because all they have right now behind him is Joey Harrington and D.J. Shockley.

[gip99drop]

Just curious, how many of you have watched or been to a dog fight or even watched chickens fight?

[joshscoupe]

Actually, the original people who said they saw Vick at that location where the dog fighting occured, have now stated that they didn't actually see him there.

"Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said Wednesday that investigators still lack solid evidence linking Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick - or anybody, for that matter - to dog fighting."

"He said there are no eyewitnesses who can say there was dog fighting at the property. Of the 2 who first claimed he was seen there, they since have retracted their statements."

"Pet-Abuse.com/animal abuse case details: Dog Fighting"

who cares it was his property and his family there hes guilty

[Troyz R Us]

who cares it was his property and his family there hes guilty
I disagree.....If I'm rich and I buy a family member a house and say here you go, enjoy. And some crap ends up going down then thats on that family member, not me just because I purchased the house for them. Just my two cents. And for the record, I'm against dog fighting.

[bert89coupe]

Just curious, how many of you have watched or been to a dog fight or even watched chickens fight?



i can't wait to see what your point is.

[bert89coupe]

As a passer, yes. He's failed to evolve as a passer and may never get any better. We'll never know though because he's never really had anyone worth a damn to throw to other than his TE.

The whole hidden compartment in the bottle of water ordeal was just the signs of things to come with this guy. Seriously, what millionaire goes to a local clinic to get tested for herpes and uses such a bogus name like 'Ron Mexico'? :confused: One would think that with a $100+ million dollar contract you could have a doctor come to you and keep that on the D/L.

The sad part of this is that despite all the crap thats gone on with him, he won't have shit happen to him because he's a face of the NFL and they can't afford for him to miss time.

Despite being investigated for a felony and having prior run-ins with the police he's not getting any type of grief from Goodell, but Pac-Man is in the same situation and gets sat down for an entire season. Neither one is a saint, but it doesn't seem like a level playing field with the new conduct policy/punishment here.



Maybe, maybe not. More than likely Vick won't be charged with anything during this calendar year if any time at all. However, if something crazy happens and some serious hard evidence is discovered, they could really be fucked because all they have right now behind him is Joey Harrington and D.J. Shockley.




you honestly think if he's convicted of a FELONY that nothing will happen to him?? You truely are getting dumber aren't you? Goodell hasn't done anything yet because he's waiting to see what the authorities find out first. I'm sure he'll come down hard on Vick because he's tired of seeing all the self image problems around the league right now and Vick would be a very very good example.

[Sean88gt]

Vick is shit. He is a SMF and will always be such.

As punishment, make him fight a dog.

[bert89coupe]

Vick is shit. He is a SMF and will always be such.

As punishment, make him fight a dog.



he would just borrow his brothers gun and shoot it.

[gip99drop]

i can't wait to see what your point is.
Just a question, if you can't answer than never mind. So ever since Vick entered the league you guys have hated him right ( over rated quaterback / athelete)...

[Hollywood]

Just a question, if you can't answer than never mind. So ever since Vick entered the league you guys have hated him right ( over rated quaterback / athelete)...


Vick has been severely over-rated and over hyped since the day he got into the NFL. He's never been a "good person" and i've had a family member witness his arrogant punk ass attitude in person at a Roy Jones fight in Vegas years ago. The guy is classless, habitual line stepper. Why are you so quick to defend him? Why is there always some fan willing to defend a sports athlete who breaks the law?

[46Tbird]

Just a question, if you can't answer than never mind. So ever since Vick entered the league you guys have hated him right ( over rated quaterback / athelete)...
"you guys" = "white people"

:confused:

FYI, he IS overrated. Just like Romo and Roethlisberger. What is your point?

[gip99drop]

"you guys" = "white people"

:confused:

FYI, he IS overrated. Just like Romo and Roethlisberger. What is your point?

I'm talking about board members who hate Mick Vick. Did you always hate him or just now. I don't care what color you are. What type of rating do you come up with to consider him or other players over rated. Have you played any pro-ball in your career. If Vick was so over rated how did he make it to the pros.

[Schargedcobra97]

i can name you 100's of NFL players who "made it to the pros" and sucked... Vick is overrated as a QB.. HE IS NOT A QB .. he can throw the ball 80 yards but he can't hit a reciever whether its 5 or 85 yards... now put him at receiver and let him run flys all day b/c i can guarantee you he will not run across the middle

[Hollywood]

I'm talking about board members who hate Mick Vick. Did you always hate him or just now. I don't care what color you are. What type of rating do you come up with to consider him or other players over rated. Have you played any pro-ball in your career. If Vick was so over rated how did he make it to the pros.


You obviously don't know the definition of "over-rated". Hell, a book was just written on the most over-rated and under-rated baseball players of all time. It's not like those of us on here came up with this term.

[bcoop]

I'm talking about board members who hate Mick Vick. Did you always hate him or just now. I don't care what color you are. What type of rating do you come up with to consider him or other players over rated. Have you played any pro-ball in your career. If Vick was so over rated how did he make it to the pros.



Stupid fuck.


Additionally, what the fuck does anyone on here watching a dog or cock fight have to do with Vick being overrated?


Your mother should have swallowed. Now WE have to deal with her mistake.

[46Tbird]

I'm talking about board members who hate Mick Vick. Did you always hate him or just now. I don't care what color you are. What type of rating do you come up with to consider him or other players over rated. Have you played any pro-ball in your career. If Vick was so over rated how did he make it to the pros.
I was anti-Vick when he came into the league. That "double threat" of being able to pass and run was BS from the get-go.

Having a mobile QB is one thing. Having a QB with more rushing yards than the RB is another.

He runs because he can't throw worth a shit. Maybe he would have had more success as a RB. You know why Emmitt Smith wasn't under the Center? Because he can't fucking throw either!

For the record, I'm a HUGE dog lover but I don't give a fuck if he attended some stupid dog fighting shit ten years ago. Sounds like a witch hunt anyway. How the hell would they prove he was there off hearsay a decade after the fact? Pretty obvious this was just to ruin his name. His cousins or whoever was PROVEN to be involved should be going to jail..

[Cartman]

You obviously don't know the definition of "over-rated". Hell, a book was just written on the most over-rated and under-rated baseball players of all time. It's not like those of us on here came up with this term.
he isn't over rated, he just never cared to learn, he never grew from his college days. I saw him run to his left full sprint and then throw the ball 40-50 yards and hit his reciever dead in the numbers. I always thought if he would have trained and worked on his skills more in the off season he would own every passing record in the book if he stayed healthy. it is sad to see someone like him waste the talent.

[Hollywood]

he isn't over rated, he just never cared to learn, he never grew from his college days. I saw him run to his left full sprint and then throw the ball 40-50 yards and hit his reciever dead in the numbers. I always thought if he would have trained and worked on his skills more in the off season he would own every passing record in the book if he stayed healthy. it is sad to see someone like him waste the talent.

Thats the exception not the rule. I've seen him over throw or under throw guys he should have hit. Part of the problem with everyone over-hyping Vick, is that his pass is pretty. It looks great, too bad it's usually off the mark. When you see his tight zipping spirals, you think, goddamn, what an arm. Unfortunately he can rarely hit the side of a barn. He can't read defenses either.

[bert89coupe]

I'm talking about board members who hate Mick Vick. Did you always hate him or just now. I don't care what color you are. What type of rating do you come up with to consider him or other players over rated. Have you played any pro-ball in your career. If Vick was so over rated how did he make it to the pros.


so now we have to PLAY pro ball to be able to tell if someone is over rated or not? Give me a fucking break.
So how does it feel just sitting there watching the player you love most throw everything down the fucking toilet? That must really suck. Hold on, i haven't actually done that so am i able to comment?


are you in Highschool or something?

[Cartman]

Thats the exception not the rule. I've seen him over throw or under throw guys he should have hit. Part of the problem with everyone over-hyping Vick, is that his pass is pretty. It looks great, too bad it's usually off the mark. When you see his tight zipping spirals, you think, goddamn, what an arm. Unfortunately he can rarely hit the side of a barn. He can't read defenses either.
I will argue that, every time I watch him play he is about where the "great" qb's throw are but alot has to do with the wr not holding on the ball. granted part of that is that he throws the ball so freaking hard that they can't hold on to it but for the most part he hits his wr where they need to be hit.

[SVTVenom]

you honestly think if he's convicted of a FELONY that nothing will happen to him?? You truely are getting dumber aren't you? Goodell hasn't done anything yet because he's waiting to see what the authorities find out first. I'm sure he'll come down hard on Vick because he's tired of seeing all the self image problems around the league right now and Vick would be a very very good example.

I never said that they wouldn't do anything if he was convicted. I said they won't do anything right now despite serious evidence being found and charges possibly being filed.

It will be interesting to see if Goodell keeps it a level playing field for everyone when it comes to suspensions. So far, he's only had to deal with mid to mid-upper talent when it comes to their suspensions. Vick is an NFL cash cow and it will hurt the league's wallet if he's not playing.

so now we have to PLAY pro ball to be able to tell if someone is over rated or not?

According to people like Cartman, Hollywood, etc. you do. Too bad they never did either.

he isn't over rated, he just never cared to learn, he never grew from his college days. I saw him run to his left full sprint and then throw the ball 40-50 yards and hit his reciever dead in the numbers. I always thought if he would have trained and worked on his skills more in the off season he would own every passing record in the book if he stayed healthy. it is sad to see someone like him waste the talent.

I had a friend who was an offensive lineman for the Falcons and he said the same exact things. The guy has a cannon for an arm, but has little accuracy and poor work ethic. That is the big difference between Vick and VY, Vick doesn't give a shit if he loses or not, it eats VY inside whenever he loses and will work as hard and for as long as it takes to overcome whatever is in his way. Mike Vick is the poor man's Vince Young.

[RJDCobra]

Let not be to hard on Vick. All he's tryin to do is keep it real.

[Cartman]

I

According to people like Cartman, Hollywood, etc. you do. Too bad they never did either.





I never said you had to play pro ball or college ball all I said was if you never really played the game then you can't understand some of the things that you spew out. Even your UT fans will admit you are wrong on alot of what you say. Most of it is because you have never really played the game to understand it.

[bert89coupe]

I never said you had to play pro ball or college ball all I said was if you never really played the game then you can't understand some of the things that you spew out. Even your UT fans will admit you are wrong on alot of what you say. Most of it is because you have never really played the game to understand it.



that's not why i'm wrong(if i'm wrong) on some of the stuff that i say, but you can think that if it makes you feel better :D

[Cartman]

that's not why i'm wrong(if i'm wrong) on some of the stuff that i say, but you can think that if it makes you feel better :D
wasn't talking about you, that was for nate only

I don't have a problem arguing with you. I even argue with you about texas ark stuff just piss you off :D

Like I stated I don't know how many times but I am also I UT fan they are just behing Ark, UG, UM, and LSU

[bert89coupe]

wasn't talking about you, that was for nate only

I don't have a problem arguing with you. I even argue with you about texas ark stuff just piss you off :D

Like I stated I don't know how many times but I am also I UT fan they are just behing Ark, UG, UM, and LSU



you can try, but it doesn't happen often.

[jlofton]

When, if ever, do you guys think he will be suspended or arrested?

[01WhiteCobra]

Yall are fucking retarded and have no clue what yall are talking about. The NFL security is investigating it because the other cops couldn't pin point that HE was actually involved, the witnesses retracted their original statements. The NFL got involved so his name would be cleared of these accusations.

I guess the NFL sucks at clearing names.


Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury on charges related to illegal dogfighting.


"We are disappointed that Michael Vick has put himself in a position where a federal grand jury has returned an indictment against him," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/071807dnspovick.19fc550.html

What a dumbass.

[SVTVenom]

Now we'll see if Goodell is serious about suspending players. The charges he's facing are pretty damn serious:

Conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities:

- Statutory maximum of 5 years in prison
- $250,000 fine
- Full restitution

Sponsoring a dog in an animal fighting venture:

- One year in prison and/or $100,000 fine

The indictment also includes a forfeiture allegation seeking recovery of any property constituting, or derived from, proceeds obtained directly or indirectly as a result of these offenses.

Doesn't look good for Ron Mexico right now.

I'm guessing the Falcons are wishing they didn't deal Matt Shaub to the Texans right now seeing as how the only QB's they have behind Vick are Joey Harrington, Chris Redman, and D.J. Shockley.

I hear Daunte Culpepper is pretty cheap right now.....

[unkoricky]

I'm talking about board members who hate Mick Vick. Did you always hate him or just now. I don't care what color you are. What type of rating do you come up with to consider him or other players over rated. Have you played any pro-ball in your career. If Vick was so over rated how did he make it to the pros.
Do you even know what overrated means when it comes to sports?

:rolleyes:

I think Venom has competition now for most complete idiot on dfwsc

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

I bet vick walks away from this either with a fine or a not guilty verdict. He has $$$ and that's all that matters in court.

[line-em-up]

He was lookin' kinda dumb with his finger and his thumb in the shape of an "L" on his forehead.

[JMAC]

Just a question, if you can't answer than never mind. So ever since Vick entered the league you guys have hated him right ( over rated quaterback / athelete)...I don't hate Vick at all. I don't understand all the fuss over him honestly. I hear he's one of a kind all the time on ESPN but I've seen the same athelete 20yrs ago. Cunningham did the same shit Vick does but he was a much better passer.



On a side note I hope they make the fucker pay for killing off the pits the way his entourage did. :mad: :mad:

[RJDCobra]

Vick's only a good quarterback between the 20's. I'm feeling a 2 game suspension from Goodell. If Goodell is true to himself and treats him like Tank Johnson, Pacman, Chris Henry. Remember he sat down with Goodell after the draft and told him he has never been involved in dog fighting.

[Sean88gt]

Well, I guess you can pull the thug off the streets.....

The guy was handed a gold mine and pissed it on bullshit. I wonder how many kids he has that aren't in his life as well. Those boys from Richmond really know how to stave off the stereotypes:rolleyes:

[jluv]

What an idiot. Sadly, he's not the only NFL athlete that has been involved in dog fighting. I wonder if he'll incriminate anyone else.

[TOMMY]

M.V. is one dumb ass ni$$er! :mad:

[Grant]

Yeah, that's what happens in a dog-eat-dog world.

[Zfan]

The big thing that's going to hurt him, is that sooner or later the companies like Nike and others will drop him like a bad habit, then you take into account that he will most likely be tossed from the NFL the way things keep going. And a few years from now, you have a bum,with all kinds of physical talent wasted cause the guy is a fucking 2-bit thug with the intelligence of a grilled cheese sandwich.

Fuck Mike Vick! I hope that fucker loses everything...


X2, the guy is a turd!

[KOZMO]

MV is a terrible person. When this all started he was very arrogant and cocky with his interview. Saying Atlanta stands behind him... the same city that boo'd the falcons and he flipped them off.

I highly think he is over-rated... I remember in that Boys and Falcons game there was a play where Crumpler ran a post to the right, while the play crashed left... He was COMPLETLEY OPEN and good for atleast 30-45 if not a TD on that play, which would have caused them to tie it or win it, as it was in the 4th quarter. I remember yelling "NO NO cover him!!! Oh, Vick sucks and didn't see him. Yay!"

As for witnesses there is a witness that works undercover at the dog fights that has and still holds to his statements that he has seen vick, attend, bet, and even had a dog fight against his. Also he calls him a big boy, or a big timer. As he bets lots.

[barronj]

Yall are fucking retarded and have no clue what yall are talking about. The NFL security is investigating it because the other cops couldn't pin point that HE was actually involved, the witnesses retracted their original statements. The NFL got involved so his name would be cleared of these accusations.

Thug hugger

[ScottEvil]

M.V. is one dumb ass ni$$er! :mad:
tell us how your really feel Tommy :D


There was only one good scrambling qb and it was Steve Young :cool:

[Hollywood]

tell us how your really feel Tommy :D


There was only one good scrambling qb and it was Steve Young :cool:

^This man speaks the truth and he was a damn good passer too :D 7 Pro Bowls, 3 Rings, Highest Passer Rating All-time 96.8, Most passing titles, 6 (tied), and Most TDs, rushing, QB, 43

[46Tbird]

Did anyone see the aerial footage of his 40-foot dog fighting arena in his backyard? LMAO.. what a fuggin retard. He is SO fucked.

[regaltip]

mike vick is over paid and over rated. you can take them out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out them.

[FTW]

i say string him up like he did some of those dogs.... x2 on what TOMMY said

[TX21]

Did anyone see the aerial footage of his 40-foot dog fighting arena in his backyard? LMAO.. what a fuggin retard. He is SO fucked.

I'd like to see it

[Sean88gt]

^This man speaks the truth and he was a damn good passer too :D 7 Pro Bowls, 3 Rings, Highest Passer Rating All-time 96.8, Most passing titles, 6 (tied), and Most TDs, rushing, QB, 43

Mormons don't dog fight, they let their multiple wives kick the shit out of each other:D

[Casper]

Just curious, how many of you have watched or been to a dog fight or even watched chickens fight?

Yes.

Ratting is the coolest though.

[silvercobra03]

Dog fighting= :( If he was involved they should kick him out of the NFL